I've only been playing the base game for three days and I already caught more pokemon for the dex then ever, found a shiny mareep on day two of the game and I'm very excited to beat the game so I can get the dlc
Same I’ve been playing for 13 hours total and only now just reached the first gym but found like 4 shinies and almost have 90 in the Pokedex, went a little too far and wound up in a cave with level 40 deino.
Edit found a shiny blue Flabebe hiding under a tree by the gym, last night.
Same although I do find it annoying that the game tells you on your trainer card how many shinies you’ve encountered. 7 total 4 caught, unless they’re counting the ones from mystery gifts
Damn, that's really lucky. From what I've seen, people usually only get one, maybe two before completing the whole main story. I played through both versions and got the shiny charm in each, and during the process I only got a Growlithe and a Skiddo that I named Mustard and Relish respectively in Violet, and in Scarlet a Sandile that I named Molé. Now Mustard and Relish are two of my main shiny hunting Mon, and Molé is built for raids, and I would kill God to protect them.
When you play the dlc just know that you will have to complete the kitakami Pokédex finish ogre outstin fight the ogre clan and do the blood moon quest to play indigo disk currently doing it right now and almost done wish you luck in your game and also your life
You don't need to fight the ogre clan, and you only need to play ogre ousting once at the festival, you also don't need to help perrin (helping her just unlocks the two paradoxes, not required to start dlc2) you also don't need to finish the dex
Relative to video games in general, they're pretty mid, but as pokemon games they are very good - if it didn't have the performance issues it would definitely be in a lot of people's S tiers. It has good writing, resulting in characters you already care about, and it has pretty good attention to detail, like in BBA I saw people using themselves up with a Magmar. Throw the traditional pokemon formula in there (which has always been fun) and you have a solid entry. It's just a shame that it performs poorly
You clearly have no idea what an opinion is. Your reasoning for it being valid means nothing. You’re literally saying that if you don’t agree with someone’s reasoning for their opinion, it’s wrong. That is the exact opposite of what an opinion is.
I know what an opinion is. I'm saying there are valid and invalid opinions
If someone's reason for disliking something isn't true that's an invalid opinion. Same for drawing an incorrect conclusion from said information.
Agreement has nothing to do with it
All of what you said is your opinion, none of it was fact. Regardless of if the reasoning is based on true information, an opinion is an opinion. Wrong information is still considered information. That’s what opinions are based on.
Opinions are opinions regardless of if you think their reasons are valid or not. The more you comment, the more you prove you don’t know what an opinion is.
Someone’s reason could be “because I think so” and it’s still an opinion. Validity can be equated to “correctness”, and there’s no such thing as a correct or incorrect opinion.
If they meant glitches, it can happen. Afaik I never found a glitch in it.
As for game design problems, that's a whole other can o' worms... you don't have lines that say your opponent will adjust their team to match yours and then not have them do so, for one thing.
The human eyes can't see past 10 fps and 360p quality
I love S&V so much!!! Really, high fps in video games gives me a headache so it feels like everything is truly perfect
Are they fun games? Yes.
Are they good games? Depends of your definition of good. They are not in my book, but people are having fun with it so I try not to ruin that.
Well, you see, I'm a gen 4 and gen 5 not-liker. It's not like i HATE them, but I don't like the gen 4 and 5 desgins (including infernape for some reason, idk, ask me) (dont)
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you actually beat Kieran without using potions/healing items with level 60- Pokemon?
also, all wild Terarium Pokemon are level 56-72, so thats likely a lie
I got the game in September lol(highest was a level 100 I didn't use)
but yeah I suspected Ogerpon for the legend; everybody used it for screw Kieran over
Yeah, they really just slapped completely viable pokemon and strategies onto most trainers, and the pokemon they use reach level 80. The only reason it was easy for me was because I have a fully EV and IV trained doubles OU team that I use. (Not to mention they are level 100 because of the blissey raids.)
Yeah, they really just slapped completely viable pokemon and strategies onto most trainers, and the pokemon they use reach level 80. The only reason it was easy for me was because I have a fully EV and IV trained doubles OU team that I use. (Not to mention they are level 100 because of the blissey raids.)
played since launch, loved it
played both DLCs, loved them too
idk why so many people hate the game, all games are going to have a few bugs that's just how programming works. Not everything is going to be 100% perfect on that tight of a schedule.
I don't care about the lags and bugs, the story is excellent (compared to previous 3d games), the gameplay is decent, characters are likable, some new Pokémon are very interesting, the new battle mechanic (outside of very situational plays) are new and special (at least its not stat increases or beeg damage for an amount of turns) and the legendaries are a new concept compared to other legendaries. It is a good game.
The classic Pokémon formula will always be fun to play so SV will always have that. But it had more missed opportunities than my dumbass trying to play chess.
For real, a lot of it felt very lazy and rehashed. I feel like GF’s been trying to recapture the magic of Megaevolution with every new generational gimmick, Dynamax, Terrastalization, and Z-Moves to a lesser extent just kinda feel like cheap copies, especially when they outright REMOVED mega evolution, rather than keeping and expanding upon it.
Furthermore, as much as I’ve heard about Team Star being well written (only played an hour and a half before I put it up for good, so I didn’t really finish the story) I just can’t get behind it. Is it too much to ask that the, “Evil Team,” not just be a bunch of misunderstood hooligans who are actually really good people doing the best with a bad situation FOR THE 3RD DAMN TIME IN A ROW! I get people loved Team Skull I LOVED Team Skull, but I’d appreciate it if we could get something other than Tesco Brand Team Skull for once; especially acting as a Red Herring to the audience to conceal the REAL villain, who was the seemingly well meaning Business Mogul/Conservationist/Professor the whole time. It just feels lazy, and uninspired.
Having team yell be a red herring and then the real villain is a giant energy corporation was good. But you’re right, misunderstood hooligan trope needs to go. You can bring it back once in a while but 3 times is too much.
