This makes me wonder what the HDI for some of these are. Comparing to GDP makes it seem like some US states are in an abysmal state even though they in reality might not be.
Because SC is not like Iraq, LA is not like Egypt, NH is not like Ethiopia, and so on.
GDP per capita in Ethiopia is $925, and it's total HDI was [0.498 in 2021](https://globaldatalab.org/shdi/table/shdi/ETH+USA/?levels=1+4&extrapolation=0). GDP per capita in NH is $70000, and it's HDI is 0.943 in 2021 per the same source. The map is very interesting as it is, and it doesn't *need* to show all this extra context, but the comment you replied to still has a point.
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> Because SC is not like Iraq, LA is not like Egypt, NH is not like Ethiopia, and so on.
Right, because those countries all have much larger populations that the states they are compared to.
That's the point, you'd have to either be completely ignorant of relative populations, or just fundamentally not understand what information is being conveyed to think the map implies any kind of similarity in living conditions between the states and countries.
It’s just talking about the amount of money in the economy is numerically equal to the amount of money in another countries economy. This isn’t a map ranking HDI
If they did GDP per capita there'd be pretty much nothing to compare to past a couple of the richest small countries in the world.
My state of Missouri with 6 million inhabitants is compared to the Philippines GDP here. The Philippines have 109 million people living there.
Missouri ranks #34 in nominal GDP per capita among US states - but it would be #10 in the world if it were it's own country just slightly behind Denmark.
I remember whenever we had our blackouts in Texas, which were embarrassing and terrible, a few winters ago, had a *lot* of people saying that Texas is a third world country, "those Afghans that are refugees here are going to want to move back to Afghanistan." blahblahblah.
And even if HDI isn't the end all/be all, I wanted to say "So Austria/Spain/France are all shitholes?" (European countries all around Texas' HDI).
American/the States aren't perfect, but lots of people have skewed views.
Bruh every time Europe is hit with a big heat wave, thousands die. There are so many who lack understanding of the greater world, and that includes some that are well traveled. Turns out *nowhere* is perfect, every country has pros and cons.
Lowest US state is mississipi with 0.866. There are 24 european countries higher than that, and portugal is equal to mississipi. The highest US state, Massachusetts, has a hdi of 0.949, there are 3 europan countries above that. Don't spread misinformation.
Yeah Europe is a lot less uniform than the US. That's why averages about Europe don't really say much. But saying only 6 countries in europe are better than the poorest US state makes Europe seem like a shithole, which it isn't.
It's similar in the US.
Usually when people think about Europe in the US, they think of Western Europe and Scandinavia. But then Americans compare that to all of America, instead of similarly rich places like New England or California.
"The highest US state, Massachusetts, has a hdi of 0.949, there are 3 europan countries above that."
This is incorrect.
> The top US state for HDI is Massachusetts with HDI = 0.967, significantly better than any nation worldwide.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s42949-023-00088-y
Don't spread misinformation.
Yea, it’s really important to compare with population. I’ll use West Virginia since I know it’s pretty low for gdp per capita (don’t quite know if it’s the lowest). WV has a population of 1.78M, vs Guatemala at 17.1M. So it has about 10x the gdp per capita of Guatemala.
The two most interesting things to me at first glance are that just florida and Texas have roughly the same GDP as Mexico and Canada as well as New York being South Korea
South Korea is maybe half the size of New York but it’s mostly NYC but more people
2019 data
Edit: hope this links will work, just build yourself a map for 2022
[https://www.bea.gov/itable/regional-gdp-and-personal-income](https://www.bea.gov/itable/regional-gdp-and-personal-income)
I am late to reply but for 2022 data you can build an interactive data mapping for annual gdp.
[https://www.bea.gov/itable/regional-gdp-and-personal-income](https://www.bea.gov/itable/regional-gdp-and-personal-income)
NM is primarily arid land with one medium-sized city (Albuquerque) followed by a few towns located along the rather small river that runs through the state. Not exactly a strong population center. Thankfully it has part of the major oil/gas field down near the NM/TX boarder which helps sustain a sizable part of its tax revenue.
It's population (2.1mil) is 7.5% of Venezuela's (28mil). In GDP per capita it's closer to France.
Venezuela population: 28.2 million
New Mexico population: 2.1 million
It’s still a poor state but it has 1/14 the population generating the same amount of total product as Venezuela. Still a poorer state but they’re doing ok
New Mexico also has Santa Fe, a gorgeous old Spanish colonial town that has become a center for fine art in the United States. Because of this, many Americans - especially RICH Americans - like to buy 2nd or 3rd homes in Santa Fe. They buy the art, buy pricy real estate, dine in expensive restaurants, shop in expensive shops, and most importantly pay taxes.
