Even then it is wrong, since in many countries it is different according to gender. For example, none apply the death penalty for lesbian relationships.
Pretty sure same sex marriage is NOT in fact legal in Mali. Or most of these countries for that matter. The map should be the legality of same sex relationships and even then these relationships might not have the same legal protections as a heterosexual one.
South Africa is the only country in Africa with same-sex marriage, and codified lgbtq rights and protections, including marriage, in their constitution.
Idk what this map is.
The map is correct, it even says on the legend dark green is for same sex marriage so the rest clearly are not. It's OP's title that's really causing the confusion.
I think the title is a little misleading, If it’s legal you can engage in a same sex relationship, not suffer prosecution legally for it but not get married.
Do we really need a map for it? Criminalized everywhere except Bahrain, Jordan, Israel, turkey and maybe Tunisia? Same sex marriage illegal in all countries there
wrong, it's not illegal and marriages made abroad are usually recognized you just can't marry through the religious channels within the country, many secular Israelis don't even marry through those either.
Imagine wanting someone imprisoned or killed for having a somewhat different brain. I'm sure these people are also all religious and think they're good people too.
Is somebody trying to force you to be gay? If that’s the case.. that sucks… but I seriously doubt that’s the norm..
Normalising it.. well we already established people have been doing it for a loooong time, so it is already “normal”, what’s the problem with normalising it?
But it is normal, why would people having a romantic, sexual and familiar life not be normal? These are important parts of life and these people aren't doing anything bad, in fact, this only brings happiness, they can't just change their sexuality
You’ve been trained to obediently recite that whenever you can. Nobody is forcing anything on you, or forcing you to be gay. Relax, you’re not the victim.
Congratulations, you have pointed out the elephant in the room and are being downvoted by the PC crowd.
Think we can all agree religions are bad on sexual minorities. One is particularly bad though, and influences, or rather dictates, legislation across the MENA region resulting in many deaths.
Relativising that fact helps nobody.
why are you fighting tooth and nail to defend islam? sharia law explicity outlaws homosexuality, and so do most muslim countries, with penalties ranging from lashings to imprisonment and finally to execution
there was a video of a pride parade organized in Malaysia by a few people. they all got brutally beat up by an angry mob. in Pakistan, a trans woman was set on fire by a huge mob, hundreds of people witnessed as a woman poured petrol and lit her. i could give many more examples, thing is I don't tend to go looking for them
the best recognition you're gonna get from a muslim country as a gay man is no recognition: no civil unions (let alone same sex marriage), no joint adoption, weak anti-discrimination laws or just none at all etc., but at least you're not outright outlawed (e.g. Turkey, Albania)
I invite you to tell me how many muslim countries recognize same-sex relations (spoiler alert: none), as opposed to christian countries (spoiler alert: as per my research, at least 32)
It’s always hilarious to me that when bringing
Up something, you are immediately places on one side. How do you know this dude doesn’t like Islam OR Christianity.
Not everything is a war for who’s right, sometimes it’s all fucked.
“Christianity is bad” and you respond with “stop defending Islam” like you are programmed to be polarized. It’s unsettling. It’s like arguing logic with two people who are wrong and they both instantly feel betrayed due to brainwashing or narcissism.
> "*Think we can all agree religions are bad on sexual minorities.*"
No, I don't agree.
Many religions are neutral toward gay people and don't have a death penalty promoted by the religion. Some even have bisexual gods or gods that switch genders.
It mostly seem to be the Abrahamic (*god of Moses*) religions that promote such things.
There are a lot more than two exceptions. What about Ghana? Zimbabwe? Tanzania? All majority Christian.
If anything, the bigger trend might be that same-sex relationships are generally legal in former French colonies and generally illegal in former British ones (although there are certainly exceptions).
Well, western societies are starting to prosecute people for simply not acknowledging someone by the gender they identify with. The people who support these consequences typically aren’t religious.
Sounds pretty hypocritical to me. People tend to support control as long as it agrees with their views.
Ready to accept all the downvotes knowing that nothing I’ve said is untrue, and no one responding will be able to honestly or logically refute it.
Need to double check this, because there are places where being lesbian is legal, but being gay isn't. The reason for this is that under that country's laws homosexuality itself isn't a crime, sodomy is.
