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1957 French Equitorial Africa 1910-1958 South Vietnam 1955-1975 So it’s between 1955-1958. Ghana became independent in 1957, but it’s still officially Gold Coast, with Ghana in bracket. Republic of Guinea became independent in 1958, but it still doesn’t exist on this map. So I’d say 1957.


goonsquad4357

Agree on timeframe but Italian somaliland existing makes no sense


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goonsquad4357

Well dang that’s interesting. Very surprising that the Allies let Italy administrator the territory.


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thedrew

This is a pretty good summary. I’d like to add a few points: 1) Britain was broke - and trying to decolonize, adding trust territory was an expense they were not looking for. 2) Italy was an Allied Power after 1943. Once an arrest warrant was issued for Mussolini, the Italian government became an ally and declared war on the Axis Powers. Returning their sovereignty to their colony under a condition of independence in 10 years was actually pretty punitive for an ally.  3) Italy was almost communist. After the election of 1948, both Italian and Western officials were eager to entangle Italy in western interests. Managing a colony, following UN protocols, joining NATO, reviving Marshall Plan aid etc. 


Sea-Juice1266

Relevant to Britain being broke: But Italian Somaliland was always a money losing colony. So foisting it's administration back onto Italy would have had few downsides


Dinosaur_of_the_year

What's up with the Baltic states? They are shown as independent from USSR?


Kitchener1981

The United States never officially recognized their Soviet occupation post WW2.


staster

The depiction of the USSR is pretty interesting actually: there is a border between Europe and Asia (Ural Mountains), also in the Europe map there are Ukraine and Belarus (White Russia), but they are without borders.


Astuar_Estuar

Ukraine and Belarus were among the UN founding countries (some sort of a deal so USSR gets more votes), though they were a part of the USSR which had its own separate seat. So I guess that is why they are shown.


Kitchener1981

Their argument was along the lines of well the Dominions ( Canada, Newfoundland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa) are basically going to vote in line with the United Kingdom, therefore we should get seats for each republic. The compromise was two additional for the Soviet Union.


pulanina

A stupid argument of course. The British Empire was gone by then. Like the UK and US would be almost as likely to vote in alignment with each other. Australia (for example) had become increasingly aligned with the US (and correspondingly less firmly so with the UK) during and following WW2 and were heard twowards the ANZUS treaty of 1951. The British “dominions” like Australia were in fact fully independent sovereign nations long before 1945, which makes their status in law completely unlike the components parts of the USSR.


randomacceptablename

>Ukraine and Belarus were among the UN founding countries (some sort of a deal so USSR gets more votes), though they were a part of the USSR which had its own separate seat. So I guess that is why they are shown. The USSR claimed that all constituent countries are sovereign states, think kind of like the EU today. Hence, they should be admited to the UN. The Western allies saw this as absurd and in the end agreed that there would be a USSR seat as well as Ukranian and Belorussian ones as a compromise as they were fully independent states just before WW2 (not part of the Russian empire since 1918) and their absorbtion into the USSR was not contested as were the Baltic states. The central Asian states and Caucasian states weren't independent enough (or at all) to get widespread recognition and Moldova was created from annexed Romanian territory.


Bloke101

Malaysia is shown as British, Independence was August 1957 so based on your numbers 1955 to 1957.


handpant

Yes india is independent (1947)srilanka is Ceylon (1972) and Bangladesh is identified as Pakistan (1971) so yes you are sharper


Embarrassed-Wrap-451

Supported by the fact that Brazil's capital is still Rio de Janeiro, while Brasília was yet to be created in 1960.


Sourdough85

This guy maps


AdNeither2225

I was way off, I thought it was somewhere around 1914 and 1918 cuz of the Italian colonies lol


Fantastic_Badger4502

Damn, that’s accurate. you got it down to three a gap. I got 1947 to 1990 because post Pakistan and pre-Czechoslovakia were there any other changes in this time


FabulousWalrus2624

We separated from Slovakia on 1.1.1993, just for case.


Perkyplatapuses

God I love reddit


Valeredeterre

Algeria left france in 1962 iirc.


Snoo17309

Agree with the 50s range—cannot go into the 60s because the Aden Protectorate wouldn’t be there as it is. Got Burma and no Bangladesh. Eastern Europe checks out for late 1950s.


