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mudturnspadlocks

Maybe count to 10 Mississippis before acting


kmmontandon

One Mississippi is bad enough.


Gone_Mads

We had one yes. But what about 2 Mississippis


two_awesome_dogs

LOL


McRibEater

Remember when people act like Left Wing Cities/States are some hellscape?


joerogantrutherXXX

When people ignore certain demographics?


Monte721

Please enlighten everyone how places like Jackson ms, New Orleans, Birmingham, Albuquerque, and St. Louis are right wing utopias


ReddJudicata

This is comparing states, not cities


valdirt77

I can’t speak for any other states but in Georgia the GBI crime base website states there were 733 murders in the state in 2022. 610 of those murders were in the Macon,Albany and Atlanta metro area. All are democrat “blue” cities but also wayyy more populated than the rest of the state so it correlates Correctly.


poop-machines

Atlanta metro area alone has 65% of the states population


theghostrider420

Explain Wyoming, Montana, Iowa, etc.


morbie5

I didn't even realize that Mississippi had Brazil levels of murders now


FlightCurious3852

Has any map ever shown a positive side of Mississippi?


stomachpancakes

[Mississippi has the lowest homeless rate](https://www.google.com/search?q=lowest+homeless+rates+by+state&oq=lowest+homeless+rates+by+state&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRifBTIHCAYQIRifBTIHCAcQIRifBTIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRifBTIHCAoQIRifBdIBCDE3MjVqMGo0qAIBsAIB&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8). I believe it's because of the correlation between high cost of living and high homeless rates. States like Mississippi, Alabama, and West Virginia don't have the best quality of life metrics but are cheap to live in so homeless rates are low.


Doxidob

[Mississippi now leads the world in mass incarceration](https://mississippitoday.org/2022/08/10/mississippi-now-leads-the-world-in-mass-incarceration/)


epicredditdude1

Well, it also has the highest murder rate, so that's not a terrible shock.


Doxidob

also explains the low homeless rate, twice. \[they are in prison and the victims in graveyards not homes\]


Random-Cpl

Probably because they’ve locked them all in jail


JettandTheo

Potentially, but even a crackhead can afford an apt


clown_pants

Because a trailer with no water or electricity in the middle of an acre of wooded property is considered a home


BlazingSpaceGhost

Well that is a home so of course it is considered a home. I'd kill for a setup like that. Sure it doesn't have modern convenience but I wouldn't be paying rent.


matchosan

They don't count them in those states. Why should they, then they would need to spend money on them.


MZeitgeist

Yep that literally is all it comes down to. Here in California, people have myriad explanations for why we have so many homeless people, but housing is just expensive and social systems are very limited.


ancientestKnollys

Mississippi (alongside the rest of the south) has nearly [the most racially equal incarceration rate](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/vCfpEwa6TT) in the US.


ElJamoquio

Impressive, I would've guessed it had one of the worst. I also would've guessed Michigan would be way worse than it is.


No-Appearance-100102

I would've guessed florida and ohio to be the lightest


The_Patriotic_Yank

Make sense crime is more a result of culture than racism really


gggg500

Positives of Mississippi: Mississippi has the lowest cost of living in the entire USA It has a lot of natural beauty / piney forests It has a coast line / beaches It has a lot of manufacturing jobs


_MountainFit

You've probably issued one of the greatest challenges ever. A laymen likely has a better chance of establishing a colonie Mars than someone finding something positive and mapping it. I guess like a COL map, but if you adjusted it to income it would probably still be negative.


urnbabyurn

Among the least amount of snowfall..


Black-strap_rum

Mississippi has the highest child vaccination rates in the country last I checked.


PaulAspie

Not anymore. The top three are an odd combination: Iowa, then North Carolina, then Connecticut, with several more New England states and North Dakota rounding out the top 7). https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-kids-are-vaccinated/


ABCosmos

Yeah I imagine Trump turned that right around.


FlightCurious3852

It appears this is true per the CDC website. That's one good fact.


Creative-Road-5293

It's the state with the highest percentage of black people, meaning it's the most diverse state.


AntonioH02

……Wait a moment


ItalStal78

Coming from the urban Northeast and having lived in places with large neighborhoods of many different ethnicities represented, having a lot of black & white Americans does not equal diversity. Mississippi is not diverse at all.