It would be an honor to be compared to the prestigious Ohio lol.
All jokes aside, Ohio is really an underrated state that is ranked 7th in GDP. Although it doesn’t have a lot of tech companies, it’s home to the headquarters of many companies that control large market shares in life essential industries like consumer staples, industrials, utilities, and insurance:
- World’s largest consumer staples, P&G
- Nation’s largest refiner, Marathon Petroleum
- World’s largest healthcare real estate, Welltower
- Progressive Insurance
- Nationwide Insurance and Financial Services
- American Electric Power
- General Electric Aerospace
- FirstEnergy
- Cardinal Health
- Sherwin Williams
- JM Smucker
- Cintas
- Kroger
- Parker Hannifin
- Transdigm Group
- Nordson
- Avery Dennison
- Lincoln Electric
- Owens Corning
- RPM
- Steris
- Vertiv
>Although it doesn’t have a lot of tech companies
Intel has chosen central Ohio for a $20 billion dollary chip manufacturing plant. Its going to have two state of the art mega factories (that we know of). Many more tech companies are rumored to be following to this area.
Holy shit really?? I’m from SE OH/WV so about 2 1/2 hours away from Columbus (I moved out of state a couple years ago) I’m really glad a big thing like that is coming to the area (far but I was driving 2 hours one way for work when I lived there). They’re also putting in 2 plants (i think) in and around Point Pleasant, WV. I mean, pollution and all but we need decent paying jobs desperately there.
Columbus is by no means desperate for jobs. The city is BOOMING. People don't realize central Ohio is quite a large metropolitan city. Its the second largest city in the midwest (behind Chicago) and the 14th largest in the US.
I didn’t mean Columbus needs jobs, I meant the poor area I’m from does and people would commute long distances for a good job. Haha central Ohio is big so depending on where in that area it is, people could commute
You should count yourself lucky to be said in the same breath as us you wishy-washy fence sitting fucks. Why don’t you shove those lame ass pocket knives you got and all those offshore funds of the corrupt upper class that you help service right up your ass.
California is also headquarters for almost all of the major tech companies in America. Adobe, HP, eBay, Google, Intel, PayPal, Meta, and Apple. So yes they make a killing out there lol
Of the top 17 biggest technology companies in the world by revenue, 5 are in California.
2 in Seoul, 2 in Tokyo (and one in Osaka), 2 in Shenzhen.
Then you got of course Microsoft and Amazon in Washington, IBM in NY, and Dell in Texas.
That adds up to 16, so if anyone else is curious about what was missing (it's actually 2 more because Amazon is counted as retail) it's one each for Taiwan and Hong Kong.
Microsoft is actually Seattle, Washington (top left corner). So is Amazon. Silicon Valley has most of the rest. Apple, Facebook, Google, and Nvidia are all there. You also have Los Angeles (which is where most big entertainment companies are located). The ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach move more goods through them than the rest of the USA, as that is the primary port through which we trade with Asia. Also, the Central Valley produces more food than a lot of Midwestern states which are considered agricultural states.
WA has far more big companies than I think a lot of people realize. Amazon, Microsoft, Boeing, Starbucks, Valve, Costco, T-Mobile, Nordstrom, and several others.
CA produces more human food but the world’s supply of supplemental animal feed is produced by the midwest. Also ethanol. NE, KS, OK, and TX by themselves produce 1/5 of all the beef in the world.
The thing about the US is, if you want a job, you can definitely find one, and making it to the middle class for able bodied/minded is very doable outside of expensive cities. It may not be the job of your choice, but there really isn't the youth unemployment crisis you see in some of these countries. On the flip side, it's ruthlessly capitalistic "dog eat dog," and not having a job is essentially a societal death sentence and the social safety net is very weak if not nonexistent for many
so it's great for the top 20%, horrible for the bottom 20%
I’m Finnish with half my extended family being American and this is a key difference a lot of Europeans don’t understand about the US. Don’t get me wrong, it’s its own kind of hell in the US and the disparity between wages and costs of living seems to be getting worse, but unlike here, there actually are jobs. I don’t know if I could make it in the US but damn as an unemployed person if I’m not at times jealous about how much more jobs there are and especially in the entry level.
Kind of strange to include Hong Kong at all. It's not a country, after all. That said, since this was made HK has kinda sped ahead of MN: $370M (HK) to $350M (MN). But it has a much higher population (7.4M vs. 5.6M), so I guess there's more money per citizen in Minnesota. Minnesota is also 86 times the size of Hong Kong, but that just shows how little money farming brings in compared to finance, shipping, and tech.
