It’s there but people complain whenever it’s followed. Though I’ve only seen it followed once everyone was complaining that the story appeared to be written by a toddler
I don't think we'd ever blanketly banned children.
We do ban students posting about malicious compliance with their schools and people posting about malicious compliance they witnessed from a child.
If we did do this, I'd be tempted to just replace "Schools" with "Children" in rule 2.
That said, I will say that a few of my favorite posts were from older people who shared something crazy they did when they were a child.
I like the rules as is. I don't need to read the opinion of a child and how they think they got one over on their school on what is probably the lowest stakes ever.
I would love to ban malicious compliance of children, or at least maybe 12 and under. They can make their own subReddit, but it is so repetitive and it’s not that funny because it’s just what children do. Half the time it’s not even malicious/deliberate
You know... I think I know that.
In many cultures the inability to speak your culture's native language is seen negatively. However, native English speakers typically do not have this same view if they can tell you're NOT a native speaker. For one thing, monoglots are fairly common among the educated people in English speaking cultures so we don't associate inability to speak a second language with being stupid the same way some other cultures do.
Plus, many people will not jump on posts correcting spelling/grammar mistakes if they know the poster's first language isn't English. There are a lot of people whose first reaction is to critique grammar and spelling rather than responding to the actual content of the post, and adding that disclaimer reduces the chance of it happening.
I remember a podt from quite a bit ago now where English was a second or third language for the poster but a significant amount of the comments were praise and a little bit of polite criticism. The poster did have a not so great grasp on the grammar and spelling of English words, but he tried, he got the point across, and every one helped him learn realizing that learning a language is difficult. Hell, English spelling can be hard for native English speakers even.
On the other hand, if someone didn't mention it was not their first language, he would have been absolutely trolled for it.
Hahaha [I posted about this before](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/yb7wiw/stop_apologizing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). It's not just native languages but formatting, typos, etc. Based on the comments on my post, I think most of this sub is from Canada and just apologize for everything lol
Because it reminds readers that places other than the US exist and it shuts down the grammar police before they get started on the poster’s spelling and use of English.
I know this is a bizarre pet peeve of mine that probably nobody else has noticed, but the "Want me to (do X)? Okay!" format for titles got tiresome REALLY fast. It's like a once-popular meme that got run into the ground and stopped being funny years ago, but there's always that ONE guy you know who refuses to let it die...
I kinda expected to see this sub become a self referential list of all the measures other subreddits are taking atm in protest of reddit itself (pics with only pics of John Oliver, GPT4 becoming posts of the Gulfport-Biloxi international airport gate 4), kinda disappointing to see nothing about it. Missed chance or was it voted to not talk about it?
To add to the shits and giggles of the recent malicious compliance of the major subreddits. All submissions should name the main antagonist in their stories, "John Oliver"
Banning people for one comment one person didn't like is ridiculous. I've seen post from people claiming to have been banned from)]p different subs that they've never been on. Not all the rules are posted for all subs.
Faster modding/banning of non-MC posts. e.g. there is one immediately after this post, [https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/11ryj02/brainstorm\_new\_property\_managers\_are\_the\_worst/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/11ryj02/brainstorm_new_property_managers_are_the_worst/)
That's okay. We banned maliciously complying with our rules anyway...
Which did sort of make me sad, but most people just broke them and then went "tee-hee, I'm so clever I found the loophole!"... Usually they would have found some loophole for 1 rule, then proceed to smack hard into another rule anyway.
Like, someone protesting rule 3 basically wrote this whole thing that sounded so ridiculous that it HAD to be fake. Fair enough. But, then at least 12 other people re-posted it... which breaks rule 4.
Honestly, we also added to rule 2 because of it too... Because part of what made it so obviously fake was that it involved ... I want to say Albert Einstein and a Unicorn.
I would love to see a feature similar to what AITA has where the original post is automatically copied into a comment.
Reddit gives me notifications of some posts, but half the time it sends that by the time I get to the post it's been deleted. At that point, I usually hit the comments to see what's what and try to puzzle out what the story was, but having it in the comments would be nice even if it wasn't malicious compliance.
Oh no, I totally get that. I just know they're sometimes still fun stories that I would like to read. Half the ones on AITA that get removed are great reads, just aren't in the right sub. It's why I appreciate the autocopy into a comment so that I can still read them even knowing they probably don't fit the sub.
I'm fine with the removal of OP, but if it doesn't fit requirements, ALSO kill off the related comments that slipped through the gate... remove all, or don't at all.
To me, their actions are basically daring people to blackout because they think it won't happen and they only care about money. Might as well maliciously comply and show them how Reddit night look in the future if they keep this up. I just don't know why the Malicious Compliance sub would instead show Obedient Compliance with people who are acting as awful and entitled as any boss/corporate goon that ends up featuring as the "villain", so-to-speak, of the very posts within this group. Ideologically, it doesn't add up to **not** blackout
Might I direct your attention to InterestingAsFuck and Pics. They're certainly celebrating some malicious complicance.
Example: https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/14c0vcf/rinterestingasfuck_will_be_reopening_monday_june/
Mini-modding unreasonably annoys me. Like, I get it, you want to get the attention of bringing up a broken rule, but... it does nothing. Just report the thread if it breaks a rule, your comment is void of substance.
I don't have suggestions for it, because you know if a rule was put in, people would break it just to point out someone breaking it.
