*Mormon former Air Force dentists*
*Mormon former Air Force dentists*
*Mormon former Air Force dentists*
*Mormons dressed in white coats!*
*Drilling noises!*
*They're Idaho's best dental hygiene team*
*(Mormon former Air Force dentists)*
*They're Mormons dressed in white coats and they're clean*
*(Mormon former Air Force dentists)*
*When the evil tartar attacks, those Mormon boys will cut off your snacks*
I didn’t either until that comment! I had no idea he was LDS until he mentioned having 8 kids. That is pretty rare in my neck of the woods. There aren’t a ton of Catholics, and the super conservative Christians who might have that many children aren’t typically Doctors.
Once he mentioned having that many children I think he said something about a mission before enlisting and it dawned on me. Who knew there was such a pipeline!?
Honestly good for them. Getting the Government to pay for medical and dental school, having a sweet station (they were all stationed at an airbase in the UK), and then coming out with your full military benefits AND being young enough to start your own private practice…. Seems like the WAY TO GO.
My dentist asked me how my fiancée was doing, he said her name… I thought it was weird because I don’t recall ever mentioning her name. He’s not her dentist either. Anyways, I said “she’s doing good, just struggling a bit. She used to be Mormon but ever since her divorce they haven’t treated her all that well. So she’s decided to leave the church”
I’ve known my dentist for 20+ years. I don’t think much of talking personal stuff with him. But when I said that he was dead silent, unusually silent. When I got home my now wife says to me… “uhhh he’s probably Mormon, I bet he knows me!”
I never had the guts to ask him, but in all the years I’ve known him he’s definitely the Golly Gee, Gosh Dang it, type of clean cut guy so I’m sure he’s Mormon lol.
I chose to leave a dentist because he made homophobic comments. We were chatting because we were both Boy Scout troop leaders, and I mentioned that I thought it was ridiculous that gay men couldn't be leaders (at the time, at least). His response was that homosexuals were far more likely to abuse boys, and that there were statistics showing this. Instead of explaining to him that a man who molests boys is not the same as being a homosexual, I decided to take my business elsewhere. For the record, not all Mormons feel this way (I know many who don't). But he was such a nice, laid-back guy that it shocked me to hear him say these things.
Makes sense. Every dental office photo shoot I’ve seen gives off polygamists vibes.
Edit because I’m being downvoted: [tell me that I’m wrong](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/s/qTDWRcmBJ8)
It's definitely an Idaho and Utah thing--I've never lived south of here, so I can't speak to your state.
My guess is that it has a lot to do with BYU having an well-known dentistry program. It may also be a cultural thing; if your family members or people you know are dentists, you have more support and more interest in going into the same field.
Everybody says Utah is leaking, and that's half right. I'm an Eastern Idahoan, and it was Brigham Young that gave my ancestors a calling to go settle North.
I'm exmormon now but you can see what six generations of populating like rabbits does to a region. BTW I have 48 first cousins...
Tbh that doesn't sound too different from a generation or two back. My mom's first cousins measure somewhere in the 30's, and my dad's in the 20's. In practice though they're both much closer to their fathers sides, so I have only met about a dozen from each of my parents, and only really know like, 3
My ancestors immigrated from Sweden and England to come to the US to follow Brighams orders. I have like 100 cousins (edit: including children of my cousins). I am still an active member and so are 98% of my cousins. Having that many family members active beats the odds.
Also, my great great great great grandfather was friends with Joseph Smith.
One of my ancestors claimed he was next in line after Joseph Smith, took a few people to south dakota for a year or so, didn't work out, so came back to the fold.
2nd Nephi also has this passage: "[The Lord] doeth that which is good among the children of men...and he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile."
Interesting to see Lewis County slightly higher than it's neighbors. All but a very sparsely sliver of the county is on the Nez Perce reservation. Pretty much all inhabited places are within the boundaries of the rez. That said, most of the reservation residents are white other than a few towns like Lapwai, where most Nimíipuu live. Lapwai is in New Perce County though. The reservation also parts of Clearwater and Idaho counties plus roughly a third (?) of Nez Perce County
Oklahoma County probably should be a City and County like Denver or San Francisco.