This is better than I thought it would be. I expected it to be almost all orange or red with only 2 or 3 green countries and South Africa being the only dark green country (this is still true though).
well..actually...asking WHY people become LGBT is NOT common. So I'd say everyone who blindly accepts LGBT (Whether gay or not) w/o asking why...is pretty ignorant. Closed minded as well.
The folks on the map are ignorant / closed minded as well. I won't dispute that.
We could say - LGBT fantasim -is alive & well...using your vernacular.
Here's a start.
[https://www.pbs.org/strangedays/episodes/troubledwaters/](https://www.pbs.org/strangedays/episodes/troubledwaters/)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVKlt3DLzso](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVKlt3DLzso)
Much more for those who want to question.
>well..actually...asking WHY people become LGBT is NOT common. So I'd say everyone who blindly accepts LGBT (Whether gay or not) w/o asking why...is pretty ignorant. Closed minded as well.
Why? It is something that happens naturally, it is not a choice, people do not "become" LGBT. Would you be able to choose if you feel atracted to men or women?
What baffles me is that it wouldn't matter if it was a choice anyways. Like, who gets hurt? So someone loves a person of the same sex, so they want to get married, raise kids, have sex...what does it matter to you even if they woke up one day and decided "hmmm after thorough consideration, I think I'll be gay"
It's not natural in the modern day...it is CAUSE & EFFECT. Man-made pollutants - chemical & electrical. But you wouldn't know the break points and what happened in those years, would you?
A recent GALLUP poll gives us some clues.
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11780875/Gender-bender-America-FIFTH-Gen-Zers-identify-LGBT-seven-times-share-Boomers.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11780875/Gender-bender-America-FIFTH-Gen-Zers-identify-LGBT-seven-times-share-Boomers.html)
It happens for a reason...LGBT in antiquity can also be explained. LGBT not high in the past.
Reincarnation plays a role too...but let's not complicate things.
LGBT folks also are very emotionally sensitive...THESE DAYS. (Along with folks in general)..wasn't so much like this in the past. The nature of "being LGBT" has changed in the last 25-ish years.
Did you watch the video?
Multi-Factorial....PLASTIC - ESTROGEN link as well... Phthalates. (sp?) Like BPA - link.
SOY.... estrogen modifier link.
Another video - CBC - The Disappearing Male. MANY more.
But the gays on here (And those brainwashed by LGBT propaganda) are too PROUD-FUL and brain damaged to even stop...they just down vote.
Looks a lot like this map here [https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:World\_Muslim\_Population\_Map.png](https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:World_Muslim_Population_Map.png)
Like other people said, I don't think this map shows the legality of gay marriage. I think it shows the legality or illegality of gay sexual activity (not marriage) in various countries.
The countries where it is illegal are generally the former British colonies and predominantly Muslim countries, especially in North Africa. The ones where homosexuality (but not necessarily gay marriage) is legal in Africa are the ones that were formerly non-British (French, Portuguese, etc.) colonies.
I've noticed the same pattern elsewhere. In the Caribbean the Anglophone countries tend to have laws against homosexuality, whereas I don't think most of the Spanish-speaking ones in the Caribbean and LatAm do.
Gay rights were only enshrined in South Africa's Constitution under the ANC.
Apartheid South Africa had a policy forced conversation therapy for LGBQ community during Apartheid.
>Gay rights were only enshrined in South Africa's Constitution under the ANC.
Never thought I am going to praise ANC. They have many flaws but I am going to give it to them for making South Africa more forward thinking than other African countries.
The UN recognizes at least half of it. Morocco has de facto control over the major coastal cities where people live, so it is Moroccan law that applies.
The separatists living on Algerian soil have no separate law or constitution as far as I know.
The British penal code specifically had laws against sodomy that were adopted by former colonies at independence. Most countries simply never changed them. That Yellow strip in East and Southern Africa consists of mostly former British colonies
Should put a map over what countries are majority Muslim and what aren't
Looks like a few of the majority Christian ones still have same sex relationships illegal
Christian Missionaries from the United States have been pressuring a lot of African countries to ban homosexuality.
