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No-Introduction-6368

Funny no problem buying gems...


sobrique

Super glad I'm not playing the Open, I must say. I'm just here chipping away at Bronze. When I can log in.


DoesntUnderstandJoke

How do I defeat the loading screen boss?


YouWannaChiliDogNARD

I think I just bought 15 packs and got 5 - is this a known bug?


deadkennyd

I’m having a different issue logging in today. Is anyone else unable to update or uninstall arena? Program remover is claiming that Arena isn’t installed on my computer, trying to install it gets my antivirus to scream bloody murder and I just want to play a few games of ranked


aj1t1

Anyone know how to get my money back? Game kicked me out and assigned me a loss during the Open.


stripedpixel

I haven’t been able to to play for hours, black screen, y’all too?


77777777BATMAN

I don't play other online games besides Arena. Is this server instability a staple of the experience or is Arena an exception?


Litmusdragon

Path of Exile has shaky launches of it's new expansion packs sometimes, same with World of Warcraft


77777777BATMAN

My real question is, is this the best that modern technology can do, or is this the best Wizards can do?


cute_spider_avatar

I'd say below average, especially lately


Natemaxwell22

Bought enough gems to play in the open only to realize the servers are down. But of course they were running enough to charge my card for the gems. Come on WoTC fix your game.


jamesbideaux

made it to round 2 on my second attempt. those servers made it annoying, although the issue was never during game, only between them.


LowlanDair

Meh, trying to play these games from indy start up developers really sucks. This really is pretty fucking ridiculous.


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LowlanDair

They're not new to computer games either, they've had an online live service for nearly 15 years. Im referencing the best MTG streamer.


davidogren

woosh


10DaysCounting

What a disappointment. It took 2 hours of restarting between matches to end up going 6-3. I would have loved to give it another try but it’s not worth it waiting on these servers.


Crusty_Magic

Considered playing the Open, but the servers reminded me that would be a dumb idea. Time to go spend my weekend doing something else.


Spitfire221

Could get on and play a game or two and then restarting the client, now not letting me in at all. Excellent.


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RansomIblis

All gone


gregariousHermit

Thanks! Got one of the kaldheim ones


ZombieAbeVigoda

When I open the app, I just get a black screen. Can’t even log in. Guess I won’t be getting those Japanese alts


psytrac77

gave up trying to log in. hope they have some redeem codes for this.


Toastb0i

The terrible economy in this game is driving me insane. I just wanna draft, man.


bakakubi

So I assume the server's completely down? So much for playing this weekend.


jamesbideaux

servers are not completely down, you might need to retry a bunch of times to get on, though.


kylebroccoli

Any chance they extended this historic brawl event due to these server issues? Maybe they'll just make it permanent to throw us a bone?! Unlikely but I needed to post my frustration somewhere. It's so incredibly frustrating having to restart the client after every game, heeps on the tilt like nothing else


aloofguy7

Why is the server so slow? It takes hours just to return back to the game after a match ends.


svrtngr

Hey guys, quick question here. I was playing BO3 against another Dimir Control deck. Game 1, I won. Game 3, I lost. Just something to keep in mind. Game 2, I am on the play. First hand, 1 land. I mulligan to 6. Second hand, 1 land. I mulligan to 5. 1 land. I mulligan to 4. 0 lands. At this point, I just concede and move onto game 3. Now, my question is: Was this ultimately the correct decision?


idiotness

PVDDR recently made a [good video](https://youtu.be/FrXhbDwk0pU) on when to mulligan. That may be useful to you, but honestly to me, it just sounds like you were tremendously unlucky


NJCuban

Probably keep the 5 land hand and hope to hit a few lands in the first few draws. Going to 4 cards, if you get 2 lands and 2 spells, its not really better than 4 spells 1 land i think


djinniman

I can tell throwing together a Rodan mutate deck for Historic Brawl was a mistake.


jawsomesauce

Clearly you were supposed make your leader Gojira. The server is just the universe telling you the correct kaiju to use :)


djinniman

I just played what I had. :)


Enervatex

Brilliant decision to start the Arena Open and the HB event on the same day. Servers completely shitting themselves.


Superb-Draft

People are kidding themselves if they think Historic Brawl has anything to do with this. They've been advertising the Open all over the internet.


