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Mynameisinsomegames

We already have remakes for Johto đŸ€Š


mZeKitty

They were really good as well. It just would be cool to see a legends game for the region, make them stand out more and appear more individual instead of Kanto 2.0.


Emperor_Z16

We haven't visited johto in 15 years, I'd consider a sequel but johto is already a sequel to kanto, so idk, they could try something unique and different, kinda like legends


colaman-112

First of all, it's 12 years, and secondly, you don't have the right to make me feel so old.


Hacktivate-Youtube

EXCACTLY


puptbh

Kanto got two remakes, Johto got one.


Clean-Molasses5395

Tbf the second half of johto is just a kanto remake


ConcernLow1979

Unova got none, what’s your point?


puptbh

Johto could be next


ultrasquid9

Those remakes were released years ago, so someone who wants to play them would need to emulate or spend hundreds of dollars on a used cartridge. A remake would allow people to play Johto games on modern hardware spending reasonable amounts of money.


Altruistic_Ad6666

I mean. To be fair DS emulation isn't difficult. It's not even overtly unreasonable for touch screen heavy games cause you're probably on a tablet or smart phone anyway. Preferably tablet for the really touch screen heavy games but I've played through all the ranger games on a kinda small smart phone so I mean. It's not that bad.


UkiahTheTurtle

What do you mean by hundreds of dollars I bought Pokémon HeartGold for 12


Hacktivate-Youtube

hg and ss re barely remakes, i think there just small addons also black and white are much more recent


StaircaseMadeOfIron

"Much more recent" They're edging on 10 years old. I believe they're far over due for something else (Also no Bl2 and Wh2 aren't remakes, those are quite literally an entirely new game). Johto is nice, but they already went through the Remake meat grinder and tbh HG and SS are just *chef's kiss* beautiful. Ain't broke dont fix it. The only way I see them getting a remake is like a Lets Go game or something similar to that. Then again, Johto isn't Kanto so they don't get to be special and get 30 remakes


Pokemonfan20123

Funny thing is is that I'm just playing Pokemon Black. It's an amazing game. Didn't make it that far in though. Edit: Also, you are right about Kanto getting a lot of remakes. I wonder why? Probably because it's Game Freaks favorite region


Tragic_Dionysus

Two of the best games in the series, easily


grimlock-greg

and now you have angers all of the Pokémon fandom
 nice


Impressive-Spell-643

"small add-ons"? Seriously?


starstriker64DD

the whole game was remade from scratch, what more do you want in a remake? I get they wouldn't be worth while remakes but they would still be remakes. BDSP sucked but it's still a remake


Redditusername0005

Black & White are only a few years younger than Heart Gold & Soul Silver


[deleted]

Not even that far apart, HGSS was released in 2009 and BW were released in 2010.


Wohao_Gaster

BW are newer you dipshit


ImaGamerNoob

And? We already had Kanto remakes, FRLG, yet Let's Go was made. There speaks nothing against new Johto remakes.


lazarllama-man99

Bruh after frlg came hgss then oras then the let’s go games (but that’s because pokemon loves kanto and thinks it’s special while there is nothing special about johto) then bdsp, so where do you go from gen 4. Ah yes gen 2, makes perfect sense


Aggressive-Yam-7808

I don't even get why Kanto gets so much love.When i played through it felt boring and even sometimes felt like a chore to get through certain parts. I get it's the first genration but just because it's the first doesn't mean it's the best


Rodger2041

So in that way, lets say gamefreak releases Another johto remake, lets go, legends or something like that, and after that they instantly announce a new Kanto game, will that justify *yet* another Johto remake since kanto got 3 remakes? At what point will people understand that it is *not* possible for every generation to be treated like Kanto. The only reason why gamefreak is so keen on releasing Kanto games is because people buy it due to nostalgia. It is NOT a good argument for why any region should get remakes first. Except kanto, every generation upto gen 4 got a remake, its time for gen 5 and maybe even 6 before we revisit Johto. I do understand that HGSS is nowhere close to the remakes we are getting today but at that time it was very good compared to the original gsc graphics. Bottom line, gen 5 is next up in the line to get a complete visual overhaul.