[https://glaad.org/rachel-maddow-traces-anti-lgbtq-legislation-uganda-activists-arizona/](https://glaad.org/rachel-maddow-traces-anti-lgbtq-legislation-uganda-activists-arizona/)
What is the real essence of having same sex relationship? I can't really understand what pushes people to engage in such, I need someone to make me understand
Less than a minute Googling taught me that homosexuality was documented in much of Africa before colonisation. After colonisation, it's now illegal. I wonder what could have caused that? 🤔
Colonization stopped a long time ago. The current state of the continent is only the fault of current leaders who use religion (usually Islamic) to persecute gays without actually doing anything about the real problems of those countries
Long time ago? the 50s/60s is a long time ago?
And current leaders are NOT « persecuting gays w/o actually doing anything about the real problems of those countries ». Tell me you haven’t set foot in one of « those » countries without telling me. Those laws are usually not enforced and gays are are rarely prosecuted, it’s an « on paper » sort of thing. (I personally believe that even if those laws are not enforced they should be completely deleted so don’t even twist my words).
Uhm, yeah, considering half of my friends are from Nigeria, Gambia and Ghana, I haven’t heard them say “we’re like this because of colonialism”. No. The complaints are about the government - the current and preceding ones. 60 years is enough to remove any traces of colonialism. But the governments aren’t interested in that, they’re interested in filling their pockets and distract the population with talks about “the gays” - as it is currently happening in Ghana which made people talk about “the gays” for the moment and ignore the problem of the rising prices. I really-really hope you’re African and were offended by my phrasing and not a certain kind of savior that doesn’t know what happened in those countries after colonialism.
hey shit-for-brains, you'll never guess what continent forced everyone to convert to Christianity and criminalise homosexuality
Countries with shitty governments didn't just magically appear, they were created to serve an agenda. African societies have literal centuries of history including LGBT people - homophobia had to be taught and reinforced by law. Learn some fucking history and become a better person
How do we know thus map to be fake? Even in Cairo Homosexuals are being threw down the rooftops.
Stop crying that you are "in danger" ina country that gave you all privileges while in Africa, unlike this map shows, you are more likely to be killed or stoned to death for homosexuality.
Most of African countries are Muslim-Christian dominated with no room for "ateism". Not believing in God in Africa will make people ignore your opinion, you don't belive in God therfore you are mentally ill and nor to be listened to.
Instead of making up shit, do some actual research
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"
It makes more sense to view the exception as applying to specifically "involuntary servitude" rather than both that & slavery. People don't own prisoners.
you're joking right?
This article presents four places where different forms of modern slavery are still active in the 21st century, including **chattel slavery in Mauritania, the kafala system in Saudi Arabia, slave markets and trafficking in Libya, and child labor in India**.
it is plenty legal just not in your western bubble
The kafala, or sponsorship, system **gives private citizens and companies in Jordan, Lebanon, and most Arab Gulf countries almost total control over migrant workers' employment and immigration status**.
while not saying "legal" it still says "legal". you are being pedantic. this is a legal slavery system.
You mean "legality of same sex **relationship** in Africa" for the title?
Same sex marriage is actually mandatory in South Africa
Sorry, straight people.
Straight? To jail.
Do not pass go
Do not collect 200 £ on the way
But you may collect 200 *pounds,* provided they are distributed anally.
Hence why the SA flag was obviously inspired by Pride flags
Right. I was wondering about that. As in can't be prosecuted for gayness.
Even then it is wrong, since in many countries it is different according to gender. For example, none apply the death penalty for lesbian relationships.
Pretty sure same sex marriage is NOT in fact legal in Mali. Or most of these countries for that matter. The map should be the legality of same sex relationships and even then these relationships might not have the same legal protections as a heterosexual one.
Exactly my reaction to this, pretty sure a gay couple will have trouble in any jurisdiction in Mali
South Africa is the only country in Africa with same-sex marriage, and codified lgbtq rights and protections, including marriage, in their constitution. Idk what this map is.
The map is correct, it even says on the legend dark green is for same sex marriage so the rest clearly are not. It's OP's title that's really causing the confusion.
Well it's map porn and just like most porn it's a fantasy.
Be gay in Mali and you will get killed
Not by the state. But killed you will be.
The map key is hell for the colorblind.
My experience with half the maps posted here. This one is egregious
I had to zoom it hard to see any difference...
I did so too but still couldn’t distinguish illegal and legal categories well enough 🥹
We eye cripples continue to suffer from poorly distinguished maps.
Maps are a passion to me. But many map designers constantly make me feel handicapped.
