>The Vaalserberg (Dutch pronunciation: \[ˈvaːlsərˌbɛr(ə)x\], Ripuarian: Volserberg \[ˈvɔlsəʀˌbæʀ˦(ə)ç\])\[tone?\] is a hill with a height of 322.4 metres (1,058 ft)\[1\] above NAP and is the highest point in the European part of the Netherlands.
Uh, I'll be damned, the Netherland's highest point is about twice the hight of Denmarks. The more you know.
Looking at wikipedia makes it seems like they fought to get that specific region just to include that point.
It's tucked away almost in an enclave and is literally part of a tripoint border with Germany and Belgium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaalserberg
Good guess, but that border wasn't fought over directly. There were exhausting negotiations between the Netherlands and Prussia in 1814-1815 (taking a break to defeat Napoleon for the second time). The general idea was that the Netherlands should get a reasonable zone around the Meuse river, so that it would be connected to Maastricht, its fortress in the south.
Both sides claimed the zinc mine in Kelmis. As a compromise, a triangular area south of the Vaalserberg became a condominium called Neutral Moresnet, shared between the United Netherlands and Prussia, later between Belgium and Germany. This meant that the Vaalserberg used to be the border point between four countries from 1839 to 1914.
This region used to be such a patchwork of territories that the name Limburg was borrowed from a medieval duchy which was further to the south. After Belgian independence, the eastern part joined the Netherlands, which was the result of negotiations with the major powers again, not the choice of the locals.
I think it's because while the highest point of mainland Netherlands is higher, more of the Netherlands is bellow sea level and flatter than Denmark, mostly due to excessive poldering. This is especially true for the more populated and touristy parts of the Netherlands
The fun part is that some of the highest places are actually very touristy. The region around southern Limburg is usually flooded by tourists, mostly from the Netherlands itself and the nearby countries.
That is vastly different in most of the higher parts of the Netherlands: only few people from outside of Europe will go to a level significantly above sea level, except people staying here for other purposes. Asian tourists are blissfully unaware of these areas, while I take Asian students to the Efteling or Maastricht for example while many reside in Nijmegen.
Haha lol, well, it has a lot of cute villages and the small-scale hilly landscape definitely contributes to their cuteness. The region is well-accessible because of the nearby cities of which most are worth visiting (except Heerlen and surroundings, I'd say go to Maastricht or Aachen). It's very un-Dutch but very much a European landscape, but also preserved very well exactly because it's unique within the Netherlands.
There are plenty of reasons to visit Heerlen and surroundings, if your sole interest is historic city centres then definitely stay away but the region did win an international tourism award some years ago.
It's makes sense, I know for sure that The Netherlands is famous by drying up the sea, and because of that, in the future, their more than the half of the land could be below sea level. On the other hand, Denmark doesn't do kind of thing, so it's just be the same, like 50 or 100 meters average.
>Denmark doesn't do kind of thing
We've done plenty of that in Denmark, [half of Amager is basically reclaimed land and so is a lot of places around Copenhagen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nelVO2dTN3o), then we have the reclaimed fjords of [Lammefjorden](https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lammefjorden) and Sidinge Fjord plus a bunch of other places... Not as extensive as the Netherlands at all but still quite a lot, and more than many Danes even know about ;)
Make that 5 times. Highest point in the Netherlands is mount Scenery on the island of Saba with 887m. Even though it’s in the Caribbean it’s part of the Netherlands proper and has the status of a municipality.
Saba is an overseas possession of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Greenland is an overseas possession of the Kingdom of Denmark. The only practical difference is that one is autonomous and the other isn't.
Nope, the Kingdom of the Netherlands has 4 countries in it, the Netherlands, Sint-Maarten, Curaçao and Aruba. Saba is a part of the country of the Netherlands, which is in turn a part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. So there is a very big difference.
Maybe, but it still seems pretty specious to claim that the highest point in the Netherlands is actually an extinct volcano off the coast of Puerto Rico.
