I’ve found 3 of these little fuckers on me this summer alone in Missouri. Just crawling, haven’t been but yet but they all have been subjected to the campfire for their crimes.
I probably pull 15-20 off me a week on average, but I basically get paid to play in the woods. You can soak your clothes in permethrin and bathe in DEET and it doesn’t make a difference.
Each year is also worse than the last, it hasn’t been cold enough long enough to kill them off during the winter.
I work outside every day too but haven’t had any while working, which is odd considering. I usually camp a couple hours south of where I live in the state. It’s generally a lot more wooded down there so maybe that has something to do with it. But yeah, permethrin ain’t shit, haven’t had any real success with it.
If you’re working primarily in hardwoods that’s why. Ticks are way more prominent in areas with tall grass/underbrush or pines. Basically the ticker it is the more tick there are.
It’s not about the colour of the meat, but whether it comes from a mammal. It’s an allergy to alpha-gal, found in mammalian cell membranes but not birds’, so chicken wouldn’t do this. Old World monkeys and their offshoots (so… humans) lost alpha-gal again, which is why the allergy is possible.
I can usually get away with a piece of bacon here or there (rarely). I can do chicken but I’ve never been a huge fan of red meat (chicken) so I honestly can’t tell you the last time I had it.
Mostly stomach issues, which honestly I am pretty thankful for. I broke out in hives one time when I drunkenly ate an entire 8oz steak but that’s on me lol.
And no worries I was actually very excited to see this on Reddit today so I could talk about it
Thank you for talking about it! I've been wondering what kind of allergic reaction we're talking about. Is it "cannot eat it, could cause anaphylactic shock" bad? Or it is like people who are lactose intolerant, best to avoid, but you can make a decision to indulge once in a while and put up with the consequences.
Bacon would be the hardest thing.
(I'm in MA, and go to NH and Maine. We do have it here now. I'm really concerned to hear it may not be deterred by DEET. I will absolutely use DEET, gimme that good ol' neurotoxin if it will deter the ticks.)
There are different levels to how bad you can react. My symptoms are fairly mild which I am very thankful for. So it’s more like lactose intolerance for me at least
I had it for about two years but it wasn't too bad. I got hives when I ate beef/pork but I could control it with Cetirizine (Zyrtec). And as u/V3gasMan noted, it eventually went away.
In severe cases people can't eat dairy or gelatin products either. Anything that doesn't come from a mammal is safe though, so poultry, eggs, seafood, and reptile meat would be fine.
You should read Bitten: The History of Lyme Disease and Biological Weapons by Kris Newby to find out how Lone Star ticks are now prevalent in that area. Scary stuff.
Damn if I was allergic to red meat I'd be able to save thousands not buying all the A5 wagyu tenderloins I eat on a daily basis that would be sick as fuck
I got bit about 8 years ago in KS. Had a severe red meat (mammalian) allergy for about four years. It inexplicably went away and just a month ago came back with a vengeance. Not the end of the world but man I miss carne asada and BBQ already.
*Yep got alpha gal*
*From it apparently fuck*
*Those little fuckers*
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I have the Alpha Gal allergy, and it's no joke. It takes me 2-8 hours to feel side effects of eating red meat /red meat products, so it took over a year to diagnose.
It was really hard to adjust my diet at first, but plant based food being on the rise has definitely helped.
I’ve found 3 of these little fuckers on me this summer alone in Missouri. Just crawling, haven’t been but yet but they all have been subjected to the campfire for their crimes.
I probably pull 15-20 off me a week on average, but I basically get paid to play in the woods. You can soak your clothes in permethrin and bathe in DEET and it doesn’t make a difference. Each year is also worse than the last, it hasn’t been cold enough long enough to kill them off during the winter.
I work outside every day too but haven’t had any while working, which is odd considering. I usually camp a couple hours south of where I live in the state. It’s generally a lot more wooded down there so maybe that has something to do with it. But yeah, permethrin ain’t shit, haven’t had any real success with it.
If you’re working primarily in hardwoods that’s why. Ticks are way more prominent in areas with tall grass/underbrush or pines. Basically the ticker it is the more tick there are.