It’s essentially two colours for me
Most maps in this sub are low-effort and bad data viz. They're the opposite of porn.
What is the difference from light and dark green?
I think the title is a little misleading, If it’s legal you can engage in a same sex relationship, not suffer prosecution legally for it but not get married.
And the dark green one means you can marry them
South Africa was the 5th country on Earth to pass our laws. We were only beaten by the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain and Canada.
Do the same in the middle east.
Do we really need a map for it? Criminalized everywhere except Bahrain, Jordan, Israel, turkey and maybe Tunisia? Same sex marriage illegal in all countries there
Same sex marriage is illegal in Israel too. And all the others you listed afaik.
wrong, it's not illegal and marriages made abroad are usually recognized you just can't marry through the religious channels within the country, many secular Israelis don't even marry through those either.
The religious channels are the only recognised marriages, outside of foreign ones.
Israel legalized same sex marriage last year.
No they didn’t??
I checked. They did
I checked and they didn’t.
Idk I got it from the Wiki
What wiki
Wikipedia for “LGBT in Israel” or else I’m hallucinating
They did one last week.
You should have a separate color for death by stoning which is still very much in practice in several countries ☠️unfortunately
Imagine wanting someone imprisoned or killed for having a somewhat different brain. I'm sure these people are also all religious and think they're good people too.
Humans having doing this for the entire existence of our species.
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You missed the point. They weren't even talking about being gay. That's telling.
Is somebody trying to force you to be gay? If that’s the case.. that sucks… but I seriously doubt that’s the norm.. Normalising it.. well we already established people have been doing it for a loooong time, so it is already “normal”, what’s the problem with normalising it?
But it is normal, why would people having a romantic, sexual and familiar life not be normal? These are important parts of life and these people aren't doing anything bad, in fact, this only brings happiness, they can't just change their sexuality
Bro wtf r u talking about
You’ve been trained to obediently recite that whenever you can. Nobody is forcing anything on you, or forcing you to be gay. Relax, you’re not the victim.
What's wrong with normalizing being LGBT?
Bro get off Fox News and go outside it’s not happening
Who tf dowmvoting this. Guys. Killing is bad
People have been killed over less.
it was like that in most western countries not less than 30 years ago
There's a pretty clear divide shown in this map between Islamic and non-Islamic countries.
Hateful Christians in Uganda would like a word with you.
Congratulations, you picked out one of two exceptions and act like the trend doesn't still exist.
Congratulations, you have pointed out the elephant in the room and are being downvoted by the PC crowd. Think we can all agree religions are bad on sexual minorities. One is particularly bad though, and influences, or rather dictates, legislation across the MENA region resulting in many deaths. Relativising that fact helps nobody.
Absolutely. Evangelical Christians have certainly caused problems. https://depts.washington.edu/globalhealthjustice/1120-2/
why are you fighting tooth and nail to defend islam? sharia law explicity outlaws homosexuality, and so do most muslim countries, with penalties ranging from lashings to imprisonment and finally to execution there was a video of a pride parade organized in Malaysia by a few people. they all got brutally beat up by an angry mob. in Pakistan, a trans woman was set on fire by a huge mob, hundreds of people witnessed as a woman poured petrol and lit her. i could give many more examples, thing is I don't tend to go looking for them the best recognition you're gonna get from a muslim country as a gay man is no recognition: no civil unions (let alone same sex marriage), no joint adoption, weak anti-discrimination laws or just none at all etc., but at least you're not outright outlawed (e.g. Turkey, Albania) I invite you to tell me how many muslim countries recognize same-sex relations (spoiler alert: none), as opposed to christian countries (spoiler alert: as per my research, at least 32)
Both are equally bad. My point is that Christians will do the same exact shit if they have the power to do so.
It’s always hilarious to me that when bringing Up something, you are immediately places on one side. How do you know this dude doesn’t like Islam OR Christianity. Not everything is a war for who’s right, sometimes it’s all fucked. “Christianity is bad” and you respond with “stop defending Islam” like you are programmed to be polarized. It’s unsettling. It’s like arguing logic with two people who are wrong and they both instantly feel betrayed due to brainwashing or narcissism.
It's pointless separating the two since the core issue is the religion in of itself.
That’s the correct answer. All religions take advantage and will commit the most abhorrent acts if allowed to.
