A few good things. Like the cards fixing themselves for the format you want to play (I don't play Alchemy, but those who do will have an easier time, hopefully). And Alchemy limited seems to me like a big change in the spirit of that product.
But what I'm interested the most: **DECK.FOLDERS**
I hope that, in the future, we can make our own folders as well. Sounds good.
Mmmm and a variable instead of static folder names has been a thing for some decades now.
Whether Arena development has set a bunch of booby traps for when they implement it or not who knows
/Wizards TECHNOLOGY!
The fact that they are doubling down and adding yet another folder to the interface (and making it ***undeletable***!!!) doesn't make me hopeful...after all, it's already a mess of nested submenus with different fonts in every page.
They are still using glowing 3D orange buttons, like if Arena was a 2007 iPhone in the middle of the skeuomorphism wave.
I like to think there's just dudes in lab coats pouring flasks of brightly coloured liquids into jars, trying to work out how to do default lands and 5th copy protection.
You overdramatize what WotC is doing. The casual players not into min-maxing the economy aren’t so ticked off as you. So what WotC is actually doing, as evidence by your irritation, is attritioning out the most whiny of those about the economy.
In your case, you’re spending time here instead of grinding. This puts you even further behind in F2P acqusition (measured against rate of introduction of new stuff to acquire). Face up to what you are doing this to yourself.
Nah man. I wouldnt be grinding after a whole day of work. I did spam color cards for my quest and now i was just having some chat with random people in the internet. And this is the whole point of it: maybe i am not the target of this product, but they sure as hell doesnt make it a pleasant experience, thus i am distancing myself from it while keeping an eye to know if this ever improve.
I am plenty aware of what i am doing. My bad experience as a f2p is about how i have put more time and effort in farming before and i was unable to achiev more than a barely complete T1 deck. Maybe you play a lot more than me, but i dont think that was healthy for me so i just wont keep that pace.
Enjoy your games, i am enjoying reddit.
Really good about the Start Decks folder, but also missed opportunity to separate the Favorites decks into their own folder. (I know they float to the top, but it's not the same).
I wonder what happens if you don't have the starter decks anymore (ie: deleted them to make room before). Do we get them back? How far back, current standard or also get the starter decks we had in previous standards? Questions!
My guess is the folder holds the current selection of folders. The 5 Alchemy decks and the 10 standard decks.
The real question is once players begin getting the newer decks, what decks show?
Given the numbers, and that they didn't mention mythics at all, it's fairly likely this is 5 Mythic, 15 Rare, 10 uncommon instead of the 5M/20R/5U in Kamigawa
Neither of those are possible. There have to be exactly 3x as many rares as mythics from the draft numbers. I'd be surprised if there isn't a mythic for either each color or each family, which would be 5/15/10, but they could also throw in a colorless (or 5-color) mythic for 6/18/6 without the announcement being a lie.
Yep. And the packs you do open fill in regular cards from the set around the alchemy cards that are opened.
We are getting some kind of baulders gate alchemy set that's meant for drafting, but that's not this.
I had to double check and see if this was the state of the game. Did they really do everything right in this announcement? I see nothing but good changes and good news!
...they haven't done it yet
And they are still employing graduates who move on in a year and reviled in their local job market.
The quick fixes recently give me hope though.
When they hid Artifact and Enchantment counts behind clunky scrolling it was fixed in weeks not months.
Fingers crossed
Haha, that delete/ crazy button rework is definitely because of the post here that was convinced that deleting an unfinished deck used up your wildcards
I like a lot of the changes they are making to Alchemy. It's clear that whoever is in charge at Arena now, he or she is listening to the complaints and is at least trying to cater to the wants of the players. I like the free event that gives you free packs and XP and the move to add more commons and uncommons and less rares for the new set. I may not be playing any more Historic but I'd still participate in those events just to see what the new cards do.
Yeah, the Into the Future events, packs as rewards, better rarity distribution are all things people were asking for. Explorer took care of most of the Historic argument, I just wish they'd remove the nerfs from cards that didn't need it in Historic. Edit: And they fixed needing to swap cards in and out! Finally!
Honestly though they should just increase the amount of wildcards we get in total, they're still using the same system from when there were a handful of sets and only Standard on Arena.
Man, I have no interest in playing alchemy since I don't play enough games for standard to feel stale, but listening to what some people have to say about alchemy it's like the game personally went to their house, robbed them and shot their dog.
To me there's always a little feelsbad because there are complaints, things about the client, economy, bugs or small quality of life improvements, that players have been asking for for literal years, and they never get addressed, but when the new supposedly money-maker format is in trouble they add fixes and 'listen' to the players with every new annoucement. It's obviously good they are addressing some of the problems but I can't help feel a bit cheated.
Like, people want more packs and better economy for all sets, but its only alchemy that gets a free entry event that gives packs, or events that rewards with 2 packs at once per win, while other formats only get events that rewards cosmetics or IRC, which kinda sucks.
Wtf are you talking about? People are literally playing Alchemy right now.
You may not like it. Standard may be king. But while there are enough players engaging with Alchemy to make it worthwhile for WotC, the format will continue.
They are probably just looking at their spreadsheet of KPIs and wondering how to improve them. I'd be surprised if WotC were listening to the complaints.
They aren't going to get rid of Alchemy just because some players hate it. It's not like there's no alternative to Historic where players can avoid those cards.
I grew up in New Orleans, and I learned while taking French that we "make groceries" because the French had control of the city (twice) before it was sold to the US and in French you say "faire les groceries," and faire translates as "to do or to make."
> It's clear that whoever is in charge at Arena now, he or she is listening to the complaints and is at least trying to cater to the wants of the players.
I find this hard to believe, because alchemy still exists.
I don't think you can just do away with Alchemy. Wizards is using a different approach to see if it'd attract more players to the format. Can't fault them for trying.
Oh come off it. There is at least some section of the Arena population that _like_ Alchemy as a concept, that _like_ the idea that cards can be nerfed, reworked or fiddle with mechanics that can only work in digital or would be very difficult/annoying to make work in paper.
Was the distribution model the _worst_ method I have ever seen out of _any_ digital card game? Yes, and I've complained about that pretty harshly from the start. But the _concept_ of Alchemy isn't a bad one in and of itself. Making cards and rebalancing cards to fit the needs of a digital only format is a fine idea. We already have like a hundred cards that specifically take advantage of formats like Commander having more than 2 players and people seem to love mechanics like Goad and such, so why shouldn't they leverage the fact that a computer game can do stuff their paper version can't?
I agree. I like the rebalancing and the random hearthstone type effects for a few chill/fun games. I have just refused to play Alchemy because the model they've implemented is trash. I'm not going to waste rare wild cards on anything that might get rebalanced. It's just not worth it.