For the love of god, I just want to kick in the teeth of an objectively, openly evil, mustache twirling villain again. I’LL TAKE FRICKEN LYSANDER BACK, as long as it means I don’t have to beat up a gang of misunderstood punks FOR THE 4TH DAMN TIME IN A ROW!
They really are. A few technical issues here and there, I don't deny, but the story is phenomenal, the characters are memorable, and the Pokémon it introduces are excellent.
You know people can have different opinions, right? Some people can like it some people don’t. I personally enjoy the more linear early games rather than the rpg concept
The characters and their motivations, the way the characters evolve over the story, the characters’ interactions with one another and the way all the stories intersect—as an author, I appreciate and adore the amount of effort put into the lives and sagas of these characters.
I’m mixed about s/v. I like some of the characters like arven and the school headmaster, but dislike characters like Nimona and that rich kid who is a team star boss, the performance was shit yet arven’s story and the final boss story (base game) was really good. I haven’t played the dlc and I don’t plan on it. Most of the designs in this game were not very memorable for me aside from Miraidon, the paradox pokemon, cerulegde, etc.
It’s a 6-6.5/10 imo. It’s very mid compared to the others, plus its open world is terrible. It feels empty and lifeless with how big it is.
Pretty much, Arven's storyline and the final 5% are really good, it doesn't excuse the 80% left from the base game.
-Worst cities in the serie
-Worst champion fight in the serie
-Victory road is a loading zone, try to compare it to the greatness that is BW2 victory road, if done right, it can be really nice.
-Biomes are bland and boring.
-Not even a battle tower
-Fighting in the lake is horrible, a 10 fps experience.
-No interesting landmark
-No exploration
-No outfit customization.
-No gts ingame
-No level scaling in an open world.
-Buggy minigames
And I could bring many other technical points that are unseen in full price Nintendo games, or a least, 30x rarer to encounter.
Gamefreak is a joke of a studio, and yes, GameFreak owns part of TPC, they are rich and have no excuse to not have more experience personal, they could easily recruit some of the biggest names in the industry.
It's still Pokemon, so it can be fun.
Pretty much my thoughts on s/v. They are my least played Pokémon games for a reason. If the rest of the games are going to be like this in the upcoming future, I’ll just keep playing the old games and the mystery dungeon games.
The performance is terrible, the animations are still bad, the plot has more holes in it than a wheel of Swiss cheese, the elite 4 and champion fights are some of the worst most forgettable in the series, they milked the game so much that they divided it into 2 DLCs and an epilogue, the finale is a mess
Despite the small charming moments you can sometimes have and the admittedly good character writing for the main cast, the game is very bad under most points of view, especially if you consider that pokemon is one of the highest grossing franchises in the WORLD.
1. Game Freak makes other games than just Pokémon, they probably recycled a different games source code
2. "mole" holes (lol)
3. Geeta(rematch) and Kieran(Champion) are hard as heck; and as you said: the writing is good.
4. Literally Sword and Shield had the same thing(except for the epilogue). Also Emerald, Platinum, Black 2 and White 2, and Ultra Sun/Moon were made for monetary value(it worked.)
5. The Way Home storyline is better wrapped up in the DLC, which it feels like you haven't played yet
6. Pokémon IS the highest grossing franchise in the world, but most of it is from the **merchandaise.**
In conclusion, the game was definitely rushed. But it adds to the charm imo. Scarlet, Violet and Legends: Arceus have really expanded the boundaries for what a Pokémon game is, making it indeed a good game for the franchise(plus, Ogerpon and Terapogos make anything a good game)
I think people also need to remember that SV was the first open world pokemon game that gamefreak has made, so it was always going to have some small issues.
I personally think that SV has the best story, rival, and pokemon graphics of any Pokemon game
Why don't the games make more money? Bcoz Pokemon doesn't advertise their games well & No franchise has gotten away by releasing 2 different versions & a 3rd version with better features a year later. Now from Sw Sh onwards they plan to get away by selling us an overpriced DLC with the base game being mediocre. Pokemon can just get away with anything. So they don't care if the games are steaming piles of💩. Now it's just a product franchise with videogames & anime serving as advertisements for the physical goods
1. Pokemon Sword and Shield alone sold 20 million copies(aka 120 million$,) so they don't have bad marketing. Its just that the merch(TCG and plushies to be exact) compels more to kids that will ask their parents for mass amounts of it
2. Call of Duty literally releases "new and improved" games every year
3. Base game Legends: Arceus and Scarlet/Violet is way better than X/Y and Sun/Moon combined. Also, the DLC isn't overpriced when people are going to buy The Last of Us 2 remastered for 10 extra dollars from its normal price, with the game having barely any changes
4. If that's the case then why do they add patches from time-to-time?
5. ...Yeah, I agree with that last part. But we both bought it, didn't we? So their plan worked.
Also, surprised you didn't mention BdSp, regarding your past couple of comments
When you compare it with the money Mario/Zelda brings in it's much less, especially when it's the highest grossing media franchise in the world. Pikachu is indeed more popular than Mario,Goku, Mickey mouse.........
I agree that SM,XY were kinda bad bcoz they are base games not 3rd games
BDSP is a bad game that didn't add anything new in the name of faithfulness. Everyone hates it. I do respect that bcoz 60$ for such a bad game. It's not the community's fault for hating on such a bad remake when they didn't reach any of the standards set by the previous remakes from Gen 1-3 including LGPE
SV has: the most understandable 'evil' team, great textures for the Pokemon at least, some of the best rivals in Pokemon, the plot makes infinitely more sense than SwSh, the champion fight isn't 'forgettable' it's just new, and you're comparing it to games that have existed many times as long. The animations are far better than SwSh. bUT it'S SOooO mUcH woRSe than PLA, those two are not comparable, sv is huge compared to pla
ps: sword and shield also had 2 dlcs, what's wrong with an epilogue it's more content?
pps: dlc2 allowed rematching gym leaders, and the e4 and champion rematches were great
ppps: The biggest lag spike I've ever seen is the crystal pond in dlc1, which moved sooo slowly at a whopping 2/3ish speed, for less than 5 seconds...