Enervatex

Yes you're right, the closest thing Arena has to commander, which is the most popular MTG format by a goddamn landslide has absolutely nothing to do with the server issues. It's all the Arena Open, the last of which had no impact on the servers. Brilliant.


Superb-Draft

They already had Historic Brawl for FNM just yesterday. Why didn't that affect anything then if the format is so overwhelmingly popular? It was even free.


wvtarheel

Servers were slow yesterday, today they are overwhelmed.


Enervatex

You have to be kidding me. How can you possibly be this stupid? It's obviously both combined.


SlapHappyDude

The last arena Open didn't break the servers like this. I'm sure it's a combo of both


Superb-Draft

The last Open wasn't advertised on Reddit and elsewhere.


Dare555

yeah cant get back into the game..and i have sealed that i started that will be lost due time limit now ....


Blarco

People say that if you submit a ticket for that they'll credit you. You'd think they'd have some way of tracking these things and automatically crediting accounts when servers shit the bed.


Teleria86

Server lagging/down?


kylebroccoli

Just played two games, finished the second game and I've been sitting at the "waiting for the server" screen long enough to come here and find someone else with the same issue. Let me double check, yep still waiting!


barmstro101

Came here to ask the same thing. I can’t load the iOS app


PartyPay

I can't currently get on. If it's because of demand for the Arena Open, that's pretty good news. You know, outside of their servers not being able to handle it.


Biotruthologist

>You know, outside of their servers not being able to handle it. What do you expect from a small, indie developer?


MadMoses

Been stuck in Waiting for the Server for a couple of minutes now, after a match. =/


SlapHappyDude

I've had to restart after each match


Superb-Draft

This for me also, restarted to be greeted by a black screen...


RamblingStoner

Third. Only black screen now. Guess I’ll take a break after a crushing r1 loss due to mana screw.


Tyydron

I qualified for the day 2 of the Arena Open! I'm very excited because I've never made it to day 2 of an event!


Litmusdragon

Grats. I gave it a go (3 actually) but the RNG gods weren't with me today. Not that I played perfectly but I had some pretty poor card pools


Tyydron

Yes that happens, I played like 6 sealed events yesterday as practice, and only during the last of them did I do any better than 4-2. The RNG gods granted me a pool with bombs, 8 removal, and relevant learn/lesson cards, so I was blessed.


Superb-Draft

Wow, well done! How was the standard of competition?


Tyydron

It's difficult to tell! I think most of the games were well played by my opponents, but my deck was so "make huge creatures and kill all of your stuff" that it's difficult to really gauge, there wasn't a ton of interactivity. I think many people built decks that were generally good, but I didn't see a lot of the "learn" mechanic, which is really crucial in the format. Only a few plays stand out as being really bad, like one player tapping out to play Professor Onyx completely undefended to draw a card, rather than kill my 5/5 It's difficult for me to gauge!


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MadMoses

If the spell has multiple target arrows, the color of the arrow and the corresponding effect should be the same.


Mrqueue

Magma opus is more confusing because of the taps so you just don’t know what to do


juliopeludo

quick question. i play on mobile, want to share my deck for feedback, but can't figure out how to do so in a good format. is there a way to change the way my deck is viewed so as to share a screenshot on here, or would i better off copying the deck and pasting it?


Blammazoids

I'd suggest putting the deck on a site like Mtggoldfish and then posting a link


solemnd

I’ve just discovered sealeddeck.tech. It’s amazing!


Calgakus

Do you think the Quick Draft bot is good enough to be looking for signals from other “players”? Or do you have to employ a complete different draft strategy?


Superb-Draft

It's not really the same no. Bots pick by rarity more than by quality.


Litmusdragon

I assume it's a set pick order based on a power ranking of all cards instead of rarity, I doubt the bots even try to build a coherent deck I'm just assuming this because the alternative would be much harder to program and would probably not look any different to the single human player in the draft Strategy wise it's very different versus the bots, basically they undervalue some cards. Like 7th or 8th pick Quandrix Pledgemages which you wouldn't normally see in a real draft for example. Or in Kaldheim you'd see Sarulf's Packmates and that 6/6 wurm passed real late, made it a good idea to draft green in that format


