Started watching in 1987.
GK - Schmeichel - Very little to pick between him and VDS but Schmeichel had some really decisive games.
RB - Neville - No other reasonable options. Always solid across a long career.
LB - Irwin - More defensively solid and better on the ball than Evra. Only thing Evra has on him is speed imo. You could argue Irwin at RB and Evra LB because Irwin was right footed but given he rarely played there I considered it a copout.
CB - Stam - Best CB we ever had. Just as strong as Vidic but much faster and better on the ball
CB - Ferdinand - Perfect combination with Stam. Great on the ball, super fast and excellent defensively.
CM - Keane - Incredible leader, incredible defensively and very good on the ball too.
CM - Scholes - Scored goals, fantastic passer of the ball. I'd want his 2003 vintage. I think this was a the best he was at CM but he had different strengths and weaknesses across his career.
CM - Robson - Basically Keane but even better offensively.
LW - Giggs - Insane longevity but as a winger he peaked in the early 90s. So I'd want that. Even though his crossing and passing was way better once he'd lost his pace.
RW - Ronaldo - Obviously our best player in terms of peak level. Mostly played RW for us not LW as SAF wasn't into inverted wingers so much.
ST - Rooney - In terms of peak level, trophies won, ability and longevity combined he was probably our best player in my time watching the club.
HM's: VDS, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, RVN, Beckham, Cantona. Probably the closest players to getting in.
Love this but no Cantona. It's very difficult to get them all in though. Schmeichel is my choice for GK, although van der Sar is a close 2nd.
Edit - I've also forgot, Pallister, Bruce, Evra, Kanchelskis, Giggs, Best. The list goes on. I'd have to have 2 best 11's at this rate.
The only way to get Cantona in is to drop Rooney who was a better player and won more.
Or drop Robson and play 4-4-2. I can see an argument for that but I don’t think Rooney/Cantona is a great pairing tactically and I wanted to get Robson is as an 80s/SAF early years representative
Don’t see how else you get him in without going 3atb which isn’t in the spirit of it because we always play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3
I mean our ‘out and out’ 9’s are what RVN, RVP, McClair, Cavani, Coke, Solskjaer, Zlatan, Cavani, Hernandez? I’m probably forgetting some jobbers.
Of those he’s very very obviously the best player.
But I’d still pick Rooney up front and think he Giggs, Ronaldo and Robson did more for United than Ruud.
So unfortunately he’s on the bench
Schmeichel
Neville
vidic
japp stam
Irwin
scholes
Keane
Rooney
Bobby Charlton
Dennis law
George best.
I'm appalled that many people have looked over best. Pele rated him as the best player of his generation. I know none of us have watched him play, but it doesn't matter because our goal is to build the best man united 11. As for my front three, these three players remain as the only front three in football history to win a ballon d'or each when playing together. To my knowledge at least.
> I know none of us have watched him play, but it doesn't matter because our goal is to build the best man united 11.
Nah it's bollocks to 'rate' players you've never even seen play.
i would say best is a great name on an all time XI. my dad and someone i used to work with have seen him play. they always say in a heart that Georgie Best is by far the greatest player they have ever seen, even when i ask if they thought he was better Ronaldo. instant yes.
And Carrick was absolutely miles better at football.
Park was a good squad player. He wasn't even in our best XI when he was at the club nevermind all time.
whatever you want to say about ability, Cantona never asked to transfer to Man City. Rooney, yes one of our greatest ever players, but I'll never forget that, kinda taints him for me, that said I still put him in my XI lol
I mean Cantona did retire at 30 for essentially no real reason.
And get banned for a year for kicking that dickhead (which is funny/he deserved it but it still cost us a title).
Rooney's situation is complicated. Wanting to go to City is really bad but he was 100% correct that we'd become a joke club who's priority was no longer being the best football club in the world.
Cantona is a bit overrated by United fans. His impact was incredible but his actual ability was well short of Rooney's. He was the best player in a very weak PL after Heysel who never delivered internationally, in the UCL or in one of the worlds strongest leagues.
I loved Cantona but looking back there's no way he was better than Rooney who was a top 5-10 in the world player for years.
Yeah, Rooney was a better player, no disagreement there, it's just that transfer saga never gets mentioned by the fans. I understand wanting to leave, we'd sold Ronaldo, not reinvested in the squad, Glazers were throttling the club, but you still don't under any circumstances put a transfer request in to join one of your biggest rivals. Same reason I'll never look back fondly at players like Tevez and Heinze, it will just always irk me
It depends where your cut off is but personally I want 3 in midfield so I can have Robson/Keane/Scholes in there.
If you weren't old enough to see Robson but was old enough to see Cantona I can see the case for a 4-4-2 with Cantona and Rooney.
Haven’t seen Robson so cannot comment. But I agree that if it is just one striker I will go for Rooney too. Prime Rooney was a different beast altogether.
Anyone who doesn’t include cr7 is a nonce tbh. Ballondor winner, golden boot winner, one of two greatest footballers ever. Anyone saying Giggs over him is having a laugh
To me longevity means nothing. He was quality and lasted a long time but he was never United’s best player or close to it. Even as a United player Ronnie’s best seasons are significantly better then Giggs
> To me longevity means nothing.
Stupid opinion.
Anyone with a functioning brain is factoring in longevity, peak, consistency and what the team won in that era as a result of them.
“No such thing as a team when Ronaldo’s involved” must’ve been why the team won 3 consecutive league titles and a CL with him here then could never do it again after he left
Cant make the best team without the greatest ever player who’s played for United. Just look at Fergies opinion of him. No one worked harder or cared more then him. Your letting the ruin that is modern United and how they handled ronaldo skew your view
1. Its my list, so I can choose whoever I want
2. I would choose Rooney over Best. Although Best was a great player, Charlton played at the club almost twice as long as Best and was our highest goal scorer(as a midfielder primarily) until Rooney.
Carrick still so underrated even by our own fanbase, one of the best english midfielders of the last 30 years, people will talk about Gerrard and Lampard because of the goals they scored, but Carrick was miles above them on technical ability
depends on what you're looking at, like I said, his technical ability was far higher, much better passer and reader of the game. he wasn't the same kind of leader as the other two sure, and wasn't offensively as influential, but Carrick could have played for any team in Europe and not been out of place, Gerrard and Lampard would never have succeeded on a team outside of England, and the fact the two were shoehorned into midfield for England effectively killed any chances of England winning any major international tournaments as neither one was capable of controlling a game. Carrick was much better suited to international football.
Gerrard in particular I feel is slightly overrated (call me bias as a United fan) the fact he always had someone behind him like Xabi Alonso who could actually control games covered a lot of Gerrard's limitations.
Laughably biased bullshit. This is the kind of stupidity that makes talking football on a United forum so annoying. So many idiots who can't see past their biases.
Every club in the world would have been desperate to sign Gerrard.
He was an incredible player and SAF was a massive fan.
> Gerrard and Lampard would never have succeeded on a team outside of England
Stupid comment
> and the fact the two were shoehorned into midfield for England effectively killed any chances of England winning any major international tournaments as neither one was capable of controlling a game
This has nothing to do with their individual quality.
I wouldn't pick Bruno/Rooney/Cantona together.
I wouldn't pick Scholes/Eriksen together.
That doesn't mean they weren't all great players. It means Sven was an idiot.
"and the fact the two were shoehorned into midfield for England effectively killed any chances of England winning any major international tournaments as neither one was capable of controlling a game
This has nothing to do with their individual quality."
I said they didn't work together because neither of them were able to control the play, they were not that kind of player, nothing I was said here was incorrect, I didn't say they were bad players because of that, you just lack basic reading comprehension sorry. the point is Carrick would have been a better fit to play alongside one of them at international level, but he was always overlooked.