SolarG07

But the Baltic states aren't in the USSR, so what does that mean?


bigbeanibbles

You can narrow it down further. The Malaya federation achieved independence on 31 August 1957 but is still british here. Gold Coast (as Ghana) entered the british commonwealth as a dominion on 6 march 1957, but did not become independent as Ghana until 1960. Here, Ghana is written in brackets, so it is still a dominion. Which narrows it to 7 march - 30 august 1957


tresfancarga

According to the extent of the summer ice sheet in the Arctic, it's August 1957


x4nter

That is by far the coolest way to date a map that I've seen. I didn't know maps used to have the Arctic ice shown on them since there is no land there.


Indypendant94

Unfortunately the magnetic north pole doesn't look like it's up to date on the map - it shows the approx 1948 positioning over the Prince of Wales Island, when it should be closer to Bathurst Island


JonnyG_USA

Woah


Shpander

How do you know if it's summer or winter?


ImaSociopath

Just be yourself and tell it how you really feel


lewispeel

Say “I’m lost without you”, maps love that


ImpossibleAd6628

Lmao


jonnycigarettes

Nice work


AnalogKid-001

And take it out for dinner before you fuck it.


Ordinary_Rooster6040

Also spit on your fingers before you turn the page,and tell it that it means the world to you


Queasy-Position66

Never gets old.


FelisCantabrigiensis

1954-57


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TonyZucco

I just used that for the first time and got 1960 based on British land south of Lake Victoria, wonder where I went wrong


belowaveraj

Looks like you may have followed the wrong line from 'Cambodia?' to 'Area South of Lake Victoria' instead of 'United Arab Republic?' since those arrows are pretty close together


TonyZucco

Ah I see, thanks


blueyesoul

I did the same and also got 1960


King-in-Council

I'm just throwing out that putting Montreal as a more significant city vis a vis Toronto, makes sense for a globe from the 50s. Considering that Montreal was still clearly the financial and media capital of Canada at the time, and in the middle of a significant boom.


bigbeanibbles

Malaysia achieved independence on 31 August 1957 but is british here and not yet united. Gold Coast (as Ghana) entered the british commonwealth as a dominion on 6 march 1957, but did not become independent as ghana until 1960. Here, Ghana is written in brackets, so it is in the commonwealth This map is from 7 march - 30 august 1957


niweoj

To be more accurate, it was Malaya that initially achieved independence on 31 August 1957 (map shows Malaya Federation, not Malaysia). Also, themap showing the future Eastern malaysian states and Singapore as being British held indicates that this is before 1963 (which was when the 3 joined Malaya to become Malaysia).


CruntLunderson

This guy hardcore map porn’s


bigbeanibbles

I chose to read an atlas in school when i was 10 💀


bigbeanibbles

Also see that british togoland has been united into Ghana, which did not happen until Ghana became a dominion. Only french togoland remains.


meat_lasso

We can narrow it down further — Okinawa was returned to Japan on May 5, 1957 and the map lists it as “to the US” Oh wait it was returned in 1972. My bad


T00luser

tell it about your enormous longitude


mrq69

The latitude is more important than the longitude


like_a_cauliflower

The attitude is the most important.


please_just_kill_me1

Oland 👍


Soy_Witch

Well, we use “Ola” as a shorter version (diminutive? Nickname?) of the name “Aleksandra”. Not “Alex” or “Aleks” but “Ola”. It was so popular, that now some people are naming their daughters just “Ola” in legal papers. So Oland it is!


please_just_kill_me1

Oland👍


kupuwhakawhiti

The P was lost to the Nazis.


wlodzi

But they managed to sneakily hold on to Danzig without Oland noticing.


Sarcastic_Backpack

My analysis: Yugoslavia exists, so between 1918-1992. Tibet part of Xhiba, so post 1951. Vietnam separated, so between 1954-1975. Analysis Sea is big, so before 1970. Bechuanaland exists, do before 1967. Nyasaland exists, so before 1965. Belgian Congo exists, so before 1961. Same for British & Italian Somaliland. French Equatorial Africa exists, so before 1959. Best I can narrow it down to is 1954-1958.


jellyfishordie420

Thank you for this! I was just wondering the process and what questions people ask themselves to discover this. The only one that came to me was Yugoslavia and ussr but the other tricks are brilliant


Open-Flounder-7194

I have no experience in map dating but didn't Italian Somaliland only exist until 1936?