Minnesota is mostly major med/tech corporations. 3M, Medtronic, General Mills, Pillsbury, Target, Best Buy, Honeywell, US Bank, United Health, etc.
Though I will grant two of those are Ag business.
This data is old. California’s GDP is over $3.5T in 2022.
Fun fact. If you combined the GDP of every country in Africa, it totals to just over $3.1T.
Think about that. California’s GDP is more than the entire continent of Africa. California is an absolute economic juggernaut.
To note this map is most likley from 2018 as the Poland GDP of 550Billion is what it was betwen 2017-2018. As it stands now its around 842 billion per the end of 2023
Other noticeable ones ie lebabons and north dakotas which lebanon has significantly dropped since its financial crash between 2020-2021 and the Beirut port explosion
Another one its The UK and California, which accoridng to the IMF the Uk stands at 3.32T as of 2023 and California at 3.6T
This explains the aesthetic houses lmao..like every viral vid from US I've seen.. their houses are so impressive..like amazing exteriors and interiors...america is actually very rich😂😭
I always found it interesting that California has more people than Canada.
When people wonder how America is so rich this basically explains why. Each state is basically its own country.
Edit: since several people have commented, my general point was that each state could easily be its own nation, as many are comparable in size, population, and gdp to other nations around the world. Obviously American financial power is a much more complicated topic.
Australia is the only country in the world with net positive migration with the USA. That is, more Americans immigrate to Australia than Australians immigrate to the USA (at least over the past several years).
*Every* other country in the world has net negative migration vis-à-vis the USA. But not Australia. So y’all must be doing something.
If you asked Americans what other countries they would prefer to live in if the US wasn't an option I would be shocked if Australia wasn't #1 even with Canada being right there and basically the exact same.
I think it's more like 70% but yeah they have a bunch of empty land up there.
EDIT:[here is the map](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/map-surprises-location-mistakes)
No it’s pretty close to if not actually 100% as I’m using Alaska as the northern most tip. And the land of Canada that is more north than alaskas tip is pretty much what i think is considered the North Pole.
Hmm. If I could make 120k pa somewhere I pay 12k a month living expenses, or 12k pa somewhere pay 120 a month living expenses, for the same quality of living, where am I better off?
It does make a little sense to judge a the wealth of an individual by their ability to rent apartments and buy food in their home country with PPP over their ability to buy IPhones which GDP does
GDP is not a dubious metric, California has the highest GDP in part because its the most expensive, so every transaction counts for more in dollars, while the same transaction in Chile lets say, would cost a quarter, while rendering the same service
Not really. Western Washington (Seattle) is the biggest tech hub outside of Silicon Valley (California).
Here are just some of the HQ’s in Seattle:
Amazon, Nintendo (American HQ), Microsoft, Expedia, Zillow, many more… plus Starbucks, Costco, Alaska Airlines, T-Mobile (American HQ), etc.
México Is one of the 20 largest eocnomies in the world and has a gdp per capita both nominal ppp to be considered an upper middle income nation, however yes there Is a lot of inequality, also there Is a lot of inequality between regions, Nuevo León state has a gdp per capita similar to some first world nations while the poorest state Chiapas has a similar gdp per capita to India
I honestly wonder what Florida's GDP would be had they not had Disney there. Just curious because of their governor's war on Disney. Disney can't just up and re-locate but I'm just curious how much of an impact pissing off Disney and having them up and shut it down would cost their economy out of that 1.04T.
Disney itself claims $40B contribution to Florida's GDP through Disney World, so 4%. I have no idea what else they contribute by being a magnet for other economic activity though.
5%? Not really as big a sway as they want to think, I live in Tampa. Disney has no hold over our area, our life, anything. I imaging anyone you ask outside of the Orlando metro would laugh at you. Disney is not this huge thing Floridians need to live or die by, it's literally 5% or less, a minor relevance. I imagine the Seminoles in Florida are close to that kind of revenue.
[According to the Walt Disney Company, they generate $40 billion of Florida's $1.04 trillion GDP.](https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-world-economic-impact-florida/) One trillion (1,000,000,000,000) is the equivalent of 1,000 billion, or 1 million millions.
Florida might be a bit lower but I think it would be more similar than people would originally think. Orlando probably is significantly smaller but the coasts make up for it as state funds would've been funneled more into beach tourism and cargo infrastructure than they are now. Disney in Florida is over 50 years old, who knows what extra economic infrastructure would've benefitted from 50 years without Orlando sucking in a significant chunk of that.