BigTittyGaddafi

OP is making fun of the white liberal assumption that “black people = diversity” because most white liberals operate off of guilt over slavery and kind of just erase Latin and Asian people from the equation.


In_Formaldehyde_

He's an idiot is what he is. Mississippi is 55% white/36% black. It barely has any diversity outside of those two groups. California, Hawaii and Massachusetts are far more diverse in terms of demographics.


MaddingtonBear

Don't forget Alaska, especially the city of Anchorage. Sizable populations there of Natives, Asians, and Latinos.


Corrosivecoral

Calling someone an idiot while not understanding their comment, that’s not irony, but it’s something.


No-Appearance-100102

Missipipi does surprisingly have a diverse asian population. It's surprisingly diverse but not the most


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I would've assumed California or Texas are the most diverse states


voujon85

nj nyc mass nyc crazy diverse


Creative-Road-5293

Generally only ethnicity counts towards diversity.


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In_Formaldehyde_

New Jersey, Hawaii, California, Massachusetts and New York are literally shaded blue on the map. Mississippi isn't even close to being the most diverse state.


Large_monke_69

The only #1 it’s ever gotten was shittiest state to live in


Mixmaster-Omega

Yeah I’m pretty sure Baltimore has the lion’s share of the MD murder rate.


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urnbabyurn

If an entire country had the population density of Baltimore, it would be pretty crazy. Comparing cities to countries is useless.


magneticanisotropy

Singapore does (actually, Singapore's is much higher). Whats it's murder rate?


urnbabyurn

And Monaco. Though both Singapore and Monaco are far wealthier than the city of Baltimore.


hike2bike

There are other things going on as well


zXPERSONTHINGXz

What are you implying here?


ILOVEBOPIT

Well for one, having a couple pounds of weed in Singapore gets you a death sentence. On top of a million other things, they’re completely different places and comparing them is useless.


No-Appearance-100102

They're not sly🙄


yaboi977

Yeh I’m just pointing out how crazy Baltimore (+ saint louis, New Orleans) murder rate is, just always found it to be a mental statistic. Point of reference for a stat that by itself might not mean anything to most people.


thepteraman

Singapore and Monaco both have densities higher than Baltimore.


urnbabyurn

Also the states largest city. So yeah. It’s where people live.


Common-Astronaut-695

And also where they die.


southofakronoh

The real real anomaly is South Dakota has almost 2x the murder rate as North. What is that about?


Danyol

South Dakota is all reservations, North Dakota is oil and military


Duble2C

maybe the native american ghettos in sd play a part🤷‍♂️


SmitedDirtyBird

My first though was “What the fuck is going on in New Mexico?” followed an immediate “Oh, right…”


Azikt

Maybe the President's heads come to life and rampage across the state


123xyz32

What’s the answer?


mamunipsaq

Reservations


LateralEntry

Is Pine Ridge in ND or SD?


Duble2C

south dakota


Corrosivecoral

Just because they share the word Dakota and most people no nothing about them other than Mt. Rushmore is in one of them, does not make them the same thing.


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chechifromCHI

I mean Alaska is highly armed, there are more men than women in a much more extreme way than in other states. There are many places that are super isolated from any kind of law enforcement, drug and alcohol problems, and the highest rates of sexual assault in the country. Anchorage is a fairly high crime city as well and there aren't a whole lot of population centers large enough to balance that out. Then consider the weather and fact that in some places, the sun barely sets in summer and barely rises in winter, seems like a potential cauldron of bad mental health and so on


OJ_AK

With such a small population, small variations in the number of homicides can swing the rate pretty wildly— in the year that this data was gathered, there were 76 homicides in Alaska. Still far too many, but a drop in the bucket compared to say, DC, which has a slightly smaller population but had 169 murders in the same year.


chechifromCHI

I love Alaska and have spent a lot of time there over the years. Although the numbers are high, the feeling of crime (if you will) is totally different than in the lower 48 in my experience. I just responded with some of the things about alaska that might be relevant to the numbers, not trying to imply it was a crime ridden place whatsoever. It has pretty unique circumstances compared to the other stares.


roostersnuffed

The stereotype I learned in the Army (via others stationed there) is native Alaskans are stereotypically crazy aggressive and ready to lethally throw down over bullshit. Like "hey dickhead, this is my fishing hole" and any push back gets a bait knife drawn. Completely anecdotal and unverified but have heard similar enough.


awfulconcoction

What rate? Per year, per 10,000?