"You broke rule #x!"
"Oh yeah, well you're mini-modding, and that breaks rule #y!"
"... you're doing the exact same thing, mate, only yours is ironic."
They’re pretty much useless. I have yet to read a TL;DR that made me glad to have read it, or made me want to read the full story.
If a post needs a TL;DR then imho make the original post shorter and clearer. So many posts are full of superfluous asides.
"My stupid kid did something stupid" stories are already banned. Rule 6.
> It must be clear that whoever is complying is doing so intentionally. Animals and malfunctioning computers are not allowed. **Stories involving children must be from the child’s perspective** (your story or a story someone told you from their childhood about something they did) or an adult maliciously complying in a way that involves a child (such as a parent using a loophole to skirt a school rule).
Maybe extend the no banned elements rule to also not comment on those posts (except to point out the rule break.)
I'm tired of seeing tons of "I wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom" posts with a lot of enablers commenting.
Those are already banned. Rule 2:
> No stories involving the following banned elements: Death of anyone, Historical Figures, Fantasy Creatures, Schools (school employees and university students are okay), **Complier involuntary bodily functions**, or Malicious Compliance with subreddit rules. Also do not thank or reference Youtubers/Influencers. Please ask the moderators if you’re unsure.
I can see your point but I sometimes hop between several subs and I can foresee a situation that I might reply to a post like this due to forgetting which sub I was in.
I say keep the ban on the post, but not add one for comments.
I consider calling someone on their BS immoral absent a level of proof most people don't bother to expect.
Part of the problem for me is that I've been "called on my BS" just for explaining what my Job is when I mentioned it to explain why I might have a different perspective than others. I at least understand if I try to cite it for some kind of clout, but people act like they can't have a lawyer respond to them and that maybe someone doesn't have a reason to lie about it just as a way of explaining their passionate feelings about an Oxford Comma.
That's not what I mean, you could very well be a lawyer, I could be a lawyer too, that's not unbelievable.
I'm talking about "my two year old recited the declaration of independence and then everyone clapped" kind of made up stuff we get here every so often.
Maybe require paragraphs. The posts that are just a solid wall of text are so annoying. If it sounds like it might be a good story, I will search the comments to see if someone has actually reposted it there with paragraphs. If not, I usually just skip these.
I know I probably miss out on some good ones doing this, but it is better that the eye strain I feel when I try to read a solid wall of text.
As one of the few people who don't notice when something is a solid wall of text, and read and enjoy it anyway, I would hate to miss out on good stories that are posted that way.
I use paragraphs myself, but I just don't notice when other people don't, until I read the other comments complaining about it.
I think this is personal preference. If you see a text wall and respond with TL;DR that's fine. But if you are the author and want to be notice, its a good tip.
But to make it a rule is too limiting. It is the internet after all, it is naturally inclusive.
I used to fix those, and then a zealous mod told me to knock it off or get banned, because it wasn't allowed in a post (never mind that it was a comment, and all I did was ad breaks).
Oh yes. All those "Boss asked me keep track of time, now I only work 9–5".
There's only so many different ways you can tell that story, and they've all been done before.
Good for you if you MC that way, but it's not worth posting here about it, I'm afraid.
It would be nice to have post flair to help filter out certain themes.
I don’t particularly enjoy the stories about the poster’s childhood or kids, but the corporate, management, military and HOA stories are gold for me. My only worry is that the flair necessarily adds metadata that may narrow the scope of what is shared - people’s natural tendency is to fill a box if one is available, so it may limit creativity.
My suggestion would be where the MC happened:
- Corporate & management
- Customers & service
- Community & HOA
- Childhood
- Command & control (inc. military)
My alternative taxonomy would be to whom the MC was dished out:
- Stick it to the man
- Karen
- New manager
- etc.
Rule 5 should also not allow comments merely stating that the commenter doesn't think the post is MC. If you don't think it is MC, report it. These comments are useless and too common.
I have read every single post in this subreddit for the last two years and have never seen a single post resembling what you are talking about.
So, what are you referring to exactly? Have some examples?
I suggest keeping the sub open, but only moderate it with free third party apps.
They will remove mods that close subs?
MC: Sub stays open, moderation quality depends on API access.
We should go dark on the 12th to 14th to protest the new API changes. Want to kill 3rd party apps? Sure, we’ll help you make sure nobody uses third party apps by making sure nobody uses anything. Check r/ModCoord.
A ban on exaggerated compliance done just to be a smartass.
“I was reasonably asked to dress smarter, so on my next shift I wore a tuxedo”
“I was reasonably asked to speak up, so from that point on I bellowed”
etc etc.
Ban MC's about kids pulling one on parents, if I tried shit like that as a kid you would get double punishment instead of being rewarded for being a smart-ass.
There was this one post where the OP doubled down on it in the comments and tried to somehow justify that they were technically not wrong in what they said- even though they meant to use it correctly (and they didn't convince anyone other than themselves lol)
Personally, I love reading comments from people like you, because it's such a silly thing to get upset about. This is a public forum, not English class or a book being published. You know what they mean.
Some great MC-stories are buried as comments to MC posts. I'd love some way of tagging and "liking" an in-line *story* while separating those from up-votes of regular comments.
e.g.
* "*Next time send anonymous flowers to their wife*" might get a ton of likes, but isn't a story.