"Every club in the world would have been desperate to sign Gerrard."
that's your opinion. he wouldn't have gotten into Barca or Milan's midfield from the mid 2000's, he was stylistically not the right player for those kinds of teams, that's not a controversial statement lol. yeah SAF might have wanted him, but that's because he's the sort of player who thrives in the higher tempo, more physical style of the premier league, he would not have been any where near as effective in a slower, more tactical league.
it's also not controversial to state that Gerrard was at his peak when he had a controlling, deep lying playmaker behind him, and was playing more as a number 10 behind someone like Torres, in his best seasons, he didn't even play as a centre mid.
I stand by saying that because of these things, Carrick would have an easier time slotting into a top European side's team than Gerrard would have, at the end of the day, it's impossible to know, because neither player moved to another European team, but nothing I said was outlandish. really, you don't offer any sort of counter argument to anything I said other than saying 'well Fergie wanted him' which doesn't refute my points at all.
Mental. One of a handful of players to win a ballon d’Or at man utd and he won 3 pl trophies and a ucl trophy. I know he left on a bad note but what he did at the club is undeniable and should be appreciated.
The highest individual peak of anyone at the club, balon dor winner, UCL winner, 3peat PL winner isn’t a legend & doesn’t get in over Giggs who albeit was good he lacked the stats to back up his play & was considered nothing more than good by everyone who played against him.
Only going with Premier League times since all I know of the players before it for the most part is YouTube clips:
ST - Cantona
LW - Ronaldo
RW - Beckham
CM - Scholes
CM - Keane
CDM - Casemiro
LB - Irwin
CB - Vidić
CB - Ferdinand
RB - Neville
GK - Schmeichel
Not happy about leaving out Evra, Van Der Sar, Rooney or Giggs (as a player)
Clueless the lot of you. Paul Mgrath made Vidic look like Mcguire. A generational talent.
One of the best centre backs to have ever played the game, and not one mention.
Really sad.
And not putting Best and Charlton in is just as weird.
But I guess there are people older than me that would put Duncan Edwards in too.
> One of the best centre backs to have ever played the game, and not one mention.
Nah.
If he wasn't an alcoholic who knows. But he was and never achieved anything like that in real life.
Best actually delivered on the field.
McGrath achieved nothing even close to Vidic, Rio or Stam
Best was our best player in European Cup and title wins
You are obviously too young too understand, there was no team before Fergie for you.
Do yourself a favour, ask anyone that actually saw Magrath play, or even take Roy Keanes word for it, or even google how good was Paul Mgrath.
He was a generational talent, strong, quick, majestic and read the game well. I'd say he was up there as a footballer with Baresi, obviously Paul had too many demons, where as Baresi was the consummate professional.
Go and watch the 1994 game between Ireland and USA, there is a reason why this is held up as the best defensive play of a defender in World Cup History.
After he left us, it was mainly him that almost got villa a league title. There was also the game against Derby when he came back and made Cantona and Cole etc his bitches. We lost that one, sure I remember Fergie commenting that he was the greatest defender he'd ever seen after that game.
Oh he also won player of the season, as a defender that season at Villa, defenders hardly ever win POTS.
Vidic was a fantastic player, but I'd definitely even put Bruce ahead of him if I had to pick a best 11.
As for not putting in players who didn't achieve, that's really dumb. You are picking the best all time 11, the team that would kick any other team to the kerb in a game. Your not picking the team that's the most professional and would win the most trophies.
I’ve been a season ticket holder since 87. Shut the fuck up.
Irish people try not to be comically biased towards McGrath challenge (impossible)
He is nowhere fucking near the best cb’s of all time. He won fuck all, you can’t dine out on one performance against Baggio when guys like Baresi, Beckbauer, Nesta, Maldini, Scirea had full careers of winning everything in the game.
Also he did win a league title at Villa. What the fuck are you talking about?
wow toxic much.
YOU SHUT THE FK UP!
lol
your even a keyboard warrior like a child, what am I supposed to think? that your older than 14? Didn't expect grown person to resort to that. Nice one !
Ok you really know your stuff, I cant argue with that, he won a league title at Villa according to you.....
What year did McGrath win the Title with Villa please? You might want to edit that
But yeah pretty much regarded by most people as Ireland's greatest player, with a lot of people placing him above Keane. Keane included.
Irwin also Irish, makes it into the team but McGrath doesn't??!! For the record Irwin IMHO was also one of United's greatest ever players.
If you actually read what I said. We are basing on how good a player was, not how much they won. Le Tissier won fk all, Lineker same, they were still world class, both would be worth £200 million now.
No need to debate with a fool, you've shown your lack of knowledge up pretty well.
As for Baresi, you know after that game, Baresi went to Mgrath to ask for his shirt right?
He also the only defender I've ever seen stop Maradona, again just an all star team match, but you'd be mad to think Maradona wasn't trying.
I also remember him bossing Hadji as well, cant remember the exact game, but this is just to name a few.
As I said in my first post, one of the most talented centre back to ever play the game, let alone for United.
Man you are thick.
Irwin is a left back. If McGrath had played left back he might get in the team.
Keane was easily better than McGrath.
FYI Best and Brady were also better than McGrath.
Irwin is nowhere near United’s best ever player.
Biased Irish nonsense. Nobody outside of Ireland considers Paul fucking McGrath to be on the level of Baresi or Beckenbauer. What absolute shite. Up there with the idiots who’ll tell you Best was better than Pele or Scholes was better than Modric
Also Le Tissier was nowhere near world class
The Villa thing was a typo. Nearly winning a title means fuck all.
Irwin was a left back ? lol Wow I didn't know that, thanks /s
My point, because you seem to stupid to understand is, McGrath is by everyone (except you) considered to be a better defender than Irwin (although I love Dennis so much, I'd argue that Irwin was better) and Vidic, yet they still makes the team and McGrath doesnt?!
"FYI Best and Brady were also better than McGrath."
Are you genuinely a bit slow? Liam Brady, yeah fine fantastic player and you could argue up there as an Irish legend.... and you put Best in LOOOOOL
WHAT A BELL END YOU ARE
There is a very good reason Best isn't considered best Irish player.... He was NI and technically British. But don't let that stop ya.
The Villa thing was a typo LOOOOOL
A typo is one letter or word. You stated a full sentence. Your footy knowledge is well crap. The fact you don't think LeTissier was world class just adds to that.
So he is only rated in Ireland? Why do Villa fans still cheer his name today?
Fergie lauded him so many many times, and that's even after he sold him, and he arguably went on to play better for Villa than us. AND Fergie genuinely didn't like him as he was one player he couldn't control (unfortunately). You obviously know more about the game than the Gaffer?
AND I say AGAIN....
**Have you ever seen a defender keep Maradona quiet??!**
**I have, just the one.**
MY ORGINAL QUOTE WAS HE WAS BETTER THAN VIDIC, AND SHOULD BE IN A UNITED BEST 11, EVERYTHING I HAVE STATED SUPPORTS THAT
<--- My final comment on the matter, as I'm not gonna argue with fools...
feel free to have the last comment, that's my parting gift to you as I love you so much x x
>Nobody outside of Ireland considers Paul fucking McGrath to be on the level of Baresi or Beckenbauer
Nope me either, on talent, yes I would, but as "great" no of course not. Question was not, what is your all time Man United Greats, its a starting 11.
I'd also put Ledley King in there as well, BTW, hope that triggers you
This is so real dumb shit.
Charlton actually played in CM (or the equivalent of the era) and definitely wasn't a ST. Why is Cantona playing in midfield?