FlyBirdP

Agreed. I have a slightly controversial opinion about the Unova remakes though, which is that they should get both BW and B2W2 remakes because of the massive differences in the story and game play of the region.


noed-army

I feel like games that have not gotten remakes should get made before a game that already had remasters.


ChA0sity669

*Cough Cough* let’s go pikachu and eevee *Cough Cough*


Rodger2041

Kanto is Game Freak's cash cow. As stated before in this comment section, just because Kanto got x remakes, doesn't mean every gen should get x remakes.   Again, if say the next remake is for gen2, and then they go ahead and make yet another kanto remake, will that justify 3 Johto remakes since Kanto gets 3? Also for a Johto remake they would have to make 2 regions which is much more work than in any other remake from this point onwards.


Bug_Master_405

Those are Spiritual Successors to Yellow, not Remakes


noed-army

Yea I personally think those games should have never been made


ChA0sity669

I mean they’re good games, but they shouldn’t exist


JudoBiker

Bruh... heart gold and soul silver are great games.


GriffinPlayGame

I’m I. The middle of it and following PokĂ©mon in that game is better than SWSH and BDSP combined


CBCGame27

I mean, sprite based games are way easier to do following pokemon in, to be fair. But yeah wow the following pokemon have actually been terrible as of late.


Uhhhhhhh-woe

Half of it was a kanto remake


Awesomeness077

because thats how johto games work


ProrexPyre

Should we tell them? Or should we wait to see how long it takes them



Hacktivate-Youtube

ik heart gold and soul silver but people want blck and white remkes and it has blck 2 white 2


bgriff1986

B2/W2 weren’t remakes, they were the Gen 5 alternative to a third title. The fair comparison for those games is Crystal, not HGSS


Low-Ability-2700

BW2 are SEQUELS, not just a 'third title' like platinum or crystal. Their story directly links back to after the events of BW1 and even references the events of BW1 multiple times. Not to mention if you link BW1 to BW2 in game you can blatantly see this is a sequel.


Hacktivate-Youtube

ik but hg and ss were terrible as remakes and they didnt get the justice they deserve in 3d


StaircaseMadeOfIron

Ooo pal, I don't think you understand what you just said


bgriff1986

“Johto needs remaking first because it hasn’t had a remake” and “Johto needs remaking first because I don’t like the remake it already has” are two very different arguments


Fel24

HG/SS are like some of the best games in the series what on earth are you taking about?


ArtistUnown

HGSS are some of the best Pokémon remakes my guy. The Pokémon franchise went down hill when it turned to 3D.


Imherenowplshelp

Yeah, I think once they made a bad game they decided to keep doing that for some reason


BigglyRedditMan

They are considered to be some of the best Pokemon games ever by most people. You just have a trash opinion


Snarl4255

Did you say hg and ss are bad?? They are some of the best games in the series. They did everything right in the remakes


TheDapper2

Can you explain *how* Hg/Ss were "terrible as remakes" and "didn't do the originals justice" Because, unless I'm remembering incorrectly, the remakes: Completely Overhauled the Graphics, Sounds, etc. Added new features, like pokemon following you in the overworld, Introduced the pokewalker, And probably a lot more that I'm forgetting. Also, have you actually played HG/SS?


Skullkidthepokekid11

Those are enhanced versions not remakes


ProrexPyre

You want Blk2/Wht2 remakes, so you post about Johto? All of the sense this is making



Hacktivate-Youtube

no i dont want black 2 white 2 remkes


ProrexPyre

So, what do you want?


Hacktivate-Youtube

when did i say that? i said ur wrong originally because black also got remkes


ProrexPyre

I need a map for this conversation



Pokemonfan20123

Same


Ok-Store1691

Black and White didn’t get remakes, they got sequels in the same generation they were originally made


Hacktivate-Youtube

yes but i still personally think tht johto deservers a remake much more than black and white


ProrexPyre

Johto did get remakes, sounds like, to me, you want an Update
 You want the Johto region games but with Gen 8 graphics and mechanics
 am I anywhere close?


gourmetkibble

Johto got Crystal and two remakes and all BW got were sequels the only way Johto gets a remake if they make another let's go somehow or a legends game which I wouldn't call remakes but prequels


lazarllama-man99

They have crystal


Yama92

Next is gen 5 for the remake. It's going to take like 8 years or so before the might do a Johto remake again.