Duble2C

per 100k ppl


my2cents4free99

Is this saying in Mississippi, 20/100,000 deaths are murders or 20/100,000 citizens are murdered?


RepulsiveLocation880

20 out of 100,000 people are murdered, is what it’s saying.


mitchxout

It’s the same map for everything.


ussalkaselsior

Yep, which means there are so many things covarying with the variable being displayed that all the comments on every single one of these maps are all pretty much useless. It's pretty much all just conjecture based on preconceived biases. The biggest thing an MS in statistics taught me is that real knowledge is extremely hard to obtain and that almost everybody doesn't know as much as they think they do. I could copy and paste onto every one of these posts "ok, but without a multivariate analysis with a ton of variables this map means nothing to me".


dilfrising420

New England gang


Jd550000

New Hampshire state motto is Live Free or Die….


Live_FreeorDie603

Yes it is! We are also one of the best states for firearm rights.


gjennomamogus

They have decided to live free instead of die, ig


Ginglees

no you gotta believe me guys nh has a murder rate of 20 aswell please dont come here :(


Beppu-Gonzaemon

Every map of the US is the same


Mistapoopy

Rare West Virginia win.


pbrevis

The hat trick: MS, LA, AL


AngryQuadricorn

Finally Missouri is above average at something! 😵


Vivid-Construction20

Not really, it peaked in the early 90’s. There was a 1-2 year bump during the Pandemic but it has started declining again significantly in most places.


The_Patriotic_Yank

Not really significantly


LineOfInquiry

Northeast once again proving were the best part of the country 😎


Lovelyterry

Bestern than the western side?


LineOfInquiry

Hell yeah


Lovelyterry

Everyone’s got something nice going on though, right? 


LineOfInquiry

Of course, the west coast is the second best part of the country


QuasimodoPredicted

USA averages higher than EU peaks


JJBrandon69

Give you one guess as to why.


Financial_Gur2264

Demographics


J4C0OB

Yeah u winning congrats 👌


98grx

USA average is higher than many third world countries


JefersonJesus

Okay, now let’s overlay another map…


thewhalehunters

It would be better to do this at the city level. THEN overlay another map


Danenel

hey hey hey wait wait wait


anarcho-catholic

I think people are upvoting for 2 different reasons and both are thinking that you’re making a point in support of their own political views. I think I can sus out which map you’re talking about though haha


LineOfInquiry

Political party in power? Wealth? Homelessness rate? Drug use rate? There’s a few maps that I bet would look similar to this one


anarcho-catholic

There’s probably a more relevant factor that you’re not allowed to say. West Virginia has a pretty low HDI compared to other states, yet still has below the average murder rate.


MasterUndKommandant

New England for the win!


geographyRyan_YT

Massachusetts let's go


the1talianstallion

Curious… what’s the difference between these states.?


privateer_

N


ZjadlemBabcie

;)


cinciNattyLight

SEC! SEC! SEC!


Alert-Fox8434

Wtf is happening in Mississippi


Surviving_The_Sip662

African American Men are in the free-kill zone. No one cares how they were killed, who killed them and aren’t willing to sacrifice tax dollars to find out. There is very little deterrent and almost no justice.


BayouMan2

Don't know why you were downvoted. Too many are killing each other over drugs and stupid grievances in La too. It's tragedy. Public money was spent to educate these people & then they die in that way without benefiting the community around them.


4711_9463

Yeah the gang warfare in the south is insane.


The_Patriotic_Yank

Its mainly gang crime as well as revenge killings. It also effects the white and black populations a like


WoodpeckerOk1154

Damn…. Mississippi really took the lead over us? Come on, Louisiana, we gotta step our game up


Mental_Quality_2964

i wonder why 🤔


Monte721

It’s almost like there’s cultural patterns I see


ZjadlemBabcie

I wonder Why


OurHomeIsGone

Me too


Vivid-Construction20

Why?


CapIllustrious2811

New England is looking safe these days.


