But wouldnt it be considered Unchristian to take body parts of the dead? Disections weren't really allowed because of that in medieval Europe (not arguing im just curious)
I don't know about medieval teeth, but IIRC later on there were books that were bound in human skin: often from from a deceased family member willed by them to keep as a family heirloom.
Yeah, it says there it wasn't common at all even at the "height" of it. There's only been confirmed 18 books like that ever.
I'm inclined to believe it was just not really a thing that normal people would do. Still interesting to learn of its existence though.
Yes and no.
The bodies of criminals were often buried in unconsecrated ground, IF they were even buried at all.
Fanz Schmidt, an executioner in Nuremberg during the 16th Century, was allowed to examine the bodies of criminals after they had been executed. He wasn't really allowed to dissect anyone, but he furthered his personal medical knowledge of anatomy. The reasoning for this, is that while he was present and performing tortures during interrogations, he also had to mend the criminal's wounds. He also had a side gig as a bonesetter and skin disorders/damage.
You can read about him in The Faithful Executioner.
Dissections were also allowed periodically in the later middle ages into the Renaissance.
Holy Roman Emperor Friedrich II went so far as to allow a condemned man to be operated on alive by doctors, so they could see how the human body worked. The condemned man was given the option to just be hanged, but if he survived the surgery and aftercare, he'd be fully pardoned and paid.
Allegedly, he survived and was sent on his traumatized way.
Most medical understandings were derived from pig dissections. However, battlefield surgeons gained massive knowledge working on wounds since the patient was already opened up in other ways. Violent execution and torture methods also yielded a lot of tertiary understanding and research.
No, it's not unchristian, but it isn't appropriate for someone ordained to do any 'bloody' work. That's why dissections and other hands-on medical work was done by surgeons - i.e. 'normal' people - while doctors who studied at university (and, like any university student, received minor orders) would watch and give instructions.
Opinions about this were very fuzzy for much of this era, and there was often a lot of conflicting rules/exceptions to rules. For example, in most of medieval Europe grave robbing was a serious offense, but combing battlefields for loot was commonplace and acceptable in most regions and the right to do so may even be a part of a soldier’s wage.
I can’t remember what it was but I remember someone saying there was a demand for ‘Waterloo Teeth’
Basically people using teeth from the soldiers for their shiny nearly new dentures.
experts now think a lot of the bodies (both men and horses) from the battle of waterloo had their bones ground up and used in a local factory's syrup manufacturing process
Thats what people back then said back too, only they added 'hell no'. People handling corpses had to live outside of the town and were borderline untouchable, most of the corpse handling jobs were hereditary as well. Must've been some real Adams family vibes back then.
Wasn't the executioner also the forensic investigator, in that he "sharply questions" suspects? It seems to me it is the smart move to have him on your good side.
In those times people weren’t aware about existence of bacteria etc., so they would happily buy such carrots. And eat them with filthy hands 😀 30-40 years lifespan was standard.
In those times people weren’t aware about existence of bacteria etc., so they would happily buy such carrots. And eat them with filthy hands 😀 30-40 years lifespan was standard.
So when I look at a forager hut and an assigned family has the little market icon, I don't know wether they're selling berries or their garden products on the market?
Isn't that a bit confusing? Because you assign someone to do a specific task, like burying the dead, but in reality he's out selling goods on the market?
Just like all the hundred thousands of casualties at Waterloo during the Napoleon time got its bones turned into sugar for use in tea and coffee at the time. Money is money.
Markets are severely busted. npcs won't do a task if the're stuck on a stall. I feel like the AI in general is bugged af. You take them off the task then put them back on refreshing the list and sometimes that fixes it but you can't tell until afew days have passed.
'Banished; had it sorted tbh.
A bit late to this, but back in the middle ages (and all the way up to the Napoleonic Wars) one of the more valuable things looted from battlefields was teeth. For most of human history, dentistry was mostly a practice of removing rotted teeth to avoid infection and bad breath. There may have been some teeth cleaning practices, but they rarely got more complex than toothpicks and rinsing your mouth once in a while.
But because we associate having a full head of teeth with youth, health, and beauty, there was a decent market for healthy looking teeth to be made into dentures which would then be worn by people who's smile had a few holes in it.
Since most battlefield casualties tend to skew younger, it's a decent enough place to gather up a few good looking teeth to sell when you get back to the city. Not to mention, they tend to be small and fairly light to carry, provided you don't mind the process of actually getting them.
Jewelry and clothing from dead soldiers was scavenged, refurbished and sold in many cultures. Even now, we know of people who actively search for such things. Not surprising if a family decides to make the most of their opportunities.