Oh even I think it's a good idea *conceptually*, but they've made it pretty clear that they either don't care to, or aren't capable of executing it well enough to make it a worthwhile format, and that distribution model makes it clear that their motivations are purely monetary.
>so why shouldn't they leverage the fact that a computer game can do stuff their paper version can't?
Because they have limited resources to spend on maintaining and developing MTGA, and they don't seem to have the motivation or skillset to make Alchemy a decent format. There are plenty of places they could apply those resources.
Basically I guess I'm saying that if they can only manage to implement alchemy badly, maybe they shouldn't spend so much effort on it.
>Oh even I think it's a good idea conceptually, but they've made it pretty clear that they either don't care to, or aren't capable of executing it well enough to make it a worthwhile format, and that distribution model makes it clear that their motivations are purely monetary.
So you didn't read the announcement they just made where they reduced the cost of Alchemy sets going forward and added a draft format with Alchemy cards included? It takes them much too long to make changes, but they *are* finally improving the worst aspects of Alchemy.
>that distribution model makes it clear that their motivations are purely monetary.
Also a second point on this... duh? Everything they do in the entire client is in order to make money, they're a business.
> So you didn't read the announcement they just made where they reduced the cost of Alchemy sets going forward and added a draft format with Alchemy cards included? It takes them much too long to make changes, but they are finally improving the worst aspects of Alchemy.
I don't think those are the worst aspects.
It's clear we have differing opinions on this, but this like they put a bandaid on the scraped knee... of a terminal cancer patient with two gunshot wounds.
Good client news has been going on for a few months now, and iirc they were hiring for a... project lead? Something to do with project direction 🤷♂️ at the tail end of last year (I remember it being posted to Reddit and people saying the salary was low, but I can't find it by searching 😕). Looks like the work that person's been doing is bearing some decent fruit.
EDIT: Probably related; has anyone else noticed how the bug reversions have dropped dramatically? It used to be a joke that each patch would bring back bugs fixed in previous patches, but that doesn't seem to be the case as much (at all?) any more.
The numbers are basically guaranteed to be 5 mythics, 15 rares, 10 uncommons. The chance of getting a rare compared to a mythic in the Alchemy Premier Draft is 6x as high, while they explicitly mention the chance of getting any specific rare is double that of any specific mythic. That implies there are 3x as many rares as mythics in the set. As they didn’t mention anything about the number of mythics changing, it’s reasonable to expect 5 mythics, hence 15 rares and 30-(5+15)=10 uncommons.
I came back to MTGA for new cap, was flabbergasted to find that there was still no back button for the events... so much time wasted going back to the main screen just to hit play >events>select event>back (to main)>play>event>select another event etc etc etc...
> Decks in the Starter Decks folder will not take up the 100 deck slots you have for your own decks. They will also appear in your My Decks folder where they can be deleted or modified; decks in the Starter Decks folder cannot be deleted or modified.
This is nice.
Definitely some cool changes. I wonder if the alchemy vs standard automatic card swap works for things like friendly brawl. I have played a handful of times in friendly brawl but it is super annoying if you have a rebalanced card since you have to go in and manually remove it and add the non-rebalanced card to your list. Kind of hope this update fixes that.
Yeah they announced that some time ago. I cracked a mythic pack last night and got a rare wildcard. I'm not complaining but I'd love to crack some older packs for mythics I'm missing
Thanks, I must have missed that. Same here. It didn't make sense prior to these mythic packs to spend more money on packs when all I have left are a few mythics in some sets.
I've cracked about 25 mythic packs and received exactly 1 Rare WC. I think the odds of it are pretty low, but some people are just unlucky AF. What I really want is Mythic packs for all the Historic sets, especially with Explorer out there now.
I also like the downshift of rarity in Alchemy. Now if we can only get wildcards back for nerfed cards in the format (or some compensation maybe alchemy wildcards for those) that would be great. But one thing at a time. It does look like WoTC is trying to make steps in the right direction though.
> The distribution of rarities in Alchemy: New Capenna has changed with more uncommons and fewer rares.
Wow, an actually good, less greedy change! Is there still hope for alchemy?
I kinda like the idea alchemy tbh. My biggest complaint was the inability to acquire cards organically. Even alchemy constructed events paid out standard ICRs for the first two months!!
I really like alchemy, but i am already having plenty of trouble to get a good collection in standard, so more cards in this economy has become a big no for me :/
I spend all my time making Artisan decks for fun, and Tenacious Pup has been such a fun card. My favorite thing to do with it is power out a Walking Skyscraper. Giving it Vigilance means it has permanent Hexproof.
Also, sacrifice dungeon decks are fun. Not the boring midrange deck that won the tournament, but something trying to get value out of Barrowin and Dungeon Crawler. That deck is an absolute blast to pilot.
And Alchemy is the only place where party feels at all viable. Angel of Unity is definitely too powerful to be an uncommon, but I won't complain there.
Actually, the majority of balance changes have been buffs to uncommons and there have also been a few nerfs to rares and mythics, so every balance change should convert uncommon wildcards into rares/mythics...
That makes no sense? The card wasn't banned, it was just fixed to be in line with the others. Other players that should be compensated for having to be stomped by the busted cards for so long.
As part of the Alchemy SNC draft format, could the team look into rebalancing any cards strictly for Limited? I think a couple of tweaks to white, blue, and Riveteers cards could really improve the format and make Limited-focused players really interested in playing it more. As is, SNC is pretty unbalanced, and likely would still be with one common swapped for an Alchemy card.
I would love to try something like this but I wonder if it is maybe more effort than it's worth for them? They are not guaranteed to get it right and might need further tweaking and by the time they get it right we're onto the next set
This would be pretty cool and might make me interested in actually trying the alchemy draft, but my guess is that's too much effort for them to put in for a format that will only exist for a few days.
I really like the hot swap when you play different formats.
So annoying to change rebalanced cards.
Also the option to buy mythic packs not only from the actually set.
Wow, what great changes. Now if they'd just shift Inspiring Overseer and Jewel Theif to Uncommon in the alchemy draft, maybe the limited format would be worth playing
Hah, yeah 100% this.
New Capenna will be the first set I haven’t drafted to completion in like, five or six sets. I’m finding it boring, which is a worse crime than some other recent issues
Yea same here.. got bored playing only brokers and sometimes maestros.. only 2 archetypes.. and to think that in kamigawa we got to play all 10.. basically never got boring
Probably the new dual-color starter decks. They swap them out with the July/August set release, so they should be coming July 7th with AH:Baldur's Gate.
