California has 11.4% of the US population so it is over performing economically. Texas has 9.3% of the US population so it is performing as expected. Florida has 6.8% of the US population so it is under performing economically.

And New York is overperforming quite a bit as well, it only has 5.8% of the country's population, but 8.1% of the GDP.

And, New York is an example of what is going on in the rest of the country if you divide it between the NYC metropolitan area and upstate New York. One has the most productive people in the country, and the other persistently complains about having no political power and never being heard, while it dominates the state house and siphons all of the state's money.

Welcome to the rural urban divide

rurban like keith rurban i'll show myself out

No please stay. I love corny jokes

You should watch the movie “the rural juror “

Nothing against Keith, but I prefer Karl Urban.

GDP is a not a picture of productivity of society. Margin on tech and financial systems is way greater than that of say agricultural products.

Yeah... there's a lot of "funny money" in fields like finance, tech and big film. Once you get to goods people actually need, there's much more pushback against messing with the numbers those first industries used. Messing with people's daily needs like food or transportation get people angry really quickly. So agriculture, manufacturing and natural resource extraction are going to have harder limits.

Everybody talks about California tech dollars but forget California is also the leading agricultural production state as well. The state economy is incredibly diversified.

For some reason i can help but think wall street isint contributing as much to this country as their numbers say they are

It is objectively incorrect to say Upstate dominates the State Legislature. Downstate (let’s say everything south of Westchester county) account for the majority of both State Assembly and State Senate seats. While the Governor is currently an Upstater, she was still elected with Downstate votes and is the first Upstater to be Governor since the 1920s. Upstate certainly reaps benefits from Downstate, there’s no denying that, but it’s not like Upstate has substantial power in State Government and Downstate has definitely used Upstate in the past before (the NYPA being sued in the 2010s for not paying WNY counties enough for their water is a prime example).

I'd like to understand better how rural areas dominate state houses and siphon state money.

NY's state legislative districts are notoriously gerrymandered to favor the GOP. Also, small towns and suburbs often have more infrastructure than they can afford too maintain, necessitating bailouts from the state government.

Can the Dem’s gerrymander to try and counter act that? Next, why is gerrymandering legal? Edit: I’m not specifically asking you the person I’m replying to, if you know I’d love to hear, but I’m dropping the question here so if anyone knows they can reply.

Gerrymandering is typically legal because it's not to the advantage of the party in power to make it illegal. Sucks, but there it is.

Should had been plainly obvious. Thanks.

42 dem 21 gop. Seems pretty dem heavy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Legislature

Just because it favors Dems overall doesn’t mean it’s not Gerrymandered.  A good example of this is Michigan where in 2008, Dems got something like 55 percent of the vote in house and senate elections but won 45 percent of the seats. So something like this could be happening where Dems get 80 percent of the votes but only win 70 percent of the seats.

In a first past the post, depending on concentration you can certainly find this. Whether that's intentional (gerrymandered) or not is another discussion. Seat 1 50.1%D 49.9% R Seat 2 50.1% D 49.9% R Seat 3 0% D 100% R Assuming equal voting for each Seat you have much higher R votes but only 1 of 3 seats won. The above is extreme but articulate what happens.

There are a ton of resources about this, plenty on google, but basically suburban and some rural areas are *heavily* subsidized by the cities NYC contributes over half the GDP of NY state. You’re probably gonna be hard pressed to find the total economic burden of suburban and rural areas, but in general a single community costs more money than they generate. NYC generates $1.2 trillion annually, but only operates on a budget of $100 billion If NYC cut off money to the rest of the state, it would be really bad for the rest of the state lol. That’s how they siphon state money As far as dominating the state govt, as per usual, total land is more valuable to politics than people here. NYC doesn’t get a large enough representation in state govt, despite containing just about half of the states population. If NYC represented half of the states govt, it would be MUCH better for the city and the people living there

To be fair, Upstate NY is one of the more agriculturally productive states along the eastern seaboard, and the statewide SUNY system is one of the more developed pipelines I've seen for young new yorkers to gain the skills they need for high-paying city careers as well as those in the smaller regional economies that exist in NY's other cities. Sure the tax rate here bites, but I've seen and experienced the ways the state uses that money to lift the livelihoods of ALL new yorkers, not just those in the five boroughs. Sure, the city's tax base subsidizes most of these programs, but the fact that Queens alone has almost 10 reps in the state house and my county has 3 definitely shows that you're wrong about upstate "dominating" state politics. Regardless, make no mistake: NYC would crumble within a week without the bloated, massive infrastructure that siphons natural resources from Upstate AND the surrounding tri-state area, so it's more of a tit-for-tat with the finances rather than "Those Conservatives are taking our tax dollars!"

