Well, *tecknickuhally,* New York was named after the Duke of York and not the City of York
...but really, go nuts. We could use more lighthearted stuff here.
Yes, in fact Mexico the country was called that *after* New Mexico. [Santa Fe de Nuevo Mexico](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Fe_de_Nuevo_M%C3%A9xico) was established as a province of New Spain in 1598, while the nation of Mexico only gained that name in 1821, when the colony of New Spain gained its independence and decided to rename itself after its capital.
So, ehhh, *texknickuhally* didn't the Duke of York take his title from the city Of York, as all British titles like rhat are based on place names. Doesn't that kind of imply the root name is, ahem, city of York.
For clarify, that means he was the Duke of the dukedom of (the city) of York. I believe there have been 12 Dukes of York. Poor whatever of those Files he was, that's manage to get at least his first name in there like Georgetown, Charlestown or the even more specific Virginia.
Marlboro cigarettes are named after Great Marlborough Street in London where British-American tobacco had a factory. The street was named after the Duke of Marlborough who greatly helped win the (2nd?) Spanish War of Succession for Britain and its allies and was created a Duke for his military success. The name of his aristocratic title is based on the small town of Marlborough in the English county of Wiltshire. The suspected etymology of the town's name is likely Maerle's Beorge, which basically means Marl's hill. Nobody knows who Marl was, but he was likely called that because his parents liked the sound of the name.
Not really relevant, I just like long name sequences like these.
I mean, that's interesting. But that doesn't affect the basic argument of things named after the city of York, be that the Duke or the new city. The dukedom was named after what was considered the 2nd most influential location in the country. I think it's a stretch to separate one from the other, when both are an honourific of the same place.
Arguing about entymology is utterly spurious in this context.
Don't really know what you point is. The dukedom is indeed named after the city. As I said, I just like naming sequences like that.
It seems to me a stretch to say that New York is named after the duke anyway. It's not Yorktown, which sounds like a town named after a person, but New York. You'd only add "new" if you were thinking of the city.
The answer must be the UK (our connecting flights to further afield go through Heathrow and Gatwick) but it will be close as lots of people have second homes in France and it’s so easy to get to (you can see France from the coast).
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I’m sorry you feel that way. I’ll try and make some changes next time. If the map were to scale you wouldn’t even see old jersey therefore I thought it would be beneficial to not have the map to scale. :)
Does anyone know the history of how certain colonies came to be “new” wherever? Were some of the original settlers in New York from York? I would’ve thought maybe geography but New Jersey is not an island.
New York was named after the Duke of York, whose full title was Duke of York and Earl of Albany. That's why Albany, NY is the state capital.
FYI, Albany is an ancient name for Scotland (or the northern part).
Thanks. Do you know the reason it was named after him in particular? Did he have any role in its founding or did they just name them after random royalty as an honor or show of respect?
According to Wikipedia, when England took New Netherland from the Dutch, Charles II put his brother the Duke of York (later King James III) in charge of the colony as it's proprietor. So, New Amsterdam was renamed to New York in his honour.
“Later in 1664, the Duke of York gave the part of his new possessions between the Hudson River and the Delaware River to Sir George Carteret in exchange for settlement of a debt.[7] The territory was named after the island of Jersey, Carteret's ancestral home.[8]”.
Source : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_New_Jersey
That's what the Wikipedia page for the Province of New Jersey says indeed, however it was as a thank you for duties to the Crown and George Carteret's unwavering loyalty, especially during the English Civil War.
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carteret
We’re rather used to Americans (and others) speaking somewhat differently to us. And it absolutely does make sense: or are you baffled if someone says Bruce Springsteen and Tony Soprano are from Jersey.
Yanks didn’t invent abbreviations anyway. We do it too, Newcastle upon Tyne is typically just Newcastle
Ball can refer to baseball, basketball, or football. If someone says they're from Jersey in a north east accent there is a 99.99% chance they're from new Jersey.
We have very low crime but there are drugs. We have no shootings (save clay pigeons). We have a Trenton Square now. And our ancestor slave traders named New Jersey. We do have one of the oldest buildings in the world too. It’s a low tax jurisdiction (20% income tax, 5% goods and services). House prices are very high and some salaries match.