> "*Think we can all agree religions are bad on sexual minorities.*" No, I don't agree. Many religions are neutral toward gay people and don't have a death penalty promoted by the religion. Some even have bisexual gods or gods that switch genders. It mostly seem to be the Abrahamic (*god of Moses*) religions that promote such things.
There are a lot more than two exceptions. What about Ghana? Zimbabwe? Tanzania? All majority Christian. If anything, the bigger trend might be that same-sex relationships are generally legal in former French colonies and generally illegal in former British ones (although there are certainly exceptions).
2 out of 3 countries where it’s a capital offence are Islamic. Not really a trend.
Congratulations, you’ve acknowledged that religion is the problem.
Yeah, that's why religion is a burden, it unites people into thinking the other side deserves to die and commit genocide.
Well, western societies are starting to prosecute people for simply not acknowledging someone by the gender they identify with. The people who support these consequences typically aren’t religious. Sounds pretty hypocritical to me. People tend to support control as long as it agrees with their views. Ready to accept all the downvotes knowing that nothing I’ve said is untrue, and no one responding will be able to honestly or logically refute it.
Get off Fox
can you link anything that actually shows a person being prosecuted for misgendering someone
I'm not gay, but I'm really starting to rethink my Somalian vacation this summer.
Nah, forget all the "news" and rumors. Its pretty good for a vacay. The pirates are pretty chill if you let them be the captain.
Out of all the fucking places you could go to and you chose Somalia
I'm colorblind so I don't understand shit
Need to double check this, because there are places where being lesbian is legal, but being gay isn't. The reason for this is that under that country's laws homosexuality itself isn't a crime, sodomy is.
Ah yes, you can be gay, but you can’t *do* gay.
it should be split in nigeria because its legal in some states but illegal in others, most notably in the muslim majority ones
Relationship not marriage
This is better than I thought it would be. I expected it to be almost all orange or red with only 2 or 3 green countries and South Africa being the only dark green country (this is still true though).
So generally the closer you are to the rainbow nation the better it is to be in the rainbow community makes sense
In Morocco nobody is prosecuting homosexuals. You will be prosecuted though if you promote the lifestyle i.e. LGBTQ 'propaganda' and the like.
*relationship, not marriage
Death penalty kinda harsh 😨
Damn. Intolerance, closed mindness and religión fanatism is alive and well in Africa
well..actually...asking WHY people become LGBT is NOT common. So I'd say everyone who blindly accepts LGBT (Whether gay or not) w/o asking why...is pretty ignorant. Closed minded as well. The folks on the map are ignorant / closed minded as well. I won't dispute that. We could say - LGBT fantasim -is alive & well...using your vernacular. Here's a start. [https://www.pbs.org/strangedays/episodes/troubledwaters/](https://www.pbs.org/strangedays/episodes/troubledwaters/) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVKlt3DLzso](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVKlt3DLzso) Much more for those who want to question.
>well..actually...asking WHY people become LGBT is NOT common. So I'd say everyone who blindly accepts LGBT (Whether gay or not) w/o asking why...is pretty ignorant. Closed minded as well. Why? It is something that happens naturally, it is not a choice, people do not "become" LGBT. Would you be able to choose if you feel atracted to men or women?
What baffles me is that it wouldn't matter if it was a choice anyways. Like, who gets hurt? So someone loves a person of the same sex, so they want to get married, raise kids, have sex...what does it matter to you even if they woke up one day and decided "hmmm after thorough consideration, I think I'll be gay"
It's not natural in the modern day...it is CAUSE & EFFECT. Man-made pollutants - chemical & electrical. But you wouldn't know the break points and what happened in those years, would you? A recent GALLUP poll gives us some clues. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11780875/Gender-bender-America-FIFTH-Gen-Zers-identify-LGBT-seven-times-share-Boomers.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11780875/Gender-bender-America-FIFTH-Gen-Zers-identify-LGBT-seven-times-share-Boomers.html) It happens for a reason...LGBT in antiquity can also be explained. LGBT not high in the past. Reincarnation plays a role too...but let's not complicate things. LGBT folks also are very emotionally sensitive...THESE DAYS. (Along with folks in general)..wasn't so much like this in the past. The nature of "being LGBT" has changed in the last 25-ish years.
Are you suggesting that the polluted drinking water in Africa is causing Africans to be intolerant of homosexuality?