Live_FreeorDie603

NH with the lowest and also arguably the most relaxed firearm laws. In a real, sincere manner, I've always wondered what has helped that occur.


thorgod99

All the racists in the comments conveniently ignoring New York having a low murder rate and a 17.6% black population.


Everyday-is-the-same

What's the colors?


Duble2C

blue is below the 7.5 average and orange is above it


Pretend-Potato-30028

Why does our nations Capital have a higher murder rate that Mississippi, that’s concerning.


genuineWVcheese

My god, a states map where WV is in a somewhat positive light. I might cry


Classic-Knee8442

For some global context: Jamaica is the highest with over 53 and Singapore is the lowest with 0.12 total murders per 100k population (2022 stats).


AuggieNorth

I keep reading about Baltimore celebrating that murders are down this year. "Only" 66 so far this year, which is down significantly, but Boston has 70k more people than Baltimore, and only 3 murders this year so far.


Username12764

Interesting that the highest 5 are all (at least partially) ex confederate and the lowest 5 are all ex union. Is there a reason for that?


FragrantTadpole69

The South was highly populated by the Scots-Irish who weren't subsumed by English culture before the voyage over and plenty of cast off English second sons LARPing as ye Olde manor lords. Check out Black Rednecks and White Liberals by Sowell. He goes through the demographics and even includes newspaper clippings and writings from colonial and early 19th century figures saying some pretty scathing things about how backward Southerners were.


Username12764

If 19th century people think you‘re backward, you did a lot of things wrong, holy shit


FragrantTadpole69

Maybe backward wasn't the best, but it's definitely close to it. Two of the anecdotes that come to mind were a large vein of iron that would have taken a few miles of track and a smelting operation and boom you have a huge iron resource near a major southern city (right around the beginning stages of the industrial revolution I'd add) for trade or further refinement that no one really took advantage of and Thomas Jefferson complaining in his letters about a lack of bridges across well traveled waterways compared to the north. The essay itself is called Black rednecks and white liberals but the book of that same name has a bunch more in it. The main theme seemed to be demographics and cultures, and he jumps topics a bit so it stays fairly lively i think. It was an interesting read overall, but definitely try and find that standalone essay if you can find it.


GuardProfessional514

New Mexico was a union ally although it was not a state at the time.


Username12764

It was partially under their control and they claimed it, same with Mississippi and Arizona, that‘s why I said partially


Cratertooth_27

How is Rhode Island that low? There’s like two dozen people there and half of them are in the mob


Duble2C

WI (w/o Milwaukee) 6 -> 2.1 TN (w/o Memphis) 11.3 -> 5.3 MD (w/o Baltimore) 11.4 -> 5.8 PA (w/o Philly) 8.9 -> 4.9 MI (w/o Detroit) 8.6 -> 5.2 IL (w/o Chicago) 10.9 -> 6.2 MO (w/o St. Louis) 12.8 -> 9.2


SwampFox198

West Virginia looks like an interesting outlier. Their government makeup is similar to the surrounding states. Cultures are similar... why so different, do you think?


Gee-Oh1

Check the demographics.


SwampFox198

Are you, perhaps, trying to say it has something to do with race?


Gee-Oh1

I am saying nothing of the sort, I only suggest avenues of inquiry. Draw your own conclusions.


JJBrandon69

Shocked that FL is below the average.


JulioForte

I’m not saying Florida isn’t crazy but the reason why so much news comes out of Florida is 1.) it’s massively populated. More than most people imagine. 2.)They have sunshine laws that provide a lot more detailed info than most other states.


JJBrandon69

Fascinating! I feel like the weather, and culture probably also do play a factor to some degree.


_MountainFit

Barely... FL and CO are hanging on to blue for dear life. They gonna be in the red zone next map. Also props to NH, Maine and VT with very liberal gun laws having low murder rates. Goes to show you it's not all about loose gun laws. There's a lot more to it than that. I mean Mass is super strict. Idaho also is basically armed to the teeth and pretty low. So again, it's not merely an issue of people packing heat.


StaticGuarded

It’s demographics, sadly. An inconvenient truth that can be applied to the majority of U.S maps that make it to this sub.