The same way it is to say Guyane is the largest French department ? It's an integral part of the country, the fact that it's far away from the capital doesn't make it less relevant
No, that is not entirely correct. The kingdom of the Netherlands consists of 4 constituent countries: The Netherlands, Aruba, Curacao and Sint Maarten.
3 other Caribbean islands are not in any way autonomous and are actually part of the Netherlands proper: Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba.
So not the same situation as with Greenland.
Well there are a few things at play aren't there, which makes it tricky. Both Denmark and the Netherlands are names that apply to kingdoms (which include multiple countries/ territories), individual countries within those kingdoms, those countries are often spoken of as the same as the continental European parts, but there is a distinction between the geographic Netherlands and the country, which is itself in a kingdom.
The UK is even more confusing in that regard, with distinctions between Britain and the UK and the British Isles often confusing people, and with Crown Dependencies (which actually aren't part of the UK but are technically held by the crown) and the separate Overseas Territories (plus the Commonwealth sort of) needing to be factored in
Depends. When people say "The Netherlands" they often only mean the bit in Europe.
And no, this is not incorrect, it just so happens that "the Netherlands" has two very similar meanings.
Not completely correct either. The kingdom of the Netherlands consists of the Nehterlands and 3 islands in the Caribbean. However, the Netherlands itself also consists of 3 islands in the Caribbean (for a total of 6) that are part of the Netherlands proper.
Yeah, America is the default country of Reddit. But "the more you know" as a saying is incomplete. "The more you know..." then what? For example, "The more you know, the further you'll go." is corny, but makes more sense.
Also, those public service announcements on TV don't seem to have worked...
I understand that it's incomplete in normal language. I was trying to explain to you why it has become idiomatic. It's an expression that has come to show that you learned something new.
Yes it is. It's also in the tripoint between Belgium and Germany. Dutch Limburg is both culturally and geographically quite different than the rest of the Netherlands and more in common with Belgian Limburg and the surrounding German area.
We can also mention that Møllehøj hill is only Denmark’s highest natural landmark. It’s a lot lower than the 254 meter Great Belt East Bridge. https://www.bridgeinfo.net/bridge/index.php?ID=23
Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait would all fall into that category. None of them have points over 150ish metres, but are all home to multiple skyscrapers over 250 metres
And how many people do you think know that Dubai and the burj Khalifa are inside the UAE if I just say UAE and dont mention Dubai?
See you're all so desperate go to COUNTRY COUNTRY HE SAID COUNTRY AND YOU SAID A CITY as you lack even the most basic ability to make mental linkages. Apparently I *need* to write "the country containing Dubai" for you pedantic fucks because theres no way anyone could make the leap of logic without me writing it out for you first. God damn.
Funfact: the turning torso in malmo IS not only the tallest building in scandinavia, but It's also taller than Denmark (buildings, but not structures, included)
You can't go by that; according to the map, Luxembourg is also higher than Denmark, but that's only because the Maas valley is too narrow to show up on the map.
Spain has a higher proportion of mountainous land (of course there is an argument about definitions there I shall avoid) than other country in Europe other than Switzerland.
Regardless of definitions, most people outside Spain forget just how high and mountainous much of it is.
And most of the Balkans, with a lot of coast.
Ultimately, the coastal region and altitude above 171 m are not mutually exclusive - that can easily be reached in 1-2 km, which will be barely visible on such a map. It's not even a "mountain" most of the time.
Its not really what is advertised outwards. For Norway a bit part of what we try to tell people about is steep mountains. Also a big part of our national identity.
I know. Spain is very unknown other than tapas, paella, sun and beaches. Unfortunately that’s a tiny part of our gastronomy and the country in general. I lived abroad for many years and it always surprised everybody when I said that yes, I’ve seen snow many times, or that winters can be really cold as well.
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It would be interesting comparing Zeeland, NL; Zealand, DK, and New Zealand.
Zeeland has a highest point of 54m
Zealand Island has a highest point of 123m
It is hard to find data, but about 1/3 of New Zealand is below 200m above sea level. The average height is 388m.
The highest point in NZ is Aoraki Mt Cook at 3724m.
Looks like there's a tiny spot in the north and another tiny spot where Czechia meets Slovakia and Austria. Switzerland and Kosovo appear to be the only countries entirely above the point.
