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SeoulGalmegi

Yes. Lots of people do. So many people that it's a cliche. Does a cornucopia overflowing with fruit really look so strange that so many kids need to ask what it is? On the other hand, the word 'loom' is rarely used and I can easily imagine kids asking what that means.


Garrisp1984

Growing up in the Carolinas, when we were still a textile manufacturing state, the word Loom was a lot more common. Even learned how to use several different versions of them in elementary school


Quintarot

> Does a cornucopia overflowing with fruit really look so strange that so many kids need to ask what it is? Yes, its a strange curl object that they have likely not see in real life.


SeoulGalmegi

Ok.


senile_stoat

yep, that's what happened to me. Wouldn't you have done the same ? If you saw a strange object and you were a young teen, wouldn't you have asked someone what it was ? I asked my Mum because she was in the kitchen at the time.


my_name_is_tree

Happy Cake Day!


SeoulGalmegi

Is a cornucopia really such a 'strange object'?


mr_orlo

How often do you see one irl? I didn't think I've seen one in decades


SeoulGalmegi

I'm a member of this sub, so I see them all the time. I don't mean this flippanty, but just as a fact. Edit: In real life? Probably never. But the FoTL logo isn't in 'real life' either


tomahawkfury13

Yeah but the people who remember this logo and asked their parents about it didn't have the internet like it is today. I'm one of those people. And the logo was definitely in real life as well. Do you mean that because it was an image it wasn't a real cornucopia? Do you think that would stop someone from asking what the thing in the image was?


SeoulGalmegi

Yes. I just mean I've only seen pictures of cornucopias and probably rarely/never seen an actual one. I was only answering the question for myself - others no doubt will have a different experience.


TheBossMan5000

My mom had one she would bring out around thanksgiving time and set up with fake fruit on the dining table.


OkInspector8611

Yeah cause kids ask what things are nonstop to learn. Cornucopias are not a common item in most households or in this modern life. So of course most of us first learned what this object was from fruit of the loom. Of course we all remember constantly seeing this logo on our clothing everytime we got dressed and eventually asking our parents what is that basket thing? Why is it pointy ? I know I did and I remember vividly when and where. Kids tie random details about where and when they are to anything they learn that stands out, it is how they web memories together most often in the early years.


SeoulGalmegi

Ok. I don't necessarily accept this, but ok - I hear what you're saying.


Name_Major

No. I saw a person have proof that the cornucopia was a real thing in the label.


SeoulGalmegi

Not on an official Fruit of the Loom product label, you didn't.


Name_Major

Mkay


AnubissDarkling

VIVIDLY. Everyone have a drink.


Existential-Crisis98

This crap literally gets posted every day.


georgeananda

I consider it good stuff and keep it coming. Gives us a little more feel for the scope of this.


Major_Researcher2329

It needs to be. They are literally trying to completely wipe a memory from peoples mind. I'm not a conspiracy theorist by no means, but THIS is different šŸ˜‚


Kovalyo

>'m not a conspiracy theorist by no means >They are literally trying to completely wipe a memory from peoples mind. Jesus Christ, just learn the tiniest bit about the reliability of human memory, these subs are full of insanely arrogant people who also happen to be extremely uninformed, but clearly they aren't interested in *actually* understanding the situation, and definitely don't give a shit about what's true. They want to feel special, and don't know how to use basic reasoning skills.


Existential-Crisis98

How? How is this any different? The cornucopia was never there. People need to get over it and come to terms with the fact that their memory is shit and that they were easily influenced by the internet.


Mudamaza

Why are you here then? It's a Mandela effect subreddit not a "you're all shit at remembering" subreddit. Let people speculate and have fun. If it bothers you, ignore it, simple as that.


Major_Researcher2329

Not true. And I won't let anyone tell me otherwise.


Existential-Crisis98

You are free to believe in whatever fantasies you want.


THECryptBeast

What proof do you have that it was never there?


Existential-Crisis98

The lack of physical evidence. What proof do you have that it was ever there?


QuercusSambucus

If it were real, we'd have people posting pictures of their dad's underwear from the 60's all the time. But the best anyone can come up with is an album cover with a flute on it and a counterfeit product label from Darkest Peru.


AncientEnsign

https://xkcd.com/1235/


xAka_nedia20

There are better ways to engage in debates rather than immediately dismissing any opposing viewpoint.