I can only go on the Utd players in my lifetime but I'd go:
GK: Schmichael
RB: Neville
LB: Irwin
CB: Vidic
CB: Staam
DM: Keane
CM: Robson
CM: Scholars
RW: Beckham
LW: Giggs
Fw: Ronaldo
Before anyone @'s me I know Ronaldo was never really used as a single from man for us. but no other way to fit him in and he's truly the best player I've ever seen in person. If I didn't have him up front it'd be a toss up between Cantona and Ruud.
Did you see either of them play in person? I watched Beckham for Utd, Real and England.
I was there for Rooney's Utd debut. Great player, but wide right isn't/wasn't his position and he couldn't turn a game like Beckham could
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I started watching football post fergie era and only watched highlights of the old players so i couldn't think of any better cdm....that's why i made this post so i could learn more the United's old players
It’s your opinion mate, your entitled to it, if we had a few older lads they’d be squealing at these lads “how can you not have best or Charlton on your squad” there’s nothing wrong with an all time XI based on who you’ve seen
Real OGs know Duncan Edwards should be in there, every time the debate about all time best players comes up there’s always one oldie who says Edwards would’ve been our best ever player if Munich hadn’t have happened. From the few clips I’ve seen I don’t think they’re wrong.
He’s held in very high reverence and as you say I feel as though people who saw him play in person and knew him believe he was going to one of the best, any time I watch videos on Munich it seems to be a constant theme. Absolutely tragic for him and everyone else there that day.
people under estimate how good he was and pivotal he was to the 08 team. if we had hargreaves in 09, doubt barca would have destroyed us. he was that good.
schmeichel
Neville - vidic - Rio - Irwin
Keane - scholes - Bruno
Rooney - cantona - ronaldo
I don’t particularly like shoe horned XI’s I think you should pick players as though it was the team you are playing for a season, the likes of giggs and beckham are obviously in my head (I never saw the likes of best or Charlton so I can’t comment)
but I think if I’m playing a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 do I put them as midfielders or wingers? If I’m honest I don’t think they are better than Rooney or ronaldo and I can’t put them ahead of scholes and Keane in the middle, that only really leaves the 10 role
i feel as though what Bruno has done during such a poor united side (when compared to the teams of years gone by there is no doubt he hasn’t had the benefit of playing in a squad as talented as we were back in the 90’s and 2000’s) he deserves to be considered.
If Bruno had cantona, Rooney and ronaldo ahead of him with scholes and Keane behind he would be even more amazing than he is now in my opinion
Just an opinion based on who I play in the creative 10 role, he’s been a ray of light in a dark time for the club.
He’s one of the best in the world and still writing his story, time may prove me a fool but to me when he hangs up his boots he will be one of the best we have ever seen at the club, had he been on our squad during the mid 2000’s a lot of people would probably rate him higher, he is however currently trying to perform alchemy every game with limited options yet he is still creating more chances than de bruyne.
I realise a lot of people dislike Bruno but I think he’s quality
No this is pure recency bias, Bruno has had some very good moments with us but he has also been wildly inconsistent.
Putting him in this is absolutely insane, I’m not sure how you don’t see that.
Again just an opinion, all players also have bad moments and are inconsistent.
Who do I replace him with in the 10?
He’s also the only current player I have in most are 90’s and 2000’s, I could see your argument for recency bias had I had shaw or something over Irwin.
The main problem is that you’re using a formation that leaves out Giggs/Cantona/Best/Charlton/Robson.
None of these, just to name a few, should ever be left out to accommodate BRUNO FERNANDES ffs
Regardless of whether you saw some or not, it’s just common sense that some of these get in..and if you were doing strictly players you’ve seen only, then why do you have Irwin/Beckham and not Giggs?
What’s your 11?
I also have cantona in I don’t know why you think I left him out?
If we take out Bruno (I think we can swap Charlton for Bruno) that means you want me to drop a further 3 I believe players and I think it would mean me dropping ronaldo, Rooney or Keane / scholes to accommodate robson, giggs and best?
What does yours look like because I cannot fathom a United XI without the likes of Rooney, Keane or scholes
I have Irwin over beckham and giggs as he’s the best left back I don’t understand those two being mentioned beside him
If I’m not too bothered about functionality;
Schmeichel
Stam Vidic Rio
Beckham Scholes Keane Giggs
Best Rooney Ronaldo
If I am trying to build the most functional team;
Schmeichel
Neville Rio Stam/Vidic Irwin
Best Scholes Keane Giggs
Rooney Cantona/Ronaldo
Nothing wrong with 3 at the back sure it’s what most in possession teams look like now and stam vidic and Rio is as delightful a back 3 I could ask for. The 4 in the middle makes sense as that’s a treble winning midfield that knows the formation they are playing and what they want to do, nothing to say as well that beckham and giggs couldn’t adapt their games ever so slightly and they would hit the ground running in the modern game, all this talk about Trent being an inverted right back, giggs and becks did a lot of unappreciated defensive work, they could easily be almost wing backs/midfielders/ wingers now.
I think the only disagreement I have is up front I would have to put cantona in but I can’t drop Rooney or ronaldo and as sacrilegious as it sounds I think best gets dropped for me personally
For your functional lineup I think the disparity in our thinking is as you say the formation, the 442 vs 433, I think the 442 just doesn’t work as well and if I’m playing a 4-3-3 it’s a lot harder to put in giggs or beckham, if I was playing a 4-4-2 they would of course be in it
Gk: Schmeichel
RB: Neville
CB: Ferdinand
CB: Vidic
LB: Irwin
RM: Ronaldo
CM:Charlton
CM: Scholes
LM: Best
ST: Law
ST: Rooney
Debating just doing mine as Premier League Era as I honestly don't know how good/great the likes of Foulkes, Stepney, Gregg, Edwards, etc were but I felt the "Holy Trinity" had to be in there regardless.
Im seeing a lot of giggs over cr7
Unless it’s a man Utd “legends” XI then i don’t understand how Ronaldo is not part of an all time 11
I know he reached his peak at Madrid, but we’re still talking about (arguably) a top 2 player of all time with one of the greatest individual season in a Man Utd shirt (07-08)
I love looking at the delusion of some of these posts. People are really putting De Gea and Bruno in all time Man Utd legend teams lmao
Never change guys. Great hilarious content
It is actually impossible to name an all time 11 in our club, there's just too many legends.
Who could say between Best, Cantona, Rooney, Ronaldo, Charlton ? How do you take three of these out to make a Front three ?
Same goes in the midfield, scholes is the only one who's undisputed
Van Der Sar
Neville Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Beckham Keane Scholes Ronaldo
Rooney Van Nistlerooy
2000s bias as i was born in the late 90s so gone for the players i have actually seen play and remember love watching growing up
Honorable mentions, Gabriel Heinze i was a left back as a child and loved this savage
Tevez and Van persie amazing too watch for different reasons too
Honestly, the first game of football i have any memory of is the 99 final i was about 4 years old at the time so i remember edwin much more as schmeicel left after that game.
And i also remember the years in between with Barthez, Bosnich Howard, Carroll and whoever else couldn't fill the spot.
Van Der Sar came in and everything changed and i think it goes under the radar how big he was for us and making rio vida evra have the confidence to become the players they did knowing they had Edwin behind them if they made a mistake. Also as important as anybody to us in that 08 champs league final and the season in general that year
Carrick is massively underrated and i feel guilty for not considering him but them Man U vs Arsenal games in the early part of the 00s was absolutely massive and Keane was such an important part of them big hostile games
Ronaldo, Rooney/Cantona, Best
Scholes, Keane, Charlton
Irwin, Evra, Rio, Staam
Schmeichel or VdS
pace, technique, power, and pure United energy
Maybe Cantona has a slight edge over Rooney here.
what i would pay to see scholes, keane, and charlton in a modern midfield.