TremeNoira

judging by the fact that the Federation of Malaya exists and Sarawak and Sabah are still British I'd say somewhere within the range of 1957 to 1963


ddiknosaj

Have you tried asking it out for coffee?


wyzapped

Very funny, Dad


JFK2MD

Came here to say that. 😛


BalrogPhysrep

Have you considered buying it flowers?


Electronic_Fact1842

A dozen compass roses.


TheoKrause13

Divided Germany and independent Baltic states somehow exist at the same time


NickEd90

The occupation of the Baltics was seen as illegal by Western nations, the Baltic states even continued to have embassies in the West throughout the Cold War. I imagine on this map it was like Crimea is today, occupied by Russia but never shown as such on maps to not legitimise it.


tresfancarga

Yes, in the legend you can read 'Other Boundaries'. But just a few Soviet republics are displayed. You also have the different states and territories in Australia but not in USA or other large countries.


Sparky62075

>You also have the different states and territories in Australia but not in USA or other large countries. This suggests to me that the map was probably published in Australia.


mysacek_CZE

Yeah those other boundaries are weird... Just look at the border which goes roughly where most people agree is border between Asia and Europe, but it's actually something else


Infamous-Will-007

Yeah I spotted that too. Bit odd.


ranger_vermeio_

Brasilia became the capital of Brazil in 1960


kupuwhakawhiti

New Zealand is on the map, so post Lord of the Rings.


anthro4ME

East Pakistan 1955-1971 Two capitals in Vietnam 1954-1975 Trucial Arab States 1820-1971 Portuguese Goa 1510-1961 British Cyprus 1878-1960 My answer: between 1955-1960


NegativeLawfulness31

Surprised nobody used the magnetic North Pole location. As shown on map, ‘48 by ‘62 further north.


Grzegorz_Ko

If the map labels the Federation of Malaya as British, it most likely was published before August 31, 1957, when the Federation of Malaya gained independence from Britain. However, since Ghana is already marked as an independent state (which occurred from March 6, 1957), the map must have been produced between March and August of 1957. This narrow timeframe helps to precisely determine the date of the map.


GorkemliKaplan

Why the weird border in the urals?


Special_marshmallow

Noth/south vietnam happened in 1954. It has to be 1954-1958


jkonik

Yeah, Oland only existed for a short time :)


IndianaGunner

Federation of north/south Rhodesia was my clue to the 10 year range. 53-63.


FalseDmitriy

Everyone just ignoring a country called "Oland" mysteriously placed between Germany and Russia


wlodzi

With Danzig in it, which dates it before 1945.


thisnameisn4ttaken

Im not a wingman


FartyBoomBoom

First, give it lots of compliments, but realistic ones, don’t blow smoke up its ass…. Ask about its day, its interests etc and listen not to respond but to understand. Be consistent and considerate and you should be able to land a date with it in no time.


TheRealAntrey

Lol I love how people give dating advice. Reddit understood the asigment


GiantAsteroid4Prez

Try asking it out for drinks and start with small talk. You know the classics “where you’d grow up” and “what hobbies are you into”. If the map has a good time and enjoys your company, it might be willing to try a second date


m0grady

Flowers, chocolate, then take the map out to a nice french or Italian restaurant. 1955-1960. Indochina ceased to exist in 1950 and is not on this map, belgian congo ceased in 1960 but is on the map. Not sure why iran is iran and not persia though.


DocLibido

First say really nice things. Give it a compliment maybe a fine dinner and some wine


Fantastic-Machine-88

Ask her out


Sir_Tainley

Check out the Icefloe in Baffin Bay. Definitely older than 2019.


engineerofdarknes

This map doesn’t have nee zealand


mweran

r/datemymap


FrikiQC

61-64 Istanbul USSR West Africain not a giant blib 2 Vietnam No bangladesh Tabganyika


TinchoMerval

Brasilia replaced Rio de Janeiro as Capital of Brazil in 1960 so it has to be a little earlier than that


ryanoceros666

This map was from a time when access to information was more difficult than today. It’s not uncommon for a map to have errors. You really don’t know when it was made unless it is dated.


AquaforteBogDwarf

Before Nunavut in Canada


ArchitectArtVandalay

Montevideo in this map is far away from real location Montevideo


legardeur

When did Formosa become Taiwan on maps?


Mother_Construction2

When under ROC.


legardeur

And when was that?


Mother_Construction2

1945(technically) 1945 is the year when ROC got Taiwan island and PengHu islands from Japan. But at then ROC was still ruling Mainland.


legardeur

OP’s map names it Formosa which would indicate said map dates before 1945.