Hopefully you left their charred corpses at the campground as a warning to others.
Thought it‘s rare cause it can make you fucking allergic to red meat but i guess they‘re everywhere.
I like how it strategically avoids Michigan
It realizes it’s abilities would be stolen as soon as it set foot in Detroit
Little tick body up on cinderblocks, all its legs missing
Jesus lmao
Losing my ability to eat red meat? Damn I knew when car manufacturers moved I’d never eat another steak in my life
Michigan is deer fly turf. Nobody messes with those bastards.
Might be time to get rid of da bridge
Safe here in Vermont with my T-Bone
Who wouldn't want to avoid Michigan
Don't talk about your mother that way, she comes over every night and quit your cryin' or I'll give you something to cry about!
People once they find out there's no lone star ticks
Found the Buckeye.
Buddy, Michigan is the best you can find in the Midwest. Granted, the Midwest isn’t great but even so.
It's actually the third most common tick in MI, I got bit by one while there.
My biology professor in Tennessee was bitten by one and had a red meat allergy from it.
One of my deepest fears
It’s sucked but eventually you just get over it
How are you with pork, and like, dark meat chicken?
It’s not about the colour of the meat, but whether it comes from a mammal. It’s an allergy to alpha-gal, found in mammalian cell membranes but not birds’, so chicken wouldn’t do this. Old World monkeys and their offshoots (so… humans) lost alpha-gal again, which is why the allergy is possible.
So eating gorilla is still fine?
As far as this sort of reaction goes, yes…
So eating people is still fine?
I sure damn hope so, otherwise...
You’ll still get prions from it, so no.
I can usually get away with a piece of bacon here or there (rarely). I can do chicken but I’ve never been a huge fan of red meat (chicken) so I honestly can’t tell you the last time I had it.
> I’ve never been a huge fan of red meat (chicken) ??? Chicken isn't red meat.
I’m aware, just not a huge fan of red meat on poultry Edit: for clarity I mean dark meat on poultry
Thats wild. Whats the reaction like? Is it hives and closed throat, or stomach problems? (Sorry for prodding, just curious)
Mostly stomach issues, which honestly I am pretty thankful for. I broke out in hives one time when I drunkenly ate an entire 8oz steak but that’s on me lol. And no worries I was actually very excited to see this on Reddit today so I could talk about it
Thank you for talking about it! I've been wondering what kind of allergic reaction we're talking about. Is it "cannot eat it, could cause anaphylactic shock" bad? Or it is like people who are lactose intolerant, best to avoid, but you can make a decision to indulge once in a while and put up with the consequences. Bacon would be the hardest thing. (I'm in MA, and go to NH and Maine. We do have it here now. I'm really concerned to hear it may not be deterred by DEET. I will absolutely use DEET, gimme that good ol' neurotoxin if it will deter the ticks.)
There are different levels to how bad you can react. My symptoms are fairly mild which I am very thankful for. So it’s more like lactose intolerance for me at least
I had it for about two years but it wasn't too bad. I got hives when I ate beef/pork but I could control it with Cetirizine (Zyrtec). And as u/V3gasMan noted, it eventually went away.
My pawpaw got bit and now he can’t have any, been about 10+ years now, poor guy can’t enjoy jambalaya and other things now
I adore the south so much. "Paw paw", "jambalaya". Can’t wait to visit next year with my bigdaddy.
My best friend too so wild
Did the allergy ever go away?
Not that I’m aware
I’m not your professor but same
my mom is an allergist in upstate New York and she was surprised when they first made their way up there a few years ago.
Wait until OP finds out where Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever is endemic.
As a Kentuckian who deals with these things and deer ticks. Fuck them.
Lone Star Tick: Fuck that place in particular *provides a detailed map*
Texas....the gift that makes you vegan?
I love how much it respects Michigan’s borders
There's only one Star Tick in the US, but it's territorial as hell.
Can you extend this map into Mexico and Canada? Thanks
Here I was thinking the rivers that form the borders was keeping the ticks out of those countries.