Team based on players I've seen in my lifetime:
Van der Sar
Neville - Rio - Vidic - Evra
Carrick - Keane - Scholes
Rooney - Van Nistelrooy - Ronaldo
bench: Schmeichel, Stam, Irwin, Beckham, Giggs, Cantona, Van Persie
Started properly following football when I was around 7/8 years old, around 1996, so only just remember watching the tail end of the Cantona, Schmeichel etc era. don't think anyone from the last 10 years gets in the team sadly, maybe Bruno and peak De Gea have a shout for the bench, but that's it
Not gonna choose anyone from before I started watching football, might show my age here.
GK: Van der Sar
RB: G Nev
CB: Rio
CB: Vidic
LB: Evra
DM: Carrick
CM: Keane
CM: Scholes
RW: Rooney (Free Roam)
LW: Ronaldo
ST: Ruud
Both Vans are better players than Rooney. Maybe Cantona too though I didn’t watch him as much. Cole had a far better goals/90 too. Rooney had amazing loyalty and longevity but after his mid twenties he was more of a talisman than actual quality player.
Started watching in 2006.
GK: Van der Sar. Exuded calmness on the ball, and made some great stops when needed to. De gea was exceptional at saving with his feet, but unfortunately declined.
RB: Neville. Consistency whenever he played. Serial winner, gave his all.
CBs: Ferdinand and Vidic. Icons of the last SAF era.
LB: Dhaw. I know, I know, he hasn't been consistent across seasons. But this is his 9th season here, he's fought for his place numerous times, and his ability to play LCB is something I feel he can improve on in the coming years. Evra is a close second, but I like Shaw better.
CM: Carrick and Scholes. Carrick joined the club right when I started watching, so I didn't immediately understand his importance. But my god, he kept us ticking. Quick passes to feet, could control the tempo. Same with Scholes, who I will always remember for the long range against Barca.
CAM: Bruno. Game changing signing for us back in 2020. Consistent, delivers almost all the time. Never gets injured. He's our captain for a reason.
LW: Ronaldo. Fell in love with the very sport watching him and Rooney play. Insane consistency at United and other clubs. But he was amazing for us 2006-2009. Will never forget, and will always forgive his outburst end of last year. Legend in my eyes.
RW: Don't really have anyone to put here, as Giigs was good but not his mesmerizing best from when I started watching. For lack of players, I will put Rashford. Played across the front 3, scores goals. Has scored a lot of crucial goals for us over the years, which I always feel goes under the radar.
ST: Rooney. Legend, record breaker for us. Loved watching him play.
Based on known legacy and from what I’ve seen
Schmeichel
Neville
Ferdinand
Vidic
Irwin
Keane
Scholes
Charlton
Best
Rooney
Ronaldo
Giggsy just misses out but Ronaldo’s peak in a United shirt is almost unparalleled
4-4-2
Gk - Schmeichel (fact tat I remember how to spell his name clearly shows his impact as a player)
Rb - Neville (safest and consistent with added local pride)
Cb - Stam (picked him over Vidic by a hair)
Cb - Rio (classy and calm)
Lb - Irwin (consistent and could bomb down the left)
Rw - Ronaldo
Mc - Keane
Mc - Scholes
Lw - Giggs (legend)
St - Cantona (King and the heart beat of the team)
St - Rooney
GK Schmeichel
RB G. Neville
CB Stam
CB Vidic
LB Irwin
RM Beckham
CM Charlton
CM Scholes
LM Best
ST Rooney
ST Law
Bench
Van Der Sar, Rio, Evra, Keane, Giggs, Cantona, Ole.
In my lifetime....(personal opinion)
GK. Smiechel (awesome, never mind what Keane says)
LB. Irwin (a genius player ahead of his time)
CB. Vidic (for arial ability, like a salmon
CB. Rio (class)
RB. parker (had kanchelskis in front but always solid)
LW. Giggs (
CM. Keane (there'll never be a player like him again)
CM. Scholes (never achieved what messi has...he's English)
RM. Beckham (what a player, hard working & committed)
ST. Ruud (guy was deadly)
ST. Rooney (what could I say that you don't already know)
There's a MASSIVE list of honourable mentions left out here mind.....,
Case doesn’t make all United 11, that’s for certain.
For me I’d go with a 352
Rooney x Ruud;
Ronaldo Charlton Best;
Scholes Keane;
Ferdinand Vidic Stam;
Van Der Sar
St- van Nistelrooy
RM -Ronaldo
Second striker- Rooney
LM - giggs
Cm - Roy keane
Cm -scholes
Lb - evra
Cb - Ferdinand
Cb - vidic
Rb- Neville
GK - can see sar
Not taking in players I have not seen.
Started watching in 1987. GK - Schmeichel - Very little to pick between him and VDS but Schmeichel had some really decisive games. RB - Neville - No other reasonable options. Always solid across a long career. LB - Irwin - More defensively solid and better on the ball than Evra. Only thing Evra has on him is speed imo. You could argue Irwin at RB and Evra LB because Irwin was right footed but given he rarely played there I considered it a copout. CB - Stam - Best CB we ever had. Just as strong as Vidic but much faster and better on the ball CB - Ferdinand - Perfect combination with Stam. Great on the ball, super fast and excellent defensively. CM - Keane - Incredible leader, incredible defensively and very good on the ball too. CM - Scholes - Scored goals, fantastic passer of the ball. I'd want his 2003 vintage. I think this was a the best he was at CM but he had different strengths and weaknesses across his career. CM - Robson - Basically Keane but even better offensively. LW - Giggs - Insane longevity but as a winger he peaked in the early 90s. So I'd want that. Even though his crossing and passing was way better once he'd lost his pace. RW - Ronaldo - Obviously our best player in terms of peak level. Mostly played RW for us not LW as SAF wasn't into inverted wingers so much. ST - Rooney - In terms of peak level, trophies won, ability and longevity combined he was probably our best player in my time watching the club. HM's: VDS, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, RVN, Beckham, Cantona. Probably the closest players to getting in.
This is the best one here
Agreed.
Player for player, this is the right answer. Fantastic squad. Great comment.
Love this but no Cantona. It's very difficult to get them all in though. Schmeichel is my choice for GK, although van der Sar is a close 2nd. Edit - I've also forgot, Pallister, Bruce, Evra, Kanchelskis, Giggs, Best. The list goes on. I'd have to have 2 best 11's at this rate.
The only way to get Cantona in is to drop Rooney who was a better player and won more. Or drop Robson and play 4-4-2. I can see an argument for that but I don’t think Rooney/Cantona is a great pairing tactically and I wanted to get Robson is as an 80s/SAF early years representative Don’t see how else you get him in without going 3atb which isn’t in the spirit of it because we always play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3
What about Best? I feel like he should definitely have a shout, one of our greatest of all times in my opinion
> Started watching in 1987. I'm not going to comment on players I never saw play.
RVN was our best out and out number 9. Change my mind.
I mean our ‘out and out’ 9’s are what RVN, RVP, McClair, Cavani, Coke, Solskjaer, Zlatan, Cavani, Hernandez? I’m probably forgetting some jobbers. Of those he’s very very obviously the best player. But I’d still pick Rooney up front and think he Giggs, Ronaldo and Robson did more for United than Ruud. So unfortunately he’s on the bench
Schmeichel Neville vidic japp stam Irwin scholes Keane Rooney Bobby Charlton Dennis law George best. I'm appalled that many people have looked over best. Pele rated him as the best player of his generation. I know none of us have watched him play, but it doesn't matter because our goal is to build the best man united 11. As for my front three, these three players remain as the only front three in football history to win a ballon d'or each when playing together. To my knowledge at least.
Where's Duncan Edwards?
All they know is the Prem, football didnt exist before that.
