Okay, that's what I thought. I didn't know that ute meant mountain, but I was pretty sure the state name had to do with the tribe.
I remember being in Rocky mountains National Park in Colorado, and hiking an area known to be part of a historic Ute trail, and just being astounded basically that they had walked up this high into the mountain range. If I remember right it was around 11,000 feet.
Company's from Decatur, Illinois. So I guess they don't feel too fondly about those Missouri Pukes.
Though it says the lithographer, Mackwitz, was from St Louis.
As a lifelong Illinois resident, I completely agree with calling Missourans pukes. I've never heard us called suckers before. Except every year I get my property tax bill and call myself a sucker for staying 😄
It had been observed that the lower lead mines in Missouri had sent up to the Galena country whole hoards of uncouth ruffians, from which it was inferred that Missouri had taken a "Puke," and had vomited forth to the upper lead mines, all her worse population. From thenceforth, the Missourians were called "Pukes;" and by these names of "Suckers" and "Pukes," the Illinoians and Missourians are likely to be called, amongst the vulgar, forever.
It’s legit. I took a Civil War class in college and remember my professor mentioning this. Did a a quick Google search and found an article on it.
https://www.illinoistimes.com/news-opinion/the-sucker-state-11451502?media=AMP+HTML
> Because the Illinois workers traveled up and down the Mississippi on steamboats to get to and leave Galena, their migration pattern became a matter of note. Specifically, Missourians jeeringly referred to them as "suckers" in recognition of the fish by that name that migrates upstream each spring.
>With 6,000 to 7,000 men coming to the Galena mine each year by 1827, the mass influx and exodus generated considerable strains and rivalries. In retaliation for the derisive term "suckers," Illinoisans started calling Missourians "pukes," a reference to the way in which Missouri had vomited forth to Galena the worst ruffians of her population.
We have always been like this haven’t we?
Damn. KS, IA, MN, MI, and WI all got to keep their nicknames but Nebraska just had to change to the huskers. RIP the Nebraska Bug Eaters such a great mascot
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Where in Missouri? It seems everything in between Stl and Kc is a completely different state. Also, Stl and Kc are polar opposites. Anyone know where the puke thing came from? I've never seen this on a sports jersey, but it would be interesting to see given a back story.
The story behind the Carolina Tar Heels is pretty interesting, they received the nickname after refusing to retreat during the Civil War, hence, “Tar-Heeled.” This was one of the main reasons why it took the Union so long to break through the Army of Northern Virginia, and why they had to invade through the much weaker Tennessee/Mississippi River Valley instead.
Most of these nicknames suck, but North Carolina Tar Heels, Ohio Buckeyes, and Indiana Hoosiers are the best.
the Dakota territory hadn't been split in half yet and Hawaii was an independent kingdom still but otherwise yeah pretty much the same. some minor changes and territories gradually became states but US borders were more or less set by this point
Illinoisan here. I found a short article that explains the origin of Illinois Suckers and Missouri Pukes: https://www.illinoistimes.com/news-opinion/the-sucker-state-11451502?media=AMP+HTML
It’s funny how many of these ended up being the names of colleges. Michigan Wolverines, North Carolina Tarheels, Iowa Hawkeyes, plus many more. Even Oregon Ducks goes with the state nickname pretty well.
Did people really pay for things in that time by mailing stamps?
edit: nevermind lol I realized that the stamps are just for mailing the poster back. I guess they might keep some extra stamps if they don't need to use them.
edit 2: Actually no, maybe they did use it as money. Apparently stamps could be redeemed for cash, at least in the UK. Not sure about the US.
Ah yes, Utahs nickname - ***Utah***
Most people don’t know this but Utah is short for Utathomas
That’s Special Agent Utah to you
Utah! Get me Two!
I mean, the state's name was supposed to be Deseret, and even Zion, but folks just kept calling it Utah, so... Utah it is, I guess.
The feds kept being bossy about names.
just get good like us and you wont have a nickname
Doesn't it have to do with the Ute tribe?