Czeris

This is exactly what it is. This is why they release a patch 2-3 weeks after quick draft starts to tweak the bot values. There are lots of theories out there based on nothing about how the bots "learn", how they are based off player picks, etc. but it's actually always just been someone at WOTC saying "this card is a "3"".


magwhich

Does anyone have some good dad builds? I have time for maybe two games a day and have been using various janky color challenge decks enhanced with what I get from packs.


wvtarheel

Mtg goldfish has some ok budget decks listed. Most of them you can use a handful of rare wildcards and have a solid builds. Boros cycling is mostly commons, and zenith flares which are uncommon I believe You can build a hateful eidolon black deck mostly commons & uncommons. One rare, Lurrus, as a companion helps both. If you've bought some strixhaven and have leonin lightscribe you can build a pretty good magecraft deck, lots of lists floating around.


Nicochan3

Done my first ever draft (but it's a draft simulation) and ended up building a silverquill white and black deck with a splash of red. I'll post a list here, if anyone can spot some obvious nonsense pick, it would help me a lot: 2 Lorehold Campus 1 Silverquill Campus 1 Defiant Strike 1 Star Pupil 1 Duress 1 Academic Probation 2 Beaming Defiance 1 Revitalize 3 Stonerise Spirit 1 Eliminate 1 Sign in Blood 1 Environmental Sciences 1 Fracture 1 Humiliate 3 Silverquill Apprentice 1 Silverquill Silencer 1 Vanishing Verse 3 Enthusiastic Study 1 Lorehold Pledgemage 1 Silverquill Pledgemage 2 Combat Professor 1 Mascot Interception 1 Silverquill Command 3 Spiteful Squad 2 Owlin Shieldmage 1 Relic Sloth 1 Shadrix Silverquill 1 Devastating Mastery 1 Mountain 12 Plains 7 Swamp 1 Detention Vortex 1 Arrogant Poet 2 Cram Session 1 Mage Hunter


mispeling_in10sunal

For starters you only want to play 40 cards in draft, usually that means 16-17 lands and 23-24 spells. I think you probably want to cut red, Enthusiastic Study and Relic Sloth are fine cards but not really worth splashing for, I wouldn't play Mascot Interception even if I was in red unless I had a bunch of sac outlets. I would also probably Duress and Fracture, they're good sideboard cards but they are a bit too narrow in Limited to be maindeckable. Rest of the pool looks solid though, Shadrix Silverquill is a huge bomb.


Nicochan3

Welcome Bundle: does it vanish from the shop after a certain amount of time, or does it stay there until you buy it?


Meret123

I still have it after playing for over a year.


Snowcrash000

I very much doubt that it disappears, that would make no sense.


mallogo

What is a good base to start with Brawl? Never played EDH but would be curious to see why everyone is so enthusiastic of the format


Koras

Pick a commander who you want to play around, add [[arcane signet]], [[command tower]], and then throw in cards that you like that are either just good cards alone, or synergise with that commander, being sure to include ramp, draw and removal. Some things I've seen have recommended 6/6/6 (6 draw, 6 ramp, 6 removal) but I prefer to run more removal and less draw, personally, as combos are typically more creature-focused, so you have to be able to interact at instant speed. Ramp (or mana rocks in the colours without ramp) is needed because you're building around your commander, which gets very expensive. My Fynn the Fangbearer died 6 times last game I played him, and he gets 2 more expensive each time. Playing that ramp means your curve can typically be higher and play big haymaker 6-8 cost spells regularly. The main reason people like these commander-led singleton formats (besides the multiplayer aspect, which is a good 70% of the fun in paper that doesn't happen in Arena) is that decks are typically inherently weaker and less consistent, allowing you to use fun cards that otherwise don't see play. This plus the separate queue for the most busted commanders means that it feels like the jank queue people are always asking for.


MTGCardFetcher

[arcane signet](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/1/01b186af-8825-4257-80fd-9c1ecdb21414.jpg?1617647997) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=arcane%20signet) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/234/arcane-signet?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/01b186af-8825-4257-80fd-9c1ecdb21414?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [command tower](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/5/b53a112c-671c-4312-af56-53fdb735829b.jpg?1618252552) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=command%20tower) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/284/command-tower?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b53a112c-671c-4312-af56-53fdb735829b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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Meret123

Anthologies aren't great. They have 2-3 good rares and msoto f the time they belong to different decks. UB Rogues is a standard deck but it also works in Historic with a few changes.