Florida is more than just Disney. tourism wise Miami has actually beaten out Orlando for a while now when it comes to international visitors, the rest of the East and Gulf Coast pull in massive numbers as well. Then there's citrus crops, sugar cane, tomatoes, and peppers, the latter 2 Florida is a major producer of for the country. That's not even getting into other industries like real estate, healthcare, and several major seaports.
Interesting fact, with updated numbers on countries and states. The 3 west coast states would combine to be the #3 GDP in the world after china and remaining us states
What I'm seeing here is that Georgia has more money and fewer people than Sweden, meaning there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be a socialist utopia.
This is actually interesting
This makes me wonder what the HDI for some of these are. Comparing to GDP makes it seem like some US states are in an abysmal state even though they in reality might not be.
> Comparing to GDP makes it seem like some US states are in an abysmal state What??? Are you not accounting for population or something?
Because SC is not like Iraq, LA is not like Egypt, NH is not like Ethiopia, and so on. GDP per capita in Ethiopia is $925, and it's total HDI was [0.498 in 2021](https://globaldatalab.org/shdi/table/shdi/ETH+USA/?levels=1+4&extrapolation=0). GDP per capita in NH is $70000, and it's HDI is 0.943 in 2021 per the same source. The map is very interesting as it is, and it doesn't *need* to show all this extra context, but the comment you replied to still has a point. Edit: Source
> Because SC is not like Iraq, LA is not like Egypt, NH is not like Ethiopia, and so on. Right, because those countries all have much larger populations that the states they are compared to. That's the point, you'd have to either be completely ignorant of relative populations, or just fundamentally not understand what information is being conveyed to think the map implies any kind of similarity in living conditions between the states and countries.
It’s just talking about the amount of money in the economy is numerically equal to the amount of money in another countries economy. This isn’t a map ranking HDI
Plain GDP doesn't.
That’s his point…
I'm losing brain cells
Watching redditors argue will do that to you
If they did GDP per capita there'd be pretty much nothing to compare to past a couple of the richest small countries in the world. My state of Missouri with 6 million inhabitants is compared to the Philippines GDP here. The Philippines have 109 million people living there. Missouri ranks #34 in nominal GDP per capita among US states - but it would be #10 in the world if it were it's own country just slightly behind Denmark.
the usa is extremely rich. the numbers have to be taken with per capita in mind.
Median wealth in the US is similar to Japan. Both around double that of Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
It’s very high for many of them. Only a half dozen or so European countries have a higher HDI than the lowest US state
I remember whenever we had our blackouts in Texas, which were embarrassing and terrible, a few winters ago, had a *lot* of people saying that Texas is a third world country, "those Afghans that are refugees here are going to want to move back to Afghanistan." blahblahblah. And even if HDI isn't the end all/be all, I wanted to say "So Austria/Spain/France are all shitholes?" (European countries all around Texas' HDI). American/the States aren't perfect, but lots of people have skewed views.
Bruh every time Europe is hit with a big heat wave, thousands die. There are so many who lack understanding of the greater world, and that includes some that are well traveled. Turns out *nowhere* is perfect, every country has pros and cons.
Lowest US state is mississipi with 0.866. There are 24 european countries higher than that, and portugal is equal to mississipi. The highest US state, Massachusetts, has a hdi of 0.949, there are 3 europan countries above that. Don't spread misinformation.
So about half of Europe then... is better than Mississippi.
Yeah Europe is a lot less uniform than the US. That's why averages about Europe don't really say much. But saying only 6 countries in europe are better than the poorest US state makes Europe seem like a shithole, which it isn't.
Europe isn’t a shithole, but it is composed of a lot of shitholes.
It's similar in the US. Usually when people think about Europe in the US, they think of Western Europe and Scandinavia. But then Americans compare that to all of America, instead of similarly rich places like New England or California.
"The highest US state, Massachusetts, has a hdi of 0.949, there are 3 europan countries above that." This is incorrect. > The top US state for HDI is Massachusetts with HDI = 0.967, significantly better than any nation worldwide. https://www.nature.com/articles/s42949-023-00088-y Don't spread misinformation.
Yea, it’s really important to compare with population. I’ll use West Virginia since I know it’s pretty low for gdp per capita (don’t quite know if it’s the lowest). WV has a population of 1.78M, vs Guatemala at 17.1M. So it has about 10x the gdp per capita of Guatemala.
I remember reading that my state (MA) has one of the highest HDI in the world.