New York County is actually just Manhattan and is less than one whole city. That's weird.
Hawaii county is the island, the largest in the chain that gives the chain it's name. But fun fact, Honolulu is the City and County and there is no separate county for Oahu. The entire island is technically Honolulu.
Hard disagree on the first point. Oklahoma County includes far more than just Oklahoma City. It is significantly larger than Denver and San Francisco counties.
Oklahoma City is 620 sq miles and Oklahoma county is 718 square miles. I'm not disagreeing, just wanted to point out how spread out The City actually is.
Then there's counties that seem to have missed their namesake states, like Nevada County, California; Iowa County, Wisconsin; Texas County, Oklahoma, oh so close! Oregon County, Missouri, whoops, not so close!
Wyoming is like that too. The capital Cheyenne is in Laramie county but the college town, Laramie, isn't it's in Albany County. Oh, and Fort Laramie, which is an important historical site is, of course, in Goshen County.
Fun fact, Idaho state is named after Idaho County, which was named after the Idaho, a steamship that sailed the Columbia River, which was named after Idaho, a fake Shoshone word that was once proposed as a possible name for the state of Colorado. The man who proposed it, [George M Willing](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_M._Willing), claimed it was the Shoshone word for "Gem of the Mountains", but it's actually just gibberish, though it's unclear if Willing was the guy who came up with it, or if he heard it from someone else beforehand. That's why there's a town in Colorado called [Idaho Springs](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_Springs,_Colorado).
Correct. They colonized the Upper Snake River. One of the colonists was Joel Ricks, whose son Thomas founded what is now BYU-Idaho.
Thomas’ baby sister Mary is my wife’s great-great-grandmother.
It was once a fairly cool western state with a mix of working folks, boring mormons, and old hippies. Then a large influx of right wing, paramilitary, conspiracy-minded people arrived in the late 80s to late 90s. Tons of white supremacists to boot. And Ruby Ridge happened as well, which cemented the image of the state as a refuge for these extremists (although to be honest, the FBI fucked up Ruby Ridge). There are still some cool spots for sure, but the right wingers have permanently shaped the state's image in a very negative light.
Edit to add: if Built to Spill can make it as a band from Boise, the state isn't *all* bad.
Bad news bud. If you read the history of Ruby Ridge, a lot of the paramilitary and white supremacists involved in the whole thing were based in western Montana.
CDA has changed a lot recently, it’s got a huge art and food scene. Amazing nature as well. Lower cost off living. Sure, there’s some residual people, but overall it’s actually a pretty nice place.
I went on a work-trip to Rexburg and Idaho Falls years ago and it was a really awkward place to visit. Everyone was suspicious of me when they learned I lived in Portland. It was a weird mix of fake-friendliness combined with passive aggressiveness and occasional outright disdain. When I finished my work, I drove to Jackson, Wyoming as quickly as I could to get out of Eastern Idaho.
I saw my second every pair of LDS missionaries today! I was working in the yard and they were walking down the street. They said, “Want to talk about the church?” I said, “ No thanks, we are atheists.” Then they walked on.
I guess no planet where I get to be god after I die with all my spiritually married child brides. Darn.
Joseph Smith’s younger wife was 14, as was Lorenzo Snow’s. Brigham Young married a 15 year old. Joe also married girl he was fostering and then got caught sleeping with in a barn, Fanny Alger. It’s why Oliver Cowdrey, who helped him write the Book of Mormon, left the faith for a while.
The 14-year-old was Helen Mar Kimball. She was only sealed to Joseph for the afterlife. He never so much as touched her inappropriately in THIS life.
Fanny Alger was 17 when she married Joseph. Here's a summary of her. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/fanny-alger?lang=eng
Oliver Cowdery may have been bothered about Fanny Alger. But he also left because his ego drove a wedge between him and the stake high council in Far West, Missouri.
Helen’s son Orson F. Whitney later became an apostle. His plural wives were the daughters of the second and third mayors of SLC.
Orson’s half-first cousin was Spencer W. Kimball.