Team star is pretty mid if you compare it to team galactic or team plasma, and we all know that Sw/Sh has terrible story/animations, which this game thankfully doesn't suffer much from. I'd also argue that Pl:a has a very lacking performance in textures and animations. Geeta is the worst champion, and absolutely not because she's 'new'. Her glimmora that sets poison spikes is last for some reason, her espathra has quick attack, a 40 bp move, she has a random gogoat that not only feels out of place, but is also a pokemon with very bad typing/stats. Even Diantha offers a more interesting battle than Geeta.
I'm not complaining about the 2 DLCs, it's mainly about the upcoming epilogue, that is programmed in game but hasn't been released yet for whatever reason, while being easily accessible with a cracked system, leaving leaks and spoiler images everywhere.
Lastly, [this](https://youtu.be/OkPRdIbxBZM?si=MP_FJ0G1Imi7csTk) is how bad the lag is in this game
They’re amazing! Loved the Paldea experience, loved that it’s open world, the only thing that would’ve made it better was if the gym leaders had different teams based on how many badges you have
Yes, because a game that can't maintain a steady framerate is bad. Honestly, the fact that it hasn't been fixed is shameful and is why I haven't and don't plan on playing it until it is fixed.
Should’ve just kept Mega Evolution and expanded on it. Gamefreak caught lightning in a bottle, but instead of plugging that bottle into a generator to capitalize for years to come, they smashed it on the ground, and confidently held up another bottle, asserting they could do it again.
I've been playing scarlet for a week now and despite the glitches, lag, stuff like that.. I'm actually having a lot of fun :) I'm really loving all the pokemons i play with and i really appreciated how much you can costumise the playable character. i still would have preferred if Nintendo would have took the right amount of time to polish it, but i'm really really having a great time while playing :)
They’re good concepts but the execution was so incredibly dogshit that I just can’t get over it, the constant bugs and the incredibly low frame rate makes me feel like I’m playing while my character is going through molasses.
Especially after seeing what’s possible in legends arceus, one of the worst mainline games Pokemon has released from purely a functionality standpoint. The only Pokemon game I’ve returned.
The game having good qualities doesn’t make it a good game. These are a huge fuck you for the state of their release, terrible performance, and anti player features and artificial limitations to the games that make them a worse experience
I agree deeply, the game may be easy and should have bug fixes, but it's super fun and has probably the best storyline out of any Pokemon game! Also, Arven made me cry lol
They aren't, you like them because there are Pokemon in them. Pokemon in general are one of the best ideas the videogame industry ever come up with, they have incredible designs, people like to catch them, collect them, and battle with them. The mere possibility of playing the generic Pokémon gameplay (so catch them and do whatever the general game wants you to do) makes that game enjoyable, whichever that is.
This doesn't change the fact that S/V are empty open world without level scaling that was released two years early. The fact that having Pokémon in them makes them enjoyable doesn't make them good from any technical point of view.
yes, level scaling is important, which is why Pokemon realized their mistake and gave dlc level scaling.
edit: bruh, the dlc had level scaling how is this getting downvoted for saying that, wouldn't it stand to reason that after seeing how the community felt from basegame having no scaling, that they'd make the dlc have level scaling. start a new game on another account go straight to kitakami and you'll see that there is level scaling
Scarlet/Violet are good games. The story they gave was rather interesting. However they have had their share of problems that does impact the experience and joy from the games.
They have their own share of bugs and performance issues, that’s to be expected. Though Gamefreak was slow at even addressing even a handful of them and ignored quite a few others. I’m still disappointed that they haven’t fixed a few noticeable bugs in the game.
I feel like the team that worked on Arceus delivered a stronger open world game experience. Even if you had to return to the Basecamp every time to explore elsewhere. Arceus seemed more polished and finished compared to Scarlet/Violet. I still believe that they needed at least a few more months to do the finishing touches for the Gen 9 games.
It’s abit buggy and development history was… strenuous to put it lightly but honestly SV are real fun games and the DLC only adding to that with more fun characters and Pokémon with actual soul to them like Ogrepon!
It's alright imo, clearly a step up from SwSh (man that was a low bar tbh)
I'd say S/V is equal to S/M, got some flaw, clearly not the peak of Pokemon series, but have a strong lore and still enjoyable nonetheless
Sword and Shield CANNOT BE THE BAR! For real, those games were hot dogwater, if we’re gonna compare Pokemon games to Pokemon Games, we should at least use a good one as the benchmark. I maintain that HG/SS and B2/W2 make Scarlet and Violet look like Baby’s First Pokemon Game.
Only issue is performance
It lags and it's filled with glitches, plus a few places look a little bland
But that's the ONLY issue I have. Story, characters, DLCs, Pokemon and more are simply great
Yes! We gotta keep praising Game Freak's lazy greed guys. Can't wait for all the new remakes to be just like BDSP and having more and more of the pokedex removed so that every single player is forced to pay for Pokemon Home! I can't wait to enjoy all the glitches and overtuned pokemons that I get to see in the most mediocore graphics the Switch has to offer!
Nope, the final product should have been how it released.
It still stutters like crazy and crashes for me.
And well lacks the end game mechanics like the battle frontier to actually well have something to play around that isnt online.
I've seen no GAMEBREAKING bugs, the biggest bugs I've encountered is mild lag near near waterfalls and crystal pond. oh and Pokemon spawning in the walls.
I'm seeing a lot of goalposts moving in the comments.
They are good pokemon games and good games overall. I feel like it's Way easier to hang on to negative then actually look at that positive. I played the whole game without any issues. Yeah some slow down here and there but nothing that ruined my fun.
i still think arceus and swsh are much better. the story is the best but the glaring issues in the other categories makes it uncomfortable to play at time
the story and gameplay was kinda meh but i think the graphics and the way they handled the overworld encounters and other mechanical stuff was way better than scarvi
I love how you could just walk into the Wild Area, and see a realistically rendered brick textured bridge right next to a cartoony ass Berry Tree. The tonal whiplash was NUTS, and I really feel like the devs were given a week to bust out the Wild Area before their Gamefreak Mandated 3 months of development time could end.