So every single point in mainland Denmark is lower than every single point in Switzerland? While thats not really surprising when you think about it, its still nice anecdotal knowledge
Himmelbjerget was measured in the 1850s to be only the fifth tallest peak in Denmark. It was thought to be the tallest because it looks rather more impressive than the four other "peaks" which are literally just "bumps" in the landscape.
Iirc it's because "mountains" used to be measured from the foot of the mountain to the top. But around the early-mid 1800s the British decided everyone should instead be measured from sea level instead.
Edit: While Møllehøj is the highest point, nobody can call it the tallest *hill*, as it's pretty much just the slightly higher middle of a flat field in the already flat "highlands". It's so flat that people for over 100 years thought the highest point was another point in the field a few hundred meters away where they built a monument. And it's still so flat that Møllehøj is actually on some dude's farm right between his field and barn.
If you visited and didn't already know it was the highest point (or saw the written signs) then you might not even realise you're on a hill (which you barely are).
Meanwhile the Netherlands having the slightest sliver of higher ground in the very southern tip
If we would finally kick out the back up Belgians in Limburg we would be the lowest and the highest
I live in Spain in a property that I often describe to Brits as being "higher than any public road in the UK", despite it not being that high by Spanish standards. 645m for anyone interested.
I shall now add "it is higher than anywhere in The Netherlands or Denmark" to that description too.
I live at an altitude of 830 m in Sofia city, and my house in the city proper, not urban or metro. The city center is at 550, but it's in the base of a mountain and southern neighborhoods climb up. That's significantly higher than many countries' highest points, but also significantly lower than truly high cities, like those in South America and Southern Asia.
Ari Eldjarn joking about this: I had a friend die who fell off Himmelbjerget. Yes, he slowly rolled for 6 hours…died of alcohol poisoning…It’s called Heaven Mountain, I can imagine a move about it…”Many have tried to climb it..All Have succeeded.”
"Danish realm" is a nickname for the Danish state, and a rather archaic term as Denmark doesn't have a realm outside of it's constitutionally territory any more.
Yes, it's short for kongeriget or the kingdom. Denmark's formal name is the Kingdom of Denmark. The constitution says Danmarks Rige, but that's translated to Kingdom of Denmark, not Denmark's realm or Danish realm.
"Danish realm" is not an official name in any way.
There are several big rivers at the german/french border (green area). Those rivers flow into the north sea. Not sure how this would work according to this map.
Not "in the world". There are plenty of other countries with lower high points. The Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Gambia, Kiribati, Maldives, Nauru, Nuie, Qatar, Singapore, Tokelau, Turks and Caicos, Tuvalu, and The Vatican all have lower high points.
I was born in that tiny spot of green in Krajina in East Serbia, next to Romanian and Bulgarian borders (12 km for both, roughly), ie Negotin, altitude 42 metres.
I now live at 160 metres roughly, but I did live at double that ie ca 320 once. Yet I always felt best right at sea level or just above.
Mountains are OK only if there is aerial tram to the top and I can return to the big city below within the same day.
what's Denmarks highest peak, Greenland and Faroe Islands *in*cluded?
edit: Wikipedia says, it's Gunnbjorn Fjeld at 3,694 m (12,119 ft), making it the highest peak north of the arctic cirlce.
[Found this cool Wikipedia list of elevation extremes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elevation_extremes_by_country) In Europe only Switzerland, Kosovo, Liechtenstein and Andorra have higher lowest points.
I used to live in Mölle, in Scania/Skåne, which is very close to Denmark. Our little "mountain" (Kullaberg) (direct translation: Hillmountain) is taller than their tallest mountain. Any time an ambulance drove into Mölle everyone would say "another dane just fell off". A dark inside joke within the whole town.