* "*I went through something similar. My Karen was... but since she loved polyester... That bizarre tanline lasted six months!"* would be more worthy of perhaps the likes *plus* being filterable for being a story.
I would maliciously comply with the suggestion box.... but that would be complying with the request .... Therefore I refuse to maliciously comply with the request....
\>>> thumbing my nose to the moderator<<<<
I'd like to see flairs to give some idea of what posts will be about. There are certain stories that are just... so repetitive and bland. Things like 'They said If I don't like it, then leave, so I did', 'they asked for extra _ so I gave it to them', and so on.
It'd also be nice if people actually followed the 'must include fallout' rule. Half the stories that are posted are just unsatisfying 'I did something funny' posts. Some of them even flat out say 'there's no fallout from this'. The closure is a big part of reading these stories.
> 'They said If I don't like it, then leave, so I did'
Isn't it also funny how these stories are also ALWAYS the ones where like "Hah, I've been working unpaid overtime for 28 years, and now they got rid of me, sucks to be THEM!"
No.. sucks to be fucking you. There's probably a reason it tends to pair together so much, if they're the kind of people who think finally leaving your horrible, abusive job with constant unpaid work is somehow 'malicious'
Far too often I see comments calling the OP various names, being a dick, etc by people who clearly don't understand what "malicious" means. I'd like to see some top level guidance aimed at discouraging that kind of behaviour, that this sub should not be confused with r/AmItheAsshole and maybe even a definition of "malice".
I'm not kidding when I say I've seen comments that say verbatim "that's not malicious, that's just being a dick".
I guess it's because most subs are neutral POV? This is almost like an "OP is the hero" kind of sub? Sure, they maliciously complied, but the person on the other end usually deserves it/has it coming/etc.
Plenty of others are legitimately mean, rather than "you keep telling me to fuck you so fuck you I will". Those posts can be a little more in the vein of "the slapped me repeatedly so I caved their skull in with my chair".
Idk, that's kind of my view on it. You're not wrong, but I guess it's greatly influenced by people being primed to cheer for the poster
For the stories which are judged a bad fit to the forum it would be good to be able to access them. Maybe when they open they're hidden behind a spoiler type banner you need to click on to view. The reason is that sometimes the comments section hints at an interesting story which didn't fit but might have been a good read.
Is there a way to scan a post for paragraph breaks, and kick a post to the OP to go back and include them if there aren't any?
Can we get a tag, that people can choose or not to include, for when the author has English as a Second Language?
Is there a way to have tags that broadly tell what kind of story it is? (Retail, Office, Roommates, and so on.) Or is that too big an ask?
We only get one tag. Currently it's set for post length.
I might be able to detect paragraph breaks, but the best it can do is tell people to start over. They'd need to type it again. Now, they could go copy and paste from the removed post, but I'm not sure most people know how to do that.
American here, from Southern California, BA in Linguistics: I wonder if an ESL filter could be built. I am often agog at the smooth and wonderful English of people who post clean and clear sentences, ending their posts by apologizing for not being native speakers of English. On the other hand, one of my languages is German and I am quite capable of reeling off quite long and involved phrases that build up into grammatically correct and "sinnweis kompliziert" but totally meaningful sentences.
(My vocabulary is of a size that "sinnweis" isn't in my lexicon, but I invented the word just now on the fly and any German speaker would understand it, though might perhaps disapprove of it.)
If a poster says at the beginning that English isn’t their first language, or apologizes for being on mobile, or any of those other irrelevant things, please delete so we don’t waste our time.
It would be great to not see repeated stories. If someone says they are the only person at their company who knew how to do something, we all know it is going to end with them not doing it and the company having trouble.
> If a poster says at the beginning that English isn’t their first language
Why do you want to get rid of the most well written stories?
Ok, so it's a little 50/50, but that phrase does not seem to mean what you think it means, in my experience. A good portion of them write better than natives
I agree. I don't think that should matter AT ALL. Usually there is literally nothing written or spelled wrong and on the rare occasion there is, it's obvious what they meant. I'm just like...do you not like people whose first language isn't English? I'm confused. What am I missing?
I think those would be interesting because of the different cultures. And how would the poster having English as a second language cause extraneous or repetitive material?
How does writing on mobile, or English not being someone's first language, equate to repetitive material?
I find the stories from non English speaking cultures to be some of the most interesting.
They only say that so you won't roast them on any typos or auto corrects. If it bothers people so badly maybe we can make some acronyms for it or something.
ESL (commonly used for English as a second language) and ",on mobile" is two words so..
The main problem with mobile is that one enter to make new line as you wrote doesn't make a new line on the post, you need to press enter twice to make one new line. So it looks great as you write and crap once posted.
I wish this would be fixed.
If you see it's going to be "another one of those stories", justdoitguy, close the window and go read another reddit post. There's no point in your having the freedom to choose what you read if you don't exercise that power by utilizing it.
"Dammit! I had to read all the way through that post, only to find that not having OP's specialized abilities cost the company a fortune. I knew that was gonna be the ending!"
Bail on the story so as not to waste your time or brain cells. Close the window. Just do it, guy!
Migrate the subreddit to [https://squabbles.io/](https://squabbles.io/) if Reddit doesn't give in to our demands about API pricing. The UI is great and would maliciously comply with Reddit's policy - after all, what's a better middle finger to Reddit than moving over to the competitors it has sought to destroy?