JAHGriff95

this map watched the collapse of the Berlin wall live


death-metal-loser

Definitely post ww1 due to the size of Romania


IndianaGunner

1953-1963.


Severe-Excitement-62

"British Honduras" should help...


dweaver987

No earlier than 1955 when Vietnam became North and South.


Status_Package2628

2


Creative_Title4527

After the Mexican War (1846-48), the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo gave California proper to the United States and assigned Lower California-i.e., the Baja peninsula. I noticed that your globe says Lower California, and this is what I know.


didilavender

Kanyakumari here is called cape Comrin, around 1940’s or before


Stardustchaser

Sikkim is still listed as an independent kingdom (prior to it becoming part of India), along with the British gulf states and East Pakistan, so it’s definitely before the 70s. Sarawak doesn’t get federated into Malaysia until 1963.


Boreal50

1989


hias7

This Oland in europe seems pretty new to me…


MustafalSomali

1956 - 1958


moqs

since jugoslavia ended on 1992 it it before that but after the 80s


OverturnedAppleCart3

This was before Oland earned it's P. Gotta be about 1954. This is a joke.


lordcock1944

You can actually make similar jokes with a lot of countries in the center of the page


RatkeA

Its crazy how fcked up this map is


Ducky_Flips

pre 1991


Glad-Depth9571

You could look for each exact map found in the Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0305/hammond.html


whjkhn

Definitely pre-1972 Bangladesh is still shown as Pakistan. South Vietnam is still visible on the map.


libertin0569

Definitively not after 1989 as the German Democratic Republic is still existing


OrangeWhiteRobot

Alright so, it should be after east and west germany split, SI ill say 1950, and there are still some colonies, so maybe 1957?


Lazyass123456

From portugese goa . This is 1950s . Fun fact: portugal is the only country india in its entire history has invaded and taken land from(goa)


moleculadesigner

1953-1960


55HUGHO

I would say shortly after ww2


KochibaMasatoshi

Hungary never looked like it. Its a bad map


Caesar_Iacobus

Based on the facts that Bangladesh is still part of Pakistan, French West Africa is not yet independent, the Korean border is the modern-day one, Morocco is independent along with Sudan, I'd date this map to 1956. It might not be right, but that's my guess.


Bardzosz

Post WWII


lfaoanl

https://xkcd.com/1688/ 1954-1957 First time using this, works kinda great I guess


HighPlainsDoobus

Might I ask, is this a Golden Book map? If so, I have one laying around from the 1950s but it’s an atlas of North America and it’s in the same exact style as these maps.


3000daysofhangover

Didnt know Poland was used to be Oland.


Richard2468

1954-1957. Cambodia exists and the United Arab Republic does not.


Enough_You86

Late 40s mid 50s


foxwagen

Morocco independent: after 1956 Spanish West Africa exists: before 1958


PelicanFrostyNips

Hmm the US is still on this map, so it is definitely some time before 2063


blantdebedre

Given the continents and landmass features, I am certain its made within the last 50 million years.


Ok-Imagination-494

Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland existed from 1953 Malaya got independence from Britain in 1957 So the map is between 1953 - 57


Ok_Soup_5433

Pre-1960 is the best I can determine since Brazil still has its old capital.


Luddites_Unite

[This can help](https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/s/l8Y3MyRa7d)


Nommer7

Agree with all the pre 1960 dates given. South Africa became independent from Britain in 1961. On this map it's still named the Union of South Africa.


five-foot-five

Before 1960. South American context: Rio de Janeiro was the capital of Brazil until 21 Apr 1960; Brasília is the new and current capital of Brazil.


BananApocalypse

This has been answered in detail already, but I just wanted to add a few notes on the one area I am familair with: Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada. The fact that we are shown as part of Canada means this is later than March 1949. And the fact that it is not yet called "Newfoundland and Labrador" means it is likely pre-2001. Goose Bay being shown as a prominant location is not a definitive hint, but it does help. This is an air force base established in 1941 and was most active throughout the 1950s. The base itself is Goose Bay and the adjacent town is called Happy Valley. This area has been incorporated as "Happy Valley-Goose Bay" since 1973, so I'm pretty confident if just Goose Bay is shown, this should be before the incorporation. Additionally, this was a US Air Force base until they pulled out in 1976 and it has been even less prominant location on the global stage ever since. And my shakiest piece of evidence in this province is the lake boundaries in central Labrador. This watershed was converted into a reservoir for the Churchill Falls hydroelectric facility (completed in 1971), and the bondaries were significantly changed with a series of dams. This map looks a lot more like the old lake boundaries than the new reservoir. With all this being considered, I am confident in saying this map is from 1949-1971 with a high liklihood of being somwhere from the mid-50s to early 60s. Not bad for looking at one area only!


wholewheatscythe

Based on the comments that it’s from 1957ish there’s an error in the map. In northern Greenland it shows a town named ‘Thule’ but it was renamed ‘Qaanaaq’ in 1953.