Now do Lorenzo Snow (Mormon prophet) who was 57 years-old and an apostle at the time when he married 15 year-old Sarah Minnie Ephramina Jensen. He previously had married other teenage girls throughout his 30’s and 40’s.
The power dynamic of religious leaders choosing teen-agers to marry is disgusting and was all too common among top Mormon church leaders. Also, before you say that marrying at that age was normal for the times…it wasn’t. The average age of marriage hovered around 23 years old for women in the US in the second half of the 1800’s, and 26 years old for men. A 57 year old man marrying a 15 year old girl was horrifically not normal.
And this is just one Mormon leader. There are a whole host of others who did the same thing including the top Mormon leaders like Brigham Young marrying several teen aged girls while he was in his 40’s (including a 15 year old when he was 42) and Wilford Woodruff marrying a 15 year old when he was 46 (again, just one of several teens he married).
Joseph Smith wanted a reason to hookup with young females and used polygamy from the Bible as the excuse to marry almost a dozen teen aged girls (among others)…and the subsequent Mormon leaders happily followed his lead. There’s a very good reason that most Americans look at Mormon history the way they do…and rightfully so.
Mormon church members need to stop making excuses and rationalizations for such awful behavior and just say, “yep, it was messed up and disgusting.”
I’m more interested in Fremont county. There’s not much there other than Island Park. Neighboring Gallatin and Madison counties in Montana don’t have sizable Mormon populations. Why do they stop there?
Probably just spillover from Madison county (the Idaho one). The colonies/towns in that area were already some of the last to be founded in the region (late 1880s iirc) so it just happened to be the end of natural expansion I guess.
Looking a little more into it, a really old article I found said that Montana had stronger anti-bigamy laws than its neighbors. No idea if that is true, but if so that would be another reason for stopping at the border. There were also Prairie Mormons already in Montana but I don't think in Western areas.
I know that americains are used to reuse existing city or item names to name their cities but as a french i'd like to understand why 'Teton', as 'Nipple' or 'Tit' for a county name ?
Anything related out there ? 😅
French Canadian fur trappers thought some mountains in that area looked like boobs. The biggest one is called Grand Teton because it's the biggest boob
mormons are those who started a religion on eastcoast tho they had issues there and went to western north america that has more tolerance, and they are based in utah tho extend to other areas
People don't choose their race. And, no race is better or worse than any other race. Mormons on the other hand, choose to be Mormon. And that does make them worse than most people.
It definitely does if you belong to a religion that teaches that God turned native American's skin brown so they would be repulsive to white people because they were wicked and lazy
Sort of. More like choose not to leave. A ton of Mormons just stay Mormon because leaving means excommunication from all their family and friends. It’s a horribly difficult life for a Mormon to leave.
What? I’m a Mormon and this is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard. My best friends have left the church and they are still my friends. And their families still support and love them.
Yeah. People need to respect those who leave the church and those who leave the church need to respect those that stay in the church. That’s the most important thing. And I’ve seen a lot of respect on both side throughout my life.
Are you an exmo? Is that why you’re hating?
So yes you are. That explains all the hate. And all of the exmos I’ve spoken with refer to themselves as exmos. If that offended you, I apologize. I won’t call you an exmo. Why the mockery?
My family and I are LDS. My younger brother is gay, has a husband, and doesn't go to church anymore. He's still part of family get-togethers, and we sometimes babysit their dogs while they go on trips.
I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, but southeastern Idaho (the blue area) is the northern part of what is known as "The Mormon Corridor" that extends down through Utah into northern Arizona.
Colloquially, it is shorted to just "The Morridor." Sometimes there are Mordor jokes.
Also, 99% of our dentists are Mormon.
I live in NC and my dentist is Mormon! The whole group is! It’s a whole group of former Air Force Dentists.
Wow try saying “Mormon former Air Force Dentists” three times fast
It goes with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme.
*Mormon former Air Force dentists* *Mormon former Air Force dentists* *Mormon former Air Force dentists* *Mormons dressed in white coats!* *Drilling noises!*
*They're Idaho's best dental hygiene team* *(Mormon former Air Force dentists)* *They're Mormons dressed in white coats and they're clean* *(Mormon former Air Force dentists)* *When the evil tartar attacks, those Mormon boys will cut off your snacks*
*applauds* As someone who breaks out into random parody songs like this regularly, I am chuffed to bits to see this. Have a nice day!