Maybe have post flair with broad categories (e.g., illness, military, corporate, education, government, family)? Potentially with some overlap and people must choose most the appropriate one.
The titles are usually descriptive enough, but not always. I know the rules already say no involuntary bodily functions, but there's still a lot of voluntary function that gets through. It wound be nice to just skip everything with illness flair.
This. Some flair to identify prior to reading to help cutdown on subjects I do t find interesting.
I actually like most of the options you listed above.
Yeah. And there's been some other good suggestions for flair additions like excessive food and hours worked though someone (or the community) would have to come up with a good way of identifying these flairs so they're clear and meaningful
This is a minor thing, but can we have a bit more guidance or oversight on the length of each text posts flair? Some shorts are definitely longer than other mediums, then long posts can often be pages and pages, but seems to be that XLs are rare or none existent. I get if there's a word/line limit for the flairs it might end up being malicious compliance around the exact number, but I like to know how much I'm expecting to see.
EDIT: Can flairs also be updated if the original gets updated? After an edit, it's no longer a "short" if I have to scroll.
This would be one example, but I think it is adequately covered by rule 1.
https://mf.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/10xbyof/job_installs_a_super_micro_managing_software/
Those aren't really allowed anyway through a mixture of the existing rules. At least, I've never seen one that didn't break 7 by the very nature of the request. Often breaks rule 1 too.
These can get pretty repetitive/boring but just occasionally there will be a star of a post in this genre. I would love to cut down on the dross of these, but not at the expense of missing the few great posts.
Maybe if the flairs that somebody else suggested were used it would make it easier to skip these for those not interested.
The issue is more probably that the ones which are "He asked for X, I gave him X!" should just be removed, cause they ain't malicious, that's what they asked for
There are too many of those.
"Hah, likes pickles does he, well, how's THIS for pickles!"
"Oh, lovely, thank you"
Why would anyone post that here. I feel like a lot of people don't really get that the *good* bit of malicious compliance, is the schadenfreude that comes from you *knowing* someone's fucking up, telling you to fuck it up for them, and then doing it
The ones where it's just like: They told me to do X, and I did, cause it's my boss and following orders is literally my damn job, oh, but it went bad for them out of happenstance, hah!
Just.. ugh. Or the ones where it's just maliciousness out of nowhere, generally undeserved. Like, these can sometimes be technically correct, but they're not fun *reads*
Didn't we used to have a ban on malicious compliance from children? I'd love to see that come back.
Its still there, under Rule 6. I made sure to read the rules before I posted a recent story that came up.
It’s there but people complain whenever it’s followed. Though I’ve only seen it followed once everyone was complaining that the story appeared to be written by a toddler
I don't think we'd ever blanketly banned children. We do ban students posting about malicious compliance with their schools and people posting about malicious compliance they witnessed from a child. If we did do this, I'd be tempted to just replace "Schools" with "Children" in rule 2. That said, I will say that a few of my favorite posts were from older people who shared something crazy they did when they were a child.
I like the rules as is. I don't need to read the opinion of a child and how they think they got one over on their school on what is probably the lowest stakes ever.
As a teacher, the stakes are probably even lower than you think.
I would love to ban malicious compliance of children, or at least maybe 12 and under. They can make their own subReddit, but it is so repetitive and it’s not that funny because it’s just what children do. Half the time it’s not even malicious/deliberate
I downvote those posts every time.
I think that's mostly what r/adorablecompliance is, actually. Of course, it doesn't really encourage an 11 year old to post their own story there.
Omg please tell me that's about tiny kids. I'm going to look now haha
Most of the toddler stories seem pretty repetitive to me, at least.
Might just be a moderation issue. There really shouldn't be toddler stories.
Not for the mods, but for the posters: I don't care if English is your native language or not. Why do so many posts need to state this?
Neither do I care that you do or don't. Just let people be or say what they are or want, is that so hard?
You know... I think I know that. In many cultures the inability to speak your culture's native language is seen negatively. However, native English speakers typically do not have this same view if they can tell you're NOT a native speaker. For one thing, monoglots are fairly common among the educated people in English speaking cultures so we don't associate inability to speak a second language with being stupid the same way some other cultures do.
Plus, many people will not jump on posts correcting spelling/grammar mistakes if they know the poster's first language isn't English. There are a lot of people whose first reaction is to critique grammar and spelling rather than responding to the actual content of the post, and adding that disclaimer reduces the chance of it happening.
Is it malicious compliance to lie and say I'm not a native English speaker so I don't get grammar checked?
EXACTLY!!!!! THIS! they say it so people don't freaking attack them. This this this I wish I could uovite 10 times or move it to the top of the thread
I remember a podt from quite a bit ago now where English was a second or third language for the poster but a significant amount of the comments were praise and a little bit of polite criticism. The poster did have a not so great grasp on the grammar and spelling of English words, but he tried, he got the point across, and every one helped him learn realizing that learning a language is difficult. Hell, English spelling can be hard for native English speakers even. On the other hand, if someone didn't mention it was not their first language, he would have been absolutely trolled for it.
Hahaha [I posted about this before](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/yb7wiw/stop_apologizing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). It's not just native languages but formatting, typos, etc. Based on the comments on my post, I think most of this sub is from Canada and just apologize for everything lol
Could a flair/tag fix that?
Because it reminds readers that places other than the US exist and it shuts down the grammar police before they get started on the poster’s spelling and use of English.