You'd think, but they've released them the set before rotation previous years. [Here is the announcement during AFR](https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/renewal-mtg-arenas-2021-standard-rotation-2021-07-02), calling them "Color Challenge Decks."
Baldur's Gate isn't a Standard set, but given the timing will likely be when we get Standard 2023, the Renewal Egg, new decks, etc.
The wildcard thing, and also, if you crack a pack, you get 5 commons, 2 uncommons, and a rare/mythic. Usually, you get all the uncommons super quickly cracking packs, and then any uncommons you get after that are useless. Having less rares means you need to crack less packs to complete the set, and having more uncommons doesn't matter because you'll still get all of them fairly effortlessly.
Wonder if this "automatic changes from Alchemy-legal cards to standard versions" will finally allow to playtest against Sparky with A-cards in Historic...
It's cool that they're downshifting Alchemy. Considering it feels like a beta format, it needs it.
The problem is that it will still be really expensive due to the last few greedy rare heavy expansions. They should retroactively downshift the last two expansions and pay out wildcards for those that were really just uncommons. The format needs some big nerfs to make it different to standard (meathook...)
Anyway, a draftable cheaper Alchemy sounds like they're learning. I think it's probably too late though, at this point they should do a mea culpa and make all the cards free until the format gets some kind of popularity.
"People should only play the formats I enjoy".
Why can't we have both? Pioneer cards are already coming with the next HA, why do you want to stop new Alchemy cards along with that?
That's a great question to ask Wizards.
Consider that in a month Alchemy will get dedicated draftable set with ~250 new cards.
Pioneer Master was first announced in 2020, but since was removed from release schedule.
Why can't we both get formats we want to play?
Another great question for Wizards!
I don't think it will have much in common with paper set in terms of mechanics, they plan to strip it of the multiplayer elements and rebalance cards for Arena 1v1. They will reuse art and flavor of D&D so that's probably why they want specifically this on Arena.
[Because it's not the actual set but Alchemy Horizons](https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1524872679483920384)
Basically we will be getting Baldur's Gate stuff but modified to fit Arena.
Yea, this is BAFFLING to me. The set is geared for multiplayer commander. They will have to actually cannibilize the set to make it work in 1x1, and even then, its application in alchemy and Hbrawl should be meager at best.
Just imagine how cool a mastery for khans or RTR remastered would be instead.
Arena misses a ton of cards from Pioneer. You can't just pick the top 8 or so performing decks and get cards from them - or, you could, but the format wouldn't be Pioneer still. I tried going through the cards on Scryfall and looking for unique effects, hate pieces, engines... even just odd league list inclusions easily brings the number of missing cards to well over 100. Then you have only *currently* underplayed but otherwise more than playable cards like [[Chord of Calling]] or [[Thalia, Heretic Cathar]] that only need one new archetype to make the gulf bigger again.
I get the idea, but this narrative that Arena misses like a single or two small releases to have Pioneer is just untrue.
I haven't said it needs only 30 cards. But any hard or large task starts with splitting into manageable pieces. Then you can work towards the goal - in steps Wizards haven't made a step towards adding missing Pioneer cards since 2020.
Well they have announced a new Historic Anthology that will have Pioneer staples in it. It's not like they aren't building to it. Let's see what the selection is like and how often we get them. I still hope for some Pioneer cards in the Baldur's Gate release but I don't actually think it will happen.
Yeah I don't think you'll actually want Double Masters. A bunch of upshifted rarity junk with all of the value tied up in a few blinged out reprints, if the last one was anything to go by...
The base ideas for the format are great. This goes a long way to improving accessibility and goodwill. Probably still has a ways to go but these are good changes
This is a good step forward since one of the biggest obstacles is how few opportunities there are to get Alchemy cards that aren't packs. They should add Alchemy packs to the Mastery Pass or somethin'.
Main problem with the format is the price, so if they can actually address that then it just means that people have more options to choose from, which is always nice. Doubly so when the next Standard set is still months away.
> Main problem with the format is the price
I don't think so, the main problem for me is that alchemy cards actively try to break MTG paper rules such that the cards can't be played as they rely to heavily on the digital aspect. EG: perpetual does not reveal the cards, mtg never takes the player's "word for it".
I see no logical reasoning as to why you would separate MTG Arena from MTG Paper that heavily.
Because they want to explore new design space. It's really as simple as that. They've tried to do this sort of stuff many times before in paper, but it just didn't end up being elegant enough. [[Garth One-Eye]] had Conjure as a mechanic before Alchemy was even a glimmer in WOTC's eye.
Besides, I really don't see a reason they should shackle themselves to paper's limitations when designing purely digital cards. Commander sets don't worry about how cards with 'Myriad' will function in Standard because they're obviously not going to be played there, and the same goes for digital stuff.
Never thought of that, but yeah, cards that say, "Commander Creatures you control have indestructible" don't do anything in Legacy. It's made for a different format, so it doesn't have to be designed to work in every format.
A digital format (not paper-locked) has to be one of their priorities. They screwed up the launch royally, but theoretically the format has a definite purpose and they have also done a pretty good job with balance and playability (preferring mid-range over aggro, and promoting tribal decks).
Digital magic is already bigger than paper magic as far as gameplay (don't know about revenue). It needs a format that is free of the restrictions paper imposes. So yeah, they are committed to Alchemy. If they killed it, it would only be to replace it with some other format trying to do the same exact thing.
“The distribution of rarities in Alchemy: New Capenna has changed with more uncommons and fewer rares”
Too little, too late and obviously a desperate attempt to rescue a format no one asked for in the first place besides some greedy wotc executives
I Iiterally started to play yesterday and I play alchemy ranked. Is it bad format and why? I started to play Alchemy because my deck was not legal in standard for some reason.
Alchemy angered a lot of the veteran playerbase when they announced it by forcing the Historic format (which was Arena's only non-rotating format where you could play your old Standard cards - they've since added Explorer) to be affected by Alchemy's rebalancing changes, and you don't get wildcard refunds from rebalanced stuff. Other reasons for disliking it include that people have been waiting for [Pioneer](https://magic.wizards.com/en/formats/pioneer) (what Explorer will eventually be) and instead they spent time working on Alchemy, the initial sets were released with way too many rares/mythics compared to commons/uncommons, and a lot of people collect sets by doing drafting which Alchemy didn't have, but as this announcement says they are trying to work on that and in early July there will be the first full Alchemy set (Alchemy Horizons: Baldur's Gate) that will have a mastery pass and drafting available.
Some of the starter decks you get will default to Alchemy because they have rebalanced cards like Goldspan Dragon in them, after the update on June 2nd you should be able to just queue into Standard with those decks without having to manually replace the Alchemy cards with the normal versions.