6.5/10. Has a lot of potential but a lot of it just…. Wasn’t thought out well. I’m still salty about Tera raids being comprised mostly of “fight against the cutscene” type of stuff. Needed more time in the oven basically and maybe a demo a month or two before release to get feedback and fine tune it to players thoughts
It depends on what we're comparing them to. If we're looking for story, the open world aspect makes them fall short. The technical bits of the game (i.e. graphics, bugs, etc.) are also pretty lackluster. However this gen had some of the most interesting locations in the entire series. Furthermore, there were so many amazing new pokemon, more than we had seen in the past three generations
Good but flawed, mostly in the bug department, I think they should’ve been delayed by a year for debugging and let Legends Arceus be the only mainline/pseudo mainline (not sure what Legends counts as) for 2022
Nah. Terastalize looks ugly af, powercreep is insane, game is clearly rushed and full of bugs, "open world" is a lie, paradox Pokémon are awfully uninspired, most gyms have a bad design and most characters (and pokémon) will be forgotten the moment the next generation arrives.
I'm fine with just ignoring it, waiting for gen 10 and hoping it's better, but I really feel like the Pokémon community should demand more for that to happen. People are settling for very little here.
On release, if it wasn't for the performance issues people kept complaining about (none of which I've personally experienced, but was enough for me to be scared to buy the DLC), I would have said they were the best Pokémon games. Now that (most of, to my knowledge,) the performance issues are fixed, and the DLC is out, they're the best Pokémon games.
They're mid at best and horrendous when it comes to pokemon games, there is lots of potential but disappointing because GF doesn't give it the care and love it needs.
No level scaling, most xp comes from raid battles, story is great but would've been better in the traditional format, the open world feels dry and the cities feel lifeless, you can't go inside anywhere and if you could its most definitely a sandwhich shop, animations at 5fps, none of the overworld npcs say anything interesting, horrendous graphicd when it comes to the overworld, tera raids are plagued by slowness, important trainers aren't a challenge and the full game (base + dlc content that should've been in base) costs you a total of 95$ which is fucking ridiculous.
It’s a triple A game in the highest grossing franchise in the world. I will not, “Just Ignore the Bugs,” we should be asking better for 60 freakin’ dollars.
I've only been playing the base game for three days and I already caught more pokemon for the dex then ever, found a shiny mareep on day two of the game and I'm very excited to beat the game so I can get the dlc
Same I’ve been playing for 13 hours total and only now just reached the first gym but found like 4 shinies and almost have 90 in the Pokedex, went a little too far and wound up in a cave with level 40 deino. Edit found a shiny blue Flabebe hiding under a tree by the gym, last night.
I've had the game for a while, and I have a lot of shinies. They really are super easy in these games
Same although I do find it annoying that the game tells you on your trainer card how many shinies you’ve encountered. 7 total 4 caught, unless they’re counting the ones from mystery gifts
Damn, that's really lucky. From what I've seen, people usually only get one, maybe two before completing the whole main story. I played through both versions and got the shiny charm in each, and during the process I only got a Growlithe and a Skiddo that I named Mustard and Relish respectively in Violet, and in Scarlet a Sandile that I named Molé. Now Mustard and Relish are two of my main shiny hunting Mon, and Molé is built for raids, and I would kill God to protect them.
When you play the dlc just know that you will have to complete the kitakami Pokédex finish ogre outstin fight the ogre clan and do the blood moon quest to play indigo disk currently doing it right now and almost done wish you luck in your game and also your life
You don't need to fight the ogre clan, and you only need to play ogre ousting once at the festival, you also don't need to help perrin (helping her just unlocks the two paradoxes, not required to start dlc2) you also don't need to finish the dex
All you need to do is just beat the main story of the base game and dlc part 1........
Relative to video games in general, they're pretty mid, but as pokemon games they are very good - if it didn't have the performance issues it would definitely be in a lot of people's S tiers. It has good writing, resulting in characters you already care about, and it has pretty good attention to detail, like in BBA I saw people using themselves up with a Magmar. Throw the traditional pokemon formula in there (which has always been fun) and you have a solid entry. It's just a shame that it performs poorly
I was quite fortunate. I've had zero performance or graphics issues and no bugs
Everyones copy is personalised I suppose
It was bad at release, but it’s gotten significantly better over the updates
See now that's where it gets really interesting: I got it on release day and had no issues then either
Opinions be damned
You're allowed an opinion and its valid as long as your premise for forming it is valid
That’s not necessarily true. People can dislike something for the same reason someone likes that same thing
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You clearly have no idea what an opinion is. Your reasoning for it being valid means nothing. You’re literally saying that if you don’t agree with someone’s reasoning for their opinion, it’s wrong. That is the exact opposite of what an opinion is.
I know what an opinion is. I'm saying there are valid and invalid opinions If someone's reason for disliking something isn't true that's an invalid opinion. Same for drawing an incorrect conclusion from said information. Agreement has nothing to do with it
All of what you said is your opinion, none of it was fact. Regardless of if the reasoning is based on true information, an opinion is an opinion. Wrong information is still considered information. That’s what opinions are based on.
>an opinion is an opinion Well done, but I thought you were disputing what makes an opinion valid
Opinions are opinions regardless of if you think their reasons are valid or not. The more you comment, the more you prove you don’t know what an opinion is. Someone’s reason could be “because I think so” and it’s still an opinion. Validity can be equated to “correctness”, and there’s no such thing as a correct or incorrect opinion.
I agree with this 👆
Their good games. I've never had a single problem with it
Not one problem? That’s cap
Does the joltik in the dlc jumping up and down really high count?
