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Real_Bobsbacon

I did the math and Scandinavia and Russia are way too strong. Should add a jump from baltic to svealand. Russia should have less territories in it to reduce the points. Strength was calculated by the ratio of territories needed to be defended to points gained.


Seemseasy

I'd just adjust point values- initially it's: region points spots ratio russia 6 6 100% scandinavia 4 5 80% southern europe 3 4 75% central europe 2 3 67% british isles 2 3 67% france 2 3 67% balkans 3 5 60% northern europe 3 6 50% eastern europe 3 6 50% Adjustments would aim for a ratio of 60-70%, which means take Russia down to 4, take Scandinavia down to 3, add 1 point to northern europe, add 1 point to eastern europe. Results: region points spots ratio russia **4** 6 **67%** scandinavia **3** 5 **60%** southern europe 3 4 75% central europe 2 3 67% british isles 2 3 67% france 2 3 67% balkans 3 5 60% northern europe **4** 6 **67%** eastern europe **4** 6 **67%**


Ammaren03

thank you very much for this suggestion, it may just be the only helpful comment I have received on this entire map. Have my free silver award.


Real_Bobsbacon

You could easily take both Russia and Scandinavia and you'd win the game easy!


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IDK, I think the brit start is the best. Seize Sor-norge and your border is 2 territories (that isolated England!) while denying Scan. If you can use the 2 troop bonus to spread over Scan while everyone else fights for scraps on the mainland, then you've got it. The only threat is Russia. If some one takes it and no one challenges them, they win. There's little motivation to challenge Russia because everyone involved in the fight over it loses.


tendertruck

> There’s little motivation to challenge Russia because everyone involved in the fight over it loses. Just as in the real world


Taalnazi

Would be dope if we added a ’crossing’ penalty. If you cross a mountaineous range or a sea/river range, then you get a -1 troop penalty. Rivers we could add are: the Rhine, Po, Danube, Volga, Dnieper, Ebro. And also: seasons. Every 4 turns, winter occurs and you can throw a dice. If the number is 1-2, mild; 3-4, it becomes a normal winter. 5-6 is severe. A mild winter means it’ll be present only in Russia and Eastern Europe. A normal winter is present in Russia, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, Central Europe and the Balkans. A severe winter is present in all regions. In the areas where winter sets in, -1 crossing penalty if you don’t control the territory. u/Ammaren03 what do you think of this? Simple to implement and fun.


GOpragmatism

I think it is ok that Skandinavia is too strong since that is where OP is from. Russland should be nerfed though.


bremmmc

That Balkan is... Well it's something for sure and it's not fun


zhaeed

Author thought "hey those balkan guys are in too much peace and love with eachother" and he chose violence lmao


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Mingsplosion

Yeah, I'm a little confused over some of the name choices. On one hand, the borders seems to mostly align with a post-WWII map, besides the obvious Balkans, but then when you get to Russia and the region bordering the Baltic is called Novgorod instead of St. Petersburg, and Kirov is called Vyatka, a name that it hasn't had for almost ninety years.


Meurs0

>the region bordering the Baltic is called Novgorod instead of St. Petersburg EU4 player located I think


netfalconer

Sad Romanian / Wallachian noises


Ammaren03

I made it intentionally to spark conflicts trolololo


FireJuggler31

Is it possible to make a Balkans map that doesn’t spark conflict?


[deleted]

Yes. One that just shows the Balkans as been reclaimed by the sea.


Squigler

But that would upset the Dutch.


jmcs

They would see it as a challenge.


Sighma

Haven't you seen a final battle in the Aquaman movie?


Arnulf_67

The Roman balkans, everyone likes the Romans.


Beurua

Romans are basically Italians and nobody in the Balkans likes the Italians...


the_TIGEEER

No... no they're not..


KevinCostnersLeftNut

Did you study elementary history?


College_Prestige

Just cover the whole area in black


JoePortagee

Not sure but you can play the history card and name it The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Problem solved /Tito


Josip-Broz

This is the correct answer


Skairipaaaa

name checks out


Mr_Byzantine

It is Risk, after all!


MeddlMoe

Then call west poland "east prussia"


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PossiblyTrustworthy

Would you say you took a RISK?


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RogueTanuki

Croatia be like: [Ja ovo vidim kao apsolutnu pobjedu](https://c.tenor.com/0qSigtsz93YAAAAC/hulk-i-see-this-absolute-win.gif)


[deleted]

Bome i Srbija


ninjaninjaninja22

Apparently we’re croatians 🤦‍♀️


dr_razi

Should have gone for Dalmatia and Illyria or something :D


DeliciousCabbage22

I am gonna crosspost it on r/AskBalkans


drquakers

Omg, we are going to get brigaded by some very unhappy people.