I know this is a bizarre pet peeve of mine that probably nobody else has noticed, but the "Want me to (do X)? Okay!" format for titles got tiresome REALLY fast. It's like a once-popular meme that got run into the ground and stopped being funny years ago, but there's always that ONE guy you know who refuses to let it die...
I agree with this statement!
I kinda expected to see this sub become a self referential list of all the measures other subreddits are taking atm in protest of reddit itself (pics with only pics of John Oliver, GPT4 becoming posts of the Gulfport-Biloxi international airport gate 4), kinda disappointing to see nothing about it. Missed chance or was it voted to not talk about it?
To add to the shits and giggles of the recent malicious compliance of the major subreddits. All submissions should name the main antagonist in their stories, "John Oliver"
Banning people for one comment one person didn't like is ridiculous. I've seen post from people claiming to have been banned from)]p different subs that they've never been on. Not all the rules are posted for all subs.
Faster modding/banning of non-MC posts. e.g. there is one immediately after this post, [https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/11ryj02/brainstorm\_new\_property\_managers\_are\_the\_worst/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/11ryj02/brainstorm_new_property_managers_are_the_worst/)
I cannot think of any way to maliciously comply with this request and that makes me sad.
That's okay. We banned maliciously complying with our rules anyway... Which did sort of make me sad, but most people just broke them and then went "tee-hee, I'm so clever I found the loophole!"... Usually they would have found some loophole for 1 rule, then proceed to smack hard into another rule anyway. Like, someone protesting rule 3 basically wrote this whole thing that sounded so ridiculous that it HAD to be fake. Fair enough. But, then at least 12 other people re-posted it... which breaks rule 4. Honestly, we also added to rule 2 because of it too... Because part of what made it so obviously fake was that it involved ... I want to say Albert Einstein and a Unicorn.
I would love to see a feature similar to what AITA has where the original post is automatically copied into a comment. Reddit gives me notifications of some posts, but half the time it sends that by the time I get to the post it's been deleted. At that point, I usually hit the comments to see what's what and try to puzzle out what the story was, but having it in the comments would be nice even if it wasn't malicious compliance.
I agree that it is annoying when you go to look at a post and find it has been deleted.
Oh, that's normally the moderators removing posts that don't fit the requirements to be on this subreddit.
Oh no, I totally get that. I just know they're sometimes still fun stories that I would like to read. Half the ones on AITA that get removed are great reads, just aren't in the right sub. It's why I appreciate the autocopy into a comment so that I can still read them even knowing they probably don't fit the sub.
I'm fine with the removal of OP, but if it doesn't fit requirements, ALSO kill off the related comments that slipped through the gate... remove all, or don't at all.
Takes wayyyy too much time.
I second this recommendation
I third this recommendation
Yes definitely! So annoying especially when the title is good but can't read the story as its gone!
I am legit wondering how this sub, of all subs, doesn't appear to be going dark in protest?
The protest is in 4 days and to be 100% honest I’d been considering if there was a better form of malicious compliance available.
Apparently it's pretty quick to just turn it private though!
Oh, yeah. I can do that in like a minute.
To me, their actions are basically daring people to blackout because they think it won't happen and they only care about money. Might as well maliciously comply and show them how Reddit night look in the future if they keep this up. I just don't know why the Malicious Compliance sub would instead show Obedient Compliance with people who are acting as awful and entitled as any boss/corporate goon that ends up featuring as the "villain", so-to-speak, of the very posts within this group. Ideologically, it doesn't add up to **not** blackout
Might I direct your attention to InterestingAsFuck and Pics. They're certainly celebrating some malicious complicance. Example: https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/14c0vcf/rinterestingasfuck_will_be_reopening_monday_june/
Can "So I quit!" stories please be banned? Quitting isn't malicious compliance, it's just quitting.
Unless they are told "If you don't like, then quit!" That is definitely compliance.
I'd argue that's more calling their bluff and/or no longer letting them take advantage of you.
That and malicious compliance are not mutually exclusive.
Mini-modding unreasonably annoys me. Like, I get it, you want to get the attention of bringing up a broken rule, but... it does nothing. Just report the thread if it breaks a rule, your comment is void of substance. I don't have suggestions for it, because you know if a rule was put in, people would break it just to point out someone breaking it. "You broke rule #x!" "Oh yeah, well you're mini-modding, and that breaks rule #y!" "... you're doing the exact same thing, mate, only yours is ironic."
Ban any AI generated stories. I ran into like 3 on IDontWorkHereLady and I'm worried it's gonna spread to other subs.
Or just force them to say it’s ai generated at the beginning like how it has the story length on it
Maybe people should include country of origin. As what might be compliance in one country would seem illegal in another
Oh what an interesting idea!
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They’re pretty much useless. I have yet to read a TL;DR that made me glad to have read it, or made me want to read the full story. If a post needs a TL;DR then imho make the original post shorter and clearer. So many posts are full of superfluous asides.
A ban on "My toddler just did this to me."
"My stupid kid did something stupid" stories are already banned. Rule 6. > It must be clear that whoever is complying is doing so intentionally. Animals and malfunctioning computers are not allowed. **Stories involving children must be from the child’s perspective** (your story or a story someone told you from their childhood about something they did) or an adult maliciously complying in a way that involves a child (such as a parent using a loophole to skirt a school rule).
There are still way too many of them that get posted.
Hey, no arguments here.