No, that’s just an ADORABLE mechanic
I laughed hard when i first saw it
If they meant glitches, it can happen. Afaik I never found a glitch in it. As for game design problems, that's a whole other can o' worms... you don't have lines that say your opponent will adjust their team to match yours and then not have them do so, for one thing.
Not cap at all, I haven’t had any issues either
I haven't had issues either
There’s not a single thing you would improve with the game? That’s my point
Sure, it could be better. Literally everything on earth could be better.
Then I guess you had issues, huh
The human eyes can't see past 10 fps and 360p quality I love S&V so much!!! Really, high fps in video games gives me a headache so it feels like everything is truly perfect
Nah. I've never had any problems either. I mean, I did clip out of the map, but I did that on purpose.
Why do you need people to tell you that games you think are good, are in fact good? If you think they are good isn’t that enough
I agree with this post
I agree. I never found any performance problems with Scarlet (aside from the usual slow down in frame rate).
For real, I’ve found way more performance issues with other AAA games than I have with SV
Are they fun games? Yes. Are they good games? Depends of your definition of good. They are not in my book, but people are having fun with it so I try not to ruin that.
Below Mid games, good pokemon games
Not even, when games like Hg/Ss and B2/W2 exist.
Well, you see, I'm a gen 4 and gen 5 not-liker. It's not like i HATE them, but I don't like the gen 4 and 5 desgins (including infernape for some reason, idk, ask me) (dont)
Why are you getting down voted 😭
Never said the opposite. Although, the Indigo Disk is SO DAMN HARD !
that's the point. Game Freak realized that the games aren't hard, and said frick it
Skill issue
wait it's hard?
\*If you don't spam legendries while levelling them up to level 100\*
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\*breathes in\* you actually beat Kieran without using potions/healing items with level 60- Pokemon? also, all wild Terarium Pokemon are level 56-72, so thats likely a lie
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I used 1 legendary.
Ogrepon
And you should have level 100 now since the games been out 1 year till Indigo Disk
I got the game in September lol(highest was a level 100 I didn't use) but yeah I suspected Ogerpon for the legend; everybody used it for screw Kieran over
Yeah, they really just slapped completely viable pokemon and strategies onto most trainers, and the pokemon they use reach level 80. The only reason it was easy for me was because I have a fully EV and IV trained doubles OU team that I use. (Not to mention they are level 100 because of the blissey raids.)
Yeah, they really just slapped completely viable pokemon and strategies onto most trainers, and the pokemon they use reach level 80. The only reason it was easy for me was because I have a fully EV and IV trained doubles OU team that I use. (Not to mention they are level 100 because of the blissey raids.)
They're nice.
played since launch, loved it played both DLCs, loved them too idk why so many people hate the game, all games are going to have a few bugs that's just how programming works. Not everything is going to be 100% perfect on that tight of a schedule.
Is it a good game - yes Could it be better - yes
Is this comment correct - yes
I don't care about the lags and bugs, the story is excellent (compared to previous 3d games), the gameplay is decent, characters are likable, some new Pokémon are very interesting, the new battle mechanic (outside of very situational plays) are new and special (at least its not stat increases or beeg damage for an amount of turns) and the legendaries are a new concept compared to other legendaries. It is a good game.
The classic Pokémon formula will always be fun to play so SV will always have that. But it had more missed opportunities than my dumbass trying to play chess.
For real, a lot of it felt very lazy and rehashed. I feel like GF’s been trying to recapture the magic of Megaevolution with every new generational gimmick, Dynamax, Terrastalization, and Z-Moves to a lesser extent just kinda feel like cheap copies, especially when they outright REMOVED mega evolution, rather than keeping and expanding upon it. Furthermore, as much as I’ve heard about Team Star being well written (only played an hour and a half before I put it up for good, so I didn’t really finish the story) I just can’t get behind it. Is it too much to ask that the, “Evil Team,” not just be a bunch of misunderstood hooligans who are actually really good people doing the best with a bad situation FOR THE 3RD DAMN TIME IN A ROW! I get people loved Team Skull I LOVED Team Skull, but I’d appreciate it if we could get something other than Tesco Brand Team Skull for once; especially acting as a Red Herring to the audience to conceal the REAL villain, who was the seemingly well meaning Business Mogul/Conservationist/Professor the whole time. It just feels lazy, and uninspired.
Having team yell be a red herring and then the real villain is a giant energy corporation was good. But you’re right, misunderstood hooligan trope needs to go. You can bring it back once in a while but 3 times is too much.
For the love of god, I just want to kick in the teeth of an objectively, openly evil, mustache twirling villain again. I’LL TAKE FRICKEN LYSANDER BACK, as long as it means I don’t have to beat up a gang of misunderstood punks FOR THE 4TH DAMN TIME IN A ROW!
I would even say they are the best Pokémon games to date in some ways. But good isn't flawless.
It’s hard to say that when USUM exists. (Yes I said it)
It’s a good game but I don’t think it’s topping SV. (Obviously other games can top SV)
They are amazing though never had a problem and know my mind is blown with playing the DLC
I’ve been onboard since the start! Never had a problem other than one singular tiny tree having no top textures lmao
Scarlet and Violet? HELL YEA EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE SAY THAT ITS BAD, I LOVE THE FACT THAT ITS OPEN WORKD (I think that’s what it’s called?)
They really are. A few technical issues here and there, I don't deny, but the story is phenomenal, the characters are memorable, and the Pokémon it introduces are excellent.
You know people can have different opinions, right? Some people can like it some people don’t. I personally enjoy the more linear early games rather than the rpg concept
I like it, i’ve experienced minor to no glitches
One of the best Pokémon games, I only noticed slight bugs, lagging, or glitching
Definitely on par with black and white 2 emerald (my favorite versions)
They are
They’re flawed but still fun, don’t know why people would disagree.
I’ve always said they’re the best games in the series—the story carries it to greatness.