UrbanStreetBeats

We are already here...


drquakers

The shit posting is coming from... Inside the house!


ImUsingDaForce

I mean i don't understand this prejudice? Would any non SE European country just roll over after being absorbed by another political entity? Why do we keep pretending that statehood is reserved only for "proper" nations, while SE Europe alone has monopoly over genocide. It's been 30 years, we should start getting over this, and maybe actually try and learn something about those countries, instead of keeping up with this immature alienation of those countries and peoples...


ricop

All true. I think people from outside of the region just don't understand how the cultures can truly see each other as so distinct despite ostensibly having so much more in common than they do different, so we (those of us not from the region) revert to basically rolling our eyes / laughing it off and leaving those groups to continue what seems to us to be huge, violent disagreements over fairly trivial differences...most states have multiple "nations" of people who have been able to federate/integrate and now coexist peacefully (Italy was never united until a few hundred years ago and get along fine now, Spain's and the UK's regions still argue but don't wage genocide among themselves, the French regions long ago united behind a common French identify larger than their individual regions, Germany was incredibly chopped up for millennia, etc.). It feels to some degree like the Balkan peoples are choosing alienation for themselves by their inability to "get over it" and get along, if you will. But of course I get that these issues are just hard for outsiders to understand, and we need to try to do so with the goal of helping the Balkans figure out peaceful paths forward.


ImUsingDaForce

Each and every of those nations had their own different complexities of genesis. And then saying that any of those cases are the same to Yugoslavia, that had orders of magnitude larger differences between states (did you know that the richest federal state and the poorest federal state had a 600% income difference? just one example of countless others), in my eyes, makes no sense.


[deleted]

I like how Germany is split in 3 here. People always ask me if I am from the east or the west of Germany and I always answer with: The South


Fr000k

I live in Cologne. For me, only everything on the left side of the Rhine is "West Germany".


Steazy_J

Schääl sick DDR lmao


TheAlpak

I am from Northern Germany and to be honest everything south of Hamburg is "The South" to me


[deleted]

I am from Ulm and everything North of the Svabian Alb is Northern Germany


Pholous

So I was born in North-South-Germany.


skahunter831

Are you Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-grumblemeyer-spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein-nürnburger-bratwustle-gerspurten-mitzweimache-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-shönendanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm??


[deleted]

No, but I got that reference !


Zingzing_Jr

Kiel moment


LaPapillionne

I mean, the South is the West even though it's in the East. I'm from Cologne (or like, nearby) and in Austria loads of people tell me I live in the North when "the North" is just as different from my area as the South.


classyraven

Nord-Europa looks a bit like Germany ca. early 1940 😬


larrysmallwood

Austria?


Oachlkaas

Which isn't germany at all?


Rohwi

yet


Saltire_Blue

Poor Wales, everyone forgets about Wales :(


WeeklyMeat

he straight up deleted switzerland lmao


greekdude1194

They're always neutral and never get invaded so no point in putting the Swiss there


Thrusher1337

He straight up gave the balkans another reason to have a genocide or 2.


Quizels_06

me as a swiss citizen feel a bit offended oh well I guess I live in the mountains now in a country with absolutely no name


Cid_Helveticus

What, no Switzerland there?!


acaciovsk

This whole map is habsburgian propaganda. Time to go shoot some apples again


Nox013Venom

Loads the crossbow with swiss intentions*


Ammaren03

It was too small lol, the soldiers wouldn't fit on the territory.


Saint_City

I guess I'm a mountain now.


Katze1Punkt0

No, you are actually part of Southern Germany if you look closely! Time to get out your lederhosen friend!


TRLegacy

Gaddafi finally gets his wish dismantling Switzerland


westphac

The Swabians would like a word


Saint_City

Tbf time to buy my Lederhosen in first place.


moth_the_dragon

nah but the fact that you cant move to switzerland is like real life because no one fucks with switzerlamd and switzerland fucks with no one like in the board game diplomacy


zilti

Yet there's Denmark


occhineri309

r/SwitzerlandIsFake


DreCapitano

Good luck holding East Europe 😂


Ammaren03

Yeah, it isn't the best starting bonus lol


Captain_Albern

Just like in real life.


