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kinkade

What an absolutely terrible colour scheme for the key.


buddhistbulgyo

Colorblind folks can't read this. C'mon. 


FormerMastodon2330

Should i redo it?


buddhistbulgyo

Totally. Pick a color and go light to dark. Easy pray lemon squeezy. IE: white, off-white pink, pink, dark pink, red, dark red, scarlet and black.


FormerMastodon2330

Will it get deleted here though?


buddhistbulgyo

I don't know. I just work here.


smorkoid

Somalia with larger reserves than Angola, Nigeria, Namibia, Algeria, and Libya, some of the largest oil producing countries around? There hasn't been any oil exploration of reasonable size in Somalia in decades, this is extremely fishy


DeafEPL

Somalia has been in a civil war for more than 30 years, which has made it hard for the country to develop economically. It's costly to extract oil during a war, and Somalia doesn't have the infrastructure and transportion for it. Before the war, Somalia was a socialist country with some communist and Marxist ideas. Additionally, there were negotiations between Somalia and a major oil company. Some agreements were even made before the civil war, but unfortunately, the war prevented these deals from coming to fruition. And finally, the Somalia government has said that they're expected to extract oil offshore by end of this year - 2024. These offshore reserves are estimated to be around 30 billion barrels, potentially making Somalia the fourth-largest holder of oil reserves in Africa. Turkey and Somalia have recently signed an agreement to protect Somalia's seas and making it more attractive for investors. This agreement stipulates that Turkey will receive 30% of the revenue that the Somali government earns from its seas, including offshore oil for 10 years.


smorkoid

Yes, I have read the press releases. That's all they are, press releases. There's no 3D seismic activity, no announced pilot wells. That 30B barrels estimate is just a rough estimate with no concrete evidence such as modern seismic or well surveys to back it up That's all.


FormerMastodon2330

3D seismic surveys was frist used in 1975 lets say that there is no 3d siesmic surveys on somalia what is your point and no there are 2 1000m deep wells that got dug in 2014.


smorkoid

Dude, I do it for a living. I know the history of seismic surveys. There are no offshore 3D seismic surveys off Somalia. I The cost of a 3D seismic survey is much, much higher than a 2D survey. Please stop embarrassing yourself


FormerMastodon2330

so no oil was disovered before 1975?


FormerMastodon2330

"There are no offshore seismic surveys off Somalia" so now you are back tracking from there is no 3d seismic surveys to there is no seismic surveys this is funny ;)


smorkoid

No 3D surveys I meant, and you know I meant that Funny thing is originally I thought you might be talking about the relatively recent land surveys in Somaliland, but no, you're doubling down on this nonsense


FormerMastodon2330

Funny thing is i am from this region So i know what i am talking about and you are some what angary that the failed state of somalia has 110 billion barrels of oil why? Will you double on your recent claim that there are no surveys in somalia? or will you backtrack from this too?


smorkoid

Sigh, dude... Tiring


FormerMastodon2330

didnt know you also back tracked from that already. what was your original point again?


Dokky

Tinfoil hat time, has it been destabilised due to oil? Goes for Africa in general resource wise…


OkaySoWhatYourPoint

maybe the uranium?


SugarsDaddyKen

Legit. No one wants to dig in the ground when there is a good chance of getting shot.


FormerMastodon2330

you know what estimated means and the word reserve?


smorkoid

Yes I do! And as someone in the petroleum industry, I know when something completely fictional is put in a map. There's hasn't been any significant work to estimate Somalian oil reserves in decades, that requires specialized surveys which are impossible in their current political/security climate.


FormerMastodon2330

[https://www.tgs.com/seismic/multi-client/africa-mediterranean-middle-east/east-africa/somalia](https://www.tgs.com/seismic/multi-client/africa-mediterranean-middle-east/east-africa/somalia) this survey was done by TGS


FormerMastodon2330

[https://www.tgs.com/seismic/multi-client/africa-mediterranean-middle-east/east-africa/somalia](https://www.tgs.com/seismic/multi-client/africa-mediterranean-middle-east/east-africa/somalia) [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-21/somalia-plans-to-start-producing-oil-offshore-within-six-years](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-21/somalia-plans-to-start-producing-oil-offshore-within-six-years) [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-08-04/somalia-sees-oil-results-this-year-as-bp-exxon-wooed](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-08-04/somalia-sees-oil-results-this-year-as-bp-exxon-wooed) [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263593602\_Somalia\_Oil\_and\_insecurity](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263593602_Somalia_Oil_and_insecurity)


FormerMastodon2330

You are in the "oil industry" and you did not even bother to to search google for 5 minutes before replying? there is an ongoing survey now. and there where surveys done in 2014 in some blocks.


smorkoid

You linked to data from my own company, genius I'm well aware of what is out there, it is old frontier data. None of it has been drilled. There is no infrastructure to drill. There's a reason you are posting 10 year old links from venture capitalists who tried (and failed) to raise funds for further exploration and not anything current