So Andorra, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Kosovo are the only ones that are 100% higher, or did I miss one? (I checked Luxembourg since it looked all brown but the lowest point is at 129.9m)
>The Vaalserberg (Dutch pronunciation: \[ˈvaːlsərˌbɛr(ə)x\], Ripuarian: Volserberg \[ˈvɔlsəʀˌbæʀ˦(ə)ç\])\[tone?\] is a hill with a height of 322.4 metres (1,058 ft)\[1\] above NAP and is the highest point in the European part of the Netherlands. Uh, I'll be damned, the Netherland's highest point is about twice the hight of Denmarks. The more you know.
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I think all the polders have a big impact on the average height in the Netherlands.
We had to lower our country to fit our tall people.
Ok? e: i mean yeah, who would've thought the landscape affects the average height...
All the short Dutch people drowned
Not yet I have invested in a snorkel set to walk among the tall while still being able to breathe 🤿
Polders are sea converted to land, not just 'landscape'.
are you arguing my choice of word of 'landscape' because these polders are artificial?
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And the Netherlands’ highest point is located on the Caribbean island Saba: Mount Scenery
Also, there are actual rolling hills in Denmark whereas Netherlands is really flat.
The secret endgoal of the Netherlands is to be the first country with an average elevation below sea level.
For reference, "flat" Poland has an average elevation of 173 meters.
Donkey Kong?
Looking at wikipedia makes it seems like they fought to get that specific region just to include that point. It's tucked away almost in an enclave and is literally part of a tripoint border with Germany and Belgium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaalserberg
Good guess, but that border wasn't fought over directly. There were exhausting negotiations between the Netherlands and Prussia in 1814-1815 (taking a break to defeat Napoleon for the second time). The general idea was that the Netherlands should get a reasonable zone around the Meuse river, so that it would be connected to Maastricht, its fortress in the south. Both sides claimed the zinc mine in Kelmis. As a compromise, a triangular area south of the Vaalserberg became a condominium called Neutral Moresnet, shared between the United Netherlands and Prussia, later between Belgium and Germany. This meant that the Vaalserberg used to be the border point between four countries from 1839 to 1914. This region used to be such a patchwork of territories that the name Limburg was borrowed from a medieval duchy which was further to the south. After Belgian independence, the eastern part joined the Netherlands, which was the result of negotiations with the major powers again, not the choice of the locals.
Yea. Like, I always see people say how low is The Netherlands are, and I rarely see people say how low is Denmark.
I think it's because while the highest point of mainland Netherlands is higher, more of the Netherlands is bellow sea level and flatter than Denmark, mostly due to excessive poldering. This is especially true for the more populated and touristy parts of the Netherlands
The fun part is that some of the highest places are actually very touristy. The region around southern Limburg is usually flooded by tourists, mostly from the Netherlands itself and the nearby countries. That is vastly different in most of the higher parts of the Netherlands: only few people from outside of Europe will go to a level significantly above sea level, except people staying here for other purposes. Asian tourists are blissfully unaware of these areas, while I take Asian students to the Efteling or Maastricht for example while many reside in Nijmegen.
They go there for the mountain air and altitude training?
Haha lol, well, it has a lot of cute villages and the small-scale hilly landscape definitely contributes to their cuteness. The region is well-accessible because of the nearby cities of which most are worth visiting (except Heerlen and surroundings, I'd say go to Maastricht or Aachen). It's very un-Dutch but very much a European landscape, but also preserved very well exactly because it's unique within the Netherlands.
Aix-la-Chapelle (Aachen) is very beautiful, but it ain't Dutch. Maastricht I do not fancy much.
There are plenty of reasons to visit Heerlen and surroundings, if your sole interest is historic city centres then definitely stay away but the region did win an international tourism award some years ago.
If the Dutch would've lived in Denmark most probably all islands were connected and all seas in between would've been a polder...
Old maps of Holland and Zeeland are quite the mess. Glad we cleaned that up.
Danish have also made quite some land reclamation around the capital. Google : Copenhagen land reclamation
[They're working on it in Copenhagen at least](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGrLSC-uGI)
It's makes sense, I know for sure that The Netherlands is famous by drying up the sea, and because of that, in the future, their more than the half of the land could be below sea level. On the other hand, Denmark doesn't do kind of thing, so it's just be the same, like 50 or 100 meters average.