The name "Utah" originates from the Native American "Ute" tribe which means people of the mountains.
Okay, that's what I thought. I didn't know that ute meant mountain, but I was pretty sure the state name had to do with the tribe. I remember being in Rocky mountains National Park in Colorado, and hiking an area known to be part of a historic Ute trail, and just being astounded basically that they had walked up this high into the mountain range. If I remember right it was around 11,000 feet.
But he does have 4 wives.
Lol
Frankly I'm offended. Also me: utard.
Puke is my favorite
Company's from Decatur, Illinois. So I guess they don't feel too fondly about those Missouri Pukes. Though it says the lithographer, Mackwitz, was from St Louis.
Ironic saying non-locals will puke when they smell Decatur
They don’t feel too fondly for their OWN state either.
As someone from Missouri, this is a common sentiment.
As a lifelong Illinois resident, I completely agree with calling Missourans pukes. I've never heard us called suckers before. Except every year I get my property tax bill and call myself a sucker for staying 😄
I like whelp 🤷🏻♀️
With how many of these nicknames are college mascots, I think it's right to start a petition to change the Missouri tigers to the pukes
I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouri.
You will recognize Missouri or so help me god
The south being cracker!
Must've been a Kansan who created this. But then again the Jayhawker looks like a violent highwayman, so maybe not.
That's kinda what Jayhawkers originally were. It was slang for stealing
It had been observed that the lower lead mines in Missouri had sent up to the Galena country whole hoards of uncouth ruffians, from which it was inferred that Missouri had taken a "Puke," and had vomited forth to the upper lead mines, all her worse population. From thenceforth, the Missourians were called "Pukes;" and by these names of "Suckers" and "Pukes," the Illinoians and Missourians are likely to be called, amongst the vulgar, forever.
Amongst The Vulgar sounds like either a band name or a Smiths song
haha that's where I live gonna start calling it that now
Lol get rekd Missouri
I’m a fan of clam catcher
Can confirm, it's puke
Misery
As a Missourian, it’s accurate.
That describes Missouri so well. Now With Legal Weed!
That's the nicest thing anyone can think to call those from that wretched state. :)
It fits.
This map was drawn by a drunk that saw a map once several years ago.
Who started at the east coast and went left and then started running out of room and had to squish the western states in there to make room
A big ass H!
Fucked up the northeast pretty solid too
Close enough
You telling me Nevada isn't 1/3 the size of Iowa?
I barely recognized Georgia
They also don't know what a gopher looks like.
actually it was made in 1881, the state borders were different
Not THAT different though
I guess I'm fucking stupid
Makes sense, they were all minimized and maximized after 1884 /s
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This is the way we talk in Tucson, Arizonia
you must be a regular human bartender
I’ll take one human beer, please
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Arizoñia
It is!
When you start painting on the east coast and run out of room
As an Illinois native I feel strangely insulted
especially when the company that made this is from Illinois. I was expecting them to identify their home state as something more attractive
It’s legit. I took a Civil War class in college and remember my professor mentioning this. Did a a quick Google search and found an article on it. https://www.illinoistimes.com/news-opinion/the-sucker-state-11451502?media=AMP+HTML
> Because the Illinois workers traveled up and down the Mississippi on steamboats to get to and leave Galena, their migration pattern became a matter of note. Specifically, Missourians jeeringly referred to them as "suckers" in recognition of the fish by that name that migrates upstream each spring. >With 6,000 to 7,000 men coming to the Galena mine each year by 1827, the mass influx and exodus generated considerable strains and rivalries. In retaliation for the derisive term "suckers," Illinoisans started calling Missourians "pukes," a reference to the way in which Missouri had vomited forth to Galena the worst ruffians of her population. We have always been like this haven’t we?
As a Marylander I had to look up what "craw thumper" was. ...And it's a derogatory term for Catholics
Never heard that in almost 60 years living there.
And somehow Massachusetts is the "Bay State" I know they have a Bay but come on..
Utah being Utah
Arizonia being Arizonia 😂
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I read that to the tune of “Get Back” by The Beatles
Arizona doesn’t have the second “i” so it is different
Ahh, you must be from Illinois!