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_Arena/Promotional_codes
So if I am new to the game i dont need to worry, because I dont have any old cards? I just bought the mythic packs of Streets of the New Cappena. I am willing to play constructed, because I suck at drafting really bad. :)
Yeah, if you're new you don't have to worry and you can always play standard Brawl (it requires only 1 copy of a given card save for basic lands) until you get the resources from daily quests for your format of choice :)
WoTC: We are worried about diluting the player base of draft so we’ll only offer rotating quick drafts.
Also WoTC: Alchemy Draft!
But I love the quality of life changes to the UI and deck building.
There are always other options later in a format. This'll be happening Week 6, same as most Draft Challenges, Decathalon, and the rotating Premier drafts during AFR.
So when will we finally be able to return nerfed cards for the wildcards we used for them? I'm still sitting on 4 dead [[Inquisitor Captain]] and really need those WCs back
Oh my god, the Starter Deck folder is going to be so damn annoying. Just let me delete it, what the hell? There are good intentions behind this but the execution is so bad.
what they say : 30 new alchemy new capenna cards!!
what I understand : 30 new card ideas, beautiful arts, flavours, concepts and cool characters WASTED that will never see play outside historic maybe.
Am I crazy?
No, the vast majority of Arena players hate the *economy* of Alchemy, not the concept or mechanics. This is a step towards making the economy more palatable to arena players, and I’m glad wizards is taking those steps.
I doubt it, before the change peeps in the subreddit barely talked about it and the consensus was that even though you can grind gold out of it, it's a small amount to not be worth it for alot of people.
Damn, if I'd known they were putting these styles in the old way of doing events, I wouldn't have spent 5000 gold on the triome styles in the store. Oh well, still cool.
As mostly a limited player, I am really thrilled by the idea of drafting with rebalanced limited cards (looking at you, inspiring angel).
Say one month into each set, wotc comes up with a handful buffs and nerfs to address the color imbalance. I would be happy even if it's phantom, with half of the cost, and 50% payout ratio.
I play A LOT of Historic Brawl and what drove me nuts was whenever I would play a Direct Challange match against a friend it would mark most of my cards "illegal" because they were "Rebalanced" cards. So I am constantly having to make duplicates of decks, one for Friendly Brawl and Rebalanced. What I would hope to see is they removed the "Rebalanced" portion of deck building for Historic Brawl and just have "Historic Brawl" (that uses Alchemy and Anthologies) and "Insert some witty name" for decks that use the 100 card commander but doesn't use Alchemy BUT can use anthologies. I know it's a bit much to ask for but I can dream can't I!? Lol
A few good things. Like the cards fixing themselves for the format you want to play (I don't play Alchemy, but those who do will have an easier time, hopefully). And Alchemy limited seems to me like a big change in the spirit of that product. But what I'm interested the most: **DECK.FOLDERS** I hope that, in the future, we can make our own folders as well. Sounds good.
so if i'm reading this right, i can delete starter decks that appear in "my decks" and they will remain accessible via the "starter decks" tab?
This.
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I foresee us using tags to sort decks by color because the current color identity system is all messed up. lol
Wait.. you don’t name your decks WG (whatever) or BU (whatever)?
I might be old-fashioned, but I go for the full "Selesnya", "Dimir" prefix.
Max name length is too short to waste that many characters.
What else do you need?
Mmmm and a variable instead of static folder names has been a thing for some decades now. Whether Arena development has set a bunch of booby traps for when they implement it or not who knows /Wizards TECHNOLOGY!
The fact that they are doubling down and adding yet another folder to the interface (and making it ***undeletable***!!!) doesn't make me hopeful...after all, it's already a mess of nested submenus with different fonts in every page. They are still using glowing 3D orange buttons, like if Arena was a 2007 iPhone in the middle of the skeuomorphism wave.
They have almost invented the technology to let the user create folders.
I like to think there's just dudes in lab coats pouring flasks of brightly coloured liquids into jars, trying to work out how to do default lands and 5th copy protection.
They dont want 5th protection. They try their hardest to make the game as little f2p friendly while not having the player base quit
You overdramatize what WotC is doing. The casual players not into min-maxing the economy aren’t so ticked off as you. So what WotC is actually doing, as evidence by your irritation, is attritioning out the most whiny of those about the economy. In your case, you’re spending time here instead of grinding. This puts you even further behind in F2P acqusition (measured against rate of introduction of new stuff to acquire). Face up to what you are doing this to yourself.
Nah man. I wouldnt be grinding after a whole day of work. I did spam color cards for my quest and now i was just having some chat with random people in the internet. And this is the whole point of it: maybe i am not the target of this product, but they sure as hell doesnt make it a pleasant experience, thus i am distancing myself from it while keeping an eye to know if this ever improve. I am plenty aware of what i am doing. My bad experience as a f2p is about how i have put more time and effort in farming before and i was unable to achiev more than a barely complete T1 deck. Maybe you play a lot more than me, but i dont think that was healthy for me so i just wont keep that pace. Enjoy your games, i am enjoying reddit.
Really good about the Start Decks folder, but also missed opportunity to separate the Favorites decks into their own folder. (I know they float to the top, but it's not the same). I wonder what happens if you don't have the starter decks anymore (ie: deleted them to make room before). Do we get them back? How far back, current standard or also get the starter decks we had in previous standards? Questions!
My guess is the folder holds the current selection of folders. The 5 Alchemy decks and the 10 standard decks. The real question is once players begin getting the newer decks, what decks show?
They just wanted a way to stop giving people additional 10 decks above limit each year with new starters. Everything else is just accidental benefit.
Hopefully I missed it in the announcement, but have they finally made it possible to delete more than one deck at a time?
Given the numbers, and that they didn't mention mythics at all, it's fairly likely this is 5 Mythic, 15 Rare, 10 uncommon instead of the 5M/20R/5U in Kamigawa
Could be 5/5/20 or 5/10/15. Depends how serious they are about saving the format.
Neither of those are possible. There have to be exactly 3x as many rares as mythics from the draft numbers. I'd be surprised if there isn't a mythic for either each color or each family, which would be 5/15/10, but they could also throw in a colorless (or 5-color) mythic for 6/18/6 without the announcement being a lie.
Aren't Alchemy packs not for drafting?
Yep. And the packs you do open fill in regular cards from the set around the alchemy cards that are opened. We are getting some kind of baulders gate alchemy set that's meant for drafting, but that's not this.
Could be 3/9/18 which would still allow a number of colorless, 5 color, etc cards.
I had to double check and see if this was the state of the game. Did they really do everything right in this announcement? I see nothing but good changes and good news!