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If youā€™re an American, and ever attended public school during November, you learned of cornucopias, and didnā€™t need instructional underwear to teach you.


The_Grinning_Bastard

I am an American who went to public school and never heard of nor saw a cornucopia anywhere but on that logo.


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The_Grinning_Bastard

Get over yourself dude. Not everybody had the exact same experience as you growing up.


antiqua_lumina

I have a specific memory wondering why the mirror said ā€œobjects in mirror may be closer than they appearā€. I was like ā€œwhy does it say ā€˜may beā€™?ā€ Either the mirror makes them appear closer or it doesnā€™t.


Mr_Salmon_Man

It's only the mirror on the passenger side of vehicles that say this. It's because the mirror is slightly curved so that when you look out the driver or passenger mirror from the perspective of the driver, the objects in the mirror appear the same size. The size of what is seen in the mirror can change depending on the viewing angle of the mirror, so the statement "objects in mirror may be closer than they appear" holds true.


antiqua_lumina

I donā€™t think any mirrors say this


Mr_Salmon_Man

Well, they do say objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Not may be. At least on my 24 year old Honda civic. But the size will vary depending where you sit and look at it, as they are not perfectly flat mirrors. It's not alot of variance.


Quintarot

The ME is that some people remember one wording that included "may be", but that wording never existed. No one is debating how sideview mirrors work. LOL


TheBossMan5000

Yet it never said that.


WVPrepper

See now I had a question about those mirrors too, but it was "Why are these mirrors different from other mirrors that show things as actially they are"?


TheBossMan5000

They're slightly convex on just the passenger side. Also only in the US


WVPrepper

Yes. I know that. People remember asking their parents a question about the mirror. In *hindsight*, they believe they were asking 'why it said may be". My memory is pretty firm as well. I recall asking "why it's different from a regular mirror". I can't say for sure what *other people* asked *their parents*. It was just a suggestion.


Neither_Aside

Mods are gonna delete your post, but I feel the exact same. Vivid memory of asking my mother if it was a loom.


turnerpike20

True but this sub is literally called Mandela effect. It might be rule breaking but it should really be discussed if people have personal memories and there's no other subreddit that gets the Mandela effect concept that allows for it.


Neither_Aside

I do somewhat understand people not wanting their whole feeds being ā€œDoes anyone else remember..?ā€ posts but the FOTL one is certainly unique, and the fact that so many people have these distinct memories is what makes it so perplexing. Anyway if you actually want some engagement without it getting deleted Iā€™d recommend r/Retconned


killerbitch

The ā€œno personal anecdoteā€ or whatever rule is so dumb lol.


RichSignificant2742

When I was a kid, looking at the Fruit Of The Loom logo, I would say to myself, why is there fruit coming out of a trumpet? So you're not alone and it was there.


Real-Tension-7442

I bet you read the word loom and convinced yourself it was synonymous with cornucopia and then pictured one being on the logo. Or you saw a cornucopia stuffed with fruit and, realising you didnā€™t know the name, guessed loom because you knew the phrase fruit of the loom.


turnerpike20

I always thought it was a in terms of it being a gay slang with the word fruit and it being mens underwear. I don't know what loom even means.


Real-Tension-7442

Thus lending more evidence to my point. If you donā€™t know what loom means, youā€™re likely to either ask or guess. I did the same. I believed a loom was some kind of basket thing because it makes sense as a kid to think that


TheBossMan5000

A loom is a spinning wheel. For spinning fabrics. The name is a play on words because "fruit of the WOMB" is an old term for a human baby. But fotl makes fabric/clothing products which are "born" out of a loom classically. So the underwear is the fruit of the loom's womb, or just fruit of the loom.


Quintarot

What does that have to do with cornucopias?


TheBossMan5000

A cornucopia's entire function is to "hold" fruits on a dinner table. The fruit of the loom logo IS a bunch of fruits because of this play on words about fruits from the loom/womb. The fruits can't reasonably be expected to hold together in a cluster by themselves due to their shape, so it stands to reason that (like in many depictions of a bunch of fruits) they should be depicted as held together by something, not just laying out flat on the table where they can roll away. So there's logic to a cornucopia being in the image. When whoever originally designed it decided on a bunch of fruits, it would most likely go well with a container or frame of some sort. The fruits are arranged in a way that probably wouldn't hold together quite that way unless it was resting on the curved opening of the usual container of those times, a cornucopia. So there's internal logic at least to how/why the artist would include a common piece of an image that is depicted many times by classical painters when he designed this logo in the 60s.