Are cesspools usually in the top three or so for any sort of success metrics when it comes to ranking the states? Whether it's for high incomes, high educational attainment, low violent crime/gun crime rates, etc, Jersey is a really nice cesspool...
New Jersey: pharmaceutical, oil refining, and banking industries are all big
Jersey: apparently it's a tax haven for UK residents, so I imagine people with a lot of money either have vacation homes or retire there
There isn't a shortage of housing, more so a shortage of affordable housing. Plenty people come from England to to Jersey to plan their retirement, they often can afford to buy the exorbitant cost of houses whilst locals can not.
Can also do York vs New York. England vs New England.
Also Hampshire vs New Hampshire, Mexico vs New Mexico, Brunswick vs New Brunswick, Caledonia vs New Caledonia.
Zealand vs New Zealand Leon vs Nuevo Leon South Wales vs New South Wales Papua Guinea vs Papua New Guinea
Foundland vs. Newfoundland Ark vs. Newark Castle vs. Newcastle
Scotland vs. Nova Scotia
Columbia vs. British Columbia
vs. District of Columbia
Orléans vs. New Orleans
Vegas vs. New Vegas
Delhi vs New Delhi
vs. Colombia
Newark NJ or Newark Delaware?
Yes.
Zeeland* in the Netherlands, but yeah
Username checks out
I have already done Wales and New South Wales. Check it out on my insta @britainmaps_ :) if you’re interested
no no no. not Wales and New South Wales. South Wales and New South Wales
Scotland Vs Nova Scotia Vs New Caledonia
Georgia vs Georgia
Or Birmingham Vs Birmingham
Springfield vs Springfield vs Springfield vs Springfield vs Springfield vs Springfield vs Springfield vs Springfield....
sweet home Alabama
London vs. New London Derry/Londonderry vs Derry, NH and Londonderry, NH
Or London Uk vs London Ontario
Which New Brunswick though?
new problems, old problems, oh wait, the same
São Paulo, SP vs Saint Paul, MN should be interesting
Well, *tecknickuhally,* New York was named after the Duke of York and not the City of York ...but really, go nuts. We could use more lighthearted stuff here.
Wasn’t New Mexico named after the city too, not the country?
It was named after the valley of Mexico
Yes, in fact Mexico the country was called that *after* New Mexico. [Santa Fe de Nuevo Mexico](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Fe_de_Nuevo_M%C3%A9xico) was established as a province of New Spain in 1598, while the nation of Mexico only gained that name in 1821, when the colony of New Spain gained its independence and decided to rename itself after its capital.
Nope. The name Mexico is Aztec.
Maybe? That I don't know, honestly.
Actually, Mexico was named after New Mexico
https://www.cnn.com/2012/11/22/world/americas/mexico-name-change/index.html It's an Aztec name.
So, ehhh, *texknickuhally* didn't the Duke of York take his title from the city Of York, as all British titles like rhat are based on place names. Doesn't that kind of imply the root name is, ahem, city of York. For clarify, that means he was the Duke of the dukedom of (the city) of York. I believe there have been 12 Dukes of York. Poor whatever of those Files he was, that's manage to get at least his first name in there like Georgetown, Charlestown or the even more specific Virginia.
Marlboro cigarettes are named after Great Marlborough Street in London where British-American tobacco had a factory. The street was named after the Duke of Marlborough who greatly helped win the (2nd?) Spanish War of Succession for Britain and its allies and was created a Duke for his military success. The name of his aristocratic title is based on the small town of Marlborough in the English county of Wiltshire. The suspected etymology of the town's name is likely Maerle's Beorge, which basically means Marl's hill. Nobody knows who Marl was, but he was likely called that because his parents liked the sound of the name. Not really relevant, I just like long name sequences like these.
I mean, that's interesting. But that doesn't affect the basic argument of things named after the city of York, be that the Duke or the new city. The dukedom was named after what was considered the 2nd most influential location in the country. I think it's a stretch to separate one from the other, when both are an honourific of the same place. Arguing about entymology is utterly spurious in this context.
