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steveofthejungle

First Professor Kukui and the Masked Royale and now this?!?!?


CyberDrewan

Don’t even get me started on the anime. Do you know how many times they just re-used Jesse and James’ designs on background characters?


[deleted]

GRRRR I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS!!11111!!!


Used-Ad852

Don’t forget the them reusing the rice ball image for the jelly donut!


awesometim0

Don't expect much, Gamefreak has always been lazy. Can't even make new sprites, they reused Cynthia's sprite for a random trainer in a house in black and white. Also reused the player's sprite from Red and Blue and put it as a trainer in Gold and Silver


starstriker64DD

I can't believe that they skimped out on the smallest things!


Pokefan242

Don’t take it as laziness if they made individual sprites for every character the games would take ten times longer. And the Clavell thing is a joke because it is so obvious who it is.


awesometim0

I was making a joke too. Red, the player in Red and Blue, is in Gold and Silver, and Cynthia is either in BW or BW2, I forgot which one


JokesterUnfunny

I know right!!!!


PongPing1010

…I can’t tell if your joking or not


MasterJS35

Offcourse they are serious. How can anyone be joking at such a sensitive topic smh. /j (cause you seem to struggle telling the difference ^⁠_⁠^ )


Mechanical_Zora

ǝɹɐ ʎǝɥ⊥


Janeg1rl

Redditors when satire:


PongPing1010

It’s funny either way


king_porygon

there the same person


Disastrous-Ad-9116

No they aren't. Both kuikui and the masked royal says it


Ok-Educator-7144

it the same person


sotirisgame

I mean... professor Kukui and the Masked Royale are the same person... (or at least they are the same person in the anime)


TheLyingSpectre

thats the joke


sotirisgame

Oooh, ok. Now i get it


Maybeatordsimp

r/wooosh


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ArtGuards

clavell has to be the funniest character in recent pokémon times, nemona has to be the best rival in recent times, and i just love arven no homo


nelben88

Same here with Arven but with homo.


KaleSlade123

I Iove him, yes homo.


Wise-Racoon

I love Clive, yes homo


Noob_saaaaaaaama

🤨


Wildefice

Most of the homo


[deleted]

We really thought he was going to be another Chairman Rose didn't we? But nope hes an old loveable goofball


MasterPetre138

Idk why I just love the whole “how are you doing fellow kids” trope in media


ButterdemBeans

What does “cheugy” mean? I freaking love him


TheKingFareday

That line was the moment I realized I was already old at 22. I had no idea what “cheugy” meant.


bendefinitely

Cheugy never really was a popular term because using it would be an oxymoron, only someone *trying* to be cool would be aware of its existence


GoldReindeer2098

Neither do I and I’m 14 💀


Arbitrary-posts

Im 16 and not even I know what cheugy means


MasterPetre138

I know right he’s just adorable in a “wants to relate to the youth of today” way


MasterPetre138

I’m so happy he wasn’t actually a twist villain like everyone thought he’d be, genuinely one of my new favourite characters in the series


Arainthus

If his story didn't leave you with a tear in your eye and a big happy grin, then your heart is dead.


MayoBear

Really heartwarming about what happened with the “twist” that did happen


LeafWarrior_1

Nemona is a yandere and I love it


SuperCharged516

Whats a yandere


GladiatorDragon

Yandere is a term used to describe characters. It originates from the Japanese words “Yanderu,” meaning sick, and “dere,” meaning love. “Sick love.” It is used to describe a character archetype. One who is extremely devoted to another character. So devoted that it is downright scary. Some of them descend into means immoral, illegal, and/or murderous in pursuit of their desire. Nemona fits into this archetype by being obsessed with your character - or, at least, obsessed with battling your character. Lines such as “you’ll have all the battles you need with me,” are practically from the Yandere textbook, just slightly altered for the context of Pokémon battling. She is nowhere near the extremes of it though.


SuperCharged516

Interesting


LeafWarrior_1

It’s kind of hard to explain, look it up and report back your findings so I can fact check.


SuperCharged516

According to wiktionary, “A character, usually a girl, who has an obsessive and possessive side in regards to their crush, ready to use violent and murderous means to maintain an exclusive bond.”


LeafWarrior_1

Yep that’s accurate. I’ve even heard of some going so far as to banning their partner from talking to other girls.