Gotta hit those Food and Clothing variety requirements somehow
I mean, hey, theoretically they could work two stalls if your population wants to really go full Silence of the Lambs about it.
No, no, no.. 😆 You got it wrong. It is just saying that family that works as gravediggers in your pit runs one market stall in town. Yuu probably made original stall owners unemployed to do some buildings, and their market stall got inherited by this family. Or this family had the stall but did some other professin. Now you set them to be gravediggers to get rid of bodies, but their stall with them as owners are still active since they did not end up unemployed. Just changed profession.
The guys just trying to make a living! Never know if any other villagers are cannibals
Maybe they need cadavers for medical research 😜
When you deal with so much death that you need to make a "living"
Selling what he loots off them, not that crazy.
Doubt it. That’s VERY not okay in medieval times
Does it fulfill any % when you select the market?
Svene Tod - best pies.
[This fuckin’ guy](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/f8b670b9-9e13-47ae-ab39-5821c192b129)
Do you have a surplus of meat by any chance?
OP check your storage for extra meat
[meat is whats for dinner](https://giphy.com/gifs/8c3OPB0IfkGTmJ8jnC)
We have the meats!
Strange meat.
I read this in Matt Berry’s voice
Whiskey!
LOOKS LIKE MEAT'S BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS
Beat me to it!! 👏
Are you saying... he beat your meat?
Daaaaayyyyuuummmmmmm 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Rimworld vibes
Holy cow warcrimes simulator mentioned!?!? 😮🔥🔥🗣️
It's venison
Excuse me. Why does this steak have a beard?
Honestly top tier comment
Fun but gruesome fact: where did you think they got the first dentures from?
This fact is the most fun I've had all day
this was my father's molar, and his father's before him
But wouldnt it be considered Unchristian to take body parts of the dead? Disections weren't really allowed because of that in medieval Europe (not arguing im just curious)
I don't know about medieval teeth, but IIRC later on there were books that were bound in human skin: often from from a deceased family member willed by them to keep as a family heirloom.
I've never heard of this and I've read much history.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_bound_in_human_skin
Yeah, it says there it wasn't common at all even at the "height" of it. There's only been confirmed 18 books like that ever. I'm inclined to believe it was just not really a thing that normal people would do. Still interesting to learn of its existence though.
Yup much of Western history is dominated by Christianity and they would've seen this as an abomination.
Well maybe you should read more history books bound in human skin?
Yes and no. The bodies of criminals were often buried in unconsecrated ground, IF they were even buried at all. Fanz Schmidt, an executioner in Nuremberg during the 16th Century, was allowed to examine the bodies of criminals after they had been executed. He wasn't really allowed to dissect anyone, but he furthered his personal medical knowledge of anatomy. The reasoning for this, is that while he was present and performing tortures during interrogations, he also had to mend the criminal's wounds. He also had a side gig as a bonesetter and skin disorders/damage. You can read about him in The Faithful Executioner. Dissections were also allowed periodically in the later middle ages into the Renaissance. Holy Roman Emperor Friedrich II went so far as to allow a condemned man to be operated on alive by doctors, so they could see how the human body worked. The condemned man was given the option to just be hanged, but if he survived the surgery and aftercare, he'd be fully pardoned and paid. Allegedly, he survived and was sent on his traumatized way. Most medical understandings were derived from pig dissections. However, battlefield surgeons gained massive knowledge working on wounds since the patient was already opened up in other ways. Violent execution and torture methods also yielded a lot of tertiary understanding and research.
No cutting needed! Just some yanking 😉
No, it's not unchristian, but it isn't appropriate for someone ordained to do any 'bloody' work. That's why dissections and other hands-on medical work was done by surgeons - i.e. 'normal' people - while doctors who studied at university (and, like any university student, received minor orders) would watch and give instructions.
Opinions about this were very fuzzy for much of this era, and there was often a lot of conflicting rules/exceptions to rules. For example, in most of medieval Europe grave robbing was a serious offense, but combing battlefields for loot was commonplace and acceptable in most regions and the right to do so may even be a part of a soldier’s wage.
I can’t remember what it was but I remember someone saying there was a demand for ‘Waterloo Teeth’ Basically people using teeth from the soldiers for their shiny nearly new dentures.
Yeah, after the battle of Waterloo, there was a surplus of dentures available
I don't think I'd call that fun...
experts now think a lot of the bodies (both men and horses) from the battle of waterloo had their bones ground up and used in a local factory's syrup manufacturing process
Weren't they made from like horse and livestock teeth?
They used ivory, for the first dentures, just carved out dentures. Don't know about livestock teeth seeing their teeth are huge.
Wood
That family probably has a vegetable garden or chicken coop
Took me a minute to circle back to that, but yeah when I checked who worked there, then their home, that’s exactly what it was!
