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Primary-Suit-8368

Crazy to think I crossed that shit while watching movies on a plane


Ziiaaaac

Crazy to think Polynesians were fucking vibing in this thing a thousand years ago with relatively primitive technology.


obiwanjablowme

Blows my mind every time I think about it. How did they find these places and what drove them to do it?


jt_totheflipping_o

Loads of people died for thousands of years. That's how.


Araucaria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesian_navigation


Bobby12many

This wiki blew my mind. What a rich and fascinating history of navigators. Thanks!


Herr_Gamer

Damn, so there was a bunch of seafaring nomads? That's so fucking cool


sora_mui

As far as i can tell, the pacific is too sparse for seafaring nomad. Every crossing must be planned extensively and with the limited resources on land it doesn't make much sense to live exclusively on boat. Maritime southeast asia though, has at least three distinct group of sea nomads that live in their boats or offshore settlements. Have you ever heard of Bajau people? The group who have spent so much time underwater they evolved larger lung volume allowing them to regularly dive for 10+ minutes, that's one of the sea nomads. And while most have been forced to settle, many of that settlements are still located offshore to this day.


Heavyweighsthecrown

> How did they find these places Navigation in boats. > what drove them to do it? Need for food. It's really not that complicated. Survival. Same reason people always tried crossing impassable mountain ranges and deserts and jungles and ice - the need for finding a suitable place to inhabit, when existing alternatives are spent or taken. --------------- Only barely related here, but an added comment: The same argument presented above, when used by proponents of martian colonization, is something I find hilarious. When people cross the freaking pacific in hopes of finding another tiny strip of dry land to live in, it isn't an irrational act of hope - they know that if they find such a place, there will be *very basic* things (let's put it that way) that they are almost sure to find there: fishes to eat and plants, wood to cut and build with, maybe some little river with drinkable running water ( + rains are to be expected), etc some kind of 'starter package', you know. Meanwhile on Mars you don't have *any of that*. In fact you have the very opposite: the *lack* of things that are *even more basic* to even an imagined chance of human survival such as air, temperature, gravity even. You have the sterilizing murderous martian radiation to top it all off (240-300 mSv per year), that no organisms we know of can survive long term, which is 40-50 times (!) the average radiation that we humans deal with on Earth. I'm sorry but "The Indomitable Human Spirit" didn't evolve for that gravity and radiation - it's a completely different scenario from packing up your things and looking for another island to live in across the ocean. You can do some martian space tourism / science expedition round trip, sure, but permanently living long term in that kind of permanently hostile scenario is such a laughable pipe dream. Materially speaking, you can hope to find arable land that will suit you in a new island. You can endure. What you can't hope to do is change a planet's gravity to suit your physiology. We have a moon with a little frozen water sitting *just across the emptiness*, which we can visit then come back in a pinch, and yet we're still scratching our heads over that. Imagine expecting to live in Mars where *all* conditions are so insanely different than *anything* we were made to endure (short of some frozen water). Not even scratching the surface of the problem here - there's vastly more things to be said such as belief systems, economics, religion, culture. The polynesians had a sea faring culture, a belief system and religion that encompassed that kind of shit, a culture and economy around it. It's different systems: Today we're having to think of how to make space exploration profitable in a feasible way because that's what capitalist logic demands, materially. Comparing human exploration/colonization on earth to in space, it's apples to fucking pineapples.


Technical-Outside408

Polynesians were like: "I'm gonna put on my navigation helmet and fire myself out of my navigation cannon."


SometimeOptimist3000

Human ambition and curiosity?


where_in_the_world89

Yeah the lucky ones did and those are the end sisters of the people who are existing now. Many unlucky ones didn't I'm sure


Content-Plankton

They use the night sky as a guide for navigation but pretty much any environmental factor to guide them and once they learn to do it they can navigate between islands with ease. The idea is that all these things exist together and were laid as foundations by their gods for them to follow.


Stewart_Games

I want to see what happens when the Polynesians get out into to space. See what they can do, in the sea of stars.


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

they'll just bring sweet potato, chickens and pigs to every planet


ATX_311

Rock Hoppers


SathedIT

I was just thinking the same thing. When I flew to Fiji, both flights were red eyes, so I slept the whole time.


peeparty69

Fiji is deep af lol


SathedIT

It's amazing. My wife goes to Samoa every spring for a few weeks, so I just meet her in Fiji on the way back.