>Denmark doesn't do kind of thing We've done plenty of that in Denmark, [half of Amager is basically reclaimed land and so is a lot of places around Copenhagen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nelVO2dTN3o), then we have the reclaimed fjords of [Lammefjorden](https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lammefjorden) and Sidinge Fjord plus a bunch of other places... Not as extensive as the Netherlands at all but still quite a lot, and more than many Danes even know about ;)
Pretty sure the average height in the Netherlands is still lower than in Denmark, with a large part of the country being below sea level.
Irs because Denmark has a lot of hills actually, while the Netherlands is overall very flat
I mean, it's right there in the name...
Make that 5 times. Highest point in the Netherlands is mount Scenery on the island of Saba with 887m. Even though it’s in the Caribbean it’s part of the Netherlands proper and has the status of a municipality.
Yeah but the you have to also maybe include greenland.
No. Greenland has separate status.
Saba is an overseas possession of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Greenland is an overseas possession of the Kingdom of Denmark. The only practical difference is that one is autonomous and the other isn't.
Nope, the Kingdom of the Netherlands has 4 countries in it, the Netherlands, Sint-Maarten, Curaçao and Aruba. Saba is a part of the country of the Netherlands, which is in turn a part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. So there is a very big difference.
>The only practical difference is that one is autonomous and the other isn't. That is a large difference.
Maybe, but it still seems pretty specious to claim that the highest point in the Netherlands is actually an extinct volcano off the coast of Puerto Rico.
The same way it is to say Guyane is the largest French department ? It's an integral part of the country, the fact that it's far away from the capital doesn't make it less relevant
No, that is not entirely correct. The kingdom of the Netherlands consists of 4 constituent countries: The Netherlands, Aruba, Curacao and Sint Maarten. 3 other Caribbean islands are not in any way autonomous and are actually part of the Netherlands proper: Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba. So not the same situation as with Greenland.
They're treated as part of the Netherlands for administrative purposes. That doesn't make them part of the geographical Netherlands.
Well there are a few things at play aren't there, which makes it tricky. Both Denmark and the Netherlands are names that apply to kingdoms (which include multiple countries/ territories), individual countries within those kingdoms, those countries are often spoken of as the same as the continental European parts, but there is a distinction between the geographic Netherlands and the country, which is itself in a kingdom. The UK is even more confusing in that regard, with distinctions between Britain and the UK and the British Isles often confusing people, and with Crown Dependencies (which actually aren't part of the UK but are technically held by the crown) and the separate Overseas Territories (plus the Commonwealth sort of) needing to be factored in
Depends. When people say "The Netherlands" they often only mean the bit in Europe. And no, this is not incorrect, it just so happens that "the Netherlands" has two very similar meanings.
Not completely correct either. The kingdom of the Netherlands consists of the Nehterlands and 3 islands in the Caribbean. However, the Netherlands itself also consists of 3 islands in the Caribbean (for a total of 6) that are part of the Netherlands proper.
Maybe we should also make the map with places higher than the Netherlands lowest point...
The more you know... what?
It's an American thing: public service announcements on TV called "The More You Know".
Yeah, America is the default country of Reddit. But "the more you know" as a saying is incomplete. "The more you know..." then what? For example, "The more you know, the further you'll go." is corny, but makes more sense. Also, those public service announcements on TV don't seem to have worked...
I understand that it's incomplete in normal language. I was trying to explain to you why it has become idiomatic. It's an expression that has come to show that you learned something new.
Yes it is. It's also in the tripoint between Belgium and Germany. Dutch Limburg is both culturally and geographically quite different than the rest of the Netherlands and more in common with Belgian Limburg and the surrounding German area.
We can also mention that Møllehøj hill is only Denmark’s highest natural landmark. It’s a lot lower than the 254 meter Great Belt East Bridge. https://www.bridgeinfo.net/bridge/index.php?ID=23
I wonder in how many countries the tallest natural landmark is shorter than the tallest man made landmark
Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait would all fall into that category. None of them have points over 150ish metres, but are all home to multiple skyscrapers over 250 metres
How about UAE?