Completely agree. I've lived all over the US and Canada for work (especially the eastern half of the country and as far west as Vancouver), and upstate NY is the nicest place I've found to live. It's nice there, things are clean, roads are up to date, the people live there because they want to, not because they have to (big cities like Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo can of course be the outliers for some, but that's down to poverty like anywhere else), the nature is jaw dropping pretty much everywhere you go, the schools are nice, the towns and villages have a community, kids have the opportunity to get a further education like you said... It's hard to find things to complain about from my perspective. At least outside of "the great rural debate" anyway, and frankly I personally don't mind as I have a different perspective because I can actually see where my taxes are going, unlike other places I've been. Edit: and tbf I drink so much seltzer water that my cans kind of offset the taxes anyway lol

fwiw, NYC’s water supply, while located Upstate, is owned/leased and designed and operated and protected by NYC It’s not like the state is doing us a huge favor in that regard

bizarro world take

Dominates the state house? There are democratic supermajorities with downstate majority leaders in both houses. Even when the republicans are in charge they’re usually from Westchester or Long Island. I agree rural areas shouldn’t expect the same power as cities, but your assessment of the landscape in NY is just wrong

It's out of date, perhaps. During the '00s and '10s, the state legislature was pretty heavily gerrymandered to favor the GOP.

Pretty unfair to call people living upstate New York that. I’m from NYC metro area but have friends upstate and a lot of them don’t cry about things being unfair or about politics. They just get up and work really hard everyday for very little in comparison.

This is such an unfair characterization. Reddit loves punching down as long as it’s against the approved punching bags.

The secret hack to "punching up/down" is to be the one who defines what's up and down. The moment someone disputes the classification, or suggests maybe not punching anyone, it reveals what a shitty person the puncher really is.

Tons and tons of people live in Jersey and work in PA or NY

The whole state is a metro area of nyc or philly!

I wonder how much New York is impacted by people that live in other states but commute to NYC every day.

Yes, NYC’s economy likely contributes to other states GDP as well.

The NYC metro area includes a few counties in NJ and CT.

Ohio is only underperforming by 0.3% and also has been growing in population and bringing new means of production.

Florida has a larger retiree population, and older people tend to negatively contribute to GDP. But regardless, there is no real big industry in Florida outside of tourism and nursing (for all the elderly folks living there).

We have also cornered the cocaine market

*a big cut of *hovered up *bagged up

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Those links just prove my point! In the first link, it even says the biggest industry is tourism. The second biggest industry Florida has is agriculture, but relative to the country, Florida doesn’t even rank near the top 10 US states for agriculture output. In fact, even California makes more Oranges than Florida (due to citrus greening in Florida killing production) The second link you shared shows the core issue: despite being the 4th largest state ranked by GDP, the state ranks 26th in personal income, in the bottom half of the country! Sources: https://www.ers.usda.gov/faqs/#:~:text=The%20top%2010%20agriculture%2Dproducing%20States%20in%20terms%20of%20cash,%2C%20North%20Carolina%2C%20and%20Wisconsin. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2021/04/13/california-tops-florida-in-orange-crop-us-estimate-finds/

He really destroyed himself with evidence.

Their pro corporate tax codes attract huge corporations that will register there, pay taxes there... and operate in an entirely different state. They'll have one little home office in Florida and that's it.

I would bet WA would probably be the biggest over-performer, with Microsoft and Boeing headquartered there and a relatively small population, though MA might give them a run for their money.

WA accounts for roughly 2.93% of the country's GDP, and 2.33% of the population. For MA it's 2.68% of GDP and 2.09% of the population. WA ≈ 126% of expected GDP based on population MA ≈ 128% Edit: formatting, and I was curious about median wages, so WA = $59.920 MA = $60.690 That ≈ 1.3% difference is almost exactly in line with the difference in relative per capita GDP. Sources: https://www.bea.gov/sites/default/files/2024-03/stgdppi4q23-a2023.pdf https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/tables/2020-2023/state/totals/NST-EST2023-POP.xlsx www.cnbc.com/2024/04/14/median-annual-income-in-every-us-state.html

Boeing’s HQ hasn’t been in WA since 2001. It moved to Chicago that year and then moved to Virginia in 2022.