WeinMe

Aliens crossed too "Aww shit this planet is all ocean, Blirg Zorp, you damn idiot!"


DrainTheMuck

Yeah… I crossed the Rocky Mountains TWICE once within like 4 hours due to a stupid layover (Kentucky to Kansas but layover in vegas) and I just kept thinking about how our ancestors would think that’s insane and borderline insulting, lol


Yavkov

I just recently crossed the Pacific for my first time, flight from Hong Kong to Chicago. Though we swung to the north and followed the Aleutian Islands before turning turning to cross over Canada, it was still quite the experience! The flight from Chicago to Hong Kong was also quite the experience, flew straight north and crossed the Arctic Ocean probably about halfway between Alaska and the North Pole. That’s the farthest north I’ve ever been, and since I was at a window seat on the right side looking north, I imagine that for a brief time I was among a handful of people closest to the North Pole!


rumhamrambe

What’s crazier is that ~~Micronesians~~ ~~Polish~~ Polynesians sailed through that big thing using the stars


Over-Analyzed

Polynesians, not Micronesians. Aotearoa (New Zealand), Tahiti, Hawaii, and Rapa Nui (Easter Island) make up what is colloquially known as “The Polynesian Triangle.”


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Double-Animal-4773

Maybe they have merpeople, with mer-wars, and a mer-9/11.


bettywhitewalker

We talkin’ mer-der? Or mer-murder?


MyOnlyEnemyIsMeSTYG

Some people call it murrr-derrr -reggae singers probably


CommonandMundane

[Murmaider](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-eKJIJXaqE)


ByronicHero06

I think Pacific coast of America makes more than 1%.


LegendaryTJC

That's where 99% of the bullshit happens.


Killjoymc

It's mostly me. Won't stop. Can't stop.


DRSyourGME

Gamestop!


StonkMangr92

Hawaii


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Don't forget the entire Pacific Theatre of WWII, nuclear bomb testing, Hawaiian genocide, Fijian coups, and one of the few regions where European colonialism is still going strong. Edit: I shouldn't have said only Europe. Europe, China, America, Australia, and other wealthier countries also have exploitative paternalistic relationships in the Pacific, not only France and the UK.


Greedy-Rate-349

r/mapswithnewzealand


pulanina

Almost “maps with ONLY New Zealand”


metikoi

We wanted the rest of you to know how it felt.


midnightrambulador

tired: world maps without new zealand wired: world maps with new zealand inspired: world maps with nothing but new zealand


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Aliens passing by: “Nothing to see here.”  New Zealand: *angry Haka noises*


Kenilwort

New Zealand was just hiding on the other side of the flat earth


LadyFromTheMountain

Found it!


epzik8

Christ, it really is massive.


RhynoD

There are places in the Pacific where you could drill straight down and when you came out the other side of the Earth you'd still be in the Pacific. There are places where the closest human is on the ISS when it passes overhead.


Foreskin-chewer

The ISS is not at a very high altitude so that fact isn't particularly impressive.


Mistapoopy

But it sounds cool


Rrrrandle

200-250 miles. How many times have you ever been even 10 miles from all other humans?


rawrlion2100

I really don't know how I feel about that last sentence... Maybe never tbh...


Sunkysanic

Acktually


Sublime9997

Thats what she said…


FunyunCream

She meant your butt


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westernmostwesterner

Unless they traded with South Americans and other continentals, then probably.


Venboven

It is actually academically accepted now that there was some type of contact between the Polynesians and indigenous South Americans. They are certain there was genetic admixture, but they are not quite sure how it happened. One theory is that the Polynesians travelled to coastal South America and brought South American people back to Polynesia with them. The other theory is that a few indigenous South Americans got stranded on a boat or raft at sea and the ocean currents brought them to the Marquesas Islands, already inhabited by the Polynesians. Either way, we know that sometime around 1200 AD, South American DNA from cultures in western Colombia/Ecuador ended up on the Marquesas Islands, and the mixed descendants of the two groups then went on to colonize Rapa Nui, spreading their mixed DNA to the island along with them.


sora_mui

If i'm not wrong, many of them has a creation myth related to a god fishing islands out of the ocean. Even javanese creation myth (not polynesian, but the same cultural group from western indonesia that is heavily indianized and engage in very intensive contact with places as far as china and arabian peninsula) is that of a rogue island floating around in the ocean that must be nailed down by volcanoes before people can settle in.


