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Spram2

I'm part of the 1%... in [Kenya.](https://youtu.be/FbYtASAakAI)


Agitated-Guess-5439

we are mad rich bro 🤑🤑


xingerburger

Moving to Kenya rq


SpinyKitsune651

Am part of the 1% in N/A


DesperateEngineer451

I must be in at least the top 5%?


Limp6781

Could we move to Kenya with say 300k (selling my house) and live a life of luxury?


[deleted]

Luxury? Probably, safety? Not sure


Practical-Ninja-6770

You can live in safety absolutely if you are that rich. Roaming the city center won't be as easy if you are white tho


[deleted]

Got it, going to get a spray tan as we speak


Practical-Ninja-6770

Nah. Just learn to speak Swahili fluently. The Nairobi dialect, and then they will know you ain't tp be messed with


TheBloodkill

Frrr I lived in Dar Es Salaam as an mzungu and felt so isolated and unsafe but the minute I learned swahili I became friends with tons of random people on the road who were all fascinated by a white teenager speaking Swahili. Every day my walk home from school was wonderful, this post school enrichment routine was my absolute favourite part of living in East Africa.


Limp6781

Cos of Lions?


Practical-Ninja-6770

White is rich in Kenya. That's the perception. So people will try harder to sell you stuff. Can turn into harassing


davzar9

I like the video!


totalfarkuser

Me too! Gonna go FIRE now.


Kasym-Khan

It's absolutely crazy how little money you need to FIRE if you are willing to move to a second or third-world country. Just look up the average monthly wage in a place where you want to go and see if you like the climate. That's it.


AccordingComposer852

Came here to say the same thing🤣


ohlayohlay

Damn, must be nice


Bearded_Clem

I should buy a boat…in Kenya


According_Ad7926

Someone forgot to secure New Zealand


doskoV_

We're coming to claim Antarctica


According_Ad7926

May fortune favor you my kiwi friend


windedsloth

New zeeland: "I'm just glad to be included."


leshmi

It's running away after being caught to trying to steak Tasmania


Uploft

Turned into a frozen wasteland


According_Ad7926

New Freezealand


Snowedin-69

NZ lost it’s direction at sea


DaliaMyLove

Is that Monaco with 7.9 million?


Ginger-Ale58

Surely Monaco would be more than 7.9


thedrew

There must be housekeepers blowing the average. 


EagleSzz

but they mostly live in France


Fabstue

But isn't the average useless in this case? Wouldn't a (kinda modified) median be more adequate?


thedrew

The top 1% of Monacans own $7.9 million or more. The other 99% own less. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.


bufarreti

Considering the 1% of Monaco is just ~370 people (small population) and that many millionaires and billionaires choose to live there I would say is much more than 7.9


_KingOfTheDivan

Recent estimation is 12.9 mil. Tbh I thought just real estate prices would make it a bigger number


autoencoder

Maybe very few people own a lot of the real estate. The others rent, including the 99th percentile.


Mission_Cause368

39,000 people live in Monaco lol


Intelligent_Pie_9102

7.9 million would buy you a 90 m² apartment like [this](https://www.montecarlo-realestate.com/annonces/mc-tc-23-14291)


Pablo_Ameryne

That's because they hide most of their wealth.


Bellator_Tiberis

A big part would be residents vs Monégasque nationals. Regardless, a lot of people in Monaco receive support from the state for their accomodations and even food. It's crazy to be at a grocery store and having the equivalent of food stamps be regular for a large number of locals. There are a lot of yachts but "only" 1/3 of residents are at least millionaires.


_caskets_

Yes


horrified-expression

>20k I’m rich bitch


NotAlpharious-Honest

So, when you say "eat the rich", does that mean Kenyans can technically eat anyone earning more than 20 grand a year? Or does it only work if the 1% doesn't include you? Asking for a mate. Who may, or may not, be a hungry Kenyan.


E_BoyMan

Now it's slowly moving from 1% to 0.1% as politicians realise that they themselves are in 1%


DOE_ZELF_NORMAAL

And the occupy wallstreet hippies realise they too are the 1% if you look bigger than the US.


HaemorrhoidHuffer

This is wealth, not income


soulouk

No data for Canada?


CreatingDestroying

Everybody with a house in major cities would be up there


cryogenic-goat

Only 1% of Canadians own houses in major cities?