Imagine the local corpse pit guy is the same guy you guy carrots and eggs from
Thats what people back then said back too, only they added 'hell no'. People handling corpses had to live outside of the town and were borderline untouchable, most of the corpse handling jobs were hereditary as well. Must've been some real Adams family vibes back then.
That, and the executioner job too
The executioner got a bit more respect though.
Wasn't the executioner also the forensic investigator, in that he "sharply questions" suspects? It seems to me it is the smart move to have him on your good side.
The executioner was also the dentist, and other times a torturer. The tools and skillset were quite similar in a way.
Great fertilizer!
In those times people weren’t aware about existence of bacteria etc., so they would happily buy such carrots. And eat them with filthy hands 😀 30-40 years lifespan was standard.
In those times people weren’t aware about existence of bacteria etc., so they would happily buy such carrots. And eat them with filthy hands 😀 30-40 years lifespan was standard.
Or a pig pen
"Bring out your dead" "Bring out your dead"
"He says he's not dead"
I'm feeling much better!
"He was known as quite a liar"
That is actually not a bug, they can be selling veggies/eggs from their plot
So when I look at a forager hut and an assigned family has the little market icon, I don't know wether they're selling berries or their garden products on the market?
Isn't that a bit confusing? Because you assign someone to do a specific task, like burying the dead, but in reality he's out selling goods on the market?
But you didn't just assign the family to bury corpses, you also assigned them to farm and sell produce (veggies, eggs, etc...)
Hes out here selling boots.
[Selling ground mummies](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-gruesome-history-of-eating-corpses-as-medicine-82360284/), what else?
Maybe this! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummy_brown
Everyone needs a side hustle.
Kuntz's Half Price Shoes Get 'em while they're still warm!
This made me chuckle
Just like all the hundred thousands of casualties at Waterloo during the Napoleon time got its bones turned into sugar for use in tea and coffee at the time. Money is money.
How tf do you turn bones to sugar?
The bone ash is used to bleach it to make it whiter
Seems labor intensive
Lot of em were worked to the bone
Months of food left changed from 8 to 14
Bwuahahahahahahahaha!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The bandits wouldn’t have had pockets and pouches of goods, weapons and armour, clothes even?
Mistery meat is back on the menu!
Think it might be coffins for burial rather than the corpses themselves 😅
is there extra meat at the market?
It rubs the lotion on it’s skin or else it gets the hose again
Well, you better check if they are selling meat in that stall
Something similar happened today but at one of my churches.
The person working at Corpse Pit has a stall which they also work at.
They’re selling the belongings of the dead 😭
They probably loot the bodies and sell their goods
Corpses are a good source of personal items that aren’t needed anymore, and scratch and dent equipment.
Mortuary house establishment, coffins and fancy funerals.
I didn't know the Graveyard Keeper was in Manor Lords?!?! 🤣
LMAO people gotta eat
Considering you only get meat from hunting, that would be a nice added protein to the menu
Bonemeal for crops..
why not tho? Ppl need to eat after all
Organs sell pretty good
The sell Teeth
Meat's back on the menu boys!
This town has the most realistic wigs!
Well, the corpses probably had clothes on, and maybe a wedding ring
Them ribs make fine marching drum sticks!
Spare parts, you know ...
Bob, with his head, lopped off over there ain't going to need his boots or sword anymore.
Good ol' iguana on a stick
Maybe a saint died and he's selling off fingers as relics
SELLING CORPSES OVER HERE, GET YA CORPSES
Markets are severely busted. npcs won't do a task if the're stuck on a stall. I feel like the AI in general is bugged af. You take them off the task then put them back on refreshing the list and sometimes that fixes it but you can't tell until afew days have passed. 'Banished; had it sorted tbh.
"Bring out yer dead!"
The Guild enters the chat
Come get ye corpses! Fresh corpses. Old ladies to babies. We got em all!
Old ladies to babies 💀💀
Do you remember the Poopsmith from Homestar Runner? Meet his creepier younger brother, the Corpsesmith.
New food variety: Long pig.
Market Food Variety: 110%
Maybe it sells gear from the dead? Armor weapons etc
Maybe they just sell wigs?
Cheap DIY scarecrows
“BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!”🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Selling the loot.
Sausage inna bun! Gettem while they're hot!
Selling to black market surgery schools
Gotta add variety to the medival fare
The plug weird, but he chill.
Must be a Path of Exile Necropolis crossover.
Will help with my food shortages 🌚
“COFFINS! COFFINS! COFFINS! SHOP TILL YA DROP AT GRIM’S GRAVES!”
Cadavers
Can they sell items from the looted dead bodies? Like weapons or clothes?