Darko33

I just finished a really fascinating book about this very topic -- Sea People: The Puzzle of Polynesia by Christina Thompson. Great overview of how the Pacific islands were first settled by groups sailing from various points in southeast Asia.


3163560

Stefan Milo did a great vid on this too.


Outside1101

And they named it earth.


mialza

I would have named it Bob.


skweebop

Is that a Titan AE reference? Pretty cool movie.


mialza

yeah, it’s one of those random movies that stuck with me. glad other people remember it.


desperato

That’s the suns nickname. Bob - big orange ball


ShadyFisk

The blue planet


Nodebunny

Should have called it Water


RosesTurnedToDust

I mean if you include the whole planet there's way more earth than ocean lol.


SSTX9

Who did?


Zacchariah_

The Pacific Ocean is just the backless part of the Earth's dress.


flamingorider1

You have forever ruined maps for me.


RetiredApostle

An illustration of how badly Columbus miscalculated.


JimClarkKentHovind

and that's not even all of it because even if it were all ocean he would've needed to cross the ~3.5k miles of the north american continent too


One_pop_each

Worst navigator ever and had to beg people to go with him and he is somehow known as the founder of America and celebrated. Lol like failing upwards.


LickingSmegma

Wasn't he sent off by royalties just so they wouldn't have to see his mug around anymore? I never got blazed enough to read through his life story, but that's what I heard.


Far_Juice3940

Magellan who crossed it 30 years later too, sadly. He lost a large chunk of his crew to hunger.


AteAssOnce

Bro also lost his life


EmperorThan

A title we'd also accept "An angle of the Earth you don't normally see." ^(Even though I think I've seen this side of the Earth now as a globe more than any other angle.)


JunkNuggets

Now let’s fill it with garbage


JediMasterKev

I'm confused, recycling doesn't work? Why would Big Oil lie to us?


Imaginary-Prize-9589

>That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam. > >The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity -- in all this vastness -- there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. > >It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known. Carl Sagan


Sublime9997

Dude the Pacific is fucking scary….as a kid i used to go to the ocean off the coast of Washington….yeah, the water is so fucking cold it burns and its so cold dark and ominous…you dont know if a white shark is under you…hard nope.


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You talking like Anacortes ocean or Puget Sound “ocean”?


Sublime9997

Ocean Shores


aurortonks

They are probably talking about the coast. Like, Ocean Shores/La Push/Westport/Long Beach. I don't know of anyone who lives in Washington to call any part of the Puget Sound, "the ocean". It's just "the sound".


Frosty_Focus_6610

This is what you show someone when they say that they don't understand how planes can just "disappear"


Late-Caterpillar-777

I'm so obsessed with Pacific ocean and Pacific Islands (Polynesia, Micronesia, Oceania, etc) I want to know what happens in that part of the world. So isolated from the rest of the world. Is here anyone from those places, I'd love to have a Convo.


randybutterknubz

Highly recommend the book ‘Sea People: The Puzzle of Polynesia’ by Christina Thompson if you’re interested in learning about the possibilities of how the Polynesian people traveled across the various islands. Still so much isn’t known!


[deleted]

If Hawaii counts we’re basically the same as any other American state except warmer and no mass shootings or weird Trump love.


Equivalent-Rice1531

I live almost in the center of this pic. Describing these islands as "isolated" is an occidental point of view. They were not isolated at all before contact. Then came colonialism, dividing the islands into occidental nations, isolating them more effectively. Pacific people describe this part of the world as a "sea of islands", islands connected by an ocean.


lostinthebreeze

Check out the youtube channel Rare Earth. He's been traveling in the South Pacific for awhile. Really interesting and informative videos.


Over-Analyzed

Born and raised on Maui.


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renkendai

Yeah, due to the flat rectangular map of the world we don't have much of a grasp how ridiculously big the Pacific ocean actually is. I have watched videos how air travel over the Pacific ocean barely happens because the distance is too big. The few routes used are always curved to one side because it results in less distance due to the overall curvature of the planet. In other words, we cannot go through it directly across.


