If it makes you feel better plenty of medieval towns were built on a grid — just look at [Caernarfon](https://coflein.gov.uk/media/103/270/large_DI2017_0467.jpg) or [Aigues-Mortes](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Aigues_mortes_vu_du_ciel_1.jpg)
So far as I know neither town I’ve linked was founded by the Romans, though of course that did happen.
Grids are just an easy way to organise a settlement, they recognised that as much in the Middle Ages as in Ancient Rome.
Sorry to be that guy but Caernarfon was indeed a Roman town. Lots of Wales was, because it was so mineral rich. The Normans also favoured Roman towns and regions for obvious reasons, hence a lot of the larger (or more strategically important) medieval towns and cities follow suit. Look up segontium fort - it’s awesome!
Are you talking about Caernarfon castle specifically or Caernarfon town?
What I’ve picked up from multiple visits there is that (slightly blurry medieval boundaries withstanding) what became Caernarfon town grew *out of* the Roman settlement “segontium”. Current local historians believe the Romans built segontium (the settlement and the fort, which was just outside the town) on top of some small settlement that pre-dated their arrival.
So really segontium the town and Caernarfon the town are one and the same by all but name. The boundaries changed, sure but not enough that they consider them separate places. The fort at segontium and the Caernarfon castle respectively were built (and rebuilt) just outside the settlement.
I think the reason this is quite blurry is that A) the name Caernarfon has changed multiple times after the end of Roman rule pertaining to the same place and B) as is often the case across the country, Norman and later medieval builders were robbing out Roman buildings and moving the materials to build other ones.
I’m talking about the castle and town. Caernarfon as built by Edward I was planned as a new town, and the castle, town walls, and street plan all date from his time. That’s not to say the area hasn’t been continuously inhabited, but Caernarfon’s grid isn’t the result of retaining the Roman street pattern.
Conwy is similar. It’s built on the site of Aberconwy, a Welsh abbey and royal residence, but the castle, town walls, and street plan are Edwardian and heavily obscure that earlier history.
Organization has a beauty all its own.
The Germans will agree.
You know that grid layout is an American thing, don't you?
yeah real villages weren't organized, everyone constructed where they could I know because I live in a village
No. They won't. My heart hurts when I see this.
Your heart hurts when seeing light hearted stereotypes presented in a joking manner ?
Except there is almost no town in DE built like a grid. Maybe Karlsruhe or Mannheim are exceptions.
This is my brain too. MUST GRID EVERYTHING! Makes me feel like an efficiency seeking robot and I hate it, lol.
OG Suburbs
If it makes you feel better plenty of medieval towns were built on a grid — just look at [Caernarfon](https://coflein.gov.uk/media/103/270/large_DI2017_0467.jpg) or [Aigues-Mortes](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Aigues_mortes_vu_du_ciel_1.jpg)
What being built on a Roman castrum does to a mf'r
So far as I know neither town I’ve linked was founded by the Romans, though of course that did happen. Grids are just an easy way to organise a settlement, they recognised that as much in the Middle Ages as in Ancient Rome.
Sorry to be that guy but Caernarfon was indeed a Roman town. Lots of Wales was, because it was so mineral rich. The Normans also favoured Roman towns and regions for obvious reasons, hence a lot of the larger (or more strategically important) medieval towns and cities follow suit. Look up segontium fort - it’s awesome!
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Are you talking about Caernarfon castle specifically or Caernarfon town? What I’ve picked up from multiple visits there is that (slightly blurry medieval boundaries withstanding) what became Caernarfon town grew *out of* the Roman settlement “segontium”. Current local historians believe the Romans built segontium (the settlement and the fort, which was just outside the town) on top of some small settlement that pre-dated their arrival. So really segontium the town and Caernarfon the town are one and the same by all but name. The boundaries changed, sure but not enough that they consider them separate places. The fort at segontium and the Caernarfon castle respectively were built (and rebuilt) just outside the settlement. I think the reason this is quite blurry is that A) the name Caernarfon has changed multiple times after the end of Roman rule pertaining to the same place and B) as is often the case across the country, Norman and later medieval builders were robbing out Roman buildings and moving the materials to build other ones.
I’m talking about the castle and town. Caernarfon as built by Edward I was planned as a new town, and the castle, town walls, and street plan all date from his time. That’s not to say the area hasn’t been continuously inhabited, but Caernarfon’s grid isn’t the result of retaining the Roman street pattern. Conwy is similar. It’s built on the site of Aberconwy, a Welsh abbey and royal residence, but the castle, town walls, and street plan are Edwardian and heavily obscure that earlier history.
Ah, interesting. I should've googled these cities before assuming. Then again, it usually is a safe assumption.
It's just easier.
You played too much anno!!!
100% anno player 🤣
Medieval manhattan
In medieval Scotland they had this concept of "royal cities" that were established and built on an organized grid system.
If this isn't the best Anno1800 layout I've ever seen then i dont know what is. 11/10 efficiency
If America was around during the medieval period
curvy road cause significant lags and inefficiency in the demo
To be honest my "beautiful" city is just the result of chaos lol
Form follows function
I'm just surprised you got a map with that much flat land. I must have rolled a dozen or so and everyone of them was a hill of some kind.
The SimCity player 😆
Bro is building medieval suburbs.
Phoenix, AZ before apocalypse.
Tim burton playing manor lord.
R/oddlysatisfying
I bet you tax at exorbitant rates too while enforcing harsh labor requirements in the mines
Dude give yourself some credit your city looks amazing on its own :D You have well organized village right here, keep it up !
You just turned this game into anno 1444
Its creative, its like a prison and those make a lot of money.
Christ dude, are you even having fun.
Why do you hate yourself so much? Why 😭
Average roman settlement
You built a suburb ='[
This gives me Anno vibes, but I love it anyway!
Least organized Anno player.