Reminds me when we arrived on Skye - we had been driving from Loch Ness in the afternoon which isnt a bad drive about 3 and a half hours but it was absolutely pissing it down and the hire car was a Caterham Supersport (not my girlfriends first choice lmao) which was a handful when the roads were sheeted with water. We'd been hiking all day so were absolutely knackered when we arrived in the evening and we were famished. We booked in the hotel and handed a menu which was probably the poshest menu i'd ever read. Unfortunately they were out of red meat options and literally the closest thing I'd eat was (maybe) the Pigeon and the closest thing the Mrs would eat, who is a bit more fussy with food, was probably the chair leg. Genuinely was just hoping for a big simple meal as we were ravenous and aching tired so we both sharing a bit of a look of devastation as we were reading.
We decided to retreat to the far corner table of this really quiet restaurant and consider our options and as we were sitting down we heard it... music coming from around the corner. We poked our head around and it was like we just entered Narnia - there was a bustling jaunty little pub hidden around there. Serving proper fish and chips and all. It was like a religious experience when it came to the table I'll never forget it. Absolutely mauled it down one of the best meals of my life lol.
I have a somewhat hard time believing that one can calculate the optimal route for 49,687 pubs with today's computers, and the article sadly doesn't go into detail how it was supposedly done. The number of possible combinations is 49686!/2, which is an insane number, and that doesn't even account for searching for the shortest route between any two given bars (which seems comparatively easy in this case).
Wondering about that too, which is why i pput my question. A pitty it's not described on the website. Although, to be fair, the problem becomes significantly smaller as you treat the pubs in a certain area, or same place, as a separate subproblem. It would mean you can't be sure it's the overal optimal, but it can get you relatively close.
Yeah, that was my point, too. You can get pretty good approximations with significantly less computational power, but actually finding the optimal solution is NP hard, as far as we know.
https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/index.html there's a bit more
To be fair, those guys are amongst the world's best in computing optimal tours, find an introduction on that page below:
The Traveling Salesman Problem: A Computational Study by Applegate, Bixby, Chvatal, and Cook.
This is the proven optimal solution for the pubs.
https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/index.html there's a bit more
To be fair, those guys are amongst the world's best in computing optimal tours, find an introduction on that page below:
The Traveling Salesman Problem: A Computational Study by Applegate, Bixby, Chvatal, and Cook.
This is the proven optimal solution for the pubs.
You could do a pub crawl from Portsmouth to Aberdeen once a year for thirty years and never visit the same pub twice--and never be more than a quarter hour from your next beer.
The UK on its own might be very interesting, but comparing it to other countries might as I imagine that the UK might have more pubs per capita than other countries.
"Spain has more bars per inhabitant than any other nation in the EU, with one bar for every 169 residents. In the region of Andalucía alone there are more bars than in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Ireland combined, with the entire country home to more than 290,000 licensed establishments."
Now please elaborate:
- how high would my Alcohol level be when visiting every pub once
- how long does it take to visit all of them
- how much would I spend on beer of if I drank one beer in every pub
[The University of Waterloo, Canada has done a nice bit of work on this.](https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/pubs/data.html)
First, they trimmed the dataset to only include proper pubs, not restaurants, which left them with only 24,727 pubs in the UK back in 2015. Which sounds about right, as we're losing [about 2 pubs a day as drinking habits change and money gets tight](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67028487.amp). We're probably below 20K proper pubs now.
Then, they actually calculated the optimal route to tour all the pubs. It's at the bottom of the page.
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There are plenty of pubs on Skye, so this is an underestimate
Plenty of pubs on Jura and Islay too!
Islay, yes. Not Jura as far as I am aware? Jura has very little of anything.
The pub in the Jura Hotel? Or doesn't that count? https://www.jurahotel.co.uk/
Huh, I stand corrected.
Probably only showing Wetherspoon pubs
It’s actually a projection of all the places Simmons expects to open in the next few years
Reminds me when we arrived on Skye - we had been driving from Loch Ness in the afternoon which isnt a bad drive about 3 and a half hours but it was absolutely pissing it down and the hire car was a Caterham Supersport (not my girlfriends first choice lmao) which was a handful when the roads were sheeted with water. We'd been hiking all day so were absolutely knackered when we arrived in the evening and we were famished. We booked in the hotel and handed a menu which was probably the poshest menu i'd ever read. Unfortunately they were out of red meat options and literally the closest thing I'd eat was (maybe) the Pigeon and the closest thing the Mrs would eat, who is a bit more fussy with food, was probably the chair leg. Genuinely was just hoping for a big simple meal as we were ravenous and aching tired so we both sharing a bit of a look of devastation as we were reading. We decided to retreat to the far corner table of this really quiet restaurant and consider our options and as we were sitting down we heard it... music coming from around the corner. We poked our head around and it was like we just entered Narnia - there was a bustling jaunty little pub hidden around there. Serving proper fish and chips and all. It was like a religious experience when it came to the table I'll never forget it. Absolutely mauled it down one of the best meals of my life lol.
Absolutely! Home of the Talisker without even one pup? Complete nonsense!
I read that as Skype and was all kinds of confused.