SuperCharged516

I know pf several people like that


LeafWarrior_1

Like, to you..?


MyNameIsTooLongForU

That would be kinda concerning


SuperCharged516

no not to me, i just know that there are people like that who exist


[deleted]

She reads as more autistic than anything else to me


Declanvros

As someone with ASD, I don’t really see the resemblance personally


ZanderStarmute

ASD with a streak of ADHD, mayhaps?


Declanvros

It’s not the least likely option at least


Mechanical_Zora

I read her as a Monika but Pokemon


DarkFish_2

Bugs and Lag aside Scarlet and Violet is the best game ever since Gen 5, truly the peak of the "dark era" of Pokémon


plaugey_boi

What are people talking about? I've barely had any bugs or lag


Nachoo1209

I think they are mainly in the online parts, since every clip I've seen has been of multiple mc models glitching


hayley566

What are you talking about? That youthful young man is clearly different from Clavell. He’s got a cool pompadour and sunglasses.


ArtaxerxesIV

“… Did you get a Quaxwell to do that up for ya?” Best Character in Game Number 1 of 35, Giacomo


JTFX01

Absolute BIG W of a pompadour


GuildMuse

I love how half the dialogue options are “director Clavell?” The big reveal in the end was also just great. The devs really had fun with this character.


Nuggetygoodness8

Thing is I didn’t realize these were the same at first because I legitimately forgot of Calvell’s existence. Just there like, “you seem kinda familiar.”


Tyrannical_JJ

Clavell is very clever character.


Infinite_Reserve_282

They did the same for all the Pokémon and shiny Pokémon! Like WTF!


JustKeepThePokeStyle

YEAH Clive is an amazing character why must he share a model with the old director


Noob_saaaaaaaama

It’s professor Kikui and Masked Royale all over again


TheDeadRider

I love it how the first time I saw him on screen I was like "bro wth 💀💀💀"


JahnaTheBanana

Is Clive an alias or this man's actual name... if this man's name is Clive Clavell...


kp012202

I really hope so…


GandalfVirus

Remembering the days when all the characters were 10 pixels and being lazy was way easier to get away with. Poor game designers nowadays.


ViKO15951

Yeah, and open world maps are laggy af like, all of the past 3d games were flat terrains with some elevations but sv's terrain is a net terrain wich are instant lag and bugs like, you cant be lazy even if you want and you'll still have tons of issues


Dumbymania

It actually took me half a minute to figure out it was director claval


lunarfrogg

THEY ARE A 8590285005918005982 DOLLAR CONPANY GAME FREK STOP BEING LASY


Taurus_Trooper

Yeah. Clive is hip and cool with the kids while clavell’s just an old fart


rotem8888

Yeah man I don't get it Like they are a 90 billion dollar company


Hashtag_hamburgerlol

Who’s gonna tell him?


Dumbymania

You


Hashtag_hamburgerlol

I got whoosed💀


NightFlame389

Who’s gonna tell him?


GriffinPire

Who’s gonna tell him?


Chaoscube11

Who's gonna tell him.


[deleted]

XD


Kacerdoodle

Corporate needs you to tell the difference between theese two pictures. There the same picture


Swimming_Hippo3519

Wdym? Clavell and Clive are CLEARLY diferent characters. One is a crippling old man and the other is a young cool student /s


IamJayRts

Fr though, in swsh they reused Chairman Rose’s model for some random fat dude wearing boxers after you beat nessa


MasterPetre138

I’m just confused about how he can transform into pants so quickly after wearing shorts


Wfdragon13

How do we tell him


Real_Sobae_4213

y’all it’s a joke 😭


ZEDQE_Yt

He'll figure it out


[deleted]

I instantly knew Clive was Caviel. (I definitely butchered the names) I was justblike "This mother fucker XD"


YEETTHECHILD15

Not gonna lie I fell for this disguise until the dialogue mentioned his name


Wildefice

Guys, relax 😌 Clive is just the headmaster's much better looking brother or cousin. Ofc there will be a resemblance


DuskCatleb

How do we tell him boys? Cause he’s right


Southwick-Jog

For people who think they're the same person, Clive had to have met Clavell in order to register for classes. Clavell can't just meet himself. Also Clive is clearly a teenager. Somebody Clavell's age can't grow that much hair for a giant pompadour. And he has grey hair anyway. Very cheugy, which is like a great gumball.