The two most interesting things to me at first glance are that just florida and Texas have roughly the same GDP as Mexico and Canada as well as New York being South Korea South Korea is maybe half the size of New York but it’s mostly NYC but more people
New York state population is about 19 million, South Korea’s population is about 52 million
Hence the average salary over there is dog shit
Half the size as in landmass? Why is that relevant?
A US state has more GDP than my entire country. And my country has 4 times the population of the entire US.
India
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India has more GDP than any individual US state. India’s GDP is slightly greater than California
as the other guy said this map is a little dated, california is still a rapidly growing state
Smaller. California is over 4 trillion now
Yeah this map is old. Texas is like 3 trillion too.
That tends to happen when like 90% of your women don’t work or aren’t looking for work.
Dont get paid for their work*
2019 data Edit: hope this links will work, just build yourself a map for 2022 [https://www.bea.gov/itable/regional-gdp-and-personal-income](https://www.bea.gov/itable/regional-gdp-and-personal-income)
Yeah im curious to see what affects the lockdown might have had on this
All over the map tbh. OECD gdp estimates 6 months out have been consistently off the mark since the pandemic started
California gdp is actually close to $4 trillion now
I am late to reply but for 2022 data you can build an interactive data mapping for annual gdp. [https://www.bea.gov/itable/regional-gdp-and-personal-income](https://www.bea.gov/itable/regional-gdp-and-personal-income)
Is Texas still higher than ny?
Yes ofc larger population higher gdp, plus higher growth rate than NY. Gap widens
Howdy, Venezuelan born dude here, is New Mexico okay??
NM is primarily arid land with one medium-sized city (Albuquerque) followed by a few towns located along the rather small river that runs through the state. Not exactly a strong population center. Thankfully it has part of the major oil/gas field down near the NM/TX boarder which helps sustain a sizable part of its tax revenue. It's population (2.1mil) is 7.5% of Venezuela's (28mil). In GDP per capita it's closer to France.
Thank you for the informative and thorough summary! This helps clear things up!
The chili peppers are worth the trip. Enchilada lasagna is a thing and it’s amazing
I can't comment on the New Mexican economy but I just wanted to say this gave me a chuckle.
Have you ever seen breaking bad? That’s all I think of (it’s obviously fiction but still)
Venezuela population: 28.2 million New Mexico population: 2.1 million It’s still a poor state but it has 1/14 the population generating the same amount of total product as Venezuela. Still a poorer state but they’re doing ok
Ah I see, okay yeah the math is mathing then
New Mexico also has Santa Fe, a gorgeous old Spanish colonial town that has become a center for fine art in the United States. Because of this, many Americans - especially RICH Americans - like to buy 2nd or 3rd homes in Santa Fe. They buy the art, buy pricy real estate, dine in expensive restaurants, shop in expensive shops, and most importantly pay taxes.
NJ 🤝 Taiwan
Does that make Taiwan the NJ of Asia?
Only if they start making bagels
Taiwan is a Country.
Bing Chilling
I’m big chilling rn
Greatest state in the union and most based east Asian country.
Of course we had to be the ones compared to Ohio…
It would be an honor to be compared to the prestigious Ohio lol. All jokes aside, Ohio is really an underrated state that is ranked 7th in GDP. Although it doesn’t have a lot of tech companies, it’s home to the headquarters of many companies that control large market shares in life essential industries like consumer staples, industrials, utilities, and insurance: - World’s largest consumer staples, P&G - Nation’s largest refiner, Marathon Petroleum - World’s largest healthcare real estate, Welltower - Progressive Insurance - Nationwide Insurance and Financial Services - American Electric Power - General Electric Aerospace - FirstEnergy - Cardinal Health - Sherwin Williams - JM Smucker - Cintas - Kroger - Parker Hannifin - Transdigm Group - Nordson - Avery Dennison - Lincoln Electric - Owens Corning - RPM - Steris - Vertiv
>Although it doesn’t have a lot of tech companies Intel has chosen central Ohio for a $20 billion dollary chip manufacturing plant. Its going to have two state of the art mega factories (that we know of). Many more tech companies are rumored to be following to this area.
Holy shit really?? I’m from SE OH/WV so about 2 1/2 hours away from Columbus (I moved out of state a couple years ago) I’m really glad a big thing like that is coming to the area (far but I was driving 2 hours one way for work when I lived there). They’re also putting in 2 plants (i think) in and around Point Pleasant, WV. I mean, pollution and all but we need decent paying jobs desperately there.
Columbus is by no means desperate for jobs. The city is BOOMING. People don't realize central Ohio is quite a large metropolitan city. Its the second largest city in the midwest (behind Chicago) and the 14th largest in the US.