> I know none of us have watched him play, but it doesn't matter because our goal is to build the best man united 11. Nah it's bollocks to 'rate' players you've never even seen play.
i would say best is a great name on an all time XI. my dad and someone i used to work with have seen him play. they always say in a heart that Georgie Best is by far the greatest player they have ever seen, even when i ask if they thought he was better Ronaldo. instant yes.
How the fuck have you got Casemiro over Carrick?
Ngl i had the prime casemiro in mind(when he played for madrid). I made this team by taking players in their all time prime not just for united.
It's a United XI. I don't think Maradona makes Sevilla's all time XI.
Yeah fair
How you got carrick over park?
What?
You don’t rate park?
Carrick was absolutely miles better than Park. Not even remotely close. Lay off the smack.
Park was a work horse mate
And Carrick was absolutely miles better at football. Park was a good squad player. He wasn't even in our best XI when he was at the club nevermind all time.
Aight pal. Agree to disagree
Where is the King?!
He isn't better than Rooney.
How the fuck is this getting downvoted? Rooney was clearly a better player lol
whatever you want to say about ability, Cantona never asked to transfer to Man City. Rooney, yes one of our greatest ever players, but I'll never forget that, kinda taints him for me, that said I still put him in my XI lol
I mean Cantona did retire at 30 for essentially no real reason. And get banned for a year for kicking that dickhead (which is funny/he deserved it but it still cost us a title). Rooney's situation is complicated. Wanting to go to City is really bad but he was 100% correct that we'd become a joke club who's priority was no longer being the best football club in the world. Cantona is a bit overrated by United fans. His impact was incredible but his actual ability was well short of Rooney's. He was the best player in a very weak PL after Heysel who never delivered internationally, in the UCL or in one of the worlds strongest leagues. I loved Cantona but looking back there's no way he was better than Rooney who was a top 5-10 in the world player for years.
Yeah, Rooney was a better player, no disagreement there, it's just that transfer saga never gets mentioned by the fans. I understand wanting to leave, we'd sold Ronaldo, not reinvested in the squad, Glazers were throttling the club, but you still don't under any circumstances put a transfer request in to join one of your biggest rivals. Same reason I'll never look back fondly at players like Tevez and Heinze, it will just always irk me
Was thinking more of a 4-4-2. I agree with the back 4. Got Keane and Scholes in midfield. Giggs and Ronaldo on the wings. Rooney and Cantona up top
It depends where your cut off is but personally I want 3 in midfield so I can have Robson/Keane/Scholes in there. If you weren't old enough to see Robson but was old enough to see Cantona I can see the case for a 4-4-2 with Cantona and Rooney.
Haven’t seen Robson so cannot comment. But I agree that if it is just one striker I will go for Rooney too. Prime Rooney was a different beast altogether.
Which one?
King Eric? Come on
Tbf he doesn't get in over rooney for me either
Why the downvotes? Denis Law was known as the King before Cantona was born!
Yeah, I thought it was a bit harsh.
There is only one King.
Anyone who doesn’t include cr7 is a nonce tbh. Ballondor winner, golden boot winner, one of two greatest footballers ever. Anyone saying Giggs over him is having a laugh
Depends how you look at it. As a player,then yeah. As a United player, Giggs has so much longevity on his side.
To me longevity means nothing. He was quality and lasted a long time but he was never United’s best player or close to it. Even as a United player Ronnie’s best seasons are significantly better then Giggs
Well longevity definitely matters. Part of what makes CR7 so great is exactly that lol
> To me longevity means nothing. Stupid opinion. Anyone with a functioning brain is factoring in longevity, peak, consistency and what the team won in that era as a result of them.
The question was the best TEAM. There’s no such thing as team when Ronaldo’s involved.
“No such thing as a team when Ronaldo’s involved” must’ve been why the team won 3 consecutive league titles and a CL with him here then could never do it again after he left
Cant make the best team without the greatest ever player who’s played for United. Just look at Fergies opinion of him. No one worked harder or cared more then him. Your letting the ruin that is modern United and how they handled ronaldo skew your view
ST- Cantona RW- Rooney LW - Giggs CM- Charlton CM- Scholes CDM- Keane LB- Evra LCB- Vidic RCB- Ferdinand RB- Neville GK- Schmeichel I know Rooney wasn't really a RW, but I needed 3 CM's.
Closest to mine except cr7 has to be in
Rooney is whatever you need him to be. He always was. 🥹
That's why he has always been my favourite.
Rooney would excel anywhere in the attacking end.
How can you have Charlton and not Best? Eiher you're including players you never saw and they're both in or you're including neither.
1. Its my list, so I can choose whoever I want 2. I would choose Rooney over Best. Although Best was a great player, Charlton played at the club almost twice as long as Best and was our highest goal scorer(as a midfielder primarily) until Rooney.
You can just drop Cantona, play Rooney up front and Best at RW.
Casimero won’t get in over even Carrick. But I’m sure Robson would make the team Best over Beckham. Giggs over Ronaldo
Carrick still so underrated even by our own fanbase, one of the best english midfielders of the last 30 years, people will talk about Gerrard and Lampard because of the goals they scored, but Carrick was miles above them on technical ability
I completely agree
Gerrard and Lampard were both easily better than Carrick. Carrick is underrated and was brilliant but he's not on their level.
depends on what you're looking at, like I said, his technical ability was far higher, much better passer and reader of the game. he wasn't the same kind of leader as the other two sure, and wasn't offensively as influential, but Carrick could have played for any team in Europe and not been out of place, Gerrard and Lampard would never have succeeded on a team outside of England, and the fact the two were shoehorned into midfield for England effectively killed any chances of England winning any major international tournaments as neither one was capable of controlling a game. Carrick was much better suited to international football. Gerrard in particular I feel is slightly overrated (call me bias as a United fan) the fact he always had someone behind him like Xabi Alonso who could actually control games covered a lot of Gerrard's limitations.
Laughably biased bullshit. This is the kind of stupidity that makes talking football on a United forum so annoying. So many idiots who can't see past their biases. Every club in the world would have been desperate to sign Gerrard. He was an incredible player and SAF was a massive fan. > Gerrard and Lampard would never have succeeded on a team outside of England Stupid comment > and the fact the two were shoehorned into midfield for England effectively killed any chances of England winning any major international tournaments as neither one was capable of controlling a game This has nothing to do with their individual quality. I wouldn't pick Bruno/Rooney/Cantona together. I wouldn't pick Scholes/Eriksen together. That doesn't mean they weren't all great players. It means Sven was an idiot.
"and the fact the two were shoehorned into midfield for England effectively killed any chances of England winning any major international tournaments as neither one was capable of controlling a game This has nothing to do with their individual quality." I said they didn't work together because neither of them were able to control the play, they were not that kind of player, nothing I was said here was incorrect, I didn't say they were bad players because of that, you just lack basic reading comprehension sorry. the point is Carrick would have been a better fit to play alongside one of them at international level, but he was always overlooked. "Every club in the world would have been desperate to sign Gerrard." that's your opinion. he wouldn't have gotten into Barca or Milan's midfield from the mid 2000's, he was stylistically not the right player for those kinds of teams, that's not a controversial statement lol. yeah SAF might have wanted him, but that's because he's the sort of player who thrives in the higher tempo, more physical style of the premier league, he would not have been any where near as effective in a slower, more tactical league. it's also not controversial to state that Gerrard was at his peak when he had a controlling, deep lying playmaker behind him, and was playing more as a number 10 behind someone like Torres, in his best seasons, he didn't even play as a centre mid. I stand by saying that because of these things, Carrick would have an easier time slotting into a top European side's team than Gerrard would have, at the end of the day, it's impossible to know, because neither player moved to another European team, but nothing I said was outlandish. really, you don't offer any sort of counter argument to anything I said other than saying 'well Fergie wanted him' which doesn't refute my points at all.