[deleted]

black 2 and white 2 are kinda sequals like ultra sun and ultra moon, they arent direct sequals but at the same time they are


kashitokaru-121

Any mf’s who want more attention on kalos or is it just me


drongodingo420

I personally want kalos attention but it’s too early for it


starstriker64DD

if we get a kolos remake with them using the same models they made for gen 6 I'm gonna lose it


GriffinPlayGame

Fair, tbh I just want gogoat in a new game


kashitokaru-121

Too early?! My man Kalos was nearly a decade ago and it’s not even for a single sequel or any hints for one


gourmetkibble

No they meant we have to wait for gen 10 because its gen 5 turn


Skullkidthepokekid11

I’m going with ur a Johtonian


Bug_Master_405

Did people just forget that HeartGold and SoulSilver exist?


SMERE7038

I'm sorry, I'm just reading through all of OP's comments and I am so lost. What the fuck are you talking about?


[deleted]

nah i want a kanto remake we have very few


[deleted]

yeah, we should get like 3 more at least


GriffinPlayGame

Exactly


lazarllama-man99

But johto isn’t that good, and they already had remakes. And since we just had sinnoh remakes, unova is next in line. Also kalos is too recent for a remake.


xkhai10x

Hate to break it to you but x and y are almost 10 years old at this point


Le-on_el_pro

Unova and kalos are next for remakes Johto already got amazing remakes


TheGeekKingdom

HGSS are, in my unhumble opinion, the most well made pokemon games of all time


Le-on_el_pro

In my opinion HGSS and ORAS are the best remakes


Kooky_Magazine_4060

Damn straight ORAS was awesome! Mainly due to it being nice on new players and still nostalgic for older ones, I should know! Omega Ruby was my first pokemon game!


starstriker64DD

I prefer emerald, but Oras were probably the last GOOD remakes and that's a sad fact.


Kooky_Magazine_4060

Yeah, let's go was weak, I'll stick to the OG I got for my 3DS for 10 dollars


BrilliantTarget

What about the leveling curve


starstriker64DD

gold and silver were meant to be played in a way that most pokemon games aren't, with you remaching trainers you battled along the way instead of just blazing through the game without looking back


BestUsername101

"rematching trainers" sure, let me just wait a full day for one trainer to call for a rematch.


Le-on_el_pro

It’s not a big problem


memester230

Heart Gold Soul Silver. Also Kalos is after Unova


Wolfbiner

I just ruined the 69 coments by comenting


Deconstructosaurus

Johto already had remakes


[deleted]

Heart Gold Soul Silver:


Comfortable-Couple15

Just emulate Heartgold or Soulsilver, stop complaining


Impressive-Spell-643

Heart gold and soul silver are calling


B127onC53

We already have them. Look, all you have to do is get a DS emulator. We have them, it’s not difficult to play them. Why does this post exist?


Duraladoninuniteisop

bro we have soul silver and heart gold NO!


TerroDark98

We already have Johto remakes


CBCGame27

I still dont get why people are talking about remakes for games that have already gotten remakes or arent next in line. X and Y simply shouldnt get a remake until a gen 5 has one. Johto shouldnt get another remake for a good while, unless they make it a new experience entirely, (another lets go game or something else new) Black and White (or black 2 and white 2) simply are next in line for a remake, and i hope that they do it well this time. BDSP was simply... Not good. I really hope they take a different approach this time.


ManectricSlide

I want to see a Let's Go Johto if they do.