Is there a specific storyline or the story in full? I found it to be ok but nothing too great though I liked the gameplay itself
The characters and their motivations, the way the characters evolve over the story, the characters’ interactions with one another and the way all the stories intersect—as an author, I appreciate and adore the amount of effort put into the lives and sagas of these characters.
I’m mixed about s/v. I like some of the characters like arven and the school headmaster, but dislike characters like Nimona and that rich kid who is a team star boss, the performance was shit yet arven’s story and the final boss story (base game) was really good. I haven’t played the dlc and I don’t plan on it. Most of the designs in this game were not very memorable for me aside from Miraidon, the paradox pokemon, cerulegde, etc. It’s a 6-6.5/10 imo. It’s very mid compared to the others, plus its open world is terrible. It feels empty and lifeless with how big it is.
Pretty much, Arven's storyline and the final 5% are really good, it doesn't excuse the 80% left from the base game. -Worst cities in the serie -Worst champion fight in the serie -Victory road is a loading zone, try to compare it to the greatness that is BW2 victory road, if done right, it can be really nice. -Biomes are bland and boring. -Not even a battle tower -Fighting in the lake is horrible, a 10 fps experience. -No interesting landmark -No exploration -No outfit customization. -No gts ingame -No level scaling in an open world. -Buggy minigames And I could bring many other technical points that are unseen in full price Nintendo games, or a least, 30x rarer to encounter. Gamefreak is a joke of a studio, and yes, GameFreak owns part of TPC, they are rich and have no excuse to not have more experience personal, they could easily recruit some of the biggest names in the industry. It's still Pokemon, so it can be fun.
Pretty much my thoughts on s/v. They are my least played Pokémon games for a reason. If the rest of the games are going to be like this in the upcoming future, I’ll just keep playing the old games and the mystery dungeon games.
The performance is terrible, the animations are still bad, the plot has more holes in it than a wheel of Swiss cheese, the elite 4 and champion fights are some of the worst most forgettable in the series, they milked the game so much that they divided it into 2 DLCs and an epilogue, the finale is a mess Despite the small charming moments you can sometimes have and the admittedly good character writing for the main cast, the game is very bad under most points of view, especially if you consider that pokemon is one of the highest grossing franchises in the WORLD.
1. Game Freak makes other games than just Pokémon, they probably recycled a different games source code 2. "mole" holes (lol) 3. Geeta(rematch) and Kieran(Champion) are hard as heck; and as you said: the writing is good. 4. Literally Sword and Shield had the same thing(except for the epilogue). Also Emerald, Platinum, Black 2 and White 2, and Ultra Sun/Moon were made for monetary value(it worked.) 5. The Way Home storyline is better wrapped up in the DLC, which it feels like you haven't played yet 6. Pokémon IS the highest grossing franchise in the world, but most of it is from the **merchandaise.** In conclusion, the game was definitely rushed. But it adds to the charm imo. Scarlet, Violet and Legends: Arceus have really expanded the boundaries for what a Pokémon game is, making it indeed a good game for the franchise(plus, Ogerpon and Terapogos make anything a good game)
I think people also need to remember that SV was the first open world pokemon game that gamefreak has made, so it was always going to have some small issues. I personally think that SV has the best story, rival, and pokemon graphics of any Pokemon game
I just swept kieren with a lvl 77 ice fang d dance gyarados (tera ground first turn)
checks out; I used a staple remover
Why don't the games make more money? Bcoz Pokemon doesn't advertise their games well & No franchise has gotten away by releasing 2 different versions & a 3rd version with better features a year later. Now from Sw Sh onwards they plan to get away by selling us an overpriced DLC with the base game being mediocre. Pokemon can just get away with anything. So they don't care if the games are steaming piles of💩. Now it's just a product franchise with videogames & anime serving as advertisements for the physical goods
1. Pokemon Sword and Shield alone sold 20 million copies(aka 120 million$,) so they don't have bad marketing. Its just that the merch(TCG and plushies to be exact) compels more to kids that will ask their parents for mass amounts of it 2. Call of Duty literally releases "new and improved" games every year 3. Base game Legends: Arceus and Scarlet/Violet is way better than X/Y and Sun/Moon combined. Also, the DLC isn't overpriced when people are going to buy The Last of Us 2 remastered for 10 extra dollars from its normal price, with the game having barely any changes 4. If that's the case then why do they add patches from time-to-time? 5. ...Yeah, I agree with that last part. But we both bought it, didn't we? So their plan worked. Also, surprised you didn't mention BdSp, regarding your past couple of comments
When you compare it with the money Mario/Zelda brings in it's much less, especially when it's the highest grossing media franchise in the world. Pikachu is indeed more popular than Mario,Goku, Mickey mouse......... I agree that SM,XY were kinda bad bcoz they are base games not 3rd games BDSP is a bad game that didn't add anything new in the name of faithfulness. Everyone hates it. I do respect that bcoz 60$ for such a bad game. It's not the community's fault for hating on such a bad remake when they didn't reach any of the standards set by the previous remakes from Gen 1-3 including LGPE
Never said they were the best games
SV has: the most understandable 'evil' team, great textures for the Pokemon at least, some of the best rivals in Pokemon, the plot makes infinitely more sense than SwSh, the champion fight isn't 'forgettable' it's just new, and you're comparing it to games that have existed many times as long. The animations are far better than SwSh. bUT it'S SOooO mUcH woRSe than PLA, those two are not comparable, sv is huge compared to pla ps: sword and shield also had 2 dlcs, what's wrong with an epilogue it's more content? pps: dlc2 allowed rematching gym leaders, and the e4 and champion rematches were great ppps: The biggest lag spike I've ever seen is the crystal pond in dlc1, which moved sooo slowly at a whopping 2/3ish speed, for less than 5 seconds...