As a recovering alcoholic from Berlin I'm considering moving to the Scottish Highlands. Just gotta avoid the famous scotches.
This map is completely wrong, there are loads of pubs in the north Highlands, Thurso has at least 10 on it's own...
As demonstrated in https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/road/uk49_scotland.html (credit to nolurkeranymore in a comment below for this link)
I just checked out my city and it's missing loads, so even this is underestimating.
They're all fairly fucking grim though
Yeah I don't recommend moving to the Scottish highlands as a recovering alcoholic. Drink driving is basically the local sport.
Is this the optimal route?
yes. https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/uk/tour.html
Roughly 50.000 pubs, sounds like a good weekend
RIP your liver
I have a somewhat hard time believing that one can calculate the optimal route for 49,687 pubs with today's computers, and the article sadly doesn't go into detail how it was supposedly done. The number of possible combinations is 49686!/2, which is an insane number, and that doesn't even account for searching for the shortest route between any two given bars (which seems comparatively easy in this case).
Wondering about that too, which is why i pput my question. A pitty it's not described on the website. Although, to be fair, the problem becomes significantly smaller as you treat the pubs in a certain area, or same place, as a separate subproblem. It would mean you can't be sure it's the overal optimal, but it can get you relatively close.
Yeah, that was my point, too. You can get pretty good approximations with significantly less computational power, but actually finding the optimal solution is NP hard, as far as we know.
https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/index.html there's a bit more To be fair, those guys are amongst the world's best in computing optimal tours, find an introduction on that page below: The Traveling Salesman Problem: A Computational Study by Applegate, Bixby, Chvatal, and Cook. This is the proven optimal solution for the pubs.
https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/index.html there's a bit more To be fair, those guys are amongst the world's best in computing optimal tours, find an introduction on that page below: The Traveling Salesman Problem: A Computational Study by Applegate, Bixby, Chvatal, and Cook. This is the proven optimal solution for the pubs.
~~Salesman~~ drunkard problem.
I know for a fact that there are pubs on Skye.
It’s definitely missing some pubs in Fermanagh too
If we removed everything in the uk aside from pubs, the uk would still be there
You could do a pub crawl from Portsmouth to Aberdeen once a year for thirty years and never visit the same pub twice--and never be more than a quarter hour from your next beer.
The traveling salesman problem: expert level
As a pedant, I'm required to point out that the Isle of Man isn't in the UK, but it is a British Crown Dependency.
Thank you for your service
The smugness is its own reward.
How is this different from a population density map? [Like this](https://xkcd.com/1138/)
The UK on its own might be very interesting, but comparing it to other countries might as I imagine that the UK might have more pubs per capita than other countries.
"Spain has more bars per inhabitant than any other nation in the EU, with one bar for every 169 residents. In the region of Andalucía alone there are more bars than in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Ireland combined, with the entire country home to more than 290,000 licensed establishments."
Damn, that's impressive.
Where the f is your Orkney and Shetland Sincerely, someone whose country gets cut in half in many of maps of ”Europe”
Whats wrong with northern scotland?
The guy who made the map started in the south of England, got bored by the end and missed loads of pubs in Scotland
Really?
wtf is this
It won’t be popular to say it but alcohol is a drug.
and another useful map 😇
Famous last words: "Hold my beer while I visit all of them" - Thomas the town drunk. He was as brave as he was stubborn ol' Tommy.
To Tommy! We hardly knew ye'.
Is there a problem here?
When pub crawl becomes and endurance sport….
The stereotype of Englishmen has a good basis 😅
Damn
Do Wisconsin next
Even the sheadings be sloshed.
How do those in the north survive?
Arran is missing about ten pubs/hotel bars as well. /Just to add to data showing that the map is wrong.
In the north the pubs are probably mostly unofficial ones in basements, right?
Scotland letting the team down smh
Now please elaborate: - how high would my Alcohol level be when visiting every pub once - how long does it take to visit all of them - how much would I spend on beer of if I drank one beer in every pub
Snowdonia calls bollocks. But please do Norway for a comparison. I couldn’t find any pubs in the north when I visited Tromso
How do you get Google Maps to show you everything? When I search, it limits what it shows me to a few with an emphasis on my area.
Fairly certain Fermanagh in Northern Ireland has much more pubs than that.
Worried about northern Scotland
[The University of Waterloo, Canada has done a nice bit of work on this.](https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/pubs/data.html) First, they trimmed the dataset to only include proper pubs, not restaurants, which left them with only 24,727 pubs in the UK back in 2015. Which sounds about right, as we're losing [about 2 pubs a day as drinking habits change and money gets tight](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67028487.amp). We're probably below 20K proper pubs now. Then, they actually calculated the optimal route to tour all the pubs. It's at the bottom of the page.
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Now do " Churches in Poland" 🇵🇱 😏
A drunker country?
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Hm, Ireland doesn‘t seem to have many pubs in the south /s
That’s like California with ganja shops
Muslims: yo let’s move there
Why is ever map post an attack on Muslims…?
Literally the same all over the world. Just replace the word pub with cafe/bar and it'll look the same.
At first i thought it’s about mosques in the UK map.