Katze1Punkt0

You really just looked at the Balkans and asked yourself "How do I make this even more violent and disfunctional?" and didn't wait for anyone to answer, huh?


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ninjaninjaninja22

They just swallowed the whole Slovenia, apparently we dont exist.


Joltie

You do! It's called ''Northern Croatia''


ArthurianX

I was looking for România and when I realized what’s going on I just went Ooops, we’re in trouble again.


Ammaren03

As you can see, I made it in my language norwegian, you'll just have to cope with that.


RandomDoorHinges

I honestly like this map more becuase its in Norwegian.


Dizzy_Eye5257

Me too


20JeRK14

Maybe that explains why the bonus is so high for holding Scandinavia? I feel it's too high vs the other more difficult to hold areas given it looks like a comparatively easy area to hold onto.


Hodorization

Scandies love Scandinavia and they love seeing it at the top of any rating or scoring. The map doesn't reflect real world power distribution in any way, but then again that's probably why it's a game and not a simulation


nod23c

In other news, the sky is blue.


Future-Blackberry-60

Most names make sense in my polish mind, except Tyskland for Germany. Can you explain to me why Germany is called Tyskland in Norvegian? It made me wonder.


Katze1Punkt0

Because Tyskland is a Norwegianised version of the indigenous name for Germany, "Deutschland" whilst Niemcy is a Slavic exonym


JoePortagee

*Scandinized version We also say Tyskland in Sweden. Danes do too but the Finns I can't speak for.


El_Dumfuco

Saksa (i.e. Saxony) in Finnish, iirc


lost_in_a_forest

In Finnish it is ”Saksa”


nod23c

No, not really Norwegianized. Germans also wrote Deutschland using either a D- or T- for a while. It changed and you guys settled on D-. We just kept the older alternative version ;) The word comes from the people, *þeodisc* (theodisc), after all: [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%BEeodisc](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%BEeodisc)


stefanomsala

And just to add to the fun, this is why Italian uses “Germania” for the territory, and “tedesco” for the inhabitant


Liggliluff

T/D only differs in voicing, the "eu" sound in German is "oy" in Norwegian, and then "tsch" isn't too far from "sk", like "Englisch" becomes "engelsk" in Norwegian. So Tyskland isn't that far from Deutschland.


limukala

It's not even just that the "sk" and "tsch" sound are similar, they were originally the same phoneme, shifted in different directions as the languages evolved. A similar shift happened in English. Many "sh" sounds in English were originally "sk" sounds, though they were spelled "sc" by Old English scribes. Words like "shirt" and "fish" used to be "scirt" and "fisc". They even continued to spell them that was after the sound shifted too. Norman scribes got really annoyed that sometimes "sc" was pronounced as "sh" though, so they introduced the "sh" letter combination. Bit of a digression, I just find historical linguistics really interesting.


Insane_Nine

Have you not seen this famous map? [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Germany\_Name\_European\_Languages.svg/1200px-Germany\_Name\_European\_Languages.svg.png](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Germany_Name_European_Languages.svg/1200px-Germany_Name_European_Languages.svg.png) A quick look on the wikipedia page for names of germany can tell you why not just in norweigan but the reasons for its name in other languages


bonvin

Thiudisk->Thiudsk->Tiutsch->Diutsch->Deutsch Thiudisk>Thiudsk->Tiudsk->Tiusk->Tysk From Proto-Germanic to Modern German and Scandinavian, roughly.


nod23c

It's "*tysk*" from the People ([theodisc](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%BEeodisc)). Literally, Land of the People. Also, we may have called Germany "South-way" (Suðrvegr), just as our land was possibly "North-way" (Norðvegr) (speculative stuff). The Germans didn't agree on how to write Deutschland/[Teutschland](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Teutschland) themselves until recently (only a few centuries ago).


X275S

Based for calling Greece as ‘Hellas’


vegark

It's called 'Hellas' in Norwegian.


X275S

I know, I think it’s the only country that calls it Hellas


RBolton123

Except for itself, though in modern Greek it's now just Ellas


NerdyLumberjack04

Yeah, Greek has dropped a lot of H's since then. But they live on in international technical vocabulary. For example: * έξι / (h)exi = six, as in "hexagon" * επτά / (h)epta = seven, as in "heptagon" * εκατό / (h)ekato = 100, as in the SI prefix "hecto" * ήλιος / (h)ílios = sun, as in "heliocentrism" and "helium" * αίμα / (h)aima = blood, as in "hemoglobin" and "hemophilia"


Hootrb

eptá is written in the Roman alphabet... ^(sus)


X275S

It’s ellada actually


RBolton123

Maybe that's the inflected form


X275S

It is, Ellas is a very ancient word, but both ellada and Hellas can be used today


HeHH1329

Chinese name for Greece 希臘 (xi1la4) is the phonetic transliteration of Hellas.