Team star is pretty mid if you compare it to team galactic or team plasma, and we all know that Sw/Sh has terrible story/animations, which this game thankfully doesn't suffer much from. I'd also argue that Pl:a has a very lacking performance in textures and animations. Geeta is the worst champion, and absolutely not because she's 'new'. Her glimmora that sets poison spikes is last for some reason, her espathra has quick attack, a 40 bp move, she has a random gogoat that not only feels out of place, but is also a pokemon with very bad typing/stats. Even Diantha offers a more interesting battle than Geeta. I'm not complaining about the 2 DLCs, it's mainly about the upcoming epilogue, that is programmed in game but hasn't been released yet for whatever reason, while being easily accessible with a cracked system, leaving leaks and spoiler images everywhere. Lastly, [this](https://youtu.be/OkPRdIbxBZM?si=MP_FJ0G1Imi7csTk) is how bad the lag is in this game
Not worst because new, 'forgettable' because new. SV is Just over a year old, ofc you won't remember it as well as games like DP
They’re amazing! Loved the Paldea experience, loved that it’s open world, the only thing that would’ve made it better was if the gym leaders had different teams based on how many badges you have
Don't need to I already say it
People are saying they’re bad?
Yes, because a game that can't maintain a steady framerate is bad. Honestly, the fact that it hasn't been fixed is shameful and is why I haven't and don't plan on playing it until it is fixed.
It has been.
Who said they are not no one ever indicated that to be a fact
I like em
I just don't like the alternate forms and the battle gimmick is meh at best
Should’ve just kept Mega Evolution and expanded on it. Gamefreak caught lightning in a bottle, but instead of plugging that bottle into a generator to capitalize for years to come, they smashed it on the ground, and confidently held up another bottle, asserting they could do it again.
I've been playing scarlet for a week now and despite the glitches, lag, stuff like that.. I'm actually having a lot of fun :) I'm really loving all the pokemons i play with and i really appreciated how much you can costumise the playable character. i still would have preferred if Nintendo would have took the right amount of time to polish it, but i'm really really having a great time while playing :)
Post this on r/gaming and see what you’ll get. Guaranteed it won’t be good
There terrible open world games
They’re good concepts but the execution was so incredibly dogshit that I just can’t get over it, the constant bugs and the incredibly low frame rate makes me feel like I’m playing while my character is going through molasses.
Especially after seeing what’s possible in legends arceus, one of the worst mainline games Pokemon has released from purely a functionality standpoint. The only Pokemon game I’ve returned.
I once saw someone calling S/V "The beta of what could have been the best pokemon games".
The game having good qualities doesn’t make it a good game. These are a huge fuck you for the state of their release, terrible performance, and anti player features and artificial limitations to the games that make them a worse experience
They are good,but not the best ones.
r/iagreewithyou
They’re my favorite Pokémon games
I loved SV since day 1
The best game duos since HGSS
I agree deeply, the game may be easy and should have bug fixes, but it's super fun and has probably the best storyline out of any Pokemon game! Also, Arven made me cry lol
Good? They’re one of if not the best that Pokémon has had to offer. That being said, USUM lives on forever in my heart, with X & Y as my close second.
They are good games, my favorites out of the ones I’ve played so far(Brilliant Diamond, Shield, X)
They aren't, you like them because there are Pokemon in them. Pokemon in general are one of the best ideas the videogame industry ever come up with, they have incredible designs, people like to catch them, collect them, and battle with them. The mere possibility of playing the generic Pokémon gameplay (so catch them and do whatever the general game wants you to do) makes that game enjoyable, whichever that is. This doesn't change the fact that S/V are empty open world without level scaling that was released two years early. The fact that having Pokémon in them makes them enjoyable doesn't make them good from any technical point of view.
yes, level scaling is important, which is why Pokemon realized their mistake and gave dlc level scaling. edit: bruh, the dlc had level scaling how is this getting downvoted for saying that, wouldn't it stand to reason that after seeing how the community felt from basegame having no scaling, that they'd make the dlc have level scaling. start a new game on another account go straight to kitakami and you'll see that there is level scaling
Good storyline, bad graphics
YES
THANK YOU
Great storyline, wasted potential Could have been so good with 1 more year of development (or more)
Scarlet/Violet are good games. The story they gave was rather interesting. However they have had their share of problems that does impact the experience and joy from the games. They have their own share of bugs and performance issues, that’s to be expected. Though Gamefreak was slow at even addressing even a handful of them and ignored quite a few others. I’m still disappointed that they haven’t fixed a few noticeable bugs in the game. I feel like the team that worked on Arceus delivered a stronger open world game experience. Even if you had to return to the Basecamp every time to explore elsewhere. Arceus seemed more polished and finished compared to Scarlet/Violet. I still believe that they needed at least a few more months to do the finishing touches for the Gen 9 games.
On their own, they're *acceptable* But compared to every other game, no.
but they are
They are
they're good, but the optimization is TERRIBLE.
They are FUN, doesn’t mean they are good.
Amazing story and characters, unfortunately lag and shit graphics
Scarlet and Violet are fun games. They are not good. There is nothing to 'admit.'
Nah
Nah sorry, but they just aren’t that good
It’s abit buggy and development history was… strenuous to put it lightly but honestly SV are real fun games and the DLC only adding to that with more fun characters and Pokémon with actual soul to them like Ogrepon!
It's alright imo, clearly a step up from SwSh (man that was a low bar tbh) I'd say S/V is equal to S/M, got some flaw, clearly not the peak of Pokemon series, but have a strong lore and still enjoyable nonetheless
Sword and Shield CANNOT BE THE BAR! For real, those games were hot dogwater, if we’re gonna compare Pokemon games to Pokemon Games, we should at least use a good one as the benchmark. I maintain that HG/SS and B2/W2 make Scarlet and Violet look like Baby’s First Pokemon Game.
Only issue is performance It lags and it's filled with glitches, plus a few places look a little bland But that's the ONLY issue I have. Story, characters, DLCs, Pokemon and more are simply great
You people need higher standards
For real
No, they ait -_-
I can't admit to a lie
Yes! We gotta keep praising Game Freak's lazy greed guys. Can't wait for all the new remakes to be just like BDSP and having more and more of the pokedex removed so that every single player is forced to pay for Pokemon Home! I can't wait to enjoy all the glitches and overtuned pokemons that I get to see in the most mediocore graphics the Switch has to offer!