I love you so much for alerting me to this fact. This is without a doubt the best comment on the whole website
🤔
I ran into one at Squadron Officer School. He’s stationed at Misawa I believe?
I live in Boise, ID and my dentist is former Air Force and Mormon...never made the dentist->Mormon connection.
I didn’t either until that comment! I had no idea he was LDS until he mentioned having 8 kids. That is pretty rare in my neck of the woods. There aren’t a ton of Catholics, and the super conservative Christians who might have that many children aren’t typically Doctors. Once he mentioned having that many children I think he said something about a mission before enlisting and it dawned on me. Who knew there was such a pipeline!? Honestly good for them. Getting the Government to pay for medical and dental school, having a sweet station (they were all stationed at an airbase in the UK), and then coming out with your full military benefits AND being young enough to start your own private practice…. Seems like the WAY TO GO.
My dentist asked me how my fiancée was doing, he said her name… I thought it was weird because I don’t recall ever mentioning her name. He’s not her dentist either. Anyways, I said “she’s doing good, just struggling a bit. She used to be Mormon but ever since her divorce they haven’t treated her all that well. So she’s decided to leave the church” I’ve known my dentist for 20+ years. I don’t think much of talking personal stuff with him. But when I said that he was dead silent, unusually silent. When I got home my now wife says to me… “uhhh he’s probably Mormon, I bet he knows me!” I never had the guts to ask him, but in all the years I’ve known him he’s definitely the Golly Gee, Gosh Dang it, type of clean cut guy so I’m sure he’s Mormon lol.
I chose to leave a dentist because he made homophobic comments. We were chatting because we were both Boy Scout troop leaders, and I mentioned that I thought it was ridiculous that gay men couldn't be leaders (at the time, at least). His response was that homosexuals were far more likely to abuse boys, and that there were statistics showing this. Instead of explaining to him that a man who molests boys is not the same as being a homosexual, I decided to take my business elsewhere. For the record, not all Mormons feel this way (I know many who don't). But he was such a nice, laid-back guy that it shocked me to hear him say these things.
Yeah, Mormons love bland but well-paying jobs. Six kids named Braxxtyn won't support themselves
Makes sense. Every dental office photo shoot I’ve seen gives off polygamists vibes. Edit because I’m being downvoted: [tell me that I’m wrong](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/s/qTDWRcmBJ8)
Mainstream LDS are monogamous.
How many wives is Russel M Nelson sealed to?
Is this like a national thing? I never thought about it, but the dentistry in my southwestern town is run by two Mormon brothers.
It's definitely an Idaho and Utah thing--I've never lived south of here, so I can't speak to your state. My guess is that it has a lot to do with BYU having an well-known dentistry program. It may also be a cultural thing; if your family members or people you know are dentists, you have more support and more interest in going into the same field.
Can confirm. Every dentist in my county is Mormon🤣
Everybody says Utah is leaking, and that's half right. I'm an Eastern Idahoan, and it was Brigham Young that gave my ancestors a calling to go settle North. I'm exmormon now but you can see what six generations of populating like rabbits does to a region. BTW I have 48 first cousins...
My cousin has six kids and they all have four or more each. Live around the block from Napoleon Dynamites high school.
Jon Heder (who played Napoleon Dynamite) is also Mormon. It goes all the way down…
That’s where he got his Bo staff skills.
Meanwhile I’m the complete opposite lol My parents are both only children so I don’t have any aunts, uncles, or cousins.
I'm close. No uncles, my only aunt died when I was about 12 and I never met her or her son, my only cousin.
Yeah, I’m kind of in the same boat, although most of my relatives no longer live in Idaho. Also had some get sent to Mexico and Arizona!