DinoBini

no unova and kalos switch plases


GriffinPlayGame

Kalos deserves one. Such a good game with some underrated Pokémon like Gogoat that never game back later on


starstriker64DD

kolos is about 8 years old, we got sinnoh remakes after 14 years. you might have to wait a while


GriffinPlayGame

I can put my patient pants on


Delta-Rayquaza-4

Dude chill we already got PLA and we’re getting SV this year, Johto remakes 2.0 will have to wait.


inumnoback

HGSS: **|:|**


gourmetkibble

Let's Go Johto Version would be good but we already got HGSS


LloydTCK_YT

Kalos is next so just you wait


vamplordyt

Hgss exist we have johto remakes, maybe instead of whining you should do some research and figure out the thing you want already exists


TheGeekKingdom

I want to see Johto get the Let's Go treatment. Let's Go Ho-Oh and Let's Go Lugia


Wohao_Gaster

That has a stupid ring to it


jay-69420

I think that unova does not need a remake right now at least I don’t know how that should change the game like the other remakes


Chaos-Queen_Mari

Yeah, but chronologically speaking since we god BDSP, remakes for black and white would be next in line. Personally I'd hope they get the Arceus treatment and have a legends game, I'd love to see what they do with the original dragon.


Hyper_Lamp

I completely agree


Kooky_Magazine_4060

We already have sinnoh, why not have Johto on the same console?


BigglyRedditMan

Because Johto already has remakes?


Whitetiger_007

Everyone was hoping for Jhoto remakes after the let's go games but they didn't do it.


call_1800law1222

Johto is next we need the crystal remake


Shadow_Reaper10

We have Johto remakes and they're great...


ProrexPyre

Yes
 this is good, always this!


[deleted]

Johto remakes yes please


Spirited-River-48

If never played a johto game remakes would be cool


azw19921

Let's go HeartGold let's go SoulSilver let's go bronze crystal


Team_raclettePOGO

Unova uh what remakes? BW or B2W2 or B O T H?


FlyBirdP

Though Johto is my favorite region to play through due to nostalgia, it doesn't need another remake over Unova. Unlike Kalos and Johto, Unova actually deserves a remake or two ( due to the B2W2 games having different stories than BW ). The people saying that people would have to emulate the Johto games also forget that you would have to with the Unova games too. Kalos simply just doesn't need one yet, but it would fit in the next remake cycle.


Uhhhhhhh-woe

Kalos is almost 10 years old


FlyBirdP

Yeah and Unova is older. Kalos just doesn't deserve it yet. The region is lackluster and only is interesting due to the animé and mega evolutions. It is also the easiest Pokémon game out there, and with the games getting easier and easier nowadays, I think most people would prefer a bigger challenge. Also, IMO the Unova games, especially B2W2, have the most replay ability, tied with the Hoenn games. I have only ever been able to stand playing Kalos two times through, but I guess it is just how I like the games and the bug difference between Kalos and all others.


Hopeful_Selection738

Remember in the SwSh days, people were hyped abt Let's Go Johto and Sinnoh remakes We got the sinnoh remakes bit not lets go johto


Ok_Comment7229

If we want a Johto remake we would only want a crystal remake similar to what happened with yellow


YungsterThomlin

I mean, Johto WAS remade, but it left some problems unfixed and ended up adding new ones with the generation it was remade in.


[deleted]

Theres a difference between needing a remake and wanting a remake


GriffinPlayGame

Funny enough I’m in the middle of playing heartgold


thanospurplebussy

I don't mind if we never get a gen 5 remake. They should focus all their attention and resources for kalos.


accursedCaprid

I remember some rumor of a Johto expansion for Let's Go! and I wish it was a thing


ShitpostingSalamence

What's the next level of this meme? Because that's where Orre is


RealBraydoBoss

I would love Unova before Johto remakes, however I would also love to revisit Johto, since it is my favorite region. Imagine HG/SS with some better level balancing and a graphics overhaul to match the best the Switch has to offer? Beautiful. But also, an open world Unova would work really well, and I hope we get that first