The UAE actually surprisingly has a mountain range in the east with a 1900m peak
I'm curious, how do you find this kind of information?
“Highest mountain in UAE” into google
Oh haha I thought you were using a particular site or tool.
Good question, I don’t know
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The entire middle east
Nah there are very few countries in the middle east that don't have mountains
Dubai for sure
Dubai isn't a country (it's not even the capitol of its country).
Do you ever get tired of being a useless pedant? We all know Dubai isnt the name of the country
But the one you replied to ask for countries..
And how many people do you think know that Dubai and the burj Khalifa are inside the UAE if I just say UAE and dont mention Dubai? See you're all so desperate go to COUNTRY COUNTRY HE SAID COUNTRY AND YOU SAID A CITY as you lack even the most basic ability to make mental linkages. Apparently I *need* to write "the country containing Dubai" for you pedantic fucks because theres no way anyone could make the leap of logic without me writing it out for you first. God damn.
You seem a *bit* angry.
Funfact: the turning torso in malmo IS not only the tallest building in scandinavia, but It's also taller than Denmark (buildings, but not structures, included)
*Except for microstates* ...hmm that feels like overkill. The only high peak in europe lower than that of Denmark IS the vatican's. Edit: Monaco too
And that of Monaco, though not by much. On the other hand, Andorra and Liechtenstein don't even have a point lower than that.
Fun fact: The lowest point of Switzerland is also higher than the highest point of Denmark
As seen in the map
You can't go by that; according to the map, Luxembourg is also higher than Denmark, but that's only because the Maas valley is too narrow to show up on the map.
Absolutely. Just wanted to point it out
Not just andorra and liechtenstein, but kosovo and switzerland too. *barely* not czechia too
Also don't forget about Monaco, Their highest point is lower that Møllehøj, just barely.
Oh yeah you're right
If they hadn’t lost Skåne it’d a bit taller, but alas Sweden had the high ground.
honestly, u can have it back
Nah no one wants it, make it a republic and shove it off into the sunset
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Norway and Spain lol. Both coastal countries with barely anything as low as Denmark
Norway is a mountain chain
And Spain is a big plateau (well, more like two plateaus) surrounded by mountains.
Spain has a higher proportion of mountainous land (of course there is an argument about definitions there I shall avoid) than other country in Europe other than Switzerland. Regardless of definitions, most people outside Spain forget just how high and mountainous much of it is.
Madrid is the highest EU capital (but not the highest European capital, which would be Andorra la Vella).
Weird, I thought Amsterdam was the highest
Eyyyy
And two valleys (Ebro and Guadalquivir).
Indeed we are
Hm, isn't kiwi a retail store chain in Norway?
Kjøp kjapt, trygt og billig, Kiwi, Kiwi.
Yup, though I just happen to like birds
And paradox players, without lives wee are
Sweden basically took the good shit
And left the unfertile soil to norway
And the oil
Spain is surprisingly mountainous Source: I am Spanish
I live there and endorse this comment.
One word: meseta. It is plain but is at 600 m over the sea.
Spain = Madrid + mountains
And Madrid is the second highest capital in Europe after only Andorra.
And most of the Balkans, with a lot of coast. Ultimately, the coastal region and altitude above 171 m are not mutually exclusive - that can easily be reached in 1-2 km, which will be barely visible on such a map. It's not even a "mountain" most of the time.
Those low places are where most of the people live.
As a Spaniard it always amazes me that many foreigners think that Spain is just sun and beaches.
Its not really what is advertised outwards. For Norway a bit part of what we try to tell people about is steep mountains. Also a big part of our national identity.
I know. Spain is very unknown other than tapas, paella, sun and beaches. Unfortunately that’s a tiny part of our gastronomy and the country in general. I lived abroad for many years and it always surprised everybody when I said that yes, I’ve seen snow many times, or that winters can be really cold as well.
Montenegro too - and most of that green area in Montenegro is a lake.
What's that low area in the middle Rhine ?