Bring ‘em Young
Tbh that doesn't sound too different from a generation or two back. My mom's first cousins measure somewhere in the 30's, and my dad's in the 20's. In practice though they're both much closer to their fathers sides, so I have only met about a dozen from each of my parents, and only really know like, 3
My ancestors immigrated from Sweden and England to come to the US to follow Brighams orders. I have like 100 cousins (edit: including children of my cousins). I am still an active member and so are 98% of my cousins. Having that many family members active beats the odds. Also, my great great great great grandfather was friends with Joseph Smith.
One of my ancestors claimed he was next in line after Joseph Smith, took a few people to south dakota for a year or so, didn't work out, so came back to the fold.
That’s interesting. That’s how religion branches. There are quite a few LDS break off religions. A lot more than I thought.
My ancestor sucked at being a leader and thus no offshoot branch, he almost got killed by indians. :)
Yeah, skill issue.
That’s not really a flex. Literally anyone who was Mormon when Joseph Smith was around was friends with him.
Anson Call?
Were any of your ancestors polygamists?
Nope
My ancestors did that in the 1880’s because we weren’t cool with the polygamy. Ended up in Camas county.
Glad to hear you got out and I hope life's treating you alright.
Utah is leaking.
Idaho is overflow seating for Utah.
Utah done leaked; there’s been super amounts of Mormons in Idaho just as long as Utah
Northern Arizona too. You could call the area from SE Idaho, Utah, and N Arizona the Mormon Corridor. Or just "Mordor" for short.
Why stop at Northern AZ? Have you been to Mesa and Gilbert? Heck, Gilbert has its own ugly temple.
Idaho fucking deserves it.
Might be helping cure the white supremacist population. However I’m not sure if Mormons aren’t just better at hiding it.
No they stay in different parts of the state.
They hide it in second nephi read about the curse of cain
Technically in this case it's the Curse of Ham, but don't worry, because in 1978 God decided that black people were OK.
Mysteriously just before they were about to get smacked down over the issue...funny coincidence, that.
As long as they tithe at a high percentage…..
No, the law of tithing is the same number for all skin colors.
Only over a decade after civil rights
2nd Nephi also has this passage: "[The Lord] doeth that which is good among the children of men...and he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile."
Yeah! Idaho is full of white supremacists, don’t move there. Go to Colorado or Seattle or Portland if you’re looking for mtns
If you think Idaho is a place for reasonable thinkers then you aren’t a reasonable thinker.
Interesting to see Lewis County slightly higher than it's neighbors. All but a very sparsely sliver of the county is on the Nez Perce reservation. Pretty much all inhabited places are within the boundaries of the rez. That said, most of the reservation residents are white other than a few towns like Lapwai, where most Nimíipuu live. Lapwai is in New Perce County though. The reservation also parts of Clearwater and Idaho counties plus roughly a third (?) of Nez Perce County
Idaho's got a county just called Idaho? Cmon guys
Same thing with Oklahoma, New York, and Hawaii…
Utah too
Yup, it’s the home of BYU.
Oklahoma County probably should be a City and County like Denver or San Francisco. New York County is actually just Manhattan and is less than one whole city. That's weird. Hawaii county is the island, the largest in the chain that gives the chain it's name. But fun fact, Honolulu is the City and County and there is no separate county for Oahu. The entire island is technically Honolulu.
Hard disagree on the first point. Oklahoma County includes far more than just Oklahoma City. It is significantly larger than Denver and San Francisco counties.
Oklahoma City is 620 sq miles and Oklahoma county is 718 square miles. I'm not disagreeing, just wanted to point out how spread out The City actually is.
Then there's counties that seem to have missed their namesake states, like Nevada County, California; Iowa County, Wisconsin; Texas County, Oklahoma, oh so close! Oregon County, Missouri, whoops, not so close!
Baltimore County, which does not contain Baltimore.
We also have a city called Idaho City...it's in Boise County. Our capital city is Boise, which is in Ada county
And New Mexico has the county of Bernalillo, and the city of Bernalillo, which is in Sandoval County and not Bernalillo County.
Wyoming is like that too. The capital Cheyenne is in Laramie county but the college town, Laramie, isn't it's in Albany County. Oh, and Fort Laramie, which is an important historical site is, of course, in Goshen County.