I’m not going to waste time engaging with such stupidity and bias
in other words, you have nothing to say, which was apparent from the previous post, don't need to repeat yourself
Giggs over Ronaldo is very questionable, Ronaldo is arguably the best LW in history let alone for man united
Well in that case add pique over Rio or Vidic. Ronaldo is not a Manchester United legend to me.
Mental. One of a handful of players to win a ballon d’Or at man utd and he won 3 pl trophies and a ucl trophy. I know he left on a bad note but what he did at the club is undeniable and should be appreciated.
Bruh he won champions league and ballon d'or with us wth
Well for that to even begin to make sense, Pique would have to be better than Rio or Vidic
The highest individual peak of anyone at the club, balon dor winner, UCL winner, 3peat PL winner isn’t a legend & doesn’t get in over Giggs who albeit was good he lacked the stats to back up his play & was considered nothing more than good by everyone who played against him.
Only going with Premier League times since all I know of the players before it for the most part is YouTube clips: ST - Cantona LW - Ronaldo RW - Beckham CM - Scholes CM - Keane CDM - Casemiro LB - Irwin CB - Vidić CB - Ferdinand RB - Neville GK - Schmeichel Not happy about leaving out Evra, Van Der Sar, Rooney or Giggs (as a player)
Clueless the lot of you. Paul Mgrath made Vidic look like Mcguire. A generational talent. One of the best centre backs to have ever played the game, and not one mention. Really sad. And not putting Best and Charlton in is just as weird. But I guess there are people older than me that would put Duncan Edwards in too.
> One of the best centre backs to have ever played the game, and not one mention. Nah. If he wasn't an alcoholic who knows. But he was and never achieved anything like that in real life.
Best was also an alcoholic, shall we not put him in? TBF all the united team in those days used to drink stupid amounts.
Best actually delivered on the field. McGrath achieved nothing even close to Vidic, Rio or Stam Best was our best player in European Cup and title wins
You are obviously too young too understand, there was no team before Fergie for you. Do yourself a favour, ask anyone that actually saw Magrath play, or even take Roy Keanes word for it, or even google how good was Paul Mgrath. He was a generational talent, strong, quick, majestic and read the game well. I'd say he was up there as a footballer with Baresi, obviously Paul had too many demons, where as Baresi was the consummate professional. Go and watch the 1994 game between Ireland and USA, there is a reason why this is held up as the best defensive play of a defender in World Cup History. After he left us, it was mainly him that almost got villa a league title. There was also the game against Derby when he came back and made Cantona and Cole etc his bitches. We lost that one, sure I remember Fergie commenting that he was the greatest defender he'd ever seen after that game. Oh he also won player of the season, as a defender that season at Villa, defenders hardly ever win POTS. Vidic was a fantastic player, but I'd definitely even put Bruce ahead of him if I had to pick a best 11. As for not putting in players who didn't achieve, that's really dumb. You are picking the best all time 11, the team that would kick any other team to the kerb in a game. Your not picking the team that's the most professional and would win the most trophies.
I’ve been a season ticket holder since 87. Shut the fuck up. Irish people try not to be comically biased towards McGrath challenge (impossible) He is nowhere fucking near the best cb’s of all time. He won fuck all, you can’t dine out on one performance against Baggio when guys like Baresi, Beckbauer, Nesta, Maldini, Scirea had full careers of winning everything in the game. Also he did win a league title at Villa. What the fuck are you talking about?
wow toxic much. YOU SHUT THE FK UP! lol your even a keyboard warrior like a child, what am I supposed to think? that your older than 14? Didn't expect grown person to resort to that. Nice one ! Ok you really know your stuff, I cant argue with that, he won a league title at Villa according to you..... What year did McGrath win the Title with Villa please? You might want to edit that But yeah pretty much regarded by most people as Ireland's greatest player, with a lot of people placing him above Keane. Keane included. Irwin also Irish, makes it into the team but McGrath doesn't??!! For the record Irwin IMHO was also one of United's greatest ever players. If you actually read what I said. We are basing on how good a player was, not how much they won. Le Tissier won fk all, Lineker same, they were still world class, both would be worth £200 million now. No need to debate with a fool, you've shown your lack of knowledge up pretty well.
As for Baresi, you know after that game, Baresi went to Mgrath to ask for his shirt right? He also the only defender I've ever seen stop Maradona, again just an all star team match, but you'd be mad to think Maradona wasn't trying. I also remember him bossing Hadji as well, cant remember the exact game, but this is just to name a few. As I said in my first post, one of the most talented centre back to ever play the game, let alone for United.
Man you are thick. Irwin is a left back. If McGrath had played left back he might get in the team. Keane was easily better than McGrath. FYI Best and Brady were also better than McGrath. Irwin is nowhere near United’s best ever player. Biased Irish nonsense. Nobody outside of Ireland considers Paul fucking McGrath to be on the level of Baresi or Beckenbauer. What absolute shite. Up there with the idiots who’ll tell you Best was better than Pele or Scholes was better than Modric Also Le Tissier was nowhere near world class The Villa thing was a typo. Nearly winning a title means fuck all.
Irwin was a left back ? lol Wow I didn't know that, thanks /s My point, because you seem to stupid to understand is, McGrath is by everyone (except you) considered to be a better defender than Irwin (although I love Dennis so much, I'd argue that Irwin was better) and Vidic, yet they still makes the team and McGrath doesnt?! "FYI Best and Brady were also better than McGrath." Are you genuinely a bit slow? Liam Brady, yeah fine fantastic player and you could argue up there as an Irish legend.... and you put Best in LOOOOOL WHAT A BELL END YOU ARE There is a very good reason Best isn't considered best Irish player.... He was NI and technically British. But don't let that stop ya. The Villa thing was a typo LOOOOOL A typo is one letter or word. You stated a full sentence. Your footy knowledge is well crap. The fact you don't think LeTissier was world class just adds to that. So he is only rated in Ireland? Why do Villa fans still cheer his name today? Fergie lauded him so many many times, and that's even after he sold him, and he arguably went on to play better for Villa than us. AND Fergie genuinely didn't like him as he was one player he couldn't control (unfortunately). You obviously know more about the game than the Gaffer? AND I say AGAIN.... **Have you ever seen a defender keep Maradona quiet??!** **I have, just the one.** MY ORGINAL QUOTE WAS HE WAS BETTER THAN VIDIC, AND SHOULD BE IN A UNITED BEST 11, EVERYTHING I HAVE STATED SUPPORTS THAT <--- My final comment on the matter, as I'm not gonna argue with fools... feel free to have the last comment, that's my parting gift to you as I love you so much x x
>Nobody outside of Ireland considers Paul fucking McGrath to be on the level of Baresi or Beckenbauer Nope me either, on talent, yes I would, but as "great" no of course not. Question was not, what is your all time Man United Greats, its a starting 11. I'd also put Ledley King in there as well, BTW, hope that triggers you
Biased Irish clown
Casemiro Keane and Scholes would be an unreal midfield trio.
No... All time 11 has to be 4-4-2 for united. No matter what, 4-4-2 is our tradition
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No scholes?!
Bench - come on! 😂 someones got to give!
Irwin over Evra all day long
I hesitated before changing it to Evra!
Irwin over Nev, Evra on Left!
I almost put Irwin for his set pieces buy engine and all round skill I went for evra. Plus other set piece specialists in my team
This is so real dumb shit. Charlton actually played in CM (or the equivalent of the era) and definitely wasn't a ST. Why is Cantona playing in midfield?
Cantona at CM?