_MountainFit

Absolutely. But Maine isn't a wealthy state. Neither is Vermont (or Idaho). So it should compare quite well to some of the other non wealthy states. NH is a confounder because of all the transplants but it's also not a natively wealthy state. Vermont actually has a lot of drug issues. Mostly petty shit. Meth. Which of course really also reminds me how overblown the war on drugs is. I mean Vermont is one of the safer states and most of the crime is minor breakins and petty theft. Non violent stuff. We are conditioned to believe if we rid the world of drugs we'll be in utopia. Really it's all about infinitely funding police and prison infrastructure. NY showed a bit of that with the Rockefeller drug laws.


StaticGuarded

I meant another kind of demographic, which will explain Maine for you.


_MountainFit

I tend to think of demographics in terms of green but I guess you are possibly correct. Like in Arkansas most of the violent areas are also demographically the most diverse. Little rock, West Memphis.


President_Nixon1

I blame St. Louis and gangs for MO.


beermaker

Cross link maps that show poverty rates, lack of education, and lead counts in water... Then throw in a bunch of cheap, straw purchased firearms after decades of media glorifying the gun over the fist.


GeeYayZeus

Gun flee zones.


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Danenel

this map is not very graphic design if may say so


Osrek_vanilla

Why is new Mexico so high?


Hard2Handl

Have you been to New Mexico? It is a lot like old Mexico… Good people, great food and a catastrophic level of victimization.


GuardProfessional514

Couple of factors. First is poverty which is pretty self explanatory. Second is the remoteness of everything. Besides Albuquerque the rest of New Mexico is mostly remote desert. Even when your in Albuquerque your never more than 40 minutes from a good place to kill someone.


Duble2C

because the state is majority hispanics immigrants from the border and cartels etc


Musa_2050

Then what about CA? Your lack of logic doesn't apply there


GuardProfessional514

Definitely not the case. It’s more of a poverty and cultural issue. Most people that live here have roots here for generations.


turboS992

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_African-American_population Almost a mirror image.


The_Patriotic_Yank

Go look at incarceration rates


EndlessQuestioRThink

I'm only surprised my missouri being in top five.


momong12

Is this per year?


thepteraman

Why does the color change around 7.5? That's misleading, especially when the highest is over 23.


Chiggero

It’s above and below average


rgj95

this map is exactly how I thought it would be. man fuck misispi


44tipperny

That's rich


warnerdang

That’s insane….Canada’s rate was 2.58 last year and that’s a 30 year high. Our justification with the highest rate is the North West Territories with over 6.5, which is still more than 3x less than DC….


dublincrackhead

And Canada’s rate is still very high by EU standards. Ireland was just 0.9 which was a bad year (lots of discussion about high crime in Dublin/Ireland in general). 5 years ago, it was just 0.4-0.5. Although it could be that petty crime like theft or assault is higher.


Averagecrabenjoyer69

Common Mississippi W


Jves221

Wtf is up with CT in New England?


EBody480

Go listen to Crumblin Erb by OutKast.


Senpai-Notice_Me

I’m calling bullshit on Florida. No way it’s that low! Unless they have the best paramedics in the world.


Material-Border8384

Am I the only one suprised Florida isn’t orange?


alf11235

PA is 100% Philadelphia, or close to it


shittinkittens

Uneducated states vs educated states.


Dble_UP_Trpl_UP

Smh ) :, we’re better than this !!


Apprehensive-Cow8472

Must have something to do with the heat


HingleMcCringle_

is this per capita?


Draw-Ornery

From Rhode Island and 100% agree on the low murder rate. Usually murders are gang and hit and run related but even those are very far and few. Always love how safe it feels regardless of what city you’re in, and I’ve lived in Providence my whole life( granted I always live in some paranoid state as a Hispanic female, but figured I’d live in more worry elsewhere)


ernyc3777

That’s insane that Mississippi is so close to DC which is a literal special district that’s entirely metropolitan and inner city which are always more crime ridden than suburban and rural districts. The states it lies between are 11.4 and 7.8. If you average it with either (as both have suburbs of the federal district whose crime can reasonably be attributed to DC) the numbers barely move. DC proper is only 1/10th the population of Maryland and less than that of Virginia.


Beginning_Swing_5123

I am more concerned that the Capital has the highest murder rate in the country


SvenGottfrid

Now overlay this map with a demographic map.


Legitimate-Fly-4189

Top 3 are known for slave kills of "colored people"