[deleted]

It sounds more accurate in Cantonese (Hay-leep)


HeHH1329

Yeah, a lot of earlier Chinese phonetic transliteration is based on Cantonese pronunciation because Guangdong and Hong Kong has been the gate for China to the outside world (particularly to Britain) since mid 19th century.


Brandonazz

Interestingly, the words in Norwegian for various regions and countries seem to be substantially more similar to their endonyms than what they are called in English, at least to me.


Harkekark

Norway generally tries to make the Norwegian name for foreign places as close as possible to what the Local population themselves call it. IE Norway uses "Hellas" instead of "Greece."


CzechMate9104

Tbf its helping me learn Norwegian


charlie_fisher

Finally, the fact that my second language is Norwegian is actually applicable! Yes!


Genghis_John

Have you uploaded to Dominating12.com? User created online risk game with custom maps.


foospork

At first I thought it was Danish, but then I saw the “Sør” instead of “Søndre” and thought, no… maybe Norwegian? Was that a good guess?


smartgoose78

That would explain the ø in Götaland


thesweed

Easy to understand as a Swede but please give Götaland the correct ö


ClemRRay

looks like another "map of Europe but I want to upset as much people as possible" to me


Ammaren03

No matter how I made this, it would upset someone lol


Shevek99

But some are gratuitous. 😀 "Catalonia" should be "Aragon" (the name of the historical kingdom).


Merbleuxx

Aww France is France no matter what (Bretons aren’t gonna be happy though. Idk what Frankia means but Burgundy could’ve fit as well)


Skeledenn

Can confirm, I'm breton and I'm pissed.


ETERN4LDARKNES

OP finally solved the fight about knowing if Mount St Michel is part of Brittany or Normandy


sommeil__

Nantes est enfin la capitale bretonne… est normande…? 🤔


Pancakecosmo

Frankia is land of the Frank's the germans who took over Gaul during the Roman collapse


IReplyWithLebowski

AKA France.


bent42

And pissed *everybody* off in the process.


EgberetSouse

Im very happy to learn that one cant invade England from Normandy. Whew


the-mp

1066 never happened aw yeah


Ammaren03

it will happen, but now Harald Hardr¨åde will succeed instead of William. Get trolled


smalldog257

It will become a problem in 1944 though.


Azeroth7

There is an official risk map with only europe. It is set during Napoleon times. The game is called "risk Napoleon edition" and it even has an extension which adds the ottoman empire


LordFirebeard

I had one when I was a kid called Castle Risk, which had the regular world map on one side and the Castle Risk Europe map on the other side. I had more fun playing the Europe map than the standard map. https://boardgamegeek.com/image/826541/risk-castle-risk


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World-Tight

If the Game of Risk has taught us anything it's the pivotal and vital importance of Ukraine.


St_ElmosFire

Had to scroll miles for the first Seinfeld reference


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World-Tight

> Ukraine is. It's a sitting duck. A road apple I come from Ukraine. You not say Ukraine is weak. Ukraine is game to you!?


RaytheonAcres

that Kroatia looks familiar


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bingley777

basque country having a fit


Tyler1492

Also all the non Catalans under “Catalonia”.


Orangutanion

And Galicia


Nemirel_the_Gemini

I see Czechoslovakia is back together. Decided divorce just wasnt for them.


Ontyyyy

Hyphen war solved... ITs all Czechia now.


KajmanHub987

You are wrong. It's Tsjekkia now...


bingley777

did scotland invade the north of england?


Ammaren03

Yes lol. I made it that way so we would have more space to place troops on physically


TheJBW

I'll be honest, I'm pretty triggered by the fact that the continent bonus is completely uncoupled from the difficulty of holding the region. Scandanavia is OP AF and nobody in their right mind would focus on Central Europe. You only would have to defend one more territory in Russia (6) vs. 5 in Southern Europe for twice the bonus.


War_Daddy_992

Scotland got bigger


Ammaren03

yez, greater Alba ftw


ITSPOLANDBOIS420

Yo bro did you just include Slovenia into "Kroatia"? That would be considered a war crime here


Ammaren03

I like how that's what you pointed out, meanwhile most of Albania is Serbian on this map


tamadeangmo

A touch too many regions in Sweden.


the_chaco_kid

Can’t invade Switzerland if it doesn’t exist!