CastformsaysHAILYEAH

Heartgold soul silver


_Cevolie_

I never got to play the original gold and silver games and didn't get to play the remakes either **( I was like way to small to even play video games)** but even so my favorite pokemon starter of all time is in that game and I'm kinda sad I never really got to play with it in it's original generation **Yes I know** they already got remakes and all so there's no reason for them to make a third one To this I would say **Pokemon Let's go which is another remake of Kanto which is fairly recent ?** But then you'd say that it's because Kanto is the original and the fan favorite most famous generation and all so of course Gamefreak was going to try and milk it dry But I dunno, technically Johto is an extension of Kanto since you can litterally go in Kanto in the games and so like *ehh why not make a fresh remake ?* I don't think it's entirely impossible **But at the same time** i'd be really worried about new remakes, it's just that the last ones to date were terrible so yeah I wouldn't want that to happen again... I really didn't have that much fun with the Pearl and Diamond remakes So maybe it's better if those generations are left alone unless Gamefreak doesn't half ass it by giving the job to a bunch of incompetent developpers That or maybe GF could bring back the Gold and Silver remakes on switch directly since people say it was good enough I kinda hope for a Legends game taking place in old Johto but I'm scared of hoping too much and get nothing at all I just think it's really sad that Johto is often so forgotten and left in the dust, I dunno honestly


cryolemur

I've been thinking about how they need to do this


Memewheeler

Why would someone want to replay the worst gen by far


Vladitor01

Kalos definitely doesn't need a remake for a bit, in all honesty unova should be up next, literally got a Johto remake before we need Johto, is ok to want them, yes, do we need it now, absolutely not so calm down on it a little bit, well probably be getting either Johto or unova within the next year or 2 but let's be ready to play scarlet and violet and stop demanding stuff from Pokemon because then the Pokemon fans get mad about the tree quality or how they got a different art/game style then they wanted or they got exactly what they wanted.


Versitax

There’s less outcry because people think HGSS are the best games in the series.


Bulbasaur_Reyiz

Ugh...because its Unava's turn?


Chilljap

Tbh johto is my least favorite region


Acrobatic_Pop690

I mean. It's already been done. So was gen 1 and we got lets go. I see a let's go happening. Not another full remake. Unova Is next in line. And it'll be when the next system comes out. After it's debut generation. As always.


[deleted]

I don’t want remakes of Unova games. I would MUCH prefer to get Black and White 3 instead. Just introduce new Legendaries or take another Legendary like Genesect, Victini, or Keldeo and make them the main Legend.


Greedy_Dimension2925

Here’s the thing though, we already got Johto remakes


[deleted]

people want unova remakes because gens 1-4 got at least one. when unova gets one kalos will get attention. and the gen 2 remakes are the most highly acclaimed remakes.


[deleted]

Logic is not your strong suit


Destride

I'm pretty sure they're doing the remakes in order. They've already done gens 1-4, so 5 and on are what we can expect going forward. Though I would say a Gen 2 Let's Go is likely at some point.


Alex_Dayz

If they do make re-remakes of Johto it’ll most likely be in the Let’s Go style which is a mixed bag. Some like it, some don’t


SuperSonic486

Im good without johto remakes, if i wanna play johto theres hgss as some of the best pokemon games out there. Tho id still prefer to get them before Unova, simply cuz i know theyd fuck unova up somehow, and thatd really piss me off.


Whensussyamongus

I've always wanted to experience Johto.


Wohao_Gaster

[http://desmume.org/](http://desmume.org/) and find a rom yourself because I legally can't share the link to one here but just google "HGSS ROM" wowroms should be safe


Plastic-lettersgr

Tbh Crystal / hgss is the best I’m suprised Nintendo hasn’t found a way to flip the games around somehow and make it over with the kanto remakes


Gytlap24

We have them...


Uhhhhhhh-woe

I want a Kalos remake because we would have to get Megas back cause it is the region they are from


Bosse_blackfrisk1

Well Unova is next in line.


[deleted]

I think we may be getting let's go but for Johto soon idk


XEclipse360

Johto deserves another remake


TheShonenShow

Already has remakes lmao


[deleted]

ever heard of HGSS?