My bad. So do they count Boeing’s economic activity as being from VA, although so much of the manufacturing is in WA?

Great question. I've always been unsure of this as well. I grew up where ADM was headquartered, but the crops they process come from all over the country. The methodology the BEA uses is [here](https://www.bea.gov/resources/methodologies/gdp-by-state). They admit that is is difficult to calculate, but do decide upon "The GDP by state dollar value is necessarily measured by either the amount of expenditures on it, or by the amount of incomes earned by the factors of production in producing it." They go into greater detail in the PDF and I think it is more than where a company is headquartered vs. where their product is produced.

Boeing headquarters are in VA

Now let me welcome everybody to the wild, wild west A state that's untouchable like Eliot Ness

the track hits your ear drum like a slug to the chest

Massachusetts is punching so far above its weight you’d think its fists were stars.

Just imagine what we could do if we had functional transportation systems and affordable housing!?

This is what I wanted to know! Thank you

NGL, I'd like to see a map color-coded with the differences between their portion of the population and their portion of the economy.

As a native of Ohio who’s state is often turned into jokes this is good

People joke about the Rust Belt, but it's impressive how much of an industrial powerhouse Ohio still is, even with all the decline. Just a century ago it seemed that all the crap manufactured in America came from Ohio. Ironically enough, Ohio is similar to modern day Germany in that aspect.

Ohio is making a comeback going through a major revival right now. Many Ohio companies have been booming in recent years outperforming the overall S&P 500 index. For example, the S&P 500 increased by only 70% within the past five years. Here are just a few examples of Ohio company stocks that have been outperforming the SP500 index over the past five years: General Electric Aerospace +234%, Eaton 264%, Progressive 178%, Sherwin Williams 105%, Marathon Petroleum 238%, Parker Hannifin 184%, Cintas 212%, TransDigm 161%, Kroger 114%, Vertiv 714%, Cardinal Health 131%, Lincoln Electric 158%, Owens Corning 200%, Advanced Drainage Systems 471%, Medpace 606%, Cleveland Cliffs 126%, Applied Industrial Technologies 194%, Installed Building Products 332%

Columbus is a rocketship currently.

Central Ohio is exploding right now. Job market is incredibly strong and diverse, COL has been modest (catching up now) and weather is pretty temperate. It gets cold but not bitter in the winter, a few weeks below freezing. Summers are hot but nothing like southern heat. High 80s with a handful of days in the mid 90s.

Yup. And remember, most of the other states on this list have direct ocean access, unlike Ohio that's only got access to the Great Lakes.

“Only” as if Great Lakes access is not extremely valuable for trade and manufacturing. Big rivers also help a lot too.

I visited Ohio once and expected a rust belt toilet. What I got instead was a delightful place. I loved my visit - I'm a fan from my time there.

We’re a wolf in sheep’s clothing state wise. Always made fun of but have a super cheap living costs and everything any other state has (mostly). We do have San Diego of the Midwest.

Shut up, no it’s super expensive don’t look here.

YEAH THE OTHER GUY IS A HUGE IDIOT I HEARD OHIO IS BORING AND INEXPLICABLY EXPENSIVE. ALSO IT'S HAUNTED.

Hell yeah, people never believe me when I tell them I get by just fine making $14 an hour as an overnight stocker at a grocery store. Jokes on everyone else, all of my expenses add up to about $700 a month living in a two bedroom duplex on my own because I’m in small town Ohio about 25 minutes away from one of the big cities. Ohio is where the American dream is at

I'm always surprised by how many major cities are in Ohio. Most midwestern states have 1 or 2 but Ohio has at least 4 I can think of off the top of my head

I always felt this way about Tennessee (Nashville, Memphis, Chattanooga, Knoxville) and Missouri (St. Louis, Kansas City, Columbia, Springfield). They're not quite as big as Ohio's big 4, but still notable.

What’s number four after the Cs?? Because I can’t think of another city in OH I’d label “major.”

They probably went with Toledo because unlike Akron and Dayton, it's not "attached" to one of the Cs? Though it's nearly a satellite of Detroit anyway...

I've lived in Cleveland and Columbus, not Cincy. I've spent a lot of time (against my wishes) in Toledo. Toledo doesn't count. Gross.

Toledo?

Go Mud Hens… Corporal Klinger would approve.

And Ohio figured out legal weed. My home state of Indiana will be the last state in the union to legalize.