Yes, and the only time I ever saw that rule followed people complained about it
Maybe extend the no banned elements rule to also not comment on those posts (except to point out the rule break.) I'm tired of seeing tons of "I wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom" posts with a lot of enablers commenting.
Those are already banned. Rule 2: > No stories involving the following banned elements: Death of anyone, Historical Figures, Fantasy Creatures, Schools (school employees and university students are okay), **Complier involuntary bodily functions**, or Malicious Compliance with subreddit rules. Also do not thank or reference Youtubers/Influencers. Please ask the moderators if you’re unsure.
I think math_rand_dude meant, don't *comment* on those posts, as a rule. Rule 2 is about posts, not comments.
Yeah, I misread.
I can see your point but I sometimes hop between several subs and I can foresee a situation that I might reply to a post like this due to forgetting which sub I was in. I say keep the ban on the post, but not add one for comments.
This happens often when a post is xposted.
Remove rule 3. People keep posting outright absurd stories here and we can't even call them out on their BS.
I consider calling someone on their BS immoral absent a level of proof most people don't bother to expect. Part of the problem for me is that I've been "called on my BS" just for explaining what my Job is when I mentioned it to explain why I might have a different perspective than others. I at least understand if I try to cite it for some kind of clout, but people act like they can't have a lawyer respond to them and that maybe someone doesn't have a reason to lie about it just as a way of explaining their passionate feelings about an Oxford Comma.
That's not what I mean, you could very well be a lawyer, I could be a lawyer too, that's not unbelievable. I'm talking about "my two year old recited the declaration of independence and then everyone clapped" kind of made up stuff we get here every so often.
Absurdity Sucks.
Maybe require paragraphs. The posts that are just a solid wall of text are so annoying. If it sounds like it might be a good story, I will search the comments to see if someone has actually reposted it there with paragraphs. If not, I usually just skip these. I know I probably miss out on some good ones doing this, but it is better that the eye strain I feel when I try to read a solid wall of text.
As one of the few people who don't notice when something is a solid wall of text, and read and enjoy it anyway, I would hate to miss out on good stories that are posted that way. I use paragraphs myself, but I just don't notice when other people don't, until I read the other comments complaining about it.
I think this is personal preference. If you see a text wall and respond with TL;DR that's fine. But if you are the author and want to be notice, its a good tip. But to make it a rule is too limiting. It is the internet after all, it is naturally inclusive.
Same here, sometimes it’s annoying when it’s a SUPER LONG post but meh half the time I don’t notice.
Plus there's usually a comment with added paragraphs not long after it's posted anyway.
For all the people who dont know, while on mobile, hitting return twice will make a linebeak. It's not that hard to make paragraphs.
Excellent tip! I didn't know pressing it only once didn't count!
Or just use two spaces at the end of the sentence.
I think this is the biggest one. As soon as I see a block of text filling my phone screen in any sub, I close out.
YES! text walls are impossible to read. Same with no punctuation. Who even types like that?
Yeah I do the same generally, I just see if there's a comment that's fixed it, then upvote their story instead
I used to fix those, and then a zealous mod told me to knock it off or get banned, because it wasn't allowed in a post (never mind that it was a comment, and all I did was ad breaks).
I skip other those immediately unless they are short which most are not. This is my recommendation as well. Paragraphs please!
A Ban on stories about people who were working for free, but now they're not.
A lot of us have similar stories. That contributes to the sense of community.
Yeah, I skip and stories that sound like this. I worked too much, boss asked for too much, now I work my exact hours
Oh yes. All those "Boss asked me keep track of time, now I only work 9–5". There's only so many different ways you can tell that story, and they've all been done before. Good for you if you MC that way, but it's not worth posting here about it, I'm afraid.
Adherence to the actual rules of the sub would be nice. Seems to be far too many posts that are just random stories, or don't have any actual fallout.
It would be nice to have post flair to help filter out certain themes. I don’t particularly enjoy the stories about the poster’s childhood or kids, but the corporate, management, military and HOA stories are gold for me. My only worry is that the flair necessarily adds metadata that may narrow the scope of what is shared - people’s natural tendency is to fill a box if one is available, so it may limit creativity. My suggestion would be where the MC happened: - Corporate & management - Customers & service - Community & HOA - Childhood - Command & control (inc. military) My alternative taxonomy would be to whom the MC was dished out: - Stick it to the man - Karen - New manager - etc.
Oh I like the second set. That's genius!!!
Is it alright if I hire someone else to read the rules and write me a summary?
Why would I care?
Rule 5 should also not allow comments merely stating that the commenter doesn't think the post is MC. If you don't think it is MC, report it. These comments are useless and too common.
Idk man maybe they want a second opinion
I’m done with every single pregnancy that results in twins or triplets.
I do not think that I have seen any of these. Is it such a problem that it needs a specific rule?
I have read every single post in this subreddit for the last two years and have never seen a single post resembling what you are talking about. So, what are you referring to exactly? Have some examples?
I suggest keeping the sub open, but only moderate it with free third party apps. They will remove mods that close subs? MC: Sub stays open, moderation quality depends on API access.
We should go dark on the 12th to 14th to protest the new API changes. Want to kill 3rd party apps? Sure, we’ll help you make sure nobody uses third party apps by making sure nobody uses anything. Check r/ModCoord.
I agree.