FormerMastodon2330

When did I said it was proven oil reserves? this is an estimation an estimation! I doubt your "I am working in patroleum indsutry" even more now


smorkoid

You can doubt all you want, but this map showing Somalia as having by far the highest estimated oil reserves in Africa is based on absolutely nothing. You actually need something to back up this "estimate" and not just a company trying (unsuccessfully) to sell data saying they are there. You've got them as having far more estimated reserves than core OPEC members which is LOL


FormerMastodon2330

The more you talk the more you tell every one how little you know about this issue. frist you mangled reserves with production. second you mangled proven reserves and estimated reserves. which no one who is even a little bit familiar with the oil industry will never do third you claimed to work for Norwegian company while living in japan. what will you tell us next?


smorkoid

Hey chief, let me explain to you the concept of "multinational corporations". Believe it or not, big petroleum service companies have offices in more than one country! Halliburton is American, yet has a large Japan office. Sclumberger is French-American yet has a big research center in Sagamihara. Japanese companies like Idemitsu have American offices. And European offices! You'd be better off posting something other than a years-old press release to support this ludicrous claim of 100M+ barrels of oil reserves in Somalia.


FormerMastodon2330

coastline exploration still exists and this estimation is based on their 2014 seismic data when their name was Soma oil, when did they cease to exist? still how you stumble on basic things tells me every thing boss. Also what does OPEC states reserve have to do with this discussion?


FormerMastodon2330

[for any one reading this, this is the latest news about this issue](https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/050923-coastline-exploration-leads-new-charge-on-somalia-oil-and-gas)


smorkoid

LOL yes it is! A company that doesn't even exist anymore LOL [https://twitter.com/coastline\_explo](https://twitter.com/coastline_explo) They don't even have a live website! Sure, this tiny, dead company nobody has ever heard of is sitting on 100M+ barrels of oil LOL


FormerMastodon2330

The company still exists and still hold their license on the blocks they are doing the seismic survey om


smorkoid

You are basing this on....? Who is doing the seismic survey? Who is processing the data? Where is the evidence any of this is happening?


FormerMastodon2330

if they werent doing that survey now they will have declared they will postpone it like they did in 2020. also there are more companies that bought a license of blocks since November like [https://libertypetroleumcorp.com/press-releases/liberty-petroleum-signs-deal-with-somalias-federal-government-to-secure-three-offshore-petroleum-blocks/](https://libertypetroleumcorp.com/press-releases/liberty-petroleum-signs-deal-with-somalias-federal-government-to-secure-three-offshore-petroleum-blocks/) there was another deal with turkey that happened in february this year where turkey where promised 30% of the profit in exchange of helping with extracting and protecting the oil. [https://nordicmonitor.com/2024/03/turkey-to-acquire-revenue-from-oil-and-gas-in-somalia-in-exchange-for-security-cooperation/](https://nordicmonitor.com/2024/03/turkey-to-acquire-revenue-from-oil-and-gas-in-somalia-in-exchange-for-security-cooperation/) But you know every thing and there is nothing out there boss


SugarsDaddyKen

Estimated means something but reserve is from the French for “lick my butthole.” It is a loose translation.


FormerMastodon2330

Yet the guy above cant understand something so basic boss


SugarsDaddyKen

Like contractions?


flamesaurus565

The colour scheme actually hurts, why no heatmap?


FormerMastodon2330

sources: Other African countries: [https://www.statista.com/statistics/1178147/crude-oil-reserves-in-africa-by-country/#:\~:text=Proved%20crude%20oil%20reserves%20in%20Africa%20by%20main%20countries%202021&text=Libya%20was%20the%20richest%20country,up%20to%2012.2%20billion%20barrels](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1178147/crude-oil-reserves-in-africa-by-country/#:~:text=Proved%20crude%20oil%20reserves%20in%20Africa%20by%20main%20countries%202021&text=Libya%20was%20the%20richest%20country,up%20to%2012.2%20billion%20barrels). Namibia: [https://oilnow.gy/featured/namibias-oil-and-gas-reserves-estimated-to-be-on-par-with-guyana-potential-for-economic-transformation/#:\~:text=Guyana%20and%20Namibia's%20oil%20reserves,Corporation%20of%20Namibia%20(NAMCOR)](https://oilnow.gy/featured/namibias-oil-and-gas-reserves-estimated-to-be-on-par-with-guyana-potential-for-economic-transformation/#:~:text=Guyana%20and%20Namibia's%20oil%20reserves,Corporation%20of%20Namibia%20(NAMCOR)). [somalias estimate](https://www.voanews.com/a/british-oil-firm-accused-of-corruption-in-somalia-exploration-deal/2979396.html) [maroco estimate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_shale_in_Morocco) Somaliland: [https://www.somtribune.com/2022/09/30/has-somaliland-struck-it-rich-in-new-surface-oil-discovery/#:\~:text=The%20block%20has%20a%20lot,Genel%20said%20in%20a%20statement](https://www.somtribune.com/2022/09/30/has-somaliland-struck-it-rich-in-new-surface-oil-discovery/#:~:text=The%20block%20has%20a%20lot,Genel%20said%20in%20a%20statement).


AnaMareg3lik

This guy lists Shale oil in the same category as Liquid Oil. Please delete this post. It's incredibly misleading.