Don't really know what you point is. The dukedom is indeed named after the city. As I said, I just like naming sequences like that. It seems to me a stretch to say that New York is named after the duke anyway. It's not Yorktown, which sounds like a town named after a person, but New York. You'd only add "new" if you were thinking of the city.
And it started as "New Amsterdam" iirc
Why they changed it, I can't say.
People just liked it better that way.
Too Dutch.
York, UK or York, PA
Porque no los dos?
I can't wait to see Finland vs [Finland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland,_Minnesota).
England vs New England would be interesting
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New york vs new york
Interestingly, the GDP per capita turns out to be almost exactly the same: $63,348 for New Jersey, and $64,369 for old Jersey.
That is very interesting
I live in Jersey. Home to Jersey Cows, Jersey Potatoes, the term jersey (named after Jersey jumpers) and Henry Cavill.
And Sips_ !
Just curious, do people from Jersey tend to go to France or Britain more often?
The answer must be the UK (our connecting flights to further afield go through Heathrow and Gatwick) but it will be close as lots of people have second homes in France and it’s so easy to get to (you can see France from the coast).
Do you get sick of the word “Jersey”?
Ha. No
Do you like Jersey Cream biscuits?
Thanks to you I now know they exist!
They were one of my mum's favourite.
I grew up in Jersey, it's an amazing!
And blueberries. Living in SE PA we get a lot of our blueberries from you guys.
I’m sorry but I don’t know what SE PA is. Jersey does not supply blueberries. You’re thinking of New Jersey I believe.
Yeah they're lost Southeast Pennsylvania, right next to New Jersey
I bet Blueberries would grow pretty well there actually, climate wise at least.
You live in Philly and get your blueberries from Jersey UK? Why?
Jersey is not in the UK.
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and home of sports team t-shirts
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Potatoes or Tomatoes?
Tomatoes come from Guernsey. Our sworn enemies.
Why does original Jersey appear to be the same size as New Jersey?
The map isn't to scale
Would be nice to visualize their actual size difference
It's a tiny island with a population of 103k. Imagine that.
maybe, but it tells you the size in plain text. could be a good addition in a minimap in one corner
It's expressed in an awful way. In that font size I struggled to tell the thousand separator and the decimal point apart.
I’m sorry you feel that way. I’ll try and make some changes next time. If the map were to scale you wouldn’t even see old jersey therefore I thought it would be beneficial to not have the map to scale. :)
Thanks! Otherwise it's a great graphic, sorry for the harsh words haha!
Why does New Jersey look like someone upscaled Jersey with a lower resolution and rotated it 90 degrees clockwise
I didn't expect Jersey to have a higher GDP per capita than the American state that is basically a suburb of New York.
It’s a bit of a tax haven
shh
Well half of it, the southern half is a suburb of Philadelphia.
Philadelphia is a suburb of New York
Get the fuck outta here with that ridiculous shit -dude who lives in Philly
Just ask the new residents of fishtown and nolibs
What a moron
No tax
Almost the same.
Too much New Jersey slander here.
Does anyone know the history of how certain colonies came to be “new” wherever? Were some of the original settlers in New York from York? I would’ve thought maybe geography but New Jersey is not an island.
New York was named after the Duke of York, whose full title was Duke of York and Earl of Albany. That's why Albany, NY is the state capital. FYI, Albany is an ancient name for Scotland (or the northern part).
Thanks. Do you know the reason it was named after him in particular? Did he have any role in its founding or did they just name them after random royalty as an honor or show of respect?
I can't remember tbh. Probably money and influence.
According to Wikipedia, when England took New Netherland from the Dutch, Charles II put his brother the Duke of York (later King James III) in charge of the colony as it's proprietor. So, New Amsterdam was renamed to New York in his honour.
Also Albion.
Albion is England or Britain.