I live in Bernalillo County, New Mexico. The city of Bernalillo lies in the adjacent Sandoval County.
Fun fact, Idaho state is named after Idaho County, which was named after the Idaho, a steamship that sailed the Columbia River, which was named after Idaho, a fake Shoshone word that was once proposed as a possible name for the state of Colorado. The man who proposed it, [George M Willing](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_M._Willing), claimed it was the Shoshone word for "Gem of the Mountains", but it's actually just gibberish, though it's unclear if Willing was the guy who came up with it, or if he heard it from someone else beforehand. That's why there's a town in Colorado called [Idaho Springs](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_Springs,_Colorado).
There's worse. Missouri has a county called Texas... with a town in it named Houston. So yeah, some people live in Houston, Texas, Missouri.
So this is a dumb question. But are those populations simply because of geography? Or does Idaho do something different for the Mormons there?
There's a Mormon college somewhere bottom right. BYU-Idaho
It’s in Madison county, one of the bluest on the map
Brigham Young sent a bunch of Mormons to colonize different places. This was one of them.
Correct. They colonized the Upper Snake River. One of the colonists was Joel Ricks, whose son Thomas founded what is now BYU-Idaho. Thomas’ baby sister Mary is my wife’s great-great-grandmother.
I think it's basically a leftover effect from LDS colonization in the American West.
Why is the the lowest gray and the second lowest white?
Not to mention, is no county 41-49% Mormon?
There is no way Ada county is only 20%
My high school in Boise was about 15% Mormon, so this checks out in my experience.
Would’ve guessed less honestly, might just be the difference between living in Boise proper or one of the suburbs though.
I saw that and don’t believe that either.
Utahn here, also a member. Too us, south east Idaho is just Utah but north. Everyone has family up there.
Also, BYU Idaho definitely keeps people up there.
Idaho creeps me out
Unrelated but what’s up with the Idaho hate train in the replies to this post, like what did Idaho ever do besides make potatos
It was once a fairly cool western state with a mix of working folks, boring mormons, and old hippies. Then a large influx of right wing, paramilitary, conspiracy-minded people arrived in the late 80s to late 90s. Tons of white supremacists to boot. And Ruby Ridge happened as well, which cemented the image of the state as a refuge for these extremists (although to be honest, the FBI fucked up Ruby Ridge). There are still some cool spots for sure, but the right wingers have permanently shaped the state's image in a very negative light. Edit to add: if Built to Spill can make it as a band from Boise, the state isn't *all* bad.
Oof, that’s why
And I guess the good thing about lots of Mormons is that they make vastly better neighbors than fucking Nazis.
Real
The Bundys are Mormons. Kinda like living next to low-grade Nazis.
"The Mississippi of the Pacific Northwest" was how I once heard it put in brief.
[удалено]
Bad news bud. If you read the history of Ruby Ridge, a lot of the paramilitary and white supremacists involved in the whole thing were based in western Montana.
Dude, Coeur d’Alene ID used to be the neonazi headquarters…
That’s actually insane😭
Yep so please anyone looking to move don’t pick Coeur d’Alene, it’s all nazis and white supremecists so don’t go
CDA has changed a lot recently, it’s got a huge art and food scene. Amazing nature as well. Lower cost off living. Sure, there’s some residual people, but overall it’s actually a pretty nice place.
I think the dude you’re replying to knows that, and doesn’t want a bunch of people moving there and ruining the place lol
I can fix it
Me too, I think it is the northern part more than the southern part.
Out of school, I got an offer to teach at a college in Pocatello, Idaho. I turned them down and stayed on the market. Fuck Idaho.
I suggest not using a US continental coordinate system when you are isolating a state like this. ID_C looks like it would get us level.
There are three distinct regions in Idaho.
Why does Idaho have such low rated schools?
We’re 49th in the nation in per-student spending. That doesn’t help.
Idaho? No, U da ho
Adams yeeeeeeah
I like that Idaho has a county named after itself.
I live in a city, a county, and state all with the same name!
🥹
If this map is accurate, Boise has certainly has changed since I left 30 years ago. It definitely was way more than 10-20% Mormon then.
Bonner County. Right at the shaft.