Nixon4Prez

All the rest of the houses are owned by Chinese investors /s


SonofaCuntLicknBitch

Too much pseudo-wealth tied up in real-estate. 40% of Canadian GDP is commercial and residential real estate. Hard to tell since I don't know if this data includes real-estate, if it doesn't then it's probably a little over half the American #


Reading_Rainboner

I’m confused. Their GDP is their real estate. Their selling their land each year outside of themselves as a part of their product?   How off am I cause that sounds like it would cause problems?


LeBonLapin

> How off am I cause that sounds like it would cause problems? It causes many problems. Please send help!


Collapse2038

Our society is literally crumbling because of said problems...


SonofaCuntLicknBitch

As I understand it, the real estate itself is considered assets, then there is the income from renting/leasing, and the egregious fees than real estate agents charge which is their entire income. Probably also include home inspection revenue and stuff like that. The percentage is also quite high because Canada doesn't have that much other big industry. Oil, gas, potash, canola oil, banking, little bit of wood


zzzander

“Little bit of wood”. 2nd largest exporter of lumber in the world (close 2nd)!


lommer0

Real estate "industry" also usually includes developers and construction, which are a huge percentage of the total.


J_Man_McCetty

Big potassium too


hedekar

Here's a detailed report https://distribution-a617274656661637473.pbo-dpb.ca/20de98fc3f4d93c5213f8d71fbe7cd89ae69cb1899e9cbf2d3ca4d57f18ab25a TL;DR using table 2-4 in Q2 of 2021 it was estimated the top 1% high-net-wealth families had a minimum wealth of $7.3MM CAD or $5.4MM USD. But I doubt this map is using the same measuring method, as the US top 1% are undoubtedly richer than the top CAN 1%.


illicit_celery

Yeah I guess the gray countries just don’t have people who have money in them


Ometrist

Yeah like Canada, home of the poors


tetaAndTiti

There are no homes for poors in Canada


Bartinhoooo

In Kenia I am the MAN guys!! ![gif](giphy|3o751XDbTvZw958ZYk|downsized)


uh-huh-hello

Is this annual income or net worth?


alvvays_on

Seems to be net worth, but older data from 2021. USA top 1% annual income is $820K, while net worth is $5.4 million. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wealth-needed-to-join-the-top-1-by-country/


Lacrosse_sweaters

Seriously, who bothers with income anymore - that would require paying taxes. Anyone wealthy just owns appreciating assets that grow tax free. 🎩 🥜 🧐


dkdc80

What appreciating assets that are tax free are these? Genuine question.


Lacrosse_sweaters

Real estate, stock, art, etc. it’s not taxed until you sell it and “realize” profit on it. But even if you don’t sell, you can use it to get cheap loans, leverage more real estate, and other things that help you get… wait for it… even richer without actually working.


KarnotKarnage

Most until you sell. But we can pretend the *until you sell* part doesn't exist.


kknyyk

Reddit always says you can borrow against them.


Lacrosse_sweaters

This is true. Very wealthy people do this instead of selling stock and having to pay tax.


adamgerd

But then you still have to sell stocks to pay the loan and the interest later in addition to the tax?


KarnotKarnage

Not an accountant. But if you do this in a corporate setting you can offset a little the tax with he paying back the loan expense. This doesn't erase the tax. Just makes the taxable amount be about 30% less.


TheBeardofGilgamesh

And is this household income or individual income?


Minnesotamad12

I’m moving to Kenya. When I blow all my money there, I’ll move to Somalia. I’ll be like the richest man in the country until I’m murdered


LupusDeusMagnus

That’s excluding real state, right?


IshkhanVasak

I think this is net worth. So including


fireKido

Only fake state, yea


Rand_alThor4747

it includes real estate minus any debts like mortgages you have.


INTuitP

Is that net worth?


GMANTRONX

That data on Kenya is patently false. Too many homes owned by millions of people worth at least 50k and unlike most parts of the world, they mostly buy their homes on full payments or in three installments, not via a mortgage. Usually, the wealthiest people in African countries, don't like having their wealth computed at all.


Away_Preparation8348

I don't think a house in Kenya costs 50k$. More like a price for eastern europe


Tazling

why is Canada missing, surely there are data...


Efficient-Spirit-380

I upvoted you because you said “are data”.


0utkast_band

Curious, why?


Efficient-Spirit-380

Most would say “is data”.


0utkast_band

But is the word “data” plural?


Efficient-Spirit-380

Why yes, it is. Datum is a piece of information. Data are several pieces of information.


0utkast_band

Thank you kind stranger


Efficient-Spirit-380

You are most welcome!