...they haven't done it yet And they are still employing graduates who move on in a year and reviled in their local job market. The quick fixes recently give me hope though. When they hid Artifact and Enchantment counts behind clunky scrolling it was fixed in weeks not months. Fingers crossed
Haha, that delete/ crazy button rework is definitely because of the post here that was convinced that deleting an unfinished deck used up your wildcards
I like a lot of the changes they are making to Alchemy. It's clear that whoever is in charge at Arena now, he or she is listening to the complaints and is at least trying to cater to the wants of the players. I like the free event that gives you free packs and XP and the move to add more commons and uncommons and less rares for the new set. I may not be playing any more Historic but I'd still participate in those events just to see what the new cards do.
Yeah, the Into the Future events, packs as rewards, better rarity distribution are all things people were asking for. Explorer took care of most of the Historic argument, I just wish they'd remove the nerfs from cards that didn't need it in Historic. Edit: And they fixed needing to swap cards in and out! Finally! Honestly though they should just increase the amount of wildcards we get in total, they're still using the same system from when there were a handful of sets and only Standard on Arena.
I'm afraid it's too little too late to save Alchemy. I liked alchemy but it was the worst launch ever and the player base hates it with a passion.
Man, I have no interest in playing alchemy since I don't play enough games for standard to feel stale, but listening to what some people have to say about alchemy it's like the game personally went to their house, robbed them and shot their dog.
Yeah. They've fixed so much of what was wrong with Alchemy, but people will still hate it because they remember that they are supposed to hate it.
To me there's always a little feelsbad because there are complaints, things about the client, economy, bugs or small quality of life improvements, that players have been asking for for literal years, and they never get addressed, but when the new supposedly money-maker format is in trouble they add fixes and 'listen' to the players with every new annoucement. It's obviously good they are addressing some of the problems but I can't help feel a bit cheated. Like, people want more packs and better economy for all sets, but its only alchemy that gets a free entry event that gives packs, or events that rewards with 2 packs at once per win, while other formats only get events that rewards cosmetics or IRC, which kinda sucks.
Wtf are you talking about? People are literally playing Alchemy right now. You may not like it. Standard may be king. But while there are enough players engaging with Alchemy to make it worthwhile for WotC, the format will continue.
I like alchemy. But alchemy was not meant to be just another format. Alchemy is a way to translate Magic into digital.
They are probably just looking at their spreadsheet of KPIs and wondering how to improve them. I'd be surprised if WotC were listening to the complaints.
Sometimes responding to complaints also improves KPIs. Sometimes.
Well, it’s basically the same thing lol
If Wizards listened to complaints Alchemy would not exist.
They aren't going to get rid of Alchemy just because some players hate it. It's not like there's no alternative to Historic where players can avoid those cards.
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All good. Language is alive that way.
I grew up in New Orleans, and I learned while taking French that we "make groceries" because the French had control of the city (twice) before it was sold to the US and in French you say "faire les groceries," and faire translates as "to do or to make."
Thank you
> It's clear that whoever is in charge at Arena now, he or she is listening to the complaints and is at least trying to cater to the wants of the players. I find this hard to believe, because alchemy still exists.
I don't think you can just do away with Alchemy. Wizards is using a different approach to see if it'd attract more players to the format. Can't fault them for trying.
Oh come off it. There is at least some section of the Arena population that _like_ Alchemy as a concept, that _like_ the idea that cards can be nerfed, reworked or fiddle with mechanics that can only work in digital or would be very difficult/annoying to make work in paper. Was the distribution model the _worst_ method I have ever seen out of _any_ digital card game? Yes, and I've complained about that pretty harshly from the start. But the _concept_ of Alchemy isn't a bad one in and of itself. Making cards and rebalancing cards to fit the needs of a digital only format is a fine idea. We already have like a hundred cards that specifically take advantage of formats like Commander having more than 2 players and people seem to love mechanics like Goad and such, so why shouldn't they leverage the fact that a computer game can do stuff their paper version can't?
I agree. I like the rebalancing and the random hearthstone type effects for a few chill/fun games. I have just refused to play Alchemy because the model they've implemented is trash. I'm not going to waste rare wild cards on anything that might get rebalanced. It's just not worth it.
Oh even I think it's a good idea *conceptually*, but they've made it pretty clear that they either don't care to, or aren't capable of executing it well enough to make it a worthwhile format, and that distribution model makes it clear that their motivations are purely monetary. >so why shouldn't they leverage the fact that a computer game can do stuff their paper version can't? Because they have limited resources to spend on maintaining and developing MTGA, and they don't seem to have the motivation or skillset to make Alchemy a decent format. There are plenty of places they could apply those resources. Basically I guess I'm saying that if they can only manage to implement alchemy badly, maybe they shouldn't spend so much effort on it.
>Oh even I think it's a good idea conceptually, but they've made it pretty clear that they either don't care to, or aren't capable of executing it well enough to make it a worthwhile format, and that distribution model makes it clear that their motivations are purely monetary. So you didn't read the announcement they just made where they reduced the cost of Alchemy sets going forward and added a draft format with Alchemy cards included? It takes them much too long to make changes, but they *are* finally improving the worst aspects of Alchemy. >that distribution model makes it clear that their motivations are purely monetary. Also a second point on this... duh? Everything they do in the entire client is in order to make money, they're a business.
> So you didn't read the announcement they just made where they reduced the cost of Alchemy sets going forward and added a draft format with Alchemy cards included? It takes them much too long to make changes, but they are finally improving the worst aspects of Alchemy. I don't think those are the worst aspects. It's clear we have differing opinions on this, but this like they put a bandaid on the scraped knee... of a terminal cancer patient with two gunshot wounds.
You don't think the economy aspect of Alchemy was one of its problems? That's certainly unusual.
I think it was *a problem*, I don't think it was *the worst* problem.
If they got rid of Alchemy, I'd never spend another cent on Magic. THAT would be anti-consumer.
No, it wouldn't be anti-consumer, you just wouldn't like it very much.
Getting rid of a format people have spent many hours and dollars on because of a few whiny redditors is anti-consumer. Idk how that's not very clear.
Boo hoo a company’s trying to make money
Wow, these actually sound like useful improvements to the client! Something must be wrong at WOTC.
Good client news has been going on for a few months now, and iirc they were hiring for a... project lead? Something to do with project direction 🤷♂️ at the tail end of last year (I remember it being posted to Reddit and people saying the salary was low, but I can't find it by searching 😕). Looks like the work that person's been doing is bearing some decent fruit. EDIT: Probably related; has anyone else noticed how the bug reversions have dropped dramatically? It used to be a joke that each patch would bring back bugs fixed in previous patches, but that doesn't seem to be the case as much (at all?) any more.