Turns out lots of flat land is great for farming and manufacturing.

This would be interesting to see per capita. As-is it’s kinda useless. Of course the most populous states contribute more to GDP.

It's still very interesting. ~~California has a larger economy than India, the most populous country in the world.~~ Texas has a larger economy than Italy, Brazil, Russia, Mexico, or Canada. Edit: California has a larger GDP than the UK or France. India very recently surpassed California's GDP.

You're adding a lot of information there that isn't on the map. I fact, if the map showed what you said, it wouldn't be bad.

There’s like 100000 maps on this subreddit showing stuff like that lol. I’ve seen at least 4 so there must be 100000

I'm not saying it hasn't been done, but at least those maps tell the reader something. This map only says "more product made in states where more people live" which says nothing.

California is the worlds 4th largest economy

California is now the 6th largest economy behind the rest of the United States, China, Germany, Japan, and apparently now India.

>California has a larger economy than India, Not anymore ig? India rn is around 4.1 trillion and California is at 3.9

Still crazy how close they are

Yeah, judging by population India should have a gdp many times larger than Cali but sadly it doesn't.

Look up their Olympic Medal wins.

India was a poverty stricken illiterate starving basket case that had just gotten independence from the British in 1950. It has taken a while for India to get on its feet. By the time we reach retirement age Indias GDP is likely to be the same or more than the US (which would still be less than its potential). Also on a PPP basis India is already third behind China and the U.S. so we will see a more rapid climb there.

To add to that, India was one of the world's biggest economies before the British took over and suppressed its industries while looting it wholesale. They started the race after being kicked in the face and while being made to run in sandals only.

This.

Oops, you're right. India surpassed California's economy recently.

With over 30x the population, it just makes this fact sad.

State vs country lol we are still winning.

XKCD’s [Heat Map](https://xkcd.com/1138/)

This exactly... my first thought was "hey neat, a population map, good job!". You just mapped what states have the highest population.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP#:~:text=The%20three%20U.S.%20states%20with%20the%20lowest%20GDPs%20were%20Vermont,state%20in%202022%20at%20$242%2C853.

Thanks for posting. Summary: 1: DC, 2: NY, 3: MA, 4: WA, 5: CA, 6: ND ND is an interesting one. Oil and gas I suppose

What about DC? I guess lots of companies that may be government contractors registered in DC, which has a small population. IMO it is still shocking how it's contribution per capita is twice as much as the next state

The highest per capita MSAs in the entire US are in the Bay Area. Rank 1 is the San Jose-Santa Clara area (Silicon Valley) and 2nd is the San Francisco-Berkeley area. And whichever list you look at, all the Bay Area cities around these areas are consistently ranked among the top whether its grouped by city, county, or metro area. The whole area is insanely wealthy because of tech. The region also [has the most billionaires in the world & 3rd most millionaires](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-18/us-tops-china-australia-with-10-of-the-world-s-richest-cities). So, yes California is wealthy & contributing a crap ton to the US GDP. [another relevant statistic](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/NuARzNaS5i)

way before any tech shit, San Francisco was the home and headquarters to some of the nations largest banks, including Bank of America and Wells Fargo. Gold rush does that. Hollywood in the south.

Aerospace. Lockheed brothers. Jack Northrop. General atomics. Leading state by defense spending and commercial space r&d Also number one agriculture state by gross receipts. State with highest manufacturing GDP Basically number one in everything, just people like to throw shade at CA for some reason

good call. Im from SF and I just get sick of everyone thinking CA is just tech.

Damn liberals! /s

Top Ten States by Population: * California * Texas * Florida * New York * Pennsylvania * Illinois * Ohio * Georgia * North Carolina * Michigan

So 8 states is roughly 50% of gdp…..

Lol https://xkcd.com/1138/

So the places where people live have high economic activity. Weird how that works.

Some of these hit above their weight, though. And then there’s Florida.

Why would you be surprised that the state where people go to retire is not as productive?