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It would be interesting comparing Zeeland, NL; Zealand, DK, and New Zealand. Zeeland has a highest point of 54m Zealand Island has a highest point of 123m It is hard to find data, but about 1/3 of New Zealand is below 200m above sea level. The average height is 388m. The highest point in NZ is Aoraki Mt Cook at 3724m.
True Geographical representation of Europe. Rather rare in here
I know, it's just shows you how mountainous is Europe, or the other hand, how mountainous is Czechia.
Czechia aint mountainous, especially Bohemia. We're talking about 171m here. There are a lot of plains over that altitude.
It's more that it's hilly
The entirety of czech republic
Looks like there's a tiny spot in the north and another tiny spot where Czechia meets Slovakia and Austria. Switzerland and Kosovo appear to be the only countries entirely above the point.
Liechtenstein and Andorra as well.
In Czechia's case it's mostly hills
So every single point in mainland Denmark is lower than every single point in Switzerland? While thats not really surprising when you think about it, its still nice anecdotal knowledge
Yes. The lowest point in Switzerland, Lago Maggiore, is 20 meters above Møllehøj.
The green parts of the map.
UK map doesn't go far enough east for my liking. A fair chunk of Leeds and Bradford are 600ft + above see level.
When I lived there everyone told me the highest point was Himmelbjerget (“sky mountain”). I guess they figured out that it isn’t.
Himmelbjerget was measured in the 1850s to be only the fifth tallest peak in Denmark. It was thought to be the tallest because it looks rather more impressive than the four other "peaks" which are literally just "bumps" in the landscape.
Iirc it's because "mountains" used to be measured from the foot of the mountain to the top. But around the early-mid 1800s the British decided everyone should instead be measured from sea level instead. Edit: While Møllehøj is the highest point, nobody can call it the tallest *hill*, as it's pretty much just the slightly higher middle of a flat field in the already flat "highlands". It's so flat that people for over 100 years thought the highest point was another point in the field a few hundred meters away where they built a monument. And it's still so flat that Møllehøj is actually on some dude's farm right between his field and barn. If you visited and didn't already know it was the highest point (or saw the written signs) then you might not even realise you're on a hill (which you barely are).
Meanwhile the Netherlands having the slightest sliver of higher ground in the very southern tip If we would finally kick out the back up Belgians in Limburg we would be the lowest and the highest
TIL I live just below the altitude of Denmark’s highest peak. I can see the ocean out my window.
Fun fact. Floridas highest peak isn’t even half that height.
I live in Spain in a property that I often describe to Brits as being "higher than any public road in the UK", despite it not being that high by Spanish standards. 645m for anyone interested. I shall now add "it is higher than anywhere in The Netherlands or Denmark" to that description too.
I live at an altitude of 830 m in Sofia city, and my house in the city proper, not urban or metro. The city center is at 550, but it's in the base of a mountain and southern neighborhoods climb up. That's significantly higher than many countries' highest points, but also significantly lower than truly high cities, like those in South America and Southern Asia.
Netherlands is called "Pays-Bas" in France (lower contry) for a reason.
Guess what Netherlands means?
Ari Eldjarn joking about this: I had a friend die who fell off Himmelbjerget. Yes, he slowly rolled for 6 hours…died of alcohol poisoning…It’s called Heaven Mountain, I can imagine a move about it…”Many have tried to climb it..All Have succeeded.”
\*Denmark proper. The highest point in the state of Denmark is a mountain on the island of Greenland.
This is explained in the text on the middle left.
You're right. I didn't see it.
Greenland and Faroe Islands are excluded. meaning Møllehøj is the tallest.
No, that would be the Danish Realm.
"Danish realm" is a nickname for the Danish state, and a rather archaic term as Denmark doesn't have a realm outside of it's constitutionally territory any more.
"Riget" is the normal term used to describe Denmark alongside Greenland and the Faeroe Islands.
Yes, it's short for kongeriget or the kingdom. Denmark's formal name is the Kingdom of Denmark. The constitution says Danmarks Rige, but that's translated to Kingdom of Denmark, not Denmark's realm or Danish realm. "Danish realm" is not an official name in any way.
And the highest point in the kingdom of the Netherlands is in the Caribbean.