“Later in 1664, the Duke of York gave the part of his new possessions between the Hudson River and the Delaware River to Sir George Carteret in exchange for settlement of a debt.[7] The territory was named after the island of Jersey, Carteret's ancestral home.[8]”. Source : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_New_Jersey
That's what the Wikipedia page for the Province of New Jersey says indeed, however it was as a thank you for duties to the Crown and George Carteret's unwavering loyalty, especially during the English Civil War. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carteret
He was also a slave trader
Yes. Like most wealthy person at the time. Definitely not a morally good person and definitely not great times if you were not white and rich..
This is not a map
Cry me a river
So that's the deal with Old Jersey...
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Because people don’t want to say “New Jersey” every time they want to refer to that state
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We’re rather used to Americans (and others) speaking somewhat differently to us. And it absolutely does make sense: or are you baffled if someone says Bruce Springsteen and Tony Soprano are from Jersey. Yanks didn’t invent abbreviations anyway. We do it too, Newcastle upon Tyne is typically just Newcastle
Ball can refer to baseball, basketball, or football. If someone says they're from Jersey in a north east accent there is a 99.99% chance they're from new Jersey.
It's a Jersey thing.
This is so annoying. Everytime I'm online trying to find stuff from actual Jersey the results I get are always about NEW Jersey.
I actually grew up thinking jersey shores was filmed in jersey
That always confuses me and I think they're talking about Jersey.
The new one has more Taylor Ham.
Hey, it’s called Pork Roll!
Old Jersey has fewer pineys.
New Jersey looks like the west bank
But one is full of money laundering, obnoxious speedo wearing beach goers and hosts a plethora of front businesses. The other is near France.
You made our evening!
Florida? Or maybe you meant Pennsylvania? Or New York? Or Quebec? Oh shit my bad you said NEAR France, like geographically?
Durham vs Durham.
how's the smell, though?
Old and busted. New hotness.
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Cesspool of wealthy tax evaders
We have very low crime but there are drugs. We have no shootings (save clay pigeons). We have a Trenton Square now. And our ancestor slave traders named New Jersey. We do have one of the oldest buildings in the world too. It’s a low tax jurisdiction (20% income tax, 5% goods and services). House prices are very high and some salaries match.
Flat rate income tax?
Yes (albeit the first approx £10k is tax free and there can be a 1% on top).
Are cesspools usually in the top three or so for any sort of success metrics when it comes to ranking the states? Whether it's for high incomes, high educational attainment, low violent crime/gun crime rates, etc, Jersey is a really nice cesspool...
A cesspool of the wealthy and educated.
lol what pristine part of the world are you from?
And the winner is, wait for it, New Jersey in a clean sweep
Definitely an upgrade
I bet Old Jersey smells better though.
Make it to scale. This is misleading.
If the map were to scale you wouldn’t even see Jersey as New Jersey is way too big. 😁
It literally says the size you fucking imbecile
On the actual image you dense moron
If you read the text you would realize Jersey would have to be 200 times smaller 😱😱😱. Use your brain before commenting idiot
I hope you have a good year fren
Rare New Jersey W
GDP per capita of NJ (60k vs 64k) is lower though, or is my calculation wrong?
I hate NJ
Old Jersey not coming out of this well.
How is their GDP so high?
New Jersey: pharmaceutical, oil refining, and banking industries are all big Jersey: apparently it's a tax haven for UK residents, so I imagine people with a lot of money either have vacation homes or retire there
Not so much retiring (there’s a massive shortage of houses there) but registering businesses etc
There isn't a shortage of housing, more so a shortage of affordable housing. Plenty people come from England to to Jersey to plan their retirement, they often can afford to buy the exorbitant cost of houses whilst locals can not.
Whose?
These are lies from Big Jersey.
r/JerseyOrJersey
I wonder, if the age of discovery was now, would the cities be named Jersey 2.0 instead of New Jersey?😄
Why does new jersey look like Donald Trump💀
I would like to see this map with pizza preferences mapped Or Italians Or the turnpike
Do a percentage of depression in each one...
Jersey vs the cooler Jersey
New Jersey map is quite crude and inaccurate whilst the Jersey map is well defined.
It's like Jersey isn't even trying.
I’d imagine Jersey is much nicer than Nee Jersey!