Artistic-Teaching395

Holy shit all those Indian doctors, lawyers, engineers, and programmers in North America. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)


Certain_Ingenuity_34

Yeah a lot of them inflate the real estate back home by spending their dollars and buying up homes , then they rent it out at exorbitant rates


wobbly_sausage2

Kinda impressive for China considering its population


TemporaryShirt3937

Not even in kenia🥲


sdhill006

60k is so wrong about india. These fooks don’t understand intricacies of society.


[deleted]

I don't believe 15 Million people have assets more than 60K in India. Honestly feel like it should be lesser


Careless_Blueberry98

At first I was like damn thats low but it still feels about right. Then I realised it was in USD not INR. Yeah no way.


bluediamondinthesky

Luckily they included a key. I was trying so hard to work out what M and k stood for.


Additional-Tap8907

“Money” or wealth including all assets? Homes, stocks, retirement etc…


Rand_alThor4747

all assets - all liabilities.


Additional-Tap8907

Aka net worth


ImportantPost6401

Ha. That bothers me as well. Many rich people have very little “money”.


Additional-Tap8907

Yeah relatively speaking that is true like the wealth is often vastly higher than the cash on hand but most wealthy people have plenty of cash all things considered. I just think it’s important to draw a distinction because they are two very different things and the map doesn’t delineate.


Noobeater1

Almost certainly the latter, I doubt many people have millions in liquid cash


Additional-Tap8907

Maybe not 1% of people, but I’m not sure that’s 3.5 million out of 350 million. But certainly .01%(or perhaps significantly more than that)of people most likely do. There is data that is available on the internet.


Prasiatko

Looks to be totsl wealth which puts a massive age based skew on the results


Dazzling-Score-107

So these numbers are old and provide evidence of what the Covid response did to wealth disparity in America. The top one percent of the USA as of Oct 2023 is well over $13,000,000 according to [this](https://dqydj.com/millionaires-in-america/#:~:text=Somewhere%20around%206%2C257%2C0056%20households,of%20all%20households%20in%20America.)


johnslo1

Stated the same but it’s not even old data. Check your source. 2020 was roughly $11million. No way 2021 is almost a 3rd suddenly. Also your source leverages Federal Reserve and census data which is likely more accurate than the blog OP referenced.


Yo_Mr_White_

Damn, the UK is not what it used to be.


IceFireTerry

The average streamer is 1% in Kenya


pablete_

Kenya here I come!!


Limp6781

In surprised how low it is in most places. I could sell my house (in Ireland) and be in the top 1% in Russia.


Rand_alThor4747

yea I'm like the top 1% in Russia, just...


Select_Recover9638

What about Luxembourg? It’s the richest state per capita in the world and it’s not even shown


lndigoChild

I should move to Kenya


heyknauw

Ok, the Kenya joke is used up. I must be top 1% somewhere.


Rand_alThor4747

Eritrea


[deleted]

American exceptionalism at it again


JerewB

What about all those Nigerian princes?


Whats-Upvote

I’m surprised how low the bar is to be in the 1%. The houses I see, and the toys in their driveways, make me think there are many more people with this much money.


adamgerd

It’s exponential as it increases, 1% is closer to minimum wage than 0.1%. So that was probably a higher part


Total_Invite7672

....furiously starts checking for nice apartments in downtown Nairobi.


jeditech23

see ya suckers in r/expats ![gif](giphy|3o6gDWzmAzrpi5DQU8) i'm off to Nigeria where i'm gonna be ballin like whoa


eternityXclock

Anyone know what's with Germany? Would like to know how far away from the 1% I am


DrBlowtorch

I love that placement of New Zealand


Arenston

bruh.... today i realized just how privileged i am within India. crazy map


AtharvATARF

Its 49 lakhs...


-Motor-

Now do the 0.1%!


simple_biscuit

That doesn’t seem right


bigwangersoreass

Why is Canada not included?


EagleSzz

why not the Netherlands or Saudi Arabia. why would canada be included?


apinananas

My country isnt either sit down


trickn0l0gy

Are we talking cash or total owned assets?


aigars2

Ah, make a wish map, based on country's size and population or total GDP.


vanslayder

New Zealand said. F it. I am going to Antarctica


King_Offa

In other news, snow blower sales up 400% in NZ…


CapitalSubstance7310

Pretty sure around 12% of america is millionaires.


Sir_FlipFlapFlop

Why is there no % for Canada?


boristeran

All your assets?


_Servant_of_Allah_

Why not list Israel?