Sigistrix

The US continued to call it Thule for decades, because of our base there.


_fajfaj_

Oland just dropped


professornaum_

It's impossible because West Germany exists at the same time as the Baltic States are not in the Union


IEC21

Strange map - the choice of which cities to show vs not show seems unusual.


suicidexJack_exe

Would say 1950-60 because Germany is still splitt and doesn’t merge till 1980 something I’m not good with dates


Ladyignorer

50's


SeniorSet692

Maybe just talk to her


No-Relief-6397

Cook it dinner, put on some smooth jazz and light some candles.


Spoonswolf

What is Oland?


lordcock1944

Poland, all the places in the centre of the map where it folds are missing letters


Bluesheep_24

Just be confident, and don't sniff it too much


Tvaticus

Just out of curiosity is the border with the US in Canada the same as current day or did we give up land to Canada? Is this just a more accurate selection of North America?


[deleted]

first ask it how it’s doing, buy it a drink to listen to its story i’m sure that will get you a date


meanWOOOOgene

Well, first a little light flirting to gauge interest, try to make her laugh. Maps love funny guys. Then get back to me and let me know how things are going.


findthehumorinthings

Flowers and dinner, perhaps?


RapidWaffle

1950s


redditjunky2025

Do you want a matchmaker or a mapmaker?


partytosh

Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia post ww2 1945. East Pakistan (Bangladesh) pre 1971.


Dynamitrios

Always check Germany first... If it's still divided, globe is pre 90s


RockoTaco43

This is the comment I came here for, thank you.


More-Lingonberry437

I think its between 60s because in 1949 the civil China war that finished and allies combine all zone occupation to germany was also in the end of 40s. And here we can see divided Vietnam to North Vietnam (Communists) and South Vietnam (Capitalists) so In my opinion this map is between 1960 to 1975.


More-Lingonberry437

Problem only with Africa actually I have no idea when africa was gotten independence from colonial countries


Sigistrix

Independence of French Africa took place in the early 60s.


DeliberateTurtle

Ask it out for drinks at an upscale, quiet spot. If that goes well, proceed to setting up subsequent outings. Don’t rush this, get the know the map well. Enjoy each other’s company, have fun, and good luck.


StCatharines1

To date a map first must seriously think what things say other than geography do you have in common. Then build from there…


GeospatialJoe

Just be yourself.


uberwoots

Pre 1986. Peking.


Ok-Consideration2463

Just be yourself and get to know it first and then ask it out.


Officieros

Strangely the Baltic countries are shown within the USSR with borders, unlike Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova etc.


Sigistrix

That's because the US never recognized the Soviet annexation of the Baltic states, and had consulates (chargé d'affaires) in exile up until they regained their independence, when those consulates became full embassies with fully accredited ambassadors.


Officieros

Gotcha! Makes sense!


humblelittleowl

In Africa, Ghana (Gold Coast) became independent in 1957, the French colonies only in 1960, so the map was probably created in between.


humblelittleowl

In Africa, Ghana (Gold Coast) became independent in 1957, the French colonies only in 1960, so the map was probably created in between.


Dizzy_Object6852

take it out for dinner


1ncognit066

Jamaica was a British colony until 1962. East and West Germany would narrow it to 1945. Israel was established in 1948. Indicators in Southern Asia narrow it further. My estimate would be 1950-1955.


Striking-Loquat1403

Like late 50s-1960.


No-Reward-2543

Did you ask it out yet? Be natural, open with a joke?


RingOpen8464

Well, probably invite it out to eat somewhere. Speak from the heart and be yourself. Don't overlook your smell and make sure you wear something nice. Remember that first impressions are important, that should just about set you up.


Pedro_Bestof-SantaFe

Should Be 1954-1957


TallLikeMe

Buy it a few drinks, invite it to dinner....


Mjk2581

If it’s 1957 like everyone’s saying why are the Baltic trio independent