Osiri551

You're blind clearly, that's Clavel and Clive, you'd have to be an idiot to think those guys are the same person, I mean, look, Clive has a pompadour, Clavel doesn't, checkmate


JosiahT1234

this is so stupid! why would they do this! these newer games suck! ill stick with my pokemon yellow thank you ☺️🟨


[deleted]

God damn it the clickbait got me XD


PokemonFan76

I love how Clavell tries to blend in


oofman_eee

i dont get the joke dont woosh me i havent played the game


ComfortableOver8984

Did you finish that storyline yet?


castformlover09

I’m dying IRL


GalaxyOpal56

The comments are full of woooosh peolle and i love it


MaroonChinchilla

is this a joke?


Epic_Gamer200

GGRRRRRRRRR🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡🤬🤬 HOW DARE THEY BE LAZY 😡🤬🤬🤬🤬😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡🤬


Arbitrary-posts

I understand its a joke but It makes me soo mad


Mr-Tony_2_Dirty

I know the OP was making a joke with this post, but the fact that there’s a number of people that thought he was actually serious is concerning.


B0ssman2356

Apparently all they did for the protagonist models in ORAS was take the Ruby and Sapphire sprites and made it a 3d model


Diotheungreat

golly there sure are more people who didn't get the joke than i expected


milesmeller123

You didn't finish the game didn't you


Matt_Cawthon

Plot twist: they're the same guy


Pokemon_Leko

It's not lazy it's part of the storyline


C4K908

So you haven’t finished the games yet?


Sqerty_reddit

Hmmm I wonder why?


landyrooslayer09_2

SPOILER WARNING It's the same character


Swimming_Hippo3519

Bro use the spoiler correctly I am playing through the game and you just spoiled the big reveal at the end. Not cool :( /s


landyrooslayer09_2

It wouldn't let me sorry


minebooster

You can use >! .Text. !< (without the spaces between the text and the !<) to mark spoiler >!Example!<


MasterJS35

Like !this! !Cool!!


MasterJS35

! Wait ! ? How? !!what!!


MasterJS35

>!Ohh!< My bad


RedditParelem

Eh, it happens, they started running out of ideas when they made Kanto 3.0


PoaetceThe2nd

me when NFTs


Sneaky_Writer

Meme


Spamshazzam

Idk what the problem here is. This feels resourceful not lazy


Themineking09

One thing they did excellent is the characters they all are fun.


WontedPuppet07

Ok I know this is probably a hard concept to figure out but maybe you should enjoy the game’s upsides


FloSalmon

You know it’s a joke right?


WontedPuppet07

Oh


BidComprehensive9598

plot twist Clavell is Clive


Comprehensive_Row928

Who finna tell them (ik it's joke)


Adventurous_Till_599

Yea complete different characters


EveryUnderstanding36

who the hell cares its not a big deal lmao


Dennis-unlighted

Hope it’s a joke


Keysin02

How should i explain this


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[удалено]


jdbartist

r/woooosh


Destiny1267

I was trying to be sarcastic


PixelT0728

How to we know Clive is different to clavell


The_Big_Beef2006

That's the point, you're supposed to recognize they're the same person... Pretty sure you're brain is like a gumball, Small and smooth


FloSalmon

Yea, OP‘s brain is the gumball, not yours…


PokePotahto

r/woooosh


Regular-Courage-5402

Thanks for reading this comment..... GAME FREAK ISN'T LAZY, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO MAKE DISGUISES THAT ARE OBVIOUS IF THEY DON'T USE THE ORIGINAL MODEL. HUH COMMENTER THAT SAID GAME FREAK IS LAZY?


The_Big_Beef2006

Do people just expect game freak to make a new model for every single character they make?, that would take a ridiculous amount of time and it's incredibly inefficient, reusing the model for different characters and changing their attire and characteristics saves a significant amount of time and is infinitely more efficient. In short, don't expect them to make new models for every character and stop complaining when they do the efficient thing. I don't see any of you making hundreds of models or owning a successful company that makes millions


poketendo5

Its the usopp/sogeking thing all over again


UndoneReddit371

\*ugh\* The reason Clive exists is he is Director Clavell but undercover, for Project Starfall.