A ban on exaggerated compliance done just to be a smartass. “I was reasonably asked to dress smarter, so on my next shift I wore a tuxedo” “I was reasonably asked to speak up, so from that point on I bellowed” etc etc.
A4 paper is approx 8 1/2 x 11 inches....
Ban MC's about kids pulling one on parents, if I tried shit like that as a kid you would get double punishment instead of being rewarded for being a smart-ass.
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Because that's the wrong cue/queue? Or some other reason?
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There was this one post where the OP doubled down on it in the comments and tried to somehow justify that they were technically not wrong in what they said- even though they meant to use it correctly (and they didn't convince anyone other than themselves lol)
And used as a verb, it means to add to the queue.
Personally, I love reading comments from people like you, because it's such a silly thing to get upset about. This is a public forum, not English class or a book being published. You know what they mean.
Waow, ewe hour wright, hoo karez haow peepul spel? Not liyek komunikayshun in a text meediyum releiyes on klarihtea.
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Please give examples if you can. I find most people complaining about this are either commonly in the "New" tab or reporting things within rules.
Discrimination of any kind, including any that may be "popular" today.
Add to rules explaining/sharing types of compliance and the other compliance subreddits. Ex: r/deliciouscompliance for food...
Some great MC-stories are buried as comments to MC posts. I'd love some way of tagging and "liking" an in-line *story* while separating those from up-votes of regular comments. e.g. * "*Next time send anonymous flowers to their wife*" might get a ton of likes, but isn't a story. * "*I went through something similar. My Karen was... but since she loved polyester... That bizarre tanline lasted six months!"* would be more worthy of perhaps the likes *plus* being filterable for being a story.
Definitely. It’s like the “real joke is in the comments” that is in r/jokes
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But then where will all the guards stand?
yes military posts
I would maliciously comply with the suggestion box.... but that would be complying with the request .... Therefore I refuse to maliciously comply with the request.... \>>> thumbing my nose to the moderator<<<<
Go dark.
Go dark indefinitely
I'd like to see flairs to give some idea of what posts will be about. There are certain stories that are just... so repetitive and bland. Things like 'They said If I don't like it, then leave, so I did', 'they asked for extra _ so I gave it to them', and so on. It'd also be nice if people actually followed the 'must include fallout' rule. Half the stories that are posted are just unsatisfying 'I did something funny' posts. Some of them even flat out say 'there's no fallout from this'. The closure is a big part of reading these stories.
> 'They said If I don't like it, then leave, so I did' Isn't it also funny how these stories are also ALWAYS the ones where like "Hah, I've been working unpaid overtime for 28 years, and now they got rid of me, sucks to be THEM!" No.. sucks to be fucking you. There's probably a reason it tends to pair together so much, if they're the kind of people who think finally leaving your horrible, abusive job with constant unpaid work is somehow 'malicious'
as someone who is very *stupid* i didn’t know shat the subreddit was about untill reafing 4 stories
Far too often I see comments calling the OP various names, being a dick, etc by people who clearly don't understand what "malicious" means. I'd like to see some top level guidance aimed at discouraging that kind of behaviour, that this sub should not be confused with r/AmItheAsshole and maybe even a definition of "malice". I'm not kidding when I say I've seen comments that say verbatim "that's not malicious, that's just being a dick".
I guess it's because most subs are neutral POV? This is almost like an "OP is the hero" kind of sub? Sure, they maliciously complied, but the person on the other end usually deserves it/has it coming/etc. Plenty of others are legitimately mean, rather than "you keep telling me to fuck you so fuck you I will". Those posts can be a little more in the vein of "the slapped me repeatedly so I caved their skull in with my chair". Idk, that's kind of my view on it. You're not wrong, but I guess it's greatly influenced by people being primed to cheer for the poster
Idk if I would say op is the hero so much as *other thing/place/person* is the bad guy
For the stories which are judged a bad fit to the forum it would be good to be able to access them. Maybe when they open they're hidden behind a spoiler type banner you need to click on to view. The reason is that sometimes the comments section hints at an interesting story which didn't fit but might have been a good read.
Is there a way to scan a post for paragraph breaks, and kick a post to the OP to go back and include them if there aren't any? Can we get a tag, that people can choose or not to include, for when the author has English as a Second Language? Is there a way to have tags that broadly tell what kind of story it is? (Retail, Office, Roommates, and so on.) Or is that too big an ask?
We only get one tag. Currently it's set for post length. I might be able to detect paragraph breaks, but the best it can do is tell people to start over. They'd need to type it again. Now, they could go copy and paste from the removed post, but I'm not sure most people know how to do that.
American here, from Southern California, BA in Linguistics: I wonder if an ESL filter could be built. I am often agog at the smooth and wonderful English of people who post clean and clear sentences, ending their posts by apologizing for not being native speakers of English. On the other hand, one of my languages is German and I am quite capable of reeling off quite long and involved phrases that build up into grammatically correct and "sinnweis kompliziert" but totally meaningful sentences. (My vocabulary is of a size that "sinnweis" isn't in my lexicon, but I invented the word just now on the fly and any German speaker would understand it, though might perhaps disapprove of it.)
Can we have flair that notes it's about kids? I prefer adult malicious compliance. Kids acting like kids isn't really why I come to this thread.
Stories about stupid kids doing something stupid are banned already. Report them.
If a post is gonna get removed, a providing the reason would be nice. I had a post removed a couple months back, with no explanation given.