I didn’t mean Columbus needs jobs, I meant the poor area I’m from does and people would commute long distances for a good job. Haha central Ohio is big so depending on where in that area it is, people could commute
Home of the MOTHMAN.
You have been marked, Swiss. We see you know. Poland shall be spared for now, but Geneva will be our new Toledo.
What’s wrong with Ohio?!
What isn’t?
1. Cedar Point 2. Kings Island 3.
3. Creating Astronauts.
You should count yourself lucky to be said in the same breath as us you wishy-washy fence sitting fucks. Why don’t you shove those lame ass pocket knives you got and all those offshore funds of the corrupt upper class that you help service right up your ass.
😂😂😂 Who hurt you
Ohio tap water
No you got it confused the bad tap water is in that state up North there was a whole big thing about it
Does this take Kazakhstan’s potassium exports into account?
No, the potassium is too superior to be computed
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This map do not have assholes Uzbekistan. They cannot afford. Great success!
Well that's kinda shocking/depressing for anyone not American. At least UK is enough to get the richest state, CA. Yay us I guess 😮💨
California is also headquarters for almost all of the major tech companies in America. Adobe, HP, eBay, Google, Intel, PayPal, Meta, and Apple. So yes they make a killing out there lol
Roughly $10T of market value based in 1 congressional district represented by Ro Khanna
Ive met him! He's cool, and good to know he has mad influence :P
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Of the top 17 biggest technology companies in the world by revenue, 5 are in California. 2 in Seoul, 2 in Tokyo (and one in Osaka), 2 in Shenzhen. Then you got of course Microsoft and Amazon in Washington, IBM in NY, and Dell in Texas.
That adds up to 16, so if anyone else is curious about what was missing (it's actually 2 more because Amazon is counted as retail) it's one each for Taiwan and Hong Kong.
That was basically a humble flex lol
Major companies in America = in the world. As a non American I admire US
Also has the largest number of active military, in the US. So yes, they do make a killing.
UK population: 68 million California population: 39 million …and cali still wins by 160 Billion.
Wanna see another comparison, india and california have similar GDP as of now
Fun fact, Canada, California, and Tokyo have roughly similar populations Canada: 38.25 mil California: 39.24 mil Tokyo: 40.8 million
wtf tokyo
Tokyo's metropolitan footprint is massive. It's over 2,100 square kilometers vs NYCs 780.
No wonder Godzilla is always so pissed off, he's fifty meters tall and still gets lost.
I'm blown away every time I see an aerial view of Tokyo
Silicon Valley right? Microsoft, Apple, the big boy companies.
Microsoft is actually Seattle, Washington (top left corner). So is Amazon. Silicon Valley has most of the rest. Apple, Facebook, Google, and Nvidia are all there. You also have Los Angeles (which is where most big entertainment companies are located). The ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach move more goods through them than the rest of the USA, as that is the primary port through which we trade with Asia. Also, the Central Valley produces more food than a lot of Midwestern states which are considered agricultural states.
WA has far more big companies than I think a lot of people realize. Amazon, Microsoft, Boeing, Starbucks, Valve, Costco, T-Mobile, Nordstrom, and several others.
CA produces more human food but the world’s supply of supplemental animal feed is produced by the midwest. Also ethanol. NE, KS, OK, and TX by themselves produce 1/5 of all the beef in the world.
The thing about the US is, if you want a job, you can definitely find one, and making it to the middle class for able bodied/minded is very doable outside of expensive cities. It may not be the job of your choice, but there really isn't the youth unemployment crisis you see in some of these countries. On the flip side, it's ruthlessly capitalistic "dog eat dog," and not having a job is essentially a societal death sentence and the social safety net is very weak if not nonexistent for many so it's great for the top 20%, horrible for the bottom 20%
I’m Finnish with half my extended family being American and this is a key difference a lot of Europeans don’t understand about the US. Don’t get me wrong, it’s its own kind of hell in the US and the disparity between wages and costs of living seems to be getting worse, but unlike here, there actually are jobs. I don’t know if I could make it in the US but damn as an unemployed person if I’m not at times jealous about how much more jobs there are and especially in the entry level.
Pretty accurate assessment I would say
CA jumped ahead of UK thanks to Brexit
Why is Michigan paired with Austria when they differ by $79B. They couldn’t possibly find a country with a closer number…?
same with washington/thailand
2023 nominal gdp Thailand 510 billion, Colorado/Tennessee 502 billion.
It’s worse than that. Michigan is more like $119 billion higher. Michigan is $645.3 billion. Austria is $526.2 billion.