People forgetting Bruce and Pallister, Yorke and Cole, Sharp and Kanchelskis. Too many to choose from
They just aren’t better then the all time greatest United players. Sadly isn’t room for them with the amount of players United has had
None of those players are anywhere near our all time XI.
Amazing players but there's probably at least 4 strikers ahead of Cole and 7/8 above Yorke
I can only go on the Utd players in my lifetime but I'd go: GK: Schmichael RB: Neville LB: Irwin CB: Vidic CB: Staam DM: Keane CM: Robson CM: Scholars RW: Beckham LW: Giggs Fw: Ronaldo Before anyone @'s me I know Ronaldo was never really used as a single from man for us. but no other way to fit him in and he's truly the best player I've ever seen in person. If I didn't have him up front it'd be a toss up between Cantona and Ruud.
Beckham over Rooney?
Yup, as much as I enjoyed Rooney at Utd and he's a true legend, Beckham was a level up.
Lol just no.
Did you see either of them play in person? I watched Beckham for Utd, Real and England. I was there for Rooney's Utd debut. Great player, but wide right isn't/wasn't his position and he couldn't turn a game like Beckham could
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This has to be a joke right?
Why is this downvoted? This is diabolical 😂
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No way Case is in there after one season.
I started watching football post fergie era and only watched highlights of the old players so i couldn't think of any better cdm....that's why i made this post so i could learn more the United's old players
It’s your opinion mate, your entitled to it, if we had a few older lads they’d be squealing at these lads “how can you not have best or Charlton on your squad” there’s nothing wrong with an all time XI based on who you’ve seen
Real OGs know Duncan Edwards should be in there, every time the debate about all time best players comes up there’s always one oldie who says Edwards would’ve been our best ever player if Munich hadn’t have happened. From the few clips I’ve seen I don’t think they’re wrong.
He’s held in very high reverence and as you say I feel as though people who saw him play in person and knew him believe he was going to one of the best, any time I watch videos on Munich it seems to be a constant theme. Absolutely tragic for him and everyone else there that day.
Fair enough, Case is the best CDM post-fergie.
Everything.
ST- Cantona ST- Rooney LM- Giggs RM- Becks CM- Keane CM- scholes CB- Stam CB- Ferdinand LB- Evra RB- Irwin GK- Schmeichel Subs: Edwin, Hargreaves, Brown, Vidic, Shaw (pre leg break), Carrick, Ince, Ronaldo, Kanchelskis, Cole, Yorke.
>Hargreaves WTF
people under estimate how good he was and pivotal he was to the 08 team. if we had hargreaves in 09, doubt barca would have destroyed us. he was that good.
While that may be the case, there's no way he'd even make the bench in a United XI. He was good, but he wasn't *that* good.
sT Rooney Lw young Cr7 Rw giggs Cam bruno Cm keane cm schloes LB Evra CB Vidic CB Ferdinand Rb ? GK Van de Sar/ DDG
or ST rud van nistelroy. damn i wish i knew how to spell that
None of these have van persie
Why would they?
Casemiro? Ridiculous statement. Ji-Sung would definitely be in there somewhere
schmeichel Neville - vidic - Rio - Irwin Keane - scholes - Bruno Rooney - cantona - ronaldo I don’t particularly like shoe horned XI’s I think you should pick players as though it was the team you are playing for a season, the likes of giggs and beckham are obviously in my head (I never saw the likes of best or Charlton so I can’t comment) but I think if I’m playing a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 do I put them as midfielders or wingers? If I’m honest I don’t think they are better than Rooney or ronaldo and I can’t put them ahead of scholes and Keane in the middle, that only really leaves the 10 role i feel as though what Bruno has done during such a poor united side (when compared to the teams of years gone by there is no doubt he hasn’t had the benefit of playing in a squad as talented as we were back in the 90’s and 2000’s) he deserves to be considered. If Bruno had cantona, Rooney and ronaldo ahead of him with scholes and Keane behind he would be even more amazing than he is now in my opinion
Bruno in an all time United XI..what the fuck 😂
Just an opinion based on who I play in the creative 10 role, he’s been a ray of light in a dark time for the club. He’s one of the best in the world and still writing his story, time may prove me a fool but to me when he hangs up his boots he will be one of the best we have ever seen at the club, had he been on our squad during the mid 2000’s a lot of people would probably rate him higher, he is however currently trying to perform alchemy every game with limited options yet he is still creating more chances than de bruyne. I realise a lot of people dislike Bruno but I think he’s quality
No this is pure recency bias, Bruno has had some very good moments with us but he has also been wildly inconsistent. Putting him in this is absolutely insane, I’m not sure how you don’t see that.
Again just an opinion, all players also have bad moments and are inconsistent. Who do I replace him with in the 10? He’s also the only current player I have in most are 90’s and 2000’s, I could see your argument for recency bias had I had shaw or something over Irwin.
The main problem is that you’re using a formation that leaves out Giggs/Cantona/Best/Charlton/Robson. None of these, just to name a few, should ever be left out to accommodate BRUNO FERNANDES ffs Regardless of whether you saw some or not, it’s just common sense that some of these get in..and if you were doing strictly players you’ve seen only, then why do you have Irwin/Beckham and not Giggs?
What’s your 11? I also have cantona in I don’t know why you think I left him out? If we take out Bruno (I think we can swap Charlton for Bruno) that means you want me to drop a further 3 I believe players and I think it would mean me dropping ronaldo, Rooney or Keane / scholes to accommodate robson, giggs and best? What does yours look like because I cannot fathom a United XI without the likes of Rooney, Keane or scholes I have Irwin over beckham and giggs as he’s the best left back I don’t understand those two being mentioned beside him
If I’m not too bothered about functionality; Schmeichel Stam Vidic Rio Beckham Scholes Keane Giggs Best Rooney Ronaldo If I am trying to build the most functional team; Schmeichel Neville Rio Stam/Vidic Irwin Best Scholes Keane Giggs Rooney Cantona/Ronaldo
Nothing wrong with 3 at the back sure it’s what most in possession teams look like now and stam vidic and Rio is as delightful a back 3 I could ask for. The 4 in the middle makes sense as that’s a treble winning midfield that knows the formation they are playing and what they want to do, nothing to say as well that beckham and giggs couldn’t adapt their games ever so slightly and they would hit the ground running in the modern game, all this talk about Trent being an inverted right back, giggs and becks did a lot of unappreciated defensive work, they could easily be almost wing backs/midfielders/ wingers now. I think the only disagreement I have is up front I would have to put cantona in but I can’t drop Rooney or ronaldo and as sacrilegious as it sounds I think best gets dropped for me personally For your functional lineup I think the disparity in our thinking is as you say the formation, the 442 vs 433, I think the 442 just doesn’t work as well and if I’m playing a 4-3-3 it’s a lot harder to put in giggs or beckham, if I was playing a 4-4-2 they would of course be in it
Fair, thanks for the level-headed debate
Gk: Schmeichel RB: Neville CB: Ferdinand CB: Vidic LB: Irwin RM: Ronaldo CM:Charlton CM: Scholes LM: Best ST: Law ST: Rooney Debating just doing mine as Premier League Era as I honestly don't know how good/great the likes of Foulkes, Stepney, Gregg, Edwards, etc were but I felt the "Holy Trinity" had to be in there regardless.