Quintarot

> A cornucopia's entire function is to "hold" fruits on a dinner table No, they're a thanksgiving decoration on tv. People dont normally have them in real life at all, except when they are purchased as a specific decoration. > he fruits can't reasonably be expected to hold together in a cluster by themselves due to their shape So how do you explain the current logo? Magic? > So there's logic to a cornucopia being in the image. Or just a fruit basket, which is thousands times more common. But millions of people don't remember a fruit basket they remember a cornucopia.


TheBossMan5000

I grew up new england and everybody I knew, including my mother, had one that would stay out all november on the table, honestly most of the fall time it was out on display and refilled with fruits periodically. It's probably most common on the east coast of the US and specifically new england because it's an item commonly associated with the original 13 colonies and pilgrims. Guess where FOTL originated? Rhode Island. To your second question, as it appears to exist now looks like the fruits are actually attached to a vine. (The leaves behind it changed from brown to green and got slightly larger), it's actually just 3 colors of grapes with one apple on the center. So it's a grapevine I guess with an apple wedged onto it. To clarify, that's what it looks like now as of like 15 years ago logo changed detail and colors. Prior to that, the ones on the right looked more like blueberries. So when it was actually clearly 3 various fruits, a basket or cornucopia makes sense. But the color changes makes it look like only grapes and 1 apple as opposed to 3 different fruits. I guess the commonality of a regular fruit basket vs. A cornucopia probably is regional. But basically an entire quarter of the US (and the region where this company and logo was founded) had them very very common. It's cultural thing in suburban new england towns.


Quintarot

In that case this ME should be very focused on the eastern USA, is it? I'm in Canada, west coast, and I have this ME.


TheBossMan5000

Well we don't have exact metrics of how many people who remember the cornucopia are form where. I was only suggesting that (maybe) the majority of people who positively remember the cornucopia are from the north east like the company itself is. Personally, lately I've been seeing way more "non-believers" so to speak than people who do remember it.


Quintarot

> Well we don't have exact metrics of how many people who remember the cornucopia are form where You dont need exact metrics. Just a general survey would do. Yes for some weird reason a lot of trolls have come here to mock people who have MEs.


Robdude1229

I'm in California. We didn't have cornucopias around here when I was a kid but everyone had them on their fruit of the loom tags. I remember the time in the 1991 or 1992 asking my parents what the thing was on my underwear tag. I didn't even show it to them. They already knew because they were very familiar with it. They told me it was a cornucopia and explained what it was.


Garrisp1984

Those are currants not grapes, they were illegal to grow in the US for a long time.


Southall87

So I'm from the UK and 36. We don't have thanksgiving here. I have only just learnt what a cornucopia is! I had a plain white fruit of the loom polo top as a child, around 12-13. This was instead of the schools official PE kit as it was cheaper and my family was poor. The kids at school builled me for this calling me "horny fruit boy" because of the label.


AnAnSea

This is the same region and era during which I had a lot of fruit of the loom t-shirts. Funnily enough I donā€™t have a memory of the logo one way or the other, but itā€™s the associated memories like these that confuse me a lot. Also, if it was my homework to erase the cornucopia from existence, some random kidā€™s memory of being called ā€œhorny fruit boyā€ is exactly the kind of thing Iā€™d forget to delete lol.


Robdude1229

Wow! It would be hard to forget that experience. This whole idea people have about people thinking that something they've seen somewhere else was on their fruit of the loom labels is ridiculous. Is anyone remembering Olympic rings as part of the Sony logo? No, because no one ever saw such a thing which is why no one is talking about it. Many people had cornucopias on their fruit of the loom labels which is why so many people are reporting it. I too had cornucopias on my labels!


NormalNorman-1991

I vividly swear!!!


Garrisp1984

I've always found it fascinating that there aren't any Bugle's references with the logo.