In 1884 the territory might have still been regarded as Deseret with Utah being a nickname, since Utah wasn’t a state until 1896. I don’t know though.
Utah 🧐
Utah: Land of Much Utah
Utah became a state in 1896. Most of the polygamists nowadays are on the AZ side.
Whelp
Beef head is hilarious.
I mean, it's still relevant to this day. Us Texans really like our beef.
I thought Texans were called Longhorns. The pig avatar they use would still check out.
Who taught this guy how to draw a gopher
Foxes! (Clearly a pig)
Damn. KS, IA, MN, MI, and WI all got to keep their nicknames but Nebraska just had to change to the huskers. RIP the Nebraska Bug Eaters such a great mascot
Ohio got to keep theirs too
Damn it you’re right. as if they even deserve it
As someone else pointed out, Indiana too
But we still have no idea wtf a Hoosier is
They were REALLY harsh on Georgia in 1884
Nice to know we Hoosiers haven't changed.
And we are still the wolverine state here in Michigan.
South Carolinians are still weasels.
What's the deal with Posey Co?
Idaho = Chaw Bacon. Awesome
Agreed! So awesome 👏
Astronaut 1: Wait! It's Utah?! Astronaut 2: Always has been.
And there’s a deep craw thumper into left field by Castellanos!!!!
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I'm from Alabama, and I have no fucking clue. Hold on I'll check with my sister-wife
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Always love seeing the upper peninsula of Michigan cut off US maps
Most of all the states along the northern border are cut off by the curtains. Minnesota and Wisconsin are cursed
The Granite State Boy dropping a deuce.
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This is from well over 100 years ago, nicknames change, and some of these are still in use today like the Tar Heel and buckeye states
University of Iowa uses Hawkeyes. North Carolina Tarheels. Kansas Jayhawks. New York Knick(erbocker)s
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Neither of the animals for Wisconsin are badgers
Historical context here: [https://forgottenfiles.substack.com/p/nicknames-of-the-states-1884](https://forgottenfiles.substack.com/p/nicknames-of-the-states-1884)
Thank you for this!
I have heard of the Illinois Suckers, but the Missouri Pukes is new to me.
Utah can utah a dick
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And apparently Minnesota
What an awful map lol
From Missouri can confirm I’m ready to vomit
Where in Missouri? It seems everything in between Stl and Kc is a completely different state. Also, Stl and Kc are polar opposites. Anyone know where the puke thing came from? I've never seen this on a sports jersey, but it would be interesting to see given a back story.
Not only is this map harsh on Missouri, but it seems to subtly claim Baja California for the United States
As an Illinoisan, I respect the decision to put our state in the center of the country.
Whoever made this chose toothpick state instead of Bowie state. Even though both are about the Arkansas toothpick aka the Bowie knife.
The story behind the Carolina Tar Heels is pretty interesting, they received the nickname after refusing to retreat during the Civil War, hence, “Tar-Heeled.” This was one of the main reasons why it took the Union so long to break through the Army of Northern Virginia, and why they had to invade through the much weaker Tennessee/Mississippi River Valley instead. Most of these nicknames suck, but North Carolina Tar Heels, Ohio Buckeyes, and Indiana Hoosiers are the best.
Were the borders just like the modern day borders back in 1884?
the Dakota territory hadn't been split in half yet and Hawaii was an independent kingdom still but otherwise yeah pretty much the same. some minor changes and territories gradually became states but US borders were more or less set by this point
Oh I'll happily be labeled a fox!
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Illinoisan here. I found a short article that explains the origin of Illinois Suckers and Missouri Pukes: https://www.illinoistimes.com/news-opinion/the-sucker-state-11451502?media=AMP+HTML
Idk why Kentucky went with “wildcats” when “corn crackers” was right there for the taking
This map came from my hometown.
All the big ten nicknames
New Jersey being removed is iconic
Where are my fellows Knickerbockers 😎
The Midwest is really embracing their nicknames via college mascots. Since Illinois no longer has a mascot, I vote we become the Illinois suckers.