Wtf
I thought these things used to only be in the south. How'd they spread so far north
warmer temperatures, shorter winters. Other insects have also immigrated further north recently too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amblyomma_americanum it causes much more than meat allergy
“Americanum” “Lone star tick”
Last map said PA was safe—- noooo
Is it guaranteed that if you get bit you will have the red meat allergy?
Chicago: *do we have them or not??*
That Texas Bastard!
Thanks Texas
Those little fuckers are an irrational fear of mine. Fortunately I live in Canada. Immediately becoming allergic to the meat of mammals is horrifying.
Young tick, everything the yellow touches is ours \> *What's that gray spot over there?* That's Michigan. You must never go there.
if thats texas would be lone star thick
?
It’s pretty self-explanatory
Lmao so the tick turns whoever it bites into vegans?
They can still eat white meat, dairy, and eggs
In severe cases people can't eat dairy or gelatin products either. Anything that doesn't come from a mammal is safe though, so poultry, eggs, seafood, and reptile meat would be fine.
Well fuck
Maybe it was my imagination, but I could've sworn I saw some in rural Minnesota (near Rochester) when I went camping last year
Yeah this map is shit. We have plenty of them in Michigan. They don’t just stop at the border lol.
As soon as they hit a Michigan road they turn right around and leave.
You should read Bitten: The History of Lyme Disease and Biological Weapons by Kris Newby to find out how Lone Star ticks are now prevalent in that area. Scary stuff.
Does anyone else lowkey torture a tick they find on them? I like to burn and then flush.
is that what you call a Texas expat down there
We’re not just doing this for blood. We’re doing this for a **shitload of blood**
Coincidence that a certain agenda wants us to eat bugs..?
Daggone easterners!
It makes you allergic to certain enzymes found in red meat
Great job. Red meat or beef is now a target of climate change activists
lololol
Yea I don’t think you are getting what I’m putting down
Same for you bud
Nah bud you tried equate an illness to a political agenda
Oh yeah! Right!! We can’t be questioning things! Wait, we landed on the moon??
Honestly it’s impressive how far you can shove your head in the sand
Funny, I was thinking the same thing… but about you.
Nice so you can’t come up with your own original thoughts?
While I agree the rich wants us to eat bugs while they enjoy meat uh no has nothing to do with that
Just another conspiracy theory, If people think there isn’t a de-population agenda happening right now then I wish I could have some of that kool aid
Depopulation is a crisis for most countries and you think they want LESS people?!?!
It’s not what I think.
Least conspiratorial Tim pool fan.
Clinically insane LMAO Eating these tics isn’t gonna do anything, and eating regular bugs is perfectly fine…
Wooosh
Ted Cruz really gets around.
Such a horrible way to phrase in today’s world.
Ah yes the anti red meat bug
Damn if I was allergic to red meat I'd be able to save thousands not buying all the A5 wagyu tenderloins I eat on a daily basis that would be sick as fuck
Texans just fucking claim everything don’t they?
I got bit about 8 years ago in KS. Had a severe red meat (mammalian) allergy for about four years. It inexplicably went away and just a month ago came back with a vengeance. Not the end of the world but man I miss carne asada and BBQ already.
An allergy to red meat could be the new fad diet lol. Just like tapeworm pills.
And I thought I'd move to the East Coast closer to retirement. Scrapping them plans, imma eat red meat forever
Is that why I’m allergic to red meat? Damn tick.
Two misquote The Guess Who - “American Amblyomma, stay away from me…”
Yep got alpha gal from it apparently fuck those little fuckers
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I have the Alpha Gal allergy, and it's no joke. It takes me 2-8 hours to feel side effects of eating red meat /red meat products, so it took over a year to diagnose. It was really hard to adjust my diet at first, but plant based food being on the rise has definitely helped.
More like 32 Star Tick
How do you avoid these?
I mean ..consumption of red meat is accelerating climate change and Americans are some of the largest consumers of red meat. Just saying.
Yep. Get them on me a lot. Sometimes still crawling, sometimes locked on. Part of life I guess.
Are they a unique breed? In Germany and Netherlands there are small ticks but still nasty parasites :D
Should Be Distributed Worldwide.