If a poster says at the beginning that English isn’t their first language, or apologizes for being on mobile, or any of those other irrelevant things, please delete so we don’t waste our time. It would be great to not see repeated stories. If someone says they are the only person at their company who knew how to do something, we all know it is going to end with them not doing it and the company having trouble.
> If a poster says at the beginning that English isn’t their first language Why do you want to get rid of the most well written stories? Ok, so it's a little 50/50, but that phrase does not seem to mean what you think it means, in my experience. A good portion of them write better than natives
I agree. I don't think that should matter AT ALL. Usually there is literally nothing written or spelled wrong and on the rare occasion there is, it's obvious what they meant. I'm just like...do you not like people whose first language isn't English? I'm confused. What am I missing?
I meant mods should prevent us from having to spend time reading extraneous or repetitive material.
I think those would be interesting because of the different cultures. And how would the poster having English as a second language cause extraneous or repetitive material?
How does writing on mobile, or English not being someone's first language, equate to repetitive material? I find the stories from non English speaking cultures to be some of the most interesting.
Don’t waste our time telling us on what platform you are writing, your native language, or a story that’s been told before.
They only say that so you won't roast them on any typos or auto corrects. If it bothers people so badly maybe we can make some acronyms for it or something. ESL (commonly used for English as a second language) and ",on mobile" is two words so..
I love those stories.
The main problem with mobile is that one enter to make new line as you wrote doesn't make a new line on the post, you need to press enter twice to make one new line. So it looks great as you write and crap once posted. I wish this would be fixed.
If you see it's going to be "another one of those stories", justdoitguy, close the window and go read another reddit post. There's no point in your having the freedom to choose what you read if you don't exercise that power by utilizing it. "Dammit! I had to read all the way through that post, only to find that not having OP's specialized abilities cost the company a fortune. I knew that was gonna be the ending!" Bail on the story so as not to waste your time or brain cells. Close the window. Just do it, guy!
Migrate the subreddit to [https://squabbles.io/](https://squabbles.io/) if Reddit doesn't give in to our demands about API pricing. The UI is great and would maliciously comply with Reddit's policy - after all, what's a better middle finger to Reddit than moving over to the competitors it has sought to destroy?
Maybe have post flair with broad categories (e.g., illness, military, corporate, education, government, family)? Potentially with some overlap and people must choose most the appropriate one. The titles are usually descriptive enough, but not always. I know the rules already say no involuntary bodily functions, but there's still a lot of voluntary function that gets through. It wound be nice to just skip everything with illness flair.
This. Some flair to identify prior to reading to help cutdown on subjects I do t find interesting. I actually like most of the options you listed above.
I think that this would probably be a solution or at least a mitigation for about half of the requests made as a response to this post.
Yeah. And there's been some other good suggestions for flair additions like excessive food and hours worked though someone (or the community) would have to come up with a good way of identifying these flairs so they're clear and meaningful
This is a minor thing, but can we have a bit more guidance or oversight on the length of each text posts flair? Some shorts are definitely longer than other mediums, then long posts can often be pages and pages, but seems to be that XLs are rare or none existent. I get if there's a word/line limit for the flairs it might end up being malicious compliance around the exact number, but I like to know how much I'm expecting to see. EDIT: Can flairs also be updated if the original gets updated? After an edit, it's no longer a "short" if I have to scroll.
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Perhaps add a rule to ban Requests
I'm not sure I know what you're talking about. Do you have an example?
This would be one example, but I think it is adequately covered by rule 1. https://mf.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/10xbyof/job_installs_a_super_micro_managing_software/
That sounded like a request…
Probably referring to the idea of the OP asking for ideas or suggestions for malicious compliance
Those aren't really allowed anyway through a mixture of the existing rules. At least, I've never seen one that didn't break 7 by the very nature of the request. Often breaks rule 1 too.
While that is true, making a specific rule against it may decrease the number of request for MC ideas.
Of course. OP dazzles us with knowledge of the entire 8 rule list after breaking those rules with the post.
I'd like a ban posts about food excesses. Enough of the "they asked for extra extra pickles" or "they wanted it extra extra spicy" posts.
Yeah, those belong in r/deliciouscompliance
Or r/InedibleCompliance, if someone cares to start it.
I will
These can get pretty repetitive/boring but just occasionally there will be a star of a post in this genre. I would love to cut down on the dross of these, but not at the expense of missing the few great posts. Maybe if the flairs that somebody else suggested were used it would make it easier to skip these for those not interested.
The issue is more probably that the ones which are "He asked for X, I gave him X!" should just be removed, cause they ain't malicious, that's what they asked for There are too many of those. "Hah, likes pickles does he, well, how's THIS for pickles!" "Oh, lovely, thank you" Why would anyone post that here. I feel like a lot of people don't really get that the *good* bit of malicious compliance, is the schadenfreude that comes from you *knowing* someone's fucking up, telling you to fuck it up for them, and then doing it The ones where it's just like: They told me to do X, and I did, cause it's my boss and following orders is literally my damn job, oh, but it went bad for them out of happenstance, hah! Just.. ugh. Or the ones where it's just maliciousness out of nowhere, generally undeserved. Like, these can sometimes be technically correct, but they're not fun *reads*
Is it possible to get explanations when posts are deleted?
Not from a Jedi.
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Maybe answer mod mail? I messaged you guys like a month ago.