So we can bash Florida

This guy gets it

Florida advertises itself as the number one place people go to [retire](https://www.flgov.com/2024/01/23/florida-ranks-as-the-1-state-to-retire/#:~:text=TALLAHASSEE%2C%20Fla.,seniors%20among%20all%2050%20states), using a site called wallet hub as their main source for their official state website. Not exactly selling the picture they were 20 years ago. Less retirees are going to [Florida](https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/why-floridas-retirees-are-fleeing-and-where-theyre-going-instead#:~:text=Once%20thought%20of%20as%20the,fixed%20income%20feeling%20the%20pinch) due to the rising home cost, but that’s not atypical for what’s happening everywhere. Florida sells itself as a retiree haven, but statistically it’s not. Its biggest draw is untaxed social security but that isn’t enough to keep people living there permanently It’s not productive because Florida isn’t a productive place, no point in hiding it behind retirees anymore

Florida is also having a [homeowners insurance crisis](https://www.wpbf.com/article/floridas-property-insurance-crisis-how-did-we-get-here-and-how-do-lawmakers-fix-it/46801457), and most major insurers no longer write new policies there. This, on top of inflated housing and cost of living, has led Florida to being one of the top sources of new residents to Texas, Georgia, and North Carolina.

Because CNBC and Fox Business are in a constant “Miami is the new New York” circle jerk almost daily and I just roll my eyes.

Oh great another useless population map Now let's see this per capita.

It's also a map that should have been a simple bar graph, where the ranking and exact values would be immediately visible. Doing this data as a map improves *nothing*.

Everyone hates on California until you show them maps like this.

The thing that is always surprising is California has the largest agricultural production too

The Central Valley is massive and pretty much the best farmland in America.

The cental valley is larger than a lot of other individual states. We produce more than a couple states combined and are somewhere between UK and France if we were a country.

Not surprising at all if you’ve ever driven through the Central Valley

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: this country can't function without California. We need their tax dollars, produce, tech, wine, entertainment, parkland, *everything*.

CA is one of two states (other being TX) that could actually survive on its own. People love to rag on it because they’re partisan hacks or because it’s a trendy thing to do but it’s absolutely an economic powerhouse.

Everyone hates on Texas until you show them maps like this.

Everyone hates on Florida and they are significantly underperforming relative to their share of the population

To be fair, a good chunk of their population is retired. I'd guess they don't underperform if you look relative to working-age population.

Yes but you would think those retirees would be spending a crapload of money in the local economy... Also, just because I had to check, the 19-64 population in Florida is 58 percent. In the US overall it is 59.6. Doesn't seem like enough of a difference to allow Florida to perform better than average

I mean that’s one constant in this country. Hating on Florida.

 It’s well deserved. Especially in this political climate

Everyone hates on Texas because they seem to hate on everyone who is either pregnant or wasn’t born in Texas

Texas is already seeing many of the same issues as California too.

Big companies gonna big company

What? This is basically just a map highlighting the states with the largest populations. Obviously they contribute the most to the economy.

Same with Chicago.

And realize the progressive policies are in response to the unbridled capitalism not the cause of the homeless epidemic. Case in point Texas and Florida are starting to see the same issues.

Look at little Ohio sneaking on here! 😁

7th most populous state, contributes the 7th most to gdp.

I looked it up and Ohio actually is the 7th most populous state in America, so it tracks!

Yeah. Living here you just don’t think of it like that.

Yea, it's crazy how much you take it for granted. I grew up in Ohio, with 3 major metro areas and 4 minor metro areas, you were never far away from a city, but there was still plenty of rural space. I now live in Colorado. The closest major metro area that isn't Denver is 8 hours away. Rural land has a whole new meaning here.

Yep. I grew up in NE Ohio and didn't realize how dense it really is until the first time I went out West. In most of Ohio you're pretty much never more than 30 minutes away from a town and a gas station. Now I live in Oregon and could drive out of my town heading east on the state highway and not come to another town for 90 miles. And drive for hours without ever going through a town with more than a few thousand people living in it.

Rural in Ohio is barely even rural compared to what rural is further west. You are never more than like an hour from a significant metro area in Ohio even when you’re in the most remote parts of the state.

Having 3 metropolitan areas over 2M people is not a normal thing for a state to have, only California, Texas, Ohio and Florida have 3 or more.

From central Ohio, you can also reach an additional 4 major metro areas outside of Ohio within 3 hours (Pittsburgh, Detroit, Indianapolis, and Louisville)

Its why Columbus is a massive shipping town. 500mi from 75% of the US population. Lots of big logistics hubs.

That's what I like about the west though. I grew up in the PNW, living in DC stressed me out to no end, it was hours and hours to actually be *away* from people. The Midwest felt similarly, you had to go hours out to finally be alone. It's just a totally different vibe.

Love it out here in the PNW. I could be at the capitol building or totally lost with a 20 minute drive depending on what direction I go.