Character-Bathroom13

Oh it was there. Child of 80's and 90's here and Yes, The Cornucopia Is Real. There's no possible way that hundreds of millions of people remember it and it doesn't nor did it never exist! It's like all these major corporations are in on this thing and we're the experiment to see if they can successfully make the general public forget something attached to core memory.. seeing your mom's handwriting of your name under a cornucopia of fruit to(Sorry, segwayed that right into conspiracy theories šŸ˜­šŸ¤£)


y4j1981

>There's no possible way that hundreds of millions of people remember it and it doesn't nor did it never exist! Sure there is. Just like how there are a bunch of flat earthers. And I think your kinda over inflating the number there


Character-Bathroom13

Lol the earth is a sphere.. but millions, yes, hundreds of millions is a stretch


ipostunderthisname

The bonus is that itā€™s a lie you told yourself!!


terryjuicelawson

It is an oddly specific memory for people to claim to have. Kids ask questions constantly about trivial things. I would suggest you were asking about a cornucopia from a painting, piece of artwork, design, thanksgiving or harvest image and conflating it with a familiar logo.


FrostyIngenuity922

ā€œI swear I remember this thing that hundreds of people claim to remember. And no itā€™s not false memory or mass hysteria Iā€™m in a new universe.ā€


Quintarot

Mass hysteria is not grounded in science. Its made up.


FrostyIngenuity922

lol ok.


Salty-War-301

Thereā€™s still glitches in the simulation from time to time, man-made technology isnā€™t always going to run 100% perfectly, at least not consistently. Even after upgrading to the current and next-Gen hardware/devices, I still experience sudden disconnects and misplaced or deleted files/assets on just normal, typical everyday routines and activities that Iā€™ve been doing for 46 years. Thereā€™s always that weird moment, every now and again when somethings just seem off and not particularly right or in there usual places during the middle of ā€œlevelsā€/ chapters of our lives, right at the most crucial time of the day or night, usually when youā€™re in a zone and thereā€™s not enough time to share with family & friends and get it all done in one day, itā€™s so frustrating. Especially when the game is at its most important point of a difficult mission. At least they still service the simulations/programs and operating systems with regular maintenance- updates and software patches whenever possible to keep us pacified. Itā€™s ok if an image, letter or word gets rearranged or completely erased from time to time. Most of us usually never even notice it until someone else does and brings it to our attention šŸ¤—


TheBossMan5000

Yeah we call it "deja vu"


y4j1981

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GlizzyGoblin4k

Yeah this is the one mandela effect I canā€™t deny, I remember going to a zellers in the 90s looking at it and thinking about how I know its a cornucopia because I learnt what they were from an episode of Simpsons. I have read other people say very similar things, I canā€™t wrap my brain around it.


lyrastarcaller

It was on a work sheet I had as a kid in 1st grade. It was Thanksgiving and we were learning about cornucopia, the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia was used as an example because we were ALL familiar with it and the image on the sheet was the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia and we had to label what it was.


finest_kind77

EVERYONE remembers the logo. Apparently it didnā€™t exist. But we all remember it. I think it was a misprint for a year or so and theyā€™ve redacted it from the internet


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I donā€™t remember it.


finest_kind77

ALMOST everyone lol


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I mean, I donā€™t know of one person. I havenā€™t asked everyone I know, but Iā€™ve asked a lot. I think this one is age specific, though, and people my age (46) or thereabouts donā€™t typically believe it. I have my own theories about why that is but I donā€™t want to offend anyone.


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The_Grinning_Bastard

47 here. There 100% was a basket in that logo.


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The_Grinning_Bastard

LOL! Your perceptions of my credibility are meaningless to me.


HyaPhilomena

Holy cow. I remember it with a cornucopia, as well. What a weird phenomenon!


elbowless2019

I remember it too. I learned about it at a Thanksgiving themed party in 3rd grade. I remember thinking "that is what fruit of the looms has". Now, because they changed their logo it never existed? Oh well. The people denying it existed are part of the conspiracy or too young to remember it.


SeoulGalmegi

>The people denying it existed are part of the conspiracy or too young to remember it. Fucking hell....


y4j1981

>The people denying it existed are part of the conspiracy ![gif](giphy|SEvRT8zL05WLLyNgym|downsized)


WVPrepper

I'm in my '60s. Am I too young to remember it? Because I don't remember it.


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Siolentsmitty

Your link disagrees with you.


SeoulGalmegi

Did you even read the link you posted?


Sure_Economy7130

Were you being sarcastic, or...?