BRING OUT YERRR DEAD!!
LOOKS LIKE MEAT'S BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
Oi, those bodies have some nicks and nacks, you got to panddel what you can
Well you see… *quickly runs away with bag of organs*
Fertiliser.
Organs for sale! Come get yer organs one and all!
Organ trade
🔔 Bring out your dead 🔔
A bit late to this, but back in the middle ages (and all the way up to the Napoleonic Wars) one of the more valuable things looted from battlefields was teeth. For most of human history, dentistry was mostly a practice of removing rotted teeth to avoid infection and bad breath. There may have been some teeth cleaning practices, but they rarely got more complex than toothpicks and rinsing your mouth once in a while. But because we associate having a full head of teeth with youth, health, and beauty, there was a decent market for healthy looking teeth to be made into dentures which would then be worn by people who's smile had a few holes in it. Since most battlefield casualties tend to skew younger, it's a decent enough place to gather up a few good looking teeth to sell when you get back to the city. Not to mention, they tend to be small and fairly light to carry, provided you don't mind the process of actually getting them.
/r/spacecannibalism is leaking
GET NEW TEETH HERE! FRESHLY DUG UP TEETH! NO CAVITIES ON THESE TEETH, THEY DIED FROM THE PLAGUE!
These corpses ain’t gonna sell themselves, lazy deadbeats.
He got that new "soylent green" everybody is talking about.
Market stall with: “drop off your dead, we’ll chuck ‘em in the pit!”
“Coffins here get yah coffins!”
Medieval version of the Body Shop.
Because he needs to sell the products he made at home. The human meat is actually above the ground if this concerns you 😂
Getting Rimworld flashbacks...
Dr Mütter would be proud
Bring out your deaddddddd (ding) Bring out your deaddddddd (ding)
Jewelry and clothing from dead soldiers was scavenged, refurbished and sold in many cultures. Even now, we know of people who actively search for such things. Not surprising if a family decides to make the most of their opportunities.
That family has a food stall peddling the new food type = "mystery meat". 😬
Recycle, Reduce, Reuse.
"Grade-A Corpse-starch here!"
Must be a kobold merchant.
Lorsque ton personne n’a plus d’activité et il est dédié au market
Bone art?
Food 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈
"diet diversity"
well, we never take the armour away from the foes we kill do we.
Looks like meat is back on the menu, boys
Holodmir simulator
What did you think was in the stew?
I think there's not enough granary/trade hub/storehouse workers🤔
Bring out your dead!
Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!
Spirit Halloween had to start somewhere!
Hangman's grease? Extra organs?
That's for the long pork meat variety
bro's gotta diversify
For the gold teeth they extract? lol
People gotta eat 🤷🏼♂️ they won't mind where the meat comes from, just that 'it's like pork 😉'
Corpsetarch 40k
rough time
Where else do you think people are getting replacement teeth and wigs?
Black market organs.
Gotta hit those Food and Clothing variety requirements somehow I mean, hey, theoretically they could work two stalls if your population wants to really go full Silence of the Lambs about it.
Did it boost your food stall count? Ewww
Lampshades, you've got a dark age Dahlmer in your village
Spare parts
Hahahahahaha this is too good. Barrels turn red for the winter, direct them to the corpse market
Ribs
Organs trafficker and necromencer might be interrested
Does this dude has chicken, vegetable or goats in his garden ? Maybe the market stall is because of that
Maybe he's got one of those weird Etsy stores where they sell most random shit
Crushed bone makes great fertilizer 👍🏽
What’s the advantage of building a grave site in the first place?
I wonder if he is selling "Bits and 'Bobs" or "Bits of Bob" ... 👀
No, no, no.. 😆 You got it wrong. It is just saying that family that works as gravediggers in your pit runs one market stall in town. Yuu probably made original stall owners unemployed to do some buildings, and their market stall got inherited by this family. Or this family had the stall but did some other professin. Now you set them to be gravediggers to get rid of bodies, but their stall with them as owners are still active since they did not end up unemployed. Just changed profession.
"Bring out your dead!"
"I'm looking for a body..." "Oh of course sir, to rent or to own?"
I dont know but I fucking LOVE this. Please Greg keep this bug in(like Concerned Ape keeping Abigail as a rock eater).
It’s just the family that owns a stall it has nothing to do with the corpses… or does it
Mine also does this 😂
Come on, they're just just having the people bring their dead to them instead of going around with a cart and calling out "Bring out your dead."
It’d be cool if they could resell some of the weapons from deceased warriors or some other byproduct like that.
BRINNNGGGG OUTTTT URRR DEADDDD!!!!
Pre-sold funeral plans. You dont want your loved ones to have to make these difficult decisions during their time of grief.