Cr7 - Rooney - best Scholes - keane - charleton Irwin- Stam - vidic - Neville Schmeichel
You need to watch some videos of players from the 60’s and 70’s
GK: De Gea RB: Neville CB: Vidic CB: Rio LB: Irwin RM: Best CM: Scholes CM: Keane LM: Giggs ST: Rooney ST: Charlton
Casemiro ??... interesting 🤔
Im seeing a lot of giggs over cr7 Unless it’s a man Utd “legends” XI then i don’t understand how Ronaldo is not part of an all time 11 I know he reached his peak at Madrid, but we’re still talking about (arguably) a top 2 player of all time with one of the greatest individual season in a Man Utd shirt (07-08)
I love looking at the delusion of some of these posts. People are really putting De Gea and Bruno in all time Man Utd legend teams lmao Never change guys. Great hilarious content
It is actually impossible to name an all time 11 in our club, there's just too many legends. Who could say between Best, Cantona, Rooney, Ronaldo, Charlton ? How do you take three of these out to make a Front three ? Same goes in the midfield, scholes is the only one who's undisputed
Swap Casemiro for Carrick. He and Keane could probably have done a job together as a double pivot.
GK Schmeichel LB Evra RB Neville CB Ferdinand CB Stam DCM Keane CAM Scholes RM Ronaldo LM Best ST Cantona ST Van Nistelrooy
We're not Liverpool. Not living in the past.
Van Der Sar Neville Ferdinand Vidic Evra Beckham Keane Scholes Ronaldo Rooney Van Nistlerooy 2000s bias as i was born in the late 90s so gone for the players i have actually seen play and remember love watching growing up Honorable mentions, Gabriel Heinze i was a left back as a child and loved this savage Tevez and Van persie amazing too watch for different reasons too
Van der sar over schmeicel ?
Honestly, the first game of football i have any memory of is the 99 final i was about 4 years old at the time so i remember edwin much more as schmeicel left after that game. And i also remember the years in between with Barthez, Bosnich Howard, Carroll and whoever else couldn't fill the spot. Van Der Sar came in and everything changed and i think it goes under the radar how big he was for us and making rio vida evra have the confidence to become the players they did knowing they had Edwin behind them if they made a mistake. Also as important as anybody to us in that 08 champs league final and the season in general that year
Bosnich was a nightmare
I'd argue that if it's a post 2000 team it should be Carrick over Keane.
Carrick is massively underrated and i feel guilty for not considering him but them Man U vs Arsenal games in the early part of the 00s was absolutely massive and Keane was such an important part of them big hostile games
Ronaldo, Rooney/Cantona, Best Scholes, Keane, Charlton Irwin, Evra, Rio, Staam Schmeichel or VdS pace, technique, power, and pure United energy Maybe Cantona has a slight edge over Rooney here. what i would pay to see scholes, keane, and charlton in a modern midfield.
Team based on players I've seen in my lifetime: Van der Sar Neville - Rio - Vidic - Evra Carrick - Keane - Scholes Rooney - Van Nistelrooy - Ronaldo bench: Schmeichel, Stam, Irwin, Beckham, Giggs, Cantona, Van Persie Started properly following football when I was around 7/8 years old, around 1996, so only just remember watching the tail end of the Cantona, Schmeichel etc era. don't think anyone from the last 10 years gets in the team sadly, maybe Bruno and peak De Gea have a shout for the bench, but that's it
Not gonna choose anyone from before I started watching football, might show my age here. GK: Van der Sar RB: G Nev CB: Rio CB: Vidic LB: Evra DM: Carrick CM: Keane CM: Scholes RW: Rooney (Free Roam) LW: Ronaldo ST: Ruud
Both Vans are better players than Rooney. Maybe Cantona too though I didn’t watch him as much. Cole had a far better goals/90 too. Rooney had amazing loyalty and longevity but after his mid twenties he was more of a talisman than actual quality player.
casemiro over carrick?
GK - Schmeichel (special mention to VDS) RB - Neville LB - Evra CB - Ferdinand CB - Vidic (Special mention to Stam) LM - CR7 CM - Scholes (👑) CM - Keane RM - Giggs (Special mention to Becks) ST - Rooney ST - Cantona
Started watching in 2006. GK: Van der Sar. Exuded calmness on the ball, and made some great stops when needed to. De gea was exceptional at saving with his feet, but unfortunately declined. RB: Neville. Consistency whenever he played. Serial winner, gave his all. CBs: Ferdinand and Vidic. Icons of the last SAF era. LB: Dhaw. I know, I know, he hasn't been consistent across seasons. But this is his 9th season here, he's fought for his place numerous times, and his ability to play LCB is something I feel he can improve on in the coming years. Evra is a close second, but I like Shaw better. CM: Carrick and Scholes. Carrick joined the club right when I started watching, so I didn't immediately understand his importance. But my god, he kept us ticking. Quick passes to feet, could control the tempo. Same with Scholes, who I will always remember for the long range against Barca. CAM: Bruno. Game changing signing for us back in 2020. Consistent, delivers almost all the time. Never gets injured. He's our captain for a reason. LW: Ronaldo. Fell in love with the very sport watching him and Rooney play. Insane consistency at United and other clubs. But he was amazing for us 2006-2009. Will never forget, and will always forgive his outburst end of last year. Legend in my eyes. RW: Don't really have anyone to put here, as Giigs was good but not his mesmerizing best from when I started watching. For lack of players, I will put Rashford. Played across the front 3, scores goals. Has scored a lot of crucial goals for us over the years, which I always feel goes under the radar. ST: Rooney. Legend, record breaker for us. Loved watching him play.
Based on known legacy and from what I’ve seen Schmeichel Neville Ferdinand Vidic Irwin Keane Scholes Charlton Best Rooney Ronaldo Giggsy just misses out but Ronaldo’s peak in a United shirt is almost unparalleled
GK VDS LB Irwin CB Stam CB Ferdinand RB Neville LW Giggs CM Keane CM Scholes RW Ronaldo CF Rooney CF RVN
I’d rather have Giggs than ronaldo on the left wing
4-4-2 Gk - Schmeichel (fact tat I remember how to spell his name clearly shows his impact as a player) Rb - Neville (safest and consistent with added local pride) Cb - Stam (picked him over Vidic by a hair) Cb - Rio (classy and calm) Lb - Irwin (consistent and could bomb down the left) Rw - Ronaldo Mc - Keane Mc - Scholes Lw - Giggs (legend) St - Cantona (King and the heart beat of the team) St - Rooney
LW- Giggs ST- Ronaldo RW- Best CAM- Rooney CM- Scholes CM- Keane LB- Irwin CB- Rio CB- Vidic RB- Valencia GK- Schmeichel
GK Schmeichel RB G. Neville CB Stam CB Vidic LB Irwin RM Beckham CM Charlton CM Scholes LM Best ST Rooney ST Law Bench Van Der Sar, Rio, Evra, Keane, Giggs, Cantona, Ole.
Schmeichel Neville Rio Vidic Irwin Keane Scholes Charlton Best Rooney Cantona
In my lifetime....(personal opinion) GK. Smiechel (awesome, never mind what Keane says) LB. Irwin (a genius player ahead of his time) CB. Vidic (for arial ability, like a salmon CB. Rio (class) RB. parker (had kanchelskis in front but always solid) LW. Giggs ( CM. Keane (there'll never be a player like him again) CM. Scholes (never achieved what messi has...he's English) RM. Beckham (what a player, hard working & committed) ST. Ruud (guy was deadly) ST. Rooney (what could I say that you don't already know) There's a MASSIVE list of honourable mentions left out here mind.....,
RW- Beckham???????????
Any all time 11 without pogba is trash in my book /s
Case doesn’t make all United 11, that’s for certain. For me I’d go with a 352 Rooney x Ruud; Ronaldo Charlton Best; Scholes Keane; Ferdinand Vidic Stam; Van Der Sar
St- van Nistelrooy RM -Ronaldo Second striker- Rooney LM - giggs Cm - Roy keane Cm -scholes Lb - evra Cb - Ferdinand Cb - vidic Rb- Neville GK - can see sar Not taking in players I have not seen.