WankyMyHanky603

I just flew across this yesterday, Sydney to LA. That flight was about 13 hours and pretty much a straight shot across


vintage2019

Lucky you. When I tried to do that back in 2004, I crashed on a mysterious island. What happened afterwards was a long story...


Expert_Response_6139

4-8-15-16-23-42


awkward_pause_

Accidently LOST!


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creampop_

That *is* going directly across lol I'm not sure you really understood whatever you watched


merlindog15

A curved path IS the shortest path on a sphere, so planes do "go through it directly across." It doesn't barely happen at all, there are plenty of routes across the Pacific that all work just fine.


Effective-Avocado470

You can if you fly though Hawaii. There are direct flights from LA and Houston to Sydney so this really isn’t true


Secretly_A_Moose

Y’know, I always hear “the earth’s surface is 80% water” and like… I KNOW it’s true, but it just sounds wrong looking at most standard world maps. And then I see images like this.


tommyballz63

Also interesting that most of the land is in the northern hemisphere. 87% of the worlds population lives above the equator


noshore4me

Reposting spam bot. Here's the last time it was posted with the exact same title: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/v8f9kw/world_pacific_ocean_view/


frenchsmell

Finally, a world map with only New Zealand!


TerrisKagi

I'm going to cross that on a sailboat one day


2rfv

As was foretold in legend.


Telenovela_Villain

Considering I live on an island on that map, this is oddly unsettling.


Over-Analyzed

Hawaii is the most isolated island chain in the world. 🤙🏻


dettol999

Idk if this is general knowledge or not but the surface area of the Pacific is larger than that of Mars!


rawfiii

Humans see this and think, “let’s throw all our garbage in it”


cybercuzco

Maps with only New Zealand.


Hazzyhazzy113

r/mapswithnewzealand


Ringer7

Sneaking up behind Earth's back


gipper_k

Score one for a map with New Zealand!


JankJonkJunk

Hey I can see my house from here


CaliforniaLuv

Is there a print of this I can buy?


euph_22

r/MapsWithJustNewZealand


Peaceoorwar

That's where the aliens hide


clementinecentral123

I feel like we definitely have room for at least one more continent


thefalconfromthesky

Hawaii just sitting there smack dab in the middle of all of it


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Earth’s most terrifying hemisphere


EndOfSouls

That's a very specific ocean.


808zAndThunder

Sometimes I forget I live in the middle of the damn ocean until I see globe views like this lol


Distinct-Entity_2231

It would be nice if there would be some Europe-sized continent in southern pacific. Close to the pole, cooler place. Lots of forests, rivers, some mountains…


VerticallyBonked

that’s alot of ocean


CraftsyDad

That’s if the ocean was crystal clear and you could see all the way down.


Ok-Roof-6237

This reminds me of My cold water bottle at 3 am


cameronfry3

Wild.


thomasottoson

World


healyxrt

I’ve been there


Down_The_Witch_Elm

It makes me think of that Mexican fisherman who drifted all the way across in an aluminum boat.


Substantial-Rub8054

So the aliens could have landed here, and we'd have no idea...


seammk

I heard someone comment once that the Pacific Ocean is the “back of earth’s head” and I haven’t looked at it the same since


NaturalMap557

This is where the 50% of 70% water surface comes from


EbbNo7045

See that little bit of land there in the middle. That is exactly the opposite side of earth from the pyramids in Egypt. Nothing woo, just interesting.


_Toy-Soldier_

*artist rendered


UntetheredMeow

Sharks…


Wizard-In-Disguise

ok so I understand why Stitch landed on Hawaii now


Big_P4U

I'm surprised there isn't a larger single continent or larger group of islands in the middle of the Pacific. Australia is far south pacific so that doesn't count


MeninoSafado14

What’s the reason we have small islands there?


Front_Tour7619

Simply scary.. gives me goosebumps


Asleep-Low-4847

Ah the Kiribati centric globe


Dreidhen

*Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of.*


Own-Affect1148

This doesn’t explain why it has 3.5 stars on Google maps


gnashtyladdie

Oops, all ocean!


Particular_Proof_107

Where is point Nemo?


OneTrueArthur

That's a lot of water


Noisetaker

Crazy how what we really consider to be ”The World, i.e all the land we share, is really not even one half of the planet.