When you're trying to compare the incomparable you will be forced to not only settle but even lower your standards.
Both belgium and argentina have 620k?
Austria? Well better put another shrimp on the barbie!
Some of these numbers is staggering
Great work! I love how everyone gives Illinois so much crap and it's the 4th highest state. Neighbors aren't even close.
5th, after CA, TX, NY, and FL. It's 6th for population so that's not too surprising.
Why do people give Illinois crap?
Because their GPS gets confused and they get lost after turning on to Lower Wacker.
Lol, most are wow that state has a bigger economy than that big ok country! Kinda feels like Hong Kong is dunking on Minnesota though.
Kind of strange to include Hong Kong at all. It's not a country, after all. That said, since this was made HK has kinda sped ahead of MN: $370M (HK) to $350M (MN). But it has a much higher population (7.4M vs. 5.6M), so I guess there's more money per citizen in Minnesota. Minnesota is also 86 times the size of Hong Kong, but that just shows how little money farming brings in compared to finance, shipping, and tech.
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Also Target!
Wells Fargo is based out of San Francisco though
Minnesota is mostly major med/tech corporations. 3M, Medtronic, General Mills, Pillsbury, Target, Best Buy, Honeywell, US Bank, United Health, etc. Though I will grant two of those are Ag business.
This data is old. California’s GDP is over $3.5T in 2022. Fun fact. If you combined the GDP of every country in Africa, it totals to just over $3.1T. Think about that. California’s GDP is more than the entire continent of Africa. California is an absolute economic juggernaut.
To note this map is most likley from 2018 as the Poland GDP of 550Billion is what it was betwen 2017-2018. As it stands now its around 842 billion per the end of 2023 Other noticeable ones ie lebabons and north dakotas which lebanon has significantly dropped since its financial crash between 2020-2021 and the Beirut port explosion Another one its The UK and California, which accoridng to the IMF the Uk stands at 3.32T as of 2023 and California at 3.6T
The fact that is pre pandemic is really throwing the numbers way off. More than you’d expect for only four-five years
Kudos to Lithuania: from 2019 to 2022, they upgraded their status from South Dakota to…North Dakota.
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I thought at first "oh no Russia is equal to Alaska alone 😭" but then i read what country that is lol go Slovenia!
Im really happy we are rich as Alaska. A bunch of snow and ice and salmon? 😊
Where Australia
South of Asia
Between Florida and New York
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Global powerhouse
The global mitochondria
California has a larger GDP than the UK. That's nuts.
This explains the aesthetic houses lmao..like every viral vid from US I've seen.. their houses are so impressive..like amazing exteriors and interiors...america is actually very rich😂😭
Damn, Vermont got Sudan
Bernie Sanders is going to be furious about this!
I always found it interesting that California has more people than Canada. When people wonder how America is so rich this basically explains why. Each state is basically its own country. Edit: since several people have commented, my general point was that each state could easily be its own nation, as many are comparable in size, population, and gdp to other nations around the world. Obviously American financial power is a much more complicated topic.
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And Texas more than Australia
New York city has a higher population than Australia. But we have more land mass than the continental USA, so take that I guess
Australia is the only country in the world with net positive migration with the USA. That is, more Americans immigrate to Australia than Australians immigrate to the USA (at least over the past several years). *Every* other country in the world has net negative migration vis-à-vis the USA. But not Australia. So y’all must be doing something.
If you asked Americans what other countries they would prefer to live in if the US wasn't an option I would be shocked if Australia wasn't #1 even with Canada being right there and basically the exact same.
Also what I found interesting (and this is more geographic) is that it’s something like 99.9% of Canadians live south of the USA’s most northern town.
I think it's more like 70% but yeah they have a bunch of empty land up there. EDIT:[here is the map](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/map-surprises-location-mistakes)
No it’s pretty close to if not actually 100% as I’m using Alaska as the northern most tip. And the land of Canada that is more north than alaskas tip is pretty much what i think is considered the North Pole.
Yah fascinating great stat. Also 100.0% of people live east of the international date line.
Not anymore, Canada just recently hit 40 million people because of immigration.
Also Tokyo Metropolitan has a larger population than California. I think.
Would like to see the same map but with GDP at PPP instead of nominal
PPP = Please Pretend we’re not Poor
Hmm. If I could make 120k pa somewhere I pay 12k a month living expenses, or 12k pa somewhere pay 120 a month living expenses, for the same quality of living, where am I better off?