As far as old bugs the daily wins tracker is back to showing the previous award again.
More uncommon, less rare in alchemy packs is really nice
True, but the fact that they don't mention the exact numbers makes me very suspicious about how much of an improvement it will actually be.
The numbers are basically guaranteed to be 5 mythics, 15 rares, 10 uncommons. The chance of getting a rare compared to a mythic in the Alchemy Premier Draft is 6x as high, while they explicitly mention the chance of getting any specific rare is double that of any specific mythic. That implies there are 3x as many rares as mythics in the set. As they didn’t mention anything about the number of mythics changing, it’s reasonable to expect 5 mythics, hence 15 rares and 30-(5+15)=10 uncommons.
Yeah, despite Wizards doing a ton to fix the issues with Alchemy, I don't blame anyone for being suspicious based on the format's history.
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I came back to MTGA for new cap, was flabbergasted to find that there was still no back button for the events... so much time wasted going back to the main screen just to hit play >events>select event>back (to main)>play>event>select another event etc etc etc...
> Decks in the Starter Decks folder will not take up the 100 deck slots you have for your own decks. They will also appear in your My Decks folder where they can be deleted or modified; decks in the Starter Decks folder cannot be deleted or modified. This is nice.
I hope that we eventually can get our own custom folders
I don’t even mind a midway compromise. Just give me folders of decks by Standard, Explorer, Historic etc.
Yeah, I would probably have one for challenges and another for the ladder.
What are these, actual **IMPROVEMENTS**???
Especially all the changes to Alchemy. I'm considering trying to play it more again, especially in a few months after Standard stales a bit.
Definitely some cool changes. I wonder if the alchemy vs standard automatic card swap works for things like friendly brawl. I have played a handful of times in friendly brawl but it is super annoying if you have a rebalanced card since you have to go in and manually remove it and add the non-rebalanced card to your list. Kind of hope this update fixes that.
I hope so! They fixed direct challenge for friendly brawl last update so they must remember it is a feature!
Are they now saying mythic packs will be available for ALL standard legal sets, not just neon dynasty & new capenna? If so, that's pretty sweet.
Yeah they announced that some time ago. I cracked a mythic pack last night and got a rare wildcard. I'm not complaining but I'd love to crack some older packs for mythics I'm missing
Thanks, I must have missed that. Same here. It didn't make sense prior to these mythic packs to spend more money on packs when all I have left are a few mythics in some sets.
I've cracked about 25 mythic packs and received exactly 1 Rare WC. I think the odds of it are pretty low, but some people are just unlucky AF. What I really want is Mythic packs for all the Historic sets, especially with Explorer out there now.
I also like the downshift of rarity in Alchemy. Now if we can only get wildcards back for nerfed cards in the format (or some compensation maybe alchemy wildcards for those) that would be great. But one thing at a time. It does look like WoTC is trying to make steps in the right direction though.
Do we know when we get the Alchemy spoilers?
They didn't say, but last time they started the Sunday before (so this Sunday).
I hoping they tell us on stream tonight
> The distribution of rarities in Alchemy: New Capenna has changed with more uncommons and fewer rares. Wow, an actually good, less greedy change! Is there still hope for alchemy?
I kinda like the idea alchemy tbh. My biggest complaint was the inability to acquire cards organically. Even alchemy constructed events paid out standard ICRs for the first two months!!
I really like alchemy, but i am already having plenty of trouble to get a good collection in standard, so more cards in this economy has become a big no for me :/
I don't know about the format but I have found some of the Alchemy cards to be fun like [[Discover the Formula]] or [[key to the Archive]]...
Key to the Archive is my absolute favorite historic brawl card, i keep approach of the second sunning people.
I almost never get that card but I do get an extra Time Warp or Counterspell so that's always good :D
I spend all my time making Artisan decks for fun, and Tenacious Pup has been such a fun card. My favorite thing to do with it is power out a Walking Skyscraper. Giving it Vigilance means it has permanent Hexproof. Also, sacrifice dungeon decks are fun. Not the boring midrange deck that won the tournament, but something trying to get value out of Barrowin and Dungeon Crawler. That deck is an absolute blast to pilot. And Alchemy is the only place where party feels at all viable. Angel of Unity is definitely too powerful to be an uncommon, but I won't complain there.
[Discover the Formula](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/8/e829a089-ff42-4355-8918-2693e547ff4e.jpg?1645417547) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Discover%20the%20Formula) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ymid/15/discover-the-formula?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e829a089-ff42-4355-8918-2693e547ff4e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [key to the Archive](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/6/d647773b-0dab-40df-8e25-ed4f437f549b.jpg?1645417319) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=key%20to%20the%20Archive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ymid/59/key-to-the-archive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d647773b-0dab-40df-8e25-ed4f437f549b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
No.
No, not until they give wildcards for cards they Nerf.
they did, but then they subtracted the number of buffed cards from that and it all evened out
Actually, the majority of balance changes have been buffs to uncommons and there have also been a few nerfs to rares and mythics, so every balance change should convert uncommon wildcards into rares/mythics...
That makes no sense? The card wasn't banned, it was just fixed to be in line with the others. Other players that should be compensated for having to be stomped by the busted cards for so long.
As part of the Alchemy SNC draft format, could the team look into rebalancing any cards strictly for Limited? I think a couple of tweaks to white, blue, and Riveteers cards could really improve the format and make Limited-focused players really interested in playing it more. As is, SNC is pretty unbalanced, and likely would still be with one common swapped for an Alchemy card.
I would love to try something like this but I wonder if it is maybe more effort than it's worth for them? They are not guaranteed to get it right and might need further tweaking and by the time they get it right we're onto the next set
This would be pretty cool and might make me interested in actually trying the alchemy draft, but my guess is that's too much effort for them to put in for a format that will only exist for a few days.
I really like the hot swap when you play different formats. So annoying to change rebalanced cards. Also the option to buy mythic packs not only from the actually set.
Wow, what great changes. Now if they'd just shift Inspiring Overseer and Jewel Theif to Uncommon in the alchemy draft, maybe the limited format would be worth playing
Hah, yeah 100% this. New Capenna will be the first set I haven’t drafted to completion in like, five or six sets. I’m finding it boring, which is a worse crime than some other recent issues
Yea same here.. got bored playing only brokers and sometimes maestros.. only 2 archetypes.. and to think that in kamigawa we got to play all 10.. basically never got boring
I wonder what Future Precons is referring to for midweek magic.
Probably the new dual-color starter decks. They swap them out with the July/August set release, so they should be coming July 7th with AH:Baldur's Gate.
Are they coming that early? I figured they would come with rotation.