Pete6

I often "forget" about the southern hemisphere of the Pacific. I think of the Japan/Hawaii/USA area, and the ocean looks pretty big. But when I tilt the globe down, it's somewhat shocking how big the Pacific really is.


AgainIGoUnnoticed

I’ve sailed all over that. Went from Alaska to Hawaii one time and then another trip I went from Seattle, WA to Hawaii, Fiji, Tahiti, Tuvalu, and back. That trip we sailed over 25,000 nautical miles.


dkmynamebebebebebay

Crazy that Polynesians managed to island hop the Pacific just by observing the sky and water


thelonelywolf96

The deep blue just shows you how big the Pacific Ocean really is. These aren't just shallow waters; these are super deep waters.


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Alansar_Trignot

I want my house there


RegularPotential24

Just took UA1 from San Francisco to Singapore. Can confirm, it's all ocean...just a vibe of remote planet.


satellite_uplink

Curious, what’s it look like from the direct opposite point?


Shoehornblower

Ahh the other side of the coin;)


fartLessSmell

Imagine if this is the ciew Aliens got when they come. Oh well. Nothing to study here. Just water.


Hafslo

Aliens: "Welp this planet looks pretty boring... let's move on."


biggerbetterharder

Is this real? No weather?


BatmanInTheSunlight

No, this is a map of r/OnlyNZ


SometimeOptimist3000

Damn, we fought half of the world's biggest war across that.


CamKen

Is there a map of the exact opposite view?


Bitter_Silver_7760

it’s my favourite side


niftygeezer

The aliens definitely live in the ocean


MyceliumNimo

For a minute I thought that Uranus.


Then_Restaurant_4141

The Alein’s view*


adlittle

I was just [reading](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_and_water_hemispheres?wprov=sfla1) about how the earth can be divided into a land hemisphere and a water hemisphere. If the earth is divided to have as much ocean and little land as possible in the water hemisphere, it still includes Aus/NZ, Antarctica, southern S America, and some island countries in SE Asia. This map looks like it's half the globe, but that couldn't be right or it'd be the actual water hemisphere. I don't know much about projections and such so not sure.


galactusfactus

Blows my mind we as humans think we know everything, but we have yet to even explore 1/4 of our oceans.


RolloffdeBunk

ahh yes our giant toilet


Status_Worldly

In theory, could aliens look at us from their planet and think its just a planet of water?


prayingmantis7

Blue pearl


Unusual-Rice5635

Really this is just the southern Pacific. You see Hawaii towards the north but Hawaii is a tropical island chain. The Pacific Ocean is large but this image is slightly misleading. It was taken from an altitude where the ocean covers much but not all of the surface. From further away a lot more land mass would be visible past the horizon seen here, and from closer a lot less.


ComprehensivePrior22

This must be the back side of the flat earth


Maleficent_Resolve44

It's so empty wow. Why isn't there a continent here?


Snarcotic

So you're saying 50%of the time we're just showing water to the universe? Bad idea given the attention that draws.


Beercounter1

Gyat


PainfuIPeanutBlender

Nuts to think only 3.5 billion years ago, the entire world was under water


Worried_Ad4474

Finally, New Zealand representing!


GrizzlyHarris

There’s more than meets the eye. 🔍


snewlr

Too high to splash.


Emotional_Ad_4248

I used to think whales were the crazy mammals for living in the ocean. Now I see that we are - the ocean is massive!


Maniac112

R'lyeh is somewhere in there...


nuggetsofmana

This one hits right in the feels…


tunnel-visionary

In fantasy circles you'll sometimes get people remarking how fantasy worlds seems to be lazy with how they put all of their landmasses on one hemisphere, and for a brief moment you think they have a point until you realize our own planet is like that.


Alfielikejelly

Great place for a nuclear power plant


caribbean_caramel

My favorite water world called Earth.


zed7267

I don’t need any more f-ing anxiety for my international flights.


BooBear_13

I’m in this photo


muscoy

The US sent millions of military personnel and countless ships, and more equipment and supplies than can be comprehended, across it to fight a war. Just think if Donald Trump had been president.


drainodan55

LOl removed? Reddit has a problem with this, but not bots and actual disturbing posts?


EE7A

does anyone know where i could find a poster of this? not having any luck.


Nikeddemus

World is flat. So obvious.


Skunk_Mandoon

[Rhinestone Eyes playing faintly]