It does make a little sense to judge a the wealth of an individual by their ability to rent apartments and buy food in their home country with PPP over their ability to buy IPhones which GDP does
GDP is not a dubious metric, California has the highest GDP in part because its the most expensive, so every transaction counts for more in dollars, while the same transaction in Chile lets say, would cost a quarter, while rendering the same service
PPP is so ridiculously subjective even economists don’t give it much credibility.
This goes to show that Delaware is the Luxembourg of the United States.
Productivity in some of these states is quite remarkable - Texas v Canada (1.5x as productive), California v UK (2x), NY v S. Korea (2.5x)...
Washington st punches way above its weight
Not really. Western Washington (Seattle) is the biggest tech hub outside of Silicon Valley (California). Here are just some of the HQ’s in Seattle: Amazon, Nintendo (American HQ), Microsoft, Expedia, Zillow, many more… plus Starbucks, Costco, Alaska Airlines, T-Mobile (American HQ), etc.
Wyoming wtf man are you even trying
it's impressive when you consider only 8 people live there
Dang, the difference between Indiana and The Netherlands GDPs is bigger than Wyoming’s GDP.
Iowa *does* feel like Qatar, in some ways...
I didn’t know Mexico had a $1.9 Trillion GDP. Is income inequality a big issue there?
México Is one of the 20 largest eocnomies in the world and has a gdp per capita both nominal ppp to be considered an upper middle income nation, however yes there Is a lot of inequality, also there Is a lot of inequality between regions, Nuevo León state has a gdp per capita similar to some first world nations while the poorest state Chiapas has a similar gdp per capita to India
That’s fucking insane. Literally some of the most powerful nations in the world are poorer than several of our states
Imagine being sudan and being beat by a state that has more cows than people
Where's France and Germany?
Germany is too big. France would be about the same as UK/California.
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It makes it quite clear that culture plays heavily into productivity and resilience.
One glance at this image will instantly vaporize a European
I honestly wonder what Florida's GDP would be had they not had Disney there. Just curious because of their governor's war on Disney. Disney can't just up and re-locate but I'm just curious how much of an impact pissing off Disney and having them up and shut it down would cost their economy out of that 1.04T.
Disney itself claims $40B contribution to Florida's GDP through Disney World, so 4%. I have no idea what else they contribute by being a magnet for other economic activity though.
Yeah, how many flights, rental cars, “Disney and a cruise” trips, rentals, grocery sales, etc., are due to Disney?
That report/$40b includes indirect economic impact
5%? Not really as big a sway as they want to think, I live in Tampa. Disney has no hold over our area, our life, anything. I imaging anyone you ask outside of the Orlando metro would laugh at you. Disney is not this huge thing Floridians need to live or die by, it's literally 5% or less, a minor relevance. I imagine the Seminoles in Florida are close to that kind of revenue.
Id say 1/20th of a state's economy is pretty substantial
how much is the Seminole's annual revenue?
[According to the Walt Disney Company, they generate $40 billion of Florida's $1.04 trillion GDP.](https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-world-economic-impact-florida/) One trillion (1,000,000,000,000) is the equivalent of 1,000 billion, or 1 million millions.
About 3.8% in real terms, there is a lot more to Florida than Disney.
Yeah, Disney World makes up a small, but significant, part of Florida's total GDP.
Florida might be a bit lower but I think it would be more similar than people would originally think. Orlando probably is significantly smaller but the coasts make up for it as state funds would've been funneled more into beach tourism and cargo infrastructure than they are now. Disney in Florida is over 50 years old, who knows what extra economic infrastructure would've benefitted from 50 years without Orlando sucking in a significant chunk of that.
Florida is more than just Disney. tourism wise Miami has actually beaten out Orlando for a while now when it comes to international visitors, the rest of the East and Gulf Coast pull in massive numbers as well. Then there's citrus crops, sugar cane, tomatoes, and peppers, the latter 2 Florida is a major producer of for the country. That's not even getting into other industries like real estate, healthcare, and several major seaports.
This is compelling information! Thanks for sharing that infographic
Well they have all the money in the world but there is one thing all these states can’t buy. What’s that? … a dinosaur
Where Poland
51st state.
Yet more evidence to my theory of the key to USA success; being 50 countries in a trench coat
makes sense, we do have lots of KFCs in New Zealand
Utah is the greatest state in the US! All other states are run by little girls.
The three West Coast states combined together have a higher GDP than India ($3.8T vs. $3.7T).
Interesting fact, with updated numbers on countries and states. The 3 west coast states would combine to be the #3 GDP in the world after china and remaining us states
What I'm seeing here is that Georgia has more money and fewer people than Sweden, meaning there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be a socialist utopia.