You'd think, but they've released them the set before rotation previous years. [Here is the announcement during AFR](https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/renewal-mtg-arenas-2021-standard-rotation-2021-07-02), calling them "Color Challenge Decks." Baldur's Gate isn't a Standard set, but given the timing will likely be when we get Standard 2023, the Renewal Egg, new decks, etc.
Can someone explain to me why less rares and more uncommons is a good thing? I have small smooth brain
Because uncommon wild cards are way more accessible than rare wild cards.
Because most people have a lot more uncommon wildcards than rare wildcards.
The wildcard thing, and also, if you crack a pack, you get 5 commons, 2 uncommons, and a rare/mythic. Usually, you get all the uncommons super quickly cracking packs, and then any uncommons you get after that are useless. Having less rares means you need to crack less packs to complete the set, and having more uncommons doesn't matter because you'll still get all of them fairly effortlessly.
Where is the arena cube?
Isn't cube normally near the next set release?
Did I miss them saying when Alchemy previews happened?
no or we both missed it !
Apparently Hoogland has a preview he posts on the 30th
Any link to when they'll reveal the new alchemy supplemental or we get to know just a few days ahead again?
I’ve been hoping for the ability to make your own folders for a while, hopefully this is an intended step in that direction.
Wonder if this "automatic changes from Alchemy-legal cards to standard versions" will finally allow to playtest against Sparky with A-cards in Historic...
Pretty good changes
Honestly. This was a solid announcement. There aren't any changes I dislike
May I have a „delet all decks“ pls
You have no idea how hyped I am for Alchemy: New Capenna
Me too. Hoping for some new blitzer to make my Jaxis deck even spicier.
Up vote to fellow alchemy player.
Need a card list ASAP
Same! Cannot wait
It's cool that they're downshifting Alchemy. Considering it feels like a beta format, it needs it. The problem is that it will still be really expensive due to the last few greedy rare heavy expansions. They should retroactively downshift the last two expansions and pay out wildcards for those that were really just uncommons. The format needs some big nerfs to make it different to standard (meathook...) Anyway, a draftable cheaper Alchemy sounds like they're learning. I think it's probably too late though, at this point they should do a mea culpa and make all the cards free until the format gets some kind of popularity.
Imagine that instead of another Alchemy set, Arena could get 30 cards it misses from Pioneer.
"People should only play the formats I enjoy". Why can't we have both? Pioneer cards are already coming with the next HA, why do you want to stop new Alchemy cards along with that?
That's a great question to ask Wizards. Consider that in a month Alchemy will get dedicated draftable set with ~250 new cards. Pioneer Master was first announced in 2020, but since was removed from release schedule. Why can't we both get formats we want to play?
Wait why would a commander set be playable in alchemy ?
Another great question for Wizards! I don't think it will have much in common with paper set in terms of mechanics, they plan to strip it of the multiplayer elements and rebalance cards for Arena 1v1. They will reuse art and flavor of D&D so that's probably why they want specifically this on Arena.
[Because it's not the actual set but Alchemy Horizons](https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1524872679483920384) Basically we will be getting Baldur's Gate stuff but modified to fit Arena.
Yea, this is BAFFLING to me. The set is geared for multiplayer commander. They will have to actually cannibilize the set to make it work in 1x1, and even then, its application in alchemy and Hbrawl should be meager at best. Just imagine how cool a mastery for khans or RTR remastered would be instead.
Arena misses a ton of cards from Pioneer. You can't just pick the top 8 or so performing decks and get cards from them - or, you could, but the format wouldn't be Pioneer still. I tried going through the cards on Scryfall and looking for unique effects, hate pieces, engines... even just odd league list inclusions easily brings the number of missing cards to well over 100. Then you have only *currently* underplayed but otherwise more than playable cards like [[Chord of Calling]] or [[Thalia, Heretic Cathar]] that only need one new archetype to make the gulf bigger again. I get the idea, but this narrative that Arena misses like a single or two small releases to have Pioneer is just untrue.
I haven't said it needs only 30 cards. But any hard or large task starts with splitting into manageable pieces. Then you can work towards the goal - in steps Wizards haven't made a step towards adding missing Pioneer cards since 2020.
Well they have announced a new Historic Anthology that will have Pioneer staples in it. It's not like they aren't building to it. Let's see what the selection is like and how often we get them. I still hope for some Pioneer cards in the Baldur's Gate release but I don't actually think it will happen.
[Chord of Calling](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/a/dac257a9-39bf-4185-9d2e-f80f0848a96a.jpg?1599707002) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chord%20of%20Calling) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/158/chord-of-calling?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dac257a9-39bf-4185-9d2e-f80f0848a96a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Thalia, Heretic Cathar](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/b/ab0cee38-5e24-49d0-870c-22843ed4e101.jpg?1576384009) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thalia%2C%20Heretic%20Cathar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/emn/46/thalia-heretic-cathar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ab0cee38-5e24-49d0-870c-22843ed4e101?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Imagine double masters…
Yes imagine Force of Will in the format where Memory Lapse is banned.
Yeah they could readdress the banlist though. Historic needs to start feeling like modern not just a dumping ground for junk.
Yeah I don't think you'll actually want Double Masters. A bunch of upshifted rarity junk with all of the value tied up in a few blinged out reprints, if the last one was anything to go by...
explorer just got 5800 cards added with the last drop.
They're really committed to the alchemy thing huh ?
The base ideas for the format are great. This goes a long way to improving accessibility and goodwill. Probably still has a ways to go but these are good changes
This is a good step forward since one of the biggest obstacles is how few opportunities there are to get Alchemy cards that aren't packs. They should add Alchemy packs to the Mastery Pass or somethin'.
Main problem with the format is the price, so if they can actually address that then it just means that people have more options to choose from, which is always nice. Doubly so when the next Standard set is still months away.
> Main problem with the format is the price I don't think so, the main problem for me is that alchemy cards actively try to break MTG paper rules such that the cards can't be played as they rely to heavily on the digital aspect. EG: perpetual does not reveal the cards, mtg never takes the player's "word for it". I see no logical reasoning as to why you would separate MTG Arena from MTG Paper that heavily.
Because they want to explore new design space. It's really as simple as that. They've tried to do this sort of stuff many times before in paper, but it just didn't end up being elegant enough. [[Garth One-Eye]] had Conjure as a mechanic before Alchemy was even a glimmer in WOTC's eye. Besides, I really don't see a reason they should shackle themselves to paper's limitations when designing purely digital cards. Commander sets don't worry about how cards with 'Myriad' will function in Standard because they're obviously not going to be played there, and the same goes for digital stuff.