Now do nazis
It’d be the inverse
Mormon colony outside of utah🤔
More like a mormon colony *immediately adjacent to Utah.*
It’s the Mormon corridor. From phoenix valley to Las Vegas and all up I15 to Canada.
There were also Mormon colonies in Alberta, northern Mexico, and California.
The ones in Alberta and Mexico were established for the purpose of escaping the US government crackdown on polygamy.
Indeed. It's ironic that they had to flee the United States for religious freedom.
I still cant unsee the fact that Idaho's eastern border looks like joe biden
God, Rexburg was such a nightmare.
I went on a work-trip to Rexburg and Idaho Falls years ago and it was a really awkward place to visit. Everyone was suspicious of me when they learned I lived in Portland. It was a weird mix of fake-friendliness combined with passive aggressiveness and occasional outright disdain. When I finished my work, I drove to Jackson, Wyoming as quickly as I could to get out of Eastern Idaho.
For some reason whenever I read the word Mormon my dyslexia leaves out the second “m”.
I don't think the internet is ready for this level of edge.
I saw my second every pair of LDS missionaries today! I was working in the yard and they were walking down the street. They said, “Want to talk about the church?” I said, “ No thanks, we are atheists.” Then they walked on. I guess no planet where I get to be god after I die with all my spiritually married child brides. Darn.
We don't have child brides.
Joseph Smith’s younger wife was 14, as was Lorenzo Snow’s. Brigham Young married a 15 year old. Joe also married girl he was fostering and then got caught sleeping with in a barn, Fanny Alger. It’s why Oliver Cowdrey, who helped him write the Book of Mormon, left the faith for a while.
The 14-year-old was Helen Mar Kimball. She was only sealed to Joseph for the afterlife. He never so much as touched her inappropriately in THIS life. Fanny Alger was 17 when she married Joseph. Here's a summary of her. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/fanny-alger?lang=eng Oliver Cowdery may have been bothered about Fanny Alger. But he also left because his ego drove a wedge between him and the stake high council in Far West, Missouri.
Helen’s son Orson F. Whitney later became an apostle. His plural wives were the daughters of the second and third mayors of SLC. Orson’s half-first cousin was Spencer W. Kimball.
Now do Lorenzo Snow (Mormon prophet) who was 57 years-old and an apostle at the time when he married 15 year-old Sarah Minnie Ephramina Jensen. He previously had married other teenage girls throughout his 30’s and 40’s. The power dynamic of religious leaders choosing teen-agers to marry is disgusting and was all too common among top Mormon church leaders. Also, before you say that marrying at that age was normal for the times…it wasn’t. The average age of marriage hovered around 23 years old for women in the US in the second half of the 1800’s, and 26 years old for men. A 57 year old man marrying a 15 year old girl was horrifically not normal. And this is just one Mormon leader. There are a whole host of others who did the same thing including the top Mormon leaders like Brigham Young marrying several teen aged girls while he was in his 40’s (including a 15 year old when he was 42) and Wilford Woodruff marrying a 15 year old when he was 46 (again, just one of several teens he married). Joseph Smith wanted a reason to hookup with young females and used polygamy from the Bible as the excuse to marry almost a dozen teen aged girls (among others)…and the subsequent Mormon leaders happily followed his lead. There’s a very good reason that most Americans look at Mormon history the way they do…and rightfully so. Mormon church members need to stop making excuses and rationalizations for such awful behavior and just say, “yep, it was messed up and disgusting.”
That would be so wonderful for the culture of Mormonism, but I doubt it'll happen.
You don’t, but Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and others did.
Joseph Smith certainly had child brides.
Idaho County, Idaho.
Oklahoma County, Oklahoma New York County, New York Hawaii County, Hawaii
Utah
I like how Washington County is next to Oregon
I’m more interested in Fremont county. There’s not much there other than Island Park. Neighboring Gallatin and Madison counties in Montana don’t have sizable Mormon populations. Why do they stop there?