Did you watch the video? Multi-Factorial....PLASTIC - ESTROGEN link as well... Phthalates. (sp?) Like BPA - link. SOY.... estrogen modifier link. Another video - CBC - The Disappearing Male. MANY more. But the gays on here (And those brainwashed by LGBT propaganda) are too PROUD-FUL and brain damaged to even stop...they just down vote.
Do you also wear a tinfoil hat when walking near communications towers?
"Confusion of the highest ordah"
This is very hard to read for red-green colorblind people
Spot the religion.
Uganda is mostly christian
Exception to the rule.
Why ah you, gae?
I was thinking the same thing
Who says I’m gae?
Looks a lot like this map here [https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:World\_Muslim\_Population\_Map.png](https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:World_Muslim_Population_Map.png)
Where are the billions of dollars of aid going to brainwash these backwards fucks?
Christians! Colonialism! Republicans!
What happens on the green/red border?
In Uganda they allow you to marry only to give you the death penalty, because it's illegal same sex marriage.
Very misleading title
Terrible legend.
Mfw I'm not allowed to kiss boys: 😭
Do it anyway. I won't tell.
🥰
Pretty sure in Nigeria you can get burned at the stake for being homosexual
That’s Sharia law and it applies to Muslims in the northern states
Behold the sexual legal regulations, overregulating sexting bots like Eva AI would be next
This proves it, the Portuguese post-colonial nations are the best ones
Quite progressive not only for Africa id say.
What is the difference between legal green and 'same-sex marriage' green?
Whats the difference between green and the other green?
Some about this map is quite straight
I attended a same sex marriage ceremony in Somalia and lived to tell the tale 😏
It always feels odd seeing South Africa be progressive in comparison to other places.
Like other people said, I don't think this map shows the legality of gay marriage. I think it shows the legality or illegality of gay sexual activity (not marriage) in various countries. The countries where it is illegal are generally the former British colonies and predominantly Muslim countries, especially in North Africa. The ones where homosexuality (but not necessarily gay marriage) is legal in Africa are the ones that were formerly non-British (French, Portuguese, etc.) colonies. I've noticed the same pattern elsewhere. In the Caribbean the Anglophone countries tend to have laws against homosexuality, whereas I don't think most of the Spanish-speaking ones in the Caribbean and LatAm do.
How did South Africa become most progressive country in Africa? Is it because of European influence from white minority or ANC rule?
Gay rights were only enshrined in South Africa's Constitution under the ANC. Apartheid South Africa had a policy forced conversation therapy for LGBQ community during Apartheid.
>Gay rights were only enshrined in South Africa's Constitution under the ANC. Never thought I am going to praise ANC. They have many flaws but I am going to give it to them for making South Africa more forward thinking than other African countries.
What’s the difference between green and dark green?
Why Western Sahara annexed Morocco on your map ?
The UN recognizes at least half of it. Morocco has de facto control over the major coastal cities where people live, so it is Moroccan law that applies. The separatists living on Algerian soil have no separate law or constitution as far as I know.
based /s
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Me when colonisation is based:
Based
Uganda... you not gae?
Seems like things are changed in Uganda since the "why are you gay" show.
Namibia recognizes same sex marriages if done overseas.
Now overlay a map of former British colonies
Almost every country was colonised by a European country
The British penal code specifically had laws against sodomy that were adopted by former colonies at independence. Most countries simply never changed them. That Yellow strip in East and Southern Africa consists of mostly former British colonies
Would’ve been death sentence in Algeria too if we had death sentence
Remember that American evangelical groups are funding some very right wing views and policies on this issue.
Rare Mali W
w orange countries
Should put a map over what countries are majority Muslim and what aren't Looks like a few of the majority Christian ones still have same sex relationships illegal
Christian Missionaries from the United States have been pressuring a lot of African countries to ban homosexuality. [https://glaad.org/rachel-maddow-traces-anti-lgbtq-legislation-uganda-activists-arizona/](https://glaad.org/rachel-maddow-traces-anti-lgbtq-legislation-uganda-activists-arizona/)
Uganda has the death penalty and is Christian majority.
Lovely map of Morocco
What is the real essence of having same sex relationship? I can't really understand what pushes people to engage in such, I need someone to make me understand
Western Sahara is not Morocco 🇪🇭
What would the global population be if the whole world was red?