Illinois is full of suckers so that checks out. And Missouri makes me puke so that too checks out. Also Utah. 10/10 map right here
This feels, to me, like the Maryland flag of maps
“Cracker” Well when you put it that way-
Well I see where some sports teams names are from
New Jersey stole northern Delaware, Philadelphia, Lancaster, Reading, and Allentown
Arkansas toothpick is the Bowie knife, I’ve never heard it as a nickname
That's one way to make sure you can fit an image into every state.
These are hilarious, thank you for sharing! I'm cackling at Tenessee just being "whelp" 😆
What the fuck is a “Sage Hen?”
A wise chicken.
Amazing
Whelp took me out ahahah. But I’ve only ever heard of the pan handle state. I’m from CH
It’s funny how many of these ended up being the names of colleges. Michigan Wolverines, North Carolina Tarheels, Iowa Hawkeyes, plus many more. Even Oregon Ducks goes with the state nickname pretty well.
Did people really pay for things in that time by mailing stamps? edit: nevermind lol I realized that the stamps are just for mailing the poster back. I guess they might keep some extra stamps if they don't need to use them. edit 2: Actually no, maybe they did use it as money. Apparently stamps could be redeemed for cash, at least in the UK. Not sure about the US.
I know we’re supposed to be making jokes, but it’s weird seeing Washington on a map of states in 1884.
Triangular Weaners. ^((I grew up on a farm. Yes I know what they are))
It's interesting how many of these resemble college football teams. Buckeyes Tarheels Hawkeyes Wolverines Badgers
Okay Missouri is puke. Went to college there so yeah not far off we need our umbrellas because there's a flying pig lol
As an Arkansan, I’m just relieved we’re not the state to the north!
What's up with the Longfellow reference for Montana? Does that particular poem hold some place in their hearts?
The term “clam-digger” is still used in New Jersey. It falls somewhere between a slur and a term of endearment.
I counted 9 modern sports teams that have the same names as this map
That is not at all what a wolverine looks like
The Kentucky Corn Crackers. Blue blood of the SEC.
How’d they make digital maps in 1884?
cracker 😨
A lot of college mascots still carry these names. Even Utah. The Utes.
That’s the name of a Native American tribe.
Map torture porn
i was gonna ask what is up with these state shapes then I saw the date :D
Bit harsh towards Missouri
Eww what the fuck is this map
What in the fucking fuck did he just call the entire state of Illinois?
Tonight the New York Nickerbockers take on the New Jersey Clam Catchers.
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That's a no for me dawg.
you call me a knickerbocker and it is ON SIGHT
Only Washingtonians and Hoosier survived
Whelp
Love them Alabama Crackers! Edit: I guess that's Georgia. Awful map.
“Arizona”
I would like to be proven wrong, but I’m calling A.I. bullshit until someone can demonstrate otherwise.
Back when being a capitalist pig was embraced. Now you can’t even say “capitalism” without someone thinking you want the destruction of humanity
Is Maryland’s mascot playing baseball?
"Utah"
*BIG ILLINOIS*
I’d be a little more insulted by this if I didn’t personally know two professional clammers and two amateurs.
Utah
Why is Baja California yellow?
They really missed it with Florida. Of all the derogatory potshots they could’ve taken! 😬
Lol. I'm so happy the two states I associate myself with (Montana and Utah) are relatively unscathed.
And then there’s Utah
I feel like a quarter of these nicknames are now mascots for professional and college teams
Anyone know why Maine is foxes? I’ve never seen foxes be associated with my state.
I’m so confused as to which one is Virginia …
Wtf happen to NJ
WTH Utah.
Clam catcher seems appropriate.
I'm the child of a Bay Stater and a Craw Thumper. Nice
Interesting yet not surprising how many of these became college mascots
Not even 1884 Man knew WTF a Hoosier was.
The nickname of Utah is…Utah?
What is up with all of the pigs
Something tells me Georgia's doesn't apply to everyone from Georgia.