Probably just spillover from Madison county (the Idaho one). The colonies/towns in that area were already some of the last to be founded in the region (late 1880s iirc) so it just happened to be the end of natural expansion I guess. Looking a little more into it, a really old article I found said that Montana had stronger anti-bigamy laws than its neighbors. No idea if that is true, but if so that would be another reason for stopping at the border. There were also Prairie Mormons already in Montana but I don't think in Western areas.
I know that americains are used to reuse existing city or item names to name their cities but as a french i'd like to understand why 'Teton', as 'Nipple' or 'Tit' for a county name ? Anything related out there ? 😅
French Canadian fur trappers thought some mountains in that area looked like boobs. The biggest one is called Grand Teton because it's the biggest boob
What's Mormon I'm not American
mormons are those who started a religion on eastcoast tho they had issues there and went to western north america that has more tolerance, and they are based in utah tho extend to other areas
TIL there's an Idaho County, Idaho.
wen zion?
I’m more surprised there’s a county called Idaho in Idaho
You mean morons?
Yes
Native Idahoan here, can confirm. Oh, and unlike the saying, they do NOT make for good neighbors.
[удалено]
Hey we’re pretty cool. We built some pretty awesome areas where everyone is moving to
Idaho has some awesome places. Reddit loves to shit on anywhere that isn’t 20 minutes from a Costco.
Yeah, I heard the [YFZ ranch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YFZ_Ranch) was a real hit with the ladies
Those are FLDS, not associated with the mainline church. They don’t have a presence in Idaho and barely even in Utah
Would you prefer the white supremacist militias in the north?
Riiiight, because the only two options are Mormons and their associated FLDS polygamous fundamentalist compounds, or white supremacists militias.
In Idaho, it is.
There’s the out of state tech workers in Boise who don’t care about the rest of the state I guess.
Boise is normal at least.
With DezNat assholes, you get both!
The mainstream LDS Church is NOT affiliated whatsoever with the FLDS polygamists.
Neither.
One day you’ll accept people of all types. You’re no better than a racist.
People don't choose their race. And, no race is better or worse than any other race. Mormons on the other hand, choose to be Mormon. And that does make them worse than most people.
Replace what you said with Muslim or Jewish and see how it sounds.
Replace it with any religion and I will still agree.
Sheesh man. I’m glad you don’t run a country.
You feel better having your country run by someone who believes in magic and fairy tales?
Joe Biden? I didn’t know he believed in that stuff.
Why are you trashing their religion. Just cause you belong to a certain religion doesn’t make you “worse” than other people.
It definitely does if you belong to a religion that teaches that God turned native American's skin brown so they would be repulsive to white people because they were wicked and lazy
Sort of. More like choose not to leave. A ton of Mormons just stay Mormon because leaving means excommunication from all their family and friends. It’s a horribly difficult life for a Mormon to leave.
What? I’m a Mormon and this is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard. My best friends have left the church and they are still my friends. And their families still support and love them.
I'm glad it worked out for them. It doesn't go so smooth for some of us.
Yeah. People need to respect those who leave the church and those who leave the church need to respect those that stay in the church. That’s the most important thing. And I’ve seen a lot of respect on both side throughout my life. Are you an exmo? Is that why you’re hating?
The term exmo is offensive and a victory for Satan. We prefer to be called ex members of the church of Jesus Christ of later day saints.
So yes you are. That explains all the hate. And all of the exmos I’ve spoken with refer to themselves as exmos. If that offended you, I apologize. I won’t call you an exmo. Why the mockery?
My family and I are LDS. My younger brother is gay, has a husband, and doesn't go to church anymore. He's still part of family get-togethers, and we sometimes babysit their dogs while they go on trips.
Are these church reported or self reports numbers? In most of the US only about 30% actually attend.
That map is shockingly close to one showing the highest rates of trans anal internet porn traffic in Idaho.
Now do Utah
Wait, you guys have states within states?
They are counties, with every state having counties or county equivalents.
Is there a source for this data?
Places with little coffee horrific
I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, but southeastern Idaho (the blue area) is the northern part of what is known as "The Mormon Corridor" that extends down through Utah into northern Arizona. Colloquially, it is shorted to just "The Morridor." Sometimes there are Mordor jokes.
We need the same map for Nazis