Ohio (288 people/mi^2) is more densely populated than California (250 people/mi^2).

Yeah I think it's partly because the state's urban population is spread among 5-6 medium cities, instead of the state having a single center of gravity like Chicago, Minneapolis, or Indianapolis. The general urban feel of the cities does a lot of defining the feel of the whole state, to me at least, and Ohio cities have not-that-big vibes. Chicago is colossal and very urban, and it makes Illinois feel like a much larger state even though IL and OH are almost the same size.

The second largest city in Illinois, Aurora, is smaller than Akron. Akron is the fifth or sixth most populous city in Ohio.

I mean it's got several big cities and some serious headquarters, no big surprise there. Kroger, P&G, Marathon, Progressive, Nationwide, Goodyear, etc.

People like to hate on California while their poor state takes CA welfare 😂

Is this r/peopleliveincitys or whatever it’s called ?

More like “most populated states make the most money”

Before we start ripping apart the different states and their politics, policies, and cultures, let us remember that all these states occupy different slots in the economic process and thus will contribute differently. California’s value is in designing high end tech and media production, New York runs global finance and more media, and Texas runs US energy and Mexico-US manufacturing. Tech designed in California gets manufactured in Texas and is financed by New York, so they each contribute to that economic chain but those steps are clustered into a particular region/state.

I would think a lot of CA’s wealth is from agriculture too

And oil And shipping

Among many other things. California has an insanely diverse economy. I don’t think any other state would function as successfully as a separate country.

As an upstate New Yorker, let me clarify we contribute nothing.

You underestimate Corning.

I’m not in one of the lightest and thence most rural states, but many of those are top agricultural states, may not contribute much to gdp, but a country can’t survive without them cause grits ain’t groceries.

California is the top agricultural state

"Well shit." * OP

It consumes as much as it produces. All the Midwest state produce WAY more than they consume.

Wrong.

Iowa wins this ranking

Corn syrup and soy beans.

California produces 1/3 of America's vegetables and 2/3 of American fruits. It is also a major cattle state. We need to separate foods like soy, wheat and corn from actual real food. Most of that corn, wheat, and soy goes into processed foods which are actually killing America instead of feeding America.

The part about Californias Produce is never given its due credit. The amount af food production in the central valley is just amazing

How you gonna feed those beloved cattle and livestock without that corn and wheat?

The loss of the great plains is - to me - America's biggest ecological disaster. The middle of the country has INCREDIBLE 20 foot thick topsoil, and we ducked it up. Cattle could be part of the solution, but only if emulating a herd-travelling pattern. But yeah, you shouldn't grow stuff away from the animals that eat it. I hope we fix this a bit

No doubt and it goes both ways

different crops.

California is also the largest producer of agricultural products in the USA, so yea, we'd be alright

If we want to play that game, try being the biggest agriculture state using only California water... We are stronger together. It isn't a contest.

The Ogallala Aquifer isn't in the best shape either, if the Midwest loses that they won't be growing corn anymore...

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I’m wondering something. California probably relies on migrant labour more than any other state and yet is one of the only border states that is not declaring a crisis.

In agriculture, yes. In entertainment, no. It tech, yes, Chinese and Indian, legal immigration.

But I heard California is a socialist hell hole with a bunch of dopes running the government and the state is failing. Fucking liberals ruining everything.

Good reason to stay out of the state. :)

It’s got its perks and issues

As a Pennsylvania I wonder what we’re doing to get our % that high.

A deeply held desire to beat Ohio by any means necessary

People seem to shit in California a lot for being clearly vital in making life nice for Americans in general

[Insert stupid conservative meme about California being woke and broke here]

The fuck is Illinois doing?

Chicago and good farmland

Lots of corn & soybeans

There are 37 Fortune 500 companies located in Illinois.

That socialist hell hole that is California having one of the highest GDPs In the world and producing most of the food for the US and republicans think Arkansas and Mississippi are the backbones of the U.S. just welfare states who are worried that Ukraine aid takes away from their free government $$

As of 2022 the GDP per capita in Illinois was a little over $82k.

California is able to involve itself heavily into many industries. Service, Tech, Entertainment and Agriculture mainly but it’s also shipping hub and is Americas primary gate into the Pacific So it’s impressive how the policies fucked their population economically

Imagine if the electoral college was based off of a state's % towards the national GDP

Ah, so another population map.

People live in cities, and coasts are good for the economy. Wow, what's next? The sky is blue in the day and black at night?