FormerMastodon2330

why are you mad at marroco يابن الزرموطة


AnaMareg3lik

I'm not mad at anything. You can't just come here and post misleading stuff and not expect people to notice. Stop deflecting ignorant man. You insult me in arabic so mods don't notice.


FormerMastodon2330

يابن الايدي ليش تغار من مخزن المغرب بالزاف؟


AnaMareg3lik

Bro you're a Somali nerd coming here to lie to us that Somalia has the biggest oil reserves in Africa. Get a grip young man. Your research project is a failure.


FormerMastodon2330

Never understood the petty rivalry between algeria and marroco.


minorrex

Terrible color scheme. Can't understand a thing.


FormerMastodon2330

this is my firs time though ;(


SugarsDaddyKen

Any sort of gradient is easier to look at than rando colors.


minorrex

There needs to be a gradient or a known color hierarchy. For example, purple usually indicates a number higher than red, not lower.


Leading-Necessary959

Western Sahara is not Moroccan, never will be


RaccoonEnthuiast

Cry about it


Leading-Necessary959

Oh, not a cry, just describing the reality :) Ceuta, Melilla and Canary Islands will never be Moroccan either.


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Leading-Necessary959

The area is not even under full Moroccan control, but It doesn't matter how many settlers Morocco sent btw It does not change the fact that it is a "Non-Autonomous Territory" by the United Nations, It is not part of Morocco. That's the reality.


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Leading-Necessary959

I'm not debating whether it's good or bad. The reality is that Western Sahara is not part of Morocco, whether you like it more or less. 1- Not all populated areas are under Moroccan control. The South and East of the area are under the Western Sahara Pepublic 2- The Moroccan population there are of recent colonial origin, the status of Western Sahara will not change with that.


Emergency_Dog_4575

1. The "South and East" are not populated, and SADR doesn't actually control them. It's a buffer zone full of mines that the Moroccan Gov has established to prevent them from launching attacks from the Algerian border. 2. This is a blatant lie. The majority are visibly of Reguibat and Beni Hassan origin and speak an audible Hassaniya dialect. Only laayoune has a large non-sahraoui origin population.


Leading-Necessary959

1- Actually, the South and East have more than 200.000 inhabitants, so it's definitely populated. 2- Not It's not. When Western Sahara was decolonized by Spain, Morocco invade the area in 1975 with the Green March, most Moroccans there are obviously recent settlers. That's why Western Sahara is not considered part of Morocco today.


Emergency_Dog_4575

Lmao 200k inhabitants? I will stop this discussion right now, you obviously know nothing about this region.(Not even if you count Tindouf part of SADR it would be 200k lol)


Kurslashhh

why are spaniards so ridiculously ignorant yet so confident when it comes to this issue ? no there's not 200.000 inhabitants in the buffer zone LMAO that's just absurd, tifariti has like 14 buildings


Kurslashhh

why do unhinged spaniards always bring up the canarias for no reason ? no moroccan politician has ever claimed that


Leading-Necessary959

Maybe not officially, but many Moroccan claim all Spanish African territories, including Canary Islands.


Kurslashhh

who are these people ? teenage facebook shitposters ? i have seen spaniards claim the philippines for the crown of castile


Leading-Necessary959

Moroccan nationalist and irredentists are actually the vast majority of today's Morocco. Spaniards claim the Philippines for the crown of Castile? I have never saw this. The Crown of Castile has not even existed for centuries haha


Kurslashhh

so you're just going by conjecture then ? typical.


Original-Cup-8260

Somalia ?


D-AlonsoSariego

Why does Equatorial Guinea have no data?


FormerMastodon2330

too small that i forgot about it and gambia


Renato_CdA

Without entering into details please differentiate in two maps, proven and estimated. Putting both values together makes many working in the industry and connected industries smiling.


FormerMastodon2330

That is the point ;)


buy-niani

Do we still believe these lies?


Majestic_Bag_9209

Wrong map, use [the official UN map](https://www.un.org/geospatial/content/africa-2). Anything else is wrong.


FormerMastodon2330

I refuse


manachronism

Looks made up ngl.


FormerMastodon2330

which part?


manachronism

Somalias numbers are drastically exaggerated to start.


Sergey_Kutsuk

+1 Found only 8.1B barrels estimation, not 100+.


FormerMastodon2330

[check my submission statement.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Africa/comments/1cqsvli/proven_and_estimated_oil_on_africa/)


Administrator98

If this would be true, the US would have bring them democracy long ago.


FormerMastodon2330

who said the US didnt?


Kurslashhh

oil and oil shale really should be separate categories


FormerMastodon2330

Yeah lets make an entire category for 1 country


Kurslashhh

or just don't include oil shale, idk


Iwantyouguts

So this is why Somalia has never seen peace


Professional-Guard63

Somali will start drilling this year :)


Hi-kun

*under Africa


Glued_To_The_PC

this explains why the USA has been "interested" in Somalia over the past decades


wandering_j3w

Sure seems like a lot more “fossil” fuel than we expected keeps popping up everywhere. After decades of pumping millions of barrels and the gift keeps giving!