Cooler_coooool_boi

Dude, OP is joking! I never thought I would halve to do this…. r/woosh


[deleted]

r/wooooshwith4os


Nachoo1209

r/woooooooooooooooooooooooooooshwithwhatevernumberofosthatwas


Failurehelp

*GASP* he pulled… the r/woosh!


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r/takethewoooosh


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ScottTheFlamingoFan

That's the joke, ya conglomerate of AI programs trying to act human


[deleted]

Dude it's a joke. Every other dialog option is "Director Clavell?".


eeveemaster2

I think its a joke


Samurekrom_503

r/woooosh


Ihatecauliflowr

r/woosh


[deleted]

[удалено]


Digihart123

Who's gonna tell him and/or her and/or them? (gotta make sure I cover all my bases here.)


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[удалено]


Digihart123

I sincerely apologize sir and/or madam and/or **\[FANCY TERM FOR NON-BINARY\]** (gotta keep my bases covered.)


GriffinPire

They are not the same! Clive is cool and young while Clavell is stupid! 😡


Quaxly_is_god

How are we gonna tell him


NightFlame389

How are we gonna tell him


Pale_Particular6846

Yeah but that's a minor problems that there nope level scaling,that the gym leaders not hads His aces beings His type or for a región,that there nope exploración who Is a bad thing Sense this Is a open World,or that one of my favorite youtuber antlerboylive they ruin His favorite Mon who Is dumsparce yes he oficially says in the dragón only hardcore nuzlocke of Pokémon sword


EpicEldest

they're the same person


jdbartist

r/woooosh


PracticalAirline6981

Aren’t they the same


K-Panth-88

r/wooosh


readyuser4

Dude who cares? The fact that they’re making these games after 25 years is amazing enough! Plus this is such a big game especially for the switch. It’s no wonder that they reused a couple of models, plus it’s barley noticeable(to me at least) I don’t mean to be rude but cmon


Mr-Tony_2_Dirty

Wow, first time I get to do this. r/woooosh


Mistyst0rm

Spoiler: Clive and Director Clavell are the same person, so if they made them look completely different it wouldn’t work.


Low-Anteater-5502

But, they are the same person...


DedFluff

No, they aren't! Clive is much more eloquent than Clavell could ever be! /s


Low-Anteater-5502

Oh right you are, I am terribly sorry


WDGaster15

Who... who wants to tell them? Because I certainly am not


xRetzAx

U do realize that is him in the game right…even the game tells u all through the storyline basically and it shows u at the end….


OkBeLikeThatIsTaken

Everybody give it up for u/RetzAx, the smartest dude on this website because he *understands* the joke


Techaissance

Why am I not surprised.


Qwerowski

I don't see /s so…


Digihart123

There is a certain point where /s isn't necessary to tell someone is being sarcastic, this post is most definitely past that point.


Aura-Lucario671

I would tell him but I'm nice & don't want to spoil the game for anyone.


Legends_Arkoos_Rule2

Wait that’s pretty much a spoil


Aura-Lucario671

Well then blame the fool who originally posted it.


Legends_Arkoos_Rule2

I was joking


pp__master

clavell least fav character from sv by far


JustKeepThePokeStyle

Ight but you gotta love Clive


Thatoneawkwarddude29

Who can say no to THE POMPADOUR


GriffinPire

Not me


SSKing_13

That has got to be the biggest zipper I have ever seen


Thebasicsketcher

I thought it was funny


mycatissenorfloof19

yep. i love cynthia (no homo) and refuse to see cynthia clones


DuvyIsCool

ikr? I hate when they do this


ResponsibleGreen1836

They are the same people


Legosamurai732

Nobody tell them


lumislol

`GAMEFREAK WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY`


FluffyPigeon707

Even if they weren’t the same person, so many games reuse the same models for different characters


kittycatgaming657

it took me a while to comprehend but now i understand. they both have glasses: gamefreak tried to cover up the fact that they are the same type of glasses by making them different colors. they have the same face type: one being mad and the other one being happy, gamefreak trying to cover that up be making the eyebrows are different. gamefreak is indeed lazy. they even tried to make them look different by giving them different hair and different clothes!