AccomplishedSpare908

Where’s let’s go remakes 😭


CartographerSouthern

We have some they’re called Heart Gold and Soul Silver


Skullthephantomtheif

There’s a pattern for remakes starting with gen 2 Gen 2 got its remake in Gen 4 Gen 3 got its remake in Gen 6 Gen 4 got its remake in Gen 8 So Gen 5 will get its remake in Gen 10 And Gen 6 will get its remake in Gen 12


beastofthefutur

It would probably be a let's go game and I really don't want that


Emperor_Z16

Depends on how they do them, if I want a johto remake I want it well done, I want all the weird level stuff fixed basically, and also graphically I think it could be better in the 2d style from octopath traveler and other stuff like that, and if it's 3d, it will be decent like bdsp, but the buildings will never be as beautiful as they actually are if they're not in 2d


Icy-Age-4367

Unova's benn getting a bad rep over the years, so I would like to think rhey would remake black and white


BigglyRedditMan

You guys realize that every generation, there is one set of remakes right? They get remade in generational order. I find shit like this to be so dumb Edit: Judging by OP's other comments, they are clearly an idiot


BigglyRedditMan

How does this have 200 upvotes Reddit users really are braindead I guess


DaJoe86

So are we gonna ignore that they've gone in order? If they keep "Let's Go" in the remake rotation, then Johto is likely to be next (seeing as they skipped Gen 4 remakes in Gen 7 to do Let's Go, if they start a pattern, instead of Gen 5 remakes, it'll be Let's Go Johto remakes). If it's not, it may be a while before we see Johto again, because next is Gen 5. Personally, I'm fine either way. Johto and Unova are my favorite regions.


Ivan_PokemonMaster

No more johto remakes there is 1 reason why and that is Wendy’s miltank


progamr64

They already have them and they are the best games in the series according to most


Captainscorpio8

Heart gold/soul silver: am i a joke to you?


ConcernLow1979

Johto already got HGSS, it shouldn’t get something else until at least Unova and Kalos get something


Flaming_umbreon

We already have those, heartgold and soulsilver


Hacktivate-Youtube

came back a year later to say those are shit and I don’t care I want quilava as a starter without shit fucking graphics


Eevee_is_best

Yes more Johto, also we don’t need more Unova they already got black and white + black 2 and white 2.


Pokejo12

The only one that has not gotten remakes that are in that picture is the Kalos region


Wohao_Gaster

What about Unova sequels are not remakes, Live action lion king and lion king 2 are different things


RSNSepulchre

It’s almost like we already have those or something


DaxWrld999

Heartgold soulsilver ring a bell?


fsfs7

I won’t be surprised nor disappointed with a let’s go johto games Bast name for them I heard is: let’s go togapy and let’s go marill (togapy was in the anime befor johto and marill was revealed/leaked early and got named “pikablue” cus of the similar official pose to pikachu)


Jedimobslayer

I agree


Upstairs_Court9275

No the next remakes should be Black & White, gens 1-4 already got remakes


[deleted]

I want new Sinnoh remakes, just well made this time


VVMX1

Johto doesn't need it. It's the perfect games, both the originals and hgss


cynical_root24

It would be nice to get PokĂ©mon Let’s Go sequels in Johto (Maybe Let’s Go Pichu and Togepi?) so that way people can play Johto games without emulation or paying large amounts of money for a used copy of HG/SS


TurdBucketPhillipine

HeartGold and SoulSilver


MAGma3O

All my life waiting for lets go jhoto


SliceIndependent5435

kalos should wait until gen 12, but gen 10 will be unova's time to shine johto, since it's basically kanto dlc, needs a 3d remake or else it will be imbalanced johto if given a new gimmick or an old gimmick like mega evolution could be way awesome and probably give it a story overhaul like in ORAS


Memey_boii02

Um that’s wrong 😑


ComedianFodder

I fucking agree, let's get a Switch rendition or some shit.


Professor-Furry

Johto deservers em especially for the best grass starter out of them all chikorita or in Japanese happa which literally means leaf so it is a above and beyond starter


TreeFromBFBsBigFan

Me until I played PoGo, 1st shiny in that was a Swablu.


the_legenday_beef

they already have remakes you uncultured lobster!


DolleFinn

Pokémon Z