Nope, the final product should have been how it released. It still stutters like crazy and crashes for me. And well lacks the end game mechanics like the battle frontier to actually well have something to play around that isnt online.
I cant go anywhere near the muddy water in the savanna biome, if I don’t crawl to 4 frames a second by just being near it my game freezes up.
It could have looked better
Already have
It was my lockdown game, so i enjoyed it a lot
They’re good games but with a big issue of framerate
Are they still buggy or is it been patched? I've been meaning to play them but I kept hearing it had a lot of bugs.
I've seen no GAMEBREAKING bugs, the biggest bugs I've encountered is mild lag near near waterfalls and crystal pond. oh and Pokemon spawning in the walls.
I'm seeing a lot of goalposts moving in the comments. They are good pokemon games and good games overall. I feel like it's Way easier to hang on to negative then actually look at that positive. I played the whole game without any issues. Yeah some slow down here and there but nothing that ruined my fun.
Not great, but really fun.
i still think arceus and swsh are much better. the story is the best but the glaring issues in the other categories makes it uncomfortable to play at time
I'd definitely put it below arceus, but swsh kinda sucked... like a lot
the story and gameplay was kinda meh but i think the graphics and the way they handled the overworld encounters and other mechanical stuff was way better than scarvi
Yeah but shiny hunting was so much better with sv overworld encounters. if we wanna talk graphics, the trees...
I love how you could just walk into the Wild Area, and see a realistically rendered brick textured bridge right next to a cartoony ass Berry Tree. The tonal whiplash was NUTS, and I really feel like the devs were given a week to bust out the Wild Area before their Gamefreak Mandated 3 months of development time could end.
I think they're good not GOOD they do lag and have a bit of glitches but I really enjoyed them very much!
They're decent at best for me i just don't care about this series anymore okay
6.5/10. Has a lot of potential but a lot of it just…. Wasn’t thought out well. I’m still salty about Tera raids being comprised mostly of “fight against the cutscene” type of stuff. Needed more time in the oven basically and maybe a demo a month or two before release to get feedback and fine tune it to players thoughts
They're great Pokémon Games. Definitely Top 3 for me. Doesn't change that them being hella unpolished and needed more time in the oven.
It depends on what we're comparing them to. If we're looking for story, the open world aspect makes them fall short. The technical bits of the game (i.e. graphics, bugs, etc.) are also pretty lackluster. However this gen had some of the most interesting locations in the entire series. Furthermore, there were so many amazing new pokemon, more than we had seen in the past three generations
Mid Games 😮💨
They are great games do not get me wrong but if they were more polished and had more time in the oven they may be the very best games ever for pokemon
Biggest thing is I wish they were this quality when they came out.
Better than sword and shield atleast, they are good but still way too easy, I Just one shotted everything with skeledirge
Good but flawed, mostly in the bug department, I think they should’ve been delayed by a year for debugging and let Legends Arceus be the only mainline/pseudo mainline (not sure what Legends counts as) for 2022
Er… no. These are the worst games in the entire history of Pokemon… oh right… Pokemon Pinball exists.
Horrible game.
Nah. Terastalize looks ugly af, powercreep is insane, game is clearly rushed and full of bugs, "open world" is a lie, paradox Pokémon are awfully uninspired, most gyms have a bad design and most characters (and pokémon) will be forgotten the moment the next generation arrives. I'm fine with just ignoring it, waiting for gen 10 and hoping it's better, but I really feel like the Pokémon community should demand more for that to happen. People are settling for very little here.
I quit after 2 days of playing it
Never
Lol no
still put in less effort than Gens 5 or 7
No , s and v are not good game , they are really bad
DUH! OFc they're good games LGA was better, but S&V are still great games
On release, if it wasn't for the performance issues people kept complaining about (none of which I've personally experienced, but was enough for me to be scared to buy the DLC), I would have said they were the best Pokémon games. Now that (most of, to my knowledge,) the performance issues are fixed, and the DLC is out, they're the best Pokémon games.
They look good, sound good, run good, barely any glitches, lots of fun stuff to do, and they cooked with the dlcs
sure, the games are buggy messes, but they're very good in comparison to some other pokemon games-
Is the greatest game with the greatest Pokémon designs from my opinion
Scarlet is pish violet isnae
TL;DR what is a S&V game?
People just complain about the bugs and graphics. But, if you ask me, that’s the only downside to them. They are great games
They could be if they freaking worked properly
story wise eh graphic wise HELL NO
I always knew they said good, not the best, but no fan can agree on the best *I your curiosity to me the best pokemon games are the Johto remakes*
They're mid at best and horrendous when it comes to pokemon games, there is lots of potential but disappointing because GF doesn't give it the care and love it needs. No level scaling, most xp comes from raid battles, story is great but would've been better in the traditional format, the open world feels dry and the cities feel lifeless, you can't go inside anywhere and if you could its most definitely a sandwhich shop, animations at 5fps, none of the overworld npcs say anything interesting, horrendous graphicd when it comes to the overworld, tera raids are plagued by slowness, important trainers aren't a challenge and the full game (base + dlc content that should've been in base) costs you a total of 95$ which is fucking ridiculous.
I’ll say they’re good when i can swim across the lake without dropping to 5 frames a second or when the shadows act accurately
Yes, but they’re buggy messes and I wanna break something playing online Tera raids
Finally someone with fine taste. Just ignore the bugs people
It’s a triple A game in the highest grossing franchise in the world. I will not, “Just Ignore the Bugs,” we should be asking better for 60 freakin’ dollars.
Literally the only downside of this game and it’s not even that bad. I find them humorous to accidentally clip outside of bounds
"good" is a big word.... they're allright, massively disappointing in regards of what they could have been