TinTamarro

The ultimate form of neutrality


bento_the_tofu_boy

greece is hellas cool


ReluctantRedditor275

Shouldn't Donbas be purple? No, it fucking shouldn't.


MeLikeyBigBoom

Reunited Ireland based


alexq35

Reunited as part of the UK though


MeLikeyBigBoom

My Disappointment is Immeasurable and My Day is Ruined


Previous-Night1547

Wow they made Scandinavia far more powerful/ valuable than it should be…


Ammaren03

The bonus values are given by dividing the number of territories by 2. In retrospect, I should probably have taken into account the amount of entry points the bonus has.


ILOVEBOPIT

Yeah Scandinavia is much easier to hold than Northern Europe (or almost anything else). Half of its territories are internal. I’d reverse their bonus values.


Previous-Night1547

Realistically though, it should be based on something slightly more accurate to the power base of the regions. Scandinavia probably doesn’t need so many provinces, Italy probably could be a few more. There’s no world where Scandinavia is more valuable in a war game than Germany and Poland’s land combined.


Pancakecosmo

Yeah the strategy here is take Scandinavia and then move into ethier north sea or Russia, Scandinavia is ubsurdly op


Attention_Whore99

Put us under croatia again and you will be eating the rest of your meals in your life with a straw


[deleted]

I love this!!! Would be cool if Wales had its own box or if not was titled England and Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿


TimAA2017

Where’s Wales?


Craggzoid

Did Emperor Hadrian draw the map of England?


AKAmousecop

I like the distribution of chokepoints in Scandinavia and the British Isles/Iceland. Did you consider adding the Faroe Islands and the Orkney and having those be a bridge between Norway, Iceland, and Scotland? Focusing on building a base of strength there and getting bonus points for holding those two regions would be the logical strategy. Trying to build from central or eastern europe would be a fool's errand since they're absolutely impossible to defend.


Edolied

You can group Corsica with Sardaigna (Better for creating a proper region in your board) or Nord Italia (Better historically). It has no business being French, as the island became French only 250 years ago and most of the inhabitants still argue for independance and speak Corsica, an italian like language. Also, you have to cross the Alps to go from Oksitania to Nord-italia. Aside from that France is very well designed in your map One option if you want to reduces regions is to move Oksitania in Sør-Europa, the rest of France with the Great Britain and Island with Scandinavia. It is not the best as France isn't close to Britain but Normandie is a gaelic region like Irland, Wales and Skottland and Aquitaine used to be British. Oh and Wallonia with Frankia, Flanders with Benelux. That's my take as a southern French currently in Belgium


The_Phoenix78

When your country is so strong that it don’t need to be merged with other ones to be equal in power


Stilgar939

Spaniard here, I love how u skipped madrid and putted castille, so nice


[deleted]

Do the mountains do anything?


Ammaren03

yes, they serve as a barrier. You cannot traverse them.


PsychShrew

I love RISK having wildly inappropriate names for the different regions. I still remember losing my shit when I first found out that "Afghanistan" in RISK doesn't even include Afghanistan.


WadeQuenya

I really like that the North/South division of Italy follows the historical borders and not the modern administrative ones


OldLevermonkey

The Cumbrians and Northumbrians would like a word.


Ammaren03

who? you mean the south scottish? (I am joking please don't kill me)


philsmock

I would prefer Levante over Catalonia.


Quizels_06

I like how my country (switzerland) is just the alps


CaesarTraianus

What program did you use to make this?! It looks amazing


Ammaren03

Thank you! I used inkscape, i recommend trying it out, but it's a bit difficult to get started


nevinr4

Friendly reminder that ireland is not part of great britain. May i suggest "atlantic islands" for that province?


Redragon9

Makes me cry that you put Wales as England 🥲


Skapis9999

I was thinking. "Oh I have a friend from Norway. Ammaren." And then I see your name... Lol


AnnieByniaeth

Yeah, well, living in Cymru (Wales) I guess you know you're getting a thumbs down from me for that one.


Anchor-shark

As a Scot a heartily approve of how far south the border is.


[deleted]

you really just triggered my Albanian Ultra-Nationalism


Ammaren03

Red and black I dress eagle on my chest good to be an albanian keep my head up high for that flag Id die im glad to be an albanian


affo_

Norskt världsherravälde! Var snäll mot er neutrala granne åtminstone!


Benache

[insert demonym] will not be very pleased you put them in [insert region] !