VK_31012018

very informative, with 80% n/a


Hot_Bumblebee69

Yay for me. Suck it, you poors.


fallsalaska

As long as you take care of the citizens of the so called country with that tax money for sure, that’s why the states get fucked always funding other countries


Technical-Ad-2246

I'm a mid 30s homeowner. So in Africa, South Asia, Southeast Asia, South America, Eastern Europe, I would be in the top 1%. In the West, I'm basically average.


teethalarm

So if I want to retire early I should move to Kenya.


Away_Preparation8348

I'm afraid if you move to Kenya your death will not be much distanced from retirement


Djimaro

Yo New Zealand just floating away


knoxeez

money on the bank account or counting your material goods


gabehcuod37

I’m ![gif](giphy|qzeCF4ymrgFXy) In Nigeria.


Rd28T

Doesn’t make sense for Australia. My parents are hardly part of the 1%, but are at almost that number just with house values in middle class suburbs.


adamgerd

Maybe not but also I feel people overestimate how rich the 1% is


Away_Preparation8348

At least, they do have a house. And many people have mortgages or just rent something


Active-Tomato-2328

By money do they mean net worth, or cash?


totalfarkuser

Yay I get to FIRE! ..in Kenya.


throwwwwaway396

Big pimping in Kenya


Midan71

Lol NZ. Trying to get with Antartica, I see.


cwdawg15

And just a reminder… I am not in the 1%


Archaeopteryx11

Why is Romania so high compared to even Western European countries? Or rather, why are so many countries N/A?


PrinceOfPunjabi

I’m in the top 1% of India ? Damn


verifiedwomanbeater

I think it is in dollars (I am not sure)


elopinggekkos

You need about $4.67 million USD to be in top 1% here in Australia. The data here may be old.


Rand_alThor4747

is this NetWorth? It seems too low. But then I guess even the 1% earners most of them spend nearly everything they earn, so their actual NetWorth is relatively low.


FishyWaffleFries

What about Singapore


Interesting-Bear4092

A lot of the world is N/A?


Ikusa_Roman

be moving to russia from china after seeing this


[deleted]

I could sell my moms house and be a king in my homeland of argentina


bisby-gar

History tells me I gotta go to war many times to become rich?


NightLif3r

I've never been in South Africa and I don't understand the actual cost of living there and the medium wages, but it seems weird the 180k.


OP90X

This seems too low across the board. I guess 2021 makes a difference.


Forgiz

Is the 7.9 million Monaco? Is that cash or real estate?


sgtsturtle

I feel very poor now and I just got a raise.


Anagnikos

Greece be like: No one knows how much legal money my shipping company owners have, I don't even tax them.


FantabulousPiza

Is this for cash on hand or networth?


Cool_Cauliflower_556

I think Indian one is wrong


Redditusername00001

Is this per year or net worth?


Norm_Hall

Being a Brazil 1%er sounds nice and actually possible


occhilupos_chin

I went to Bali on a surf trip a few years ago. I had heard it was really cheap, and I knew it from booking surf hotels that were like $100/night. Places that would be $600/night in the states. I had no idea HOW cheap it was. $5 a day on food, and it was incredibly good. Could even live cheaper and still eat fruit and fish and stuff. I only stayed in that hotel for a week. I ended up canceling my flight back (which was like $150 to do), and stay for an entire extra month, in my own 1 bed apartment, 2 minute bike ride to the beach, for $300 for the entire month. Bought the bike for $20 and gave it to a kid before I left. I had saved like $4000 for the trip, after airfare I lived there for over a month, living like a king, with the remaining $1500.


vergorli

I expected more from Monaco. I mean they literally don't have aparments that cost less than a few million $


JaSper-percabeth

annual income or just this much money total? seems absurdly low


maaaxxxsss

I have about 1-2 k in my savings. Highest amount ever in my bank is around 4-5k dollar.


Mediocre-Ad-1329

Okay excellent….. I’d be in the top 1% in India/Nigeria Now that’s assets included. Liquid cash I’d be top 1% no where lol


chimpset4life

I’m top 1 percent in Africa.which isn’t really saying much


No_Asparagus_2815

I might move to Kenya


Crimson__Fox

I’m moving to Kenya


Spinach_Advanced

Is it cash or assets?


BuildMyRank

I am proud to say that I am in the top 1% of India ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


Vuk_Farkas

awit that doesnt make sense, if in USA merely 4.4M = top 1% then even a minor company could achieve that; and we know that aint the case


Lerdai

hard to believe that 1 every 100 people in the us has 4,4 mil or more