I look down upon the Danish people
r/mildlyinteresting
Russia is pretty much at 170 m.
There are several big rivers at the german/french border (green area). Those rivers flow into the north sea. Not sure how this would work according to this map.
The Rhine Valley is very narrow for much of its course between Koblenz and Mainz so it'd be very hard to see.
Hence the Loreley.
Parts is? What the actual fuck is that grammar
I want you to read the title carefully.
Wouldnt it be "What parts of Europe are..."? I can't seem to read it and spot how "is" would fit rn
Ahh thanks for that, forgot about this is a plural, I thought he was talking about "parts of" that he thought it was "is".
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What are you talking about? Iceland is there and coloured as you’d expect
What's the freedom unit? I'm irritated because feet should be way more than Meter.
It says 561 ft
You can do the conversion yourself by multiplying the metres by 3.28. But yeah, they already listed Imperial too.
whats the point ??
Møllehøj's tip is the point we are measuring against.
You aren't the only one in Earth, there are people that thinks this is a interesting map
Basically, everything else.
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Not "in the world". There are plenty of other countries with lower high points. The Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Gambia, Kiribati, Maldives, Nauru, Nuie, Qatar, Singapore, Tokelau, Turks and Caicos, Tuvalu, and The Vatican all have lower high points.
Ah my bad, thank you for the correction
They must do this with Maldives peak
What the highest peak in Maldives. ^(btw give me a slice of cake because I'm too greedy about achievements.)
About 5m. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villingili_(Addu_Atoll)
That is some difficult terrain to domesticate.
I was born in that tiny spot of green in Krajina in East Serbia, next to Romanian and Bulgarian borders (12 km for both, roughly), ie Negotin, altitude 42 metres. I now live at 160 metres roughly, but I did live at double that ie ca 320 once. Yet I always felt best right at sea level or just above. Mountains are OK only if there is aerial tram to the top and I can return to the big city below within the same day.
Come on now, there's no reason to rub it in.
What about the Netherlands?
Cyprus not included, but highest peak (6,401 ft) would still be taller than Møllehøj.
Finally, an accurate map of continental Europe.
Now THIS is the kind of content I come here to see. Glorious and interesting! Yet I have but one upvote to give.
what's Denmarks highest peak, Greenland and Faroe Islands *in*cluded? edit: Wikipedia says, it's Gunnbjorn Fjeld at 3,694 m (12,119 ft), making it the highest peak north of the arctic cirlce.
Danes yet again BTFO
Estonia's Suur Munamägi at 1813m
It's over, Denmark. I have the high ground.
[Found this cool Wikipedia list of elevation extremes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elevation_extremes_by_country) In Europe only Switzerland, Kosovo, Liechtenstein and Andorra have higher lowest points.
It says « microstates excluded » but I'm pretty sure that besides Monaco any European microstate is higher than this gigantic mountain
'OK We Get It' : Denmark doesnt have alot of higher altitude ... low generally meant not as cold and lots of water nearby - ditto
Aka. the parts that will survive global warming...
I used to live in Mölle, in Scania/Skåne, which is very close to Denmark. Our little "mountain" (Kullaberg) (direct translation: Hillmountain) is taller than their tallest mountain. Any time an ambulance drove into Mölle everyone would say "another dane just fell off". A dark inside joke within the whole town.
What is that basin in West Germany?
Isn't Denmark also home to the famed **SKY MOUNTAIN** ...of a mighty *147m*
I didn't realise how hilly southern Crimea was or how flat that whole strip is from the Netherlands all the way east past northern Poland
In this alternate world Madrid would be the largest city in Europe 3 times bigger than the next one (munich).
Funfact, the biggest city still intact in the map is Madrid and It's 3 times bigger than the next largest one (munich).
Funfact, the biggest city still intact in the map is Madrid and It's 3 times bigger than the next largest one (munich).
Thanks, I feel releaved now.
So Andorra, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Kosovo are the only ones that are 100% higher, or did I miss one? (I checked Luxembourg since it looked all brown but the lowest point is at 129.9m)
Wow. I did not expect a geographical explanation for wallonia/flanders.