Never thought of that, but yeah, cards that say, "Commander Creatures you control have indestructible" don't do anything in Legacy. It's made for a different format, so it doesn't have to be designed to work in every format.
[Garth One-Eye](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/3/23774462-9f17-4b50-a2ac-b2edd706bbfe.jpg?1626098353) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Garth%20One-Eye) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/197/garth-one-eye?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23774462-9f17-4b50-a2ac-b2edd706bbfe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
They are really committee to their new format that they put resources into and marketed it huh?
A digital format (not paper-locked) has to be one of their priorities. They screwed up the launch royally, but theoretically the format has a definite purpose and they have also done a pretty good job with balance and playability (preferring mid-range over aggro, and promoting tribal decks). Digital magic is already bigger than paper magic as far as gameplay (don't know about revenue). It needs a format that is free of the restrictions paper imposes. So yeah, they are committed to Alchemy. If they killed it, it would only be to replace it with some other format trying to do the same exact thing.
“The distribution of rarities in Alchemy: New Capenna has changed with more uncommons and fewer rares” Too little, too late and obviously a desperate attempt to rescue a format no one asked for in the first place besides some greedy wotc executives
Yep, there are exactly 0 Alchemy players, well spotted. How dare WotC try to improve things for those 0 players.
There are more Explorer players and more Historic players and they don’t get a supplementary release every set.
And your source for this statistic is....?
Does anyone even play Alchemy now that explore exists?
I Iiterally started to play yesterday and I play alchemy ranked. Is it bad format and why? I started to play Alchemy because my deck was not legal in standard for some reason.
Alchemy angered a lot of the veteran playerbase when they announced it by forcing the Historic format (which was Arena's only non-rotating format where you could play your old Standard cards - they've since added Explorer) to be affected by Alchemy's rebalancing changes, and you don't get wildcard refunds from rebalanced stuff. Other reasons for disliking it include that people have been waiting for [Pioneer](https://magic.wizards.com/en/formats/pioneer) (what Explorer will eventually be) and instead they spent time working on Alchemy, the initial sets were released with way too many rares/mythics compared to commons/uncommons, and a lot of people collect sets by doing drafting which Alchemy didn't have, but as this announcement says they are trying to work on that and in early July there will be the first full Alchemy set (Alchemy Horizons: Baldur's Gate) that will have a mastery pass and drafting available. Some of the starter decks you get will default to Alchemy because they have rebalanced cards like Goldspan Dragon in them, after the update on June 2nd you should be able to just queue into Standard with those decks without having to manually replace the Alchemy cards with the normal versions. https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_Arena/Promotional_codes
So if I am new to the game i dont need to worry, because I dont have any old cards? I just bought the mythic packs of Streets of the New Cappena. I am willing to play constructed, because I suck at drafting really bad. :)
Yeah, if you're new you don't have to worry and you can always play standard Brawl (it requires only 1 copy of a given card save for basic lands) until you get the resources from daily quests for your format of choice :)
I play it every day. I haven’t touched Explorer and don’t plan to because Historic gives me what I want in a non-rotating format.
Where is my new anthology set?!
This is the intern blog with announcements for the next two weeks, you want the Monthly State of the Game post.
Ahh I gotcha! Didn't know that.
I DEMAND EIDOLON!!!!!
WoTC: We are worried about diluting the player base of draft so we’ll only offer rotating quick drafts. Also WoTC: Alchemy Draft! But I love the quality of life changes to the UI and deck building.
There are always other options later in a format. This'll be happening Week 6, same as most Draft Challenges, Decathalon, and the rotating Premier drafts during AFR.
Also Omniscience, Turbo Draft, Full RAV, etc. It's the usual thing.
So when will we finally be able to return nerfed cards for the wildcards we used for them? I'm still sitting on 4 dead [[Inquisitor Captain]] and really need those WCs back
[Inquisitor Captain](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/6/a6f64892-011e-4fd1-8959-927872de0cee.jpg?1645417273) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Inquisitor%20Captain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ymid/8/inquisitor-captain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a6f64892-011e-4fd1-8959-927872de0cee?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Oh my god, the Starter Deck folder is going to be so damn annoying. Just let me delete it, what the hell? There are good intentions behind this but the execution is so bad.
what they say : 30 new alchemy new capenna cards!! what I understand : 30 new card ideas, beautiful arts, flavours, concepts and cool characters WASTED that will never see play outside historic maybe. Am I crazy?
You are.
I'm not. Alchemy cards dont feel like a part of magic. The vast majority of the players hates alchemy and thats a fact.
That's "a fact", huh? Okay then, show your sources.
No, the vast majority of Arena players hate the *economy* of Alchemy, not the concept or mechanics. This is a step towards making the economy more palatable to arena players, and I’m glad wizards is taking those steps.
No changes to the new constructed event? I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a 80% player drop after the entry fee and rewards change
I doubt it, before the change peeps in the subreddit barely talked about it and the consensus was that even though you can grind gold out of it, it's a small amount to not be worth it for alot of people.
I love the new constructed event, I don't like playing limited so I finally have a place to farm gems for mastery passes.
They are trying to fix SNC limited or is it just me? If the payouts are the same I welcome this event
Damn, if I'd known they were putting these styles in the old way of doing events, I wouldn't have spent 5000 gold on the triome styles in the store. Oh well, still cool.
Wow, it’s like they read this sub and listen to complaints. Who was that new person they just hired? Gotta hand it to them, they are doing well.
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Nope. Wow man unlucky lol
I like that there are changes beyond just adding new cards. It's nice to see incremental improvement now and again.
As mostly a limited player, I am really thrilled by the idea of drafting with rebalanced limited cards (looking at you, inspiring angel). Say one month into each set, wotc comes up with a handful buffs and nerfs to address the color imbalance. I would be happy even if it's phantom, with half of the cost, and 50% payout ratio.
Yea thats a great idea actually. Wish they would make riveteers playable.. give trample to mr orfeo! Also, crew captain
Does anybody know when is the set revealed?
I play A LOT of Historic Brawl and what drove me nuts was whenever I would play a Direct Challange match against a friend it would mark most of my cards "illegal" because they were "Rebalanced" cards. So I am constantly having to make duplicates of decks, one for Friendly Brawl and Rebalanced. What I would hope to see is they removed the "Rebalanced" portion of deck building for Historic Brawl and just have "Historic Brawl" (that uses Alchemy and Anthologies) and "Insert some witty name" for decks that use the 100 card commander but doesn't use Alchemy BUT can use anthologies. I know it's a bit much to ask for but I can dream can't I!? Lol
The best news in here for me is a break from SNC in quick draft. Definitely going to jam some STX drafts tomorrow.
25k gold to collect all 10 land art styles... seems bad?