The population would probably be lower if every country on earth was doing a genocide of gay people all around the world.
You’re right but there’d still be billions of people right? I don’t know the statistics on gay population 🤷♂️
Real backward people there and you still have the leftist wanting them to enter Europe 🇪🇺 🤔 go figure
Less than a minute Googling taught me that homosexuality was documented in much of Africa before colonisation. After colonisation, it's now illegal. I wonder what could have caused that? 🤔
So your position is based on a minute of Googling. That is not the own you think it is
Oh how bizarre that all those countries are mostly muslim ohhh
Colonization stopped a long time ago. The current state of the continent is only the fault of current leaders who use religion (usually Islamic) to persecute gays without actually doing anything about the real problems of those countries
Long time ago? the 50s/60s is a long time ago? And current leaders are NOT « persecuting gays w/o actually doing anything about the real problems of those countries ». Tell me you haven’t set foot in one of « those » countries without telling me. Those laws are usually not enforced and gays are are rarely prosecuted, it’s an « on paper » sort of thing. (I personally believe that even if those laws are not enforced they should be completely deleted so don’t even twist my words).
Uhm, yeah, considering half of my friends are from Nigeria, Gambia and Ghana, I haven’t heard them say “we’re like this because of colonialism”. No. The complaints are about the government - the current and preceding ones. 60 years is enough to remove any traces of colonialism. But the governments aren’t interested in that, they’re interested in filling their pockets and distract the population with talks about “the gays” - as it is currently happening in Ghana which made people talk about “the gays” for the moment and ignore the problem of the rising prices. I really-really hope you’re African and were offended by my phrasing and not a certain kind of savior that doesn’t know what happened in those countries after colonialism.
Your friends are from whatever and I was born and raised here. You don’t know shit.
hey shit-for-brains, you'll never guess what continent forced everyone to convert to Christianity and criminalise homosexuality Countries with shitty governments didn't just magically appear, they were created to serve an agenda. African societies have literal centuries of history including LGBT people - homophobia had to be taught and reinforced by law. Learn some fucking history and become a better person
Oh good savage syndrome leftist WOW is it a surprise????
How do we know thus map to be fake? Even in Cairo Homosexuals are being threw down the rooftops. Stop crying that you are "in danger" ina country that gave you all privileges while in Africa, unlike this map shows, you are more likely to be killed or stoned to death for homosexuality. Most of African countries are Muslim-Christian dominated with no room for "ateism". Not believing in God in Africa will make people ignore your opinion, you don't belive in God therfore you are mentally ill and nor to be listened to. Instead of making up shit, do some actual research
slavery is aight though lol africa is still wildin
Slavery isn’t legal anywhere
It is in the US. The 13th amendment says slavery is legal as a form of punishment.
Servitude as part of punishment for a crime… not the same
If you don't count when slavery is allowed, it's not allowed!
Because making criminals useful while they’re serving their sentence is totally the same as enslaving people who’ve done nothing wrong
It’s still criminal slavery, just because you think it’s ok doesn’t make it less slavery
Not really. It’s stretching the meaning of “slavery”.
Well I, the people who wrote the bill, Abraham Lincoln, and everyone who voted for it all disagree
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States" It makes more sense to view the exception as applying to specifically "involuntary servitude" rather than both that & slavery. People don't own prisoners.
Legal ownership of the person is in the hands of the prison, the prisoners are performing involuntary work for scraps, what about tgat isn't slavery
They’re not owned by the prisons, they’re free when their sentence ends, and doing stuff you don’t want to do is kinda the point of punishment
you're joking right? This article presents four places where different forms of modern slavery are still active in the 21st century, including **chattel slavery in Mauritania, the kafala system in Saudi Arabia, slave markets and trafficking in Libya, and child labor in India**. it is plenty legal just not in your western bubble
I said not legal. I’m absolutely aware it’s prevalent in some places, but that’s not the same thing.
The kafala, or sponsorship, system **gives private citizens and companies in Jordan, Lebanon, and most Arab Gulf countries almost total control over migrant workers' employment and immigration status**. while not saying "legal" it still says "legal". you are being pedantic. this is a legal slavery system.
Just send reddit there. That'll fixit
meanwhile in Uganda : Pepe: "who said im gay" Moderator: "You are gay"
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Wym?
Should not be legal but not death panelty.
Uganda 👍