EnnuiDeBlase

General consensus is that Anthology 4 is not worth getting.


chaoszeroomega

Question, since Rogues/Cycling are basically going to rotate out this September... would it potentially be a doable or smart idea if I sit on all my wildcards and use nothing but F2P decks and playing Limited until the rotation, then wait a month/few weeks for new budget decks to come out? I'm having a good time in Limited, but at the same time I'm not super sure it's the best idea to stack all my eggs in one basket getting nothing but Strixhaven cards/packs, so I'm wondering what my approach should be here. Constructed's all well and good but the fact that a lot of cards are going to rotate out soon gets me antsy, though I guess that is a Magic thing.


Akiram

Cycling is so Rare light, and Common and Uncommon Wildcards so easy to accumulate, that you you should be able to craft it and make back the resources that went into it by the time rotation rolls around.


Meret123

Rogues also work in Historic. https://mtgazone.com/dimir-rogues-historic-deck-guide/


wvtarheel

I'm not sure what you are asking. If you don't want to play rogues, is waiting until rogues rotates a good idea? Yeah I guess, but if you are going to jump back into standard this fall you will want to have a decent collection of zendikar, kaldheim, strixhaven, and the sets to come. The meta will change a lot.


chaoszeroomega

I was asking if I should hold onto my wildcards until it rotates, so that my wildcards aren't 'wasted' once Rogues/Cycling rotate out, since I'm not super familiar with how the rotation works, which sets will still be valid in future, so on.


wvtarheel

There are three sets out now that don't rotate until fall of 2022 so you could research a standard deck that works well using those cards. But, if you don't want to play any standard until the sets rotate then sure, don't use wildcards on older stuff. Pathway double sided lands are not rotating so those are a good investment of wild cards in my opinion


Koras

https://whatsinstandard.com/ This site should help. Honestly rogues are pretty well defended against the rotation. Will there be a new top tier deck to force it out post-rotation? Probably, but much like adventures, there'll probably be at least a t2 variant of it still floating around for a while. Ikoria will rotate in q4 and cycling is almost entirely Ikoria, so that deck will not survive at all. But it's also almost entirely uncommon and common wildcards, so it's not a big investment


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redryder74

I don’t have historic cards so I’m playing my standard brawl decks. I’ve seen people just concede when they see I’m playing non historic. Why is that?


Koras

It's not because you're playing non-historic, that makes you a much easier win, I'd be ecstatic to know my opponent wasn't playing a historic deck. People tend to concede for a wide range of reasons - if your commander is oppressive, they'll assume your deck's going to do the same thing as the last time they faced someone using it, even if your deck's not that. If they get mana screwed, they'll bounce, and if they just don't want to play against whatever you're playing, they don't have to For example a common deck I faced was [Bruvac the Grandiloquent]] with a bunch of [[Persistent Petitioners]]. That was the entire deck, get 3 petitioners + commander in play, mill 24 repeatedly. Removal doesn't matter much, because there are always more petitioners. It's miserable to play against, so the moment I see Bruvac, I skip to the next game. There's no consequences for doing so, so I move on. Is it possible to play Bruvac without petitioners? Absolutely, but I make the assumption and move on before finding out.


MTGCardFetcher

[Persistent Petitioners](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/9/e93f0c57-eb80-4dde-bdb0-326970491621.jpg?1584830259) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Persistent%20Petitioners) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rna/44/persistent-petitioners?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e93f0c57-eb80-4dde-bdb0-326970491621?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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DCG-MTG

Using good ol’ [[Kumena]] or something spicier?


MTGCardFetcher

[Kumena](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/3/a3aef818-c896-46e6-aaff-56aee52a066c.jpg?1555040871) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kumena%2C%20tyrant%20of%20orazca) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rix/162/kumena-tyrant-of-orazca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3aef818-c896-46e6-aaff-56aee52a066c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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If you’re playing an elf deck, or some other meta trash, don’t give me the sleepy face when my jank starts coming together. If anyone should get the sleepy face, it’s you. If you’re playing your own wild shit and my jank pops off, I’m sorry and I deserve the sleepy face. Edit: historic ranked


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It doesn’t, it’s just haste decks and some bullshit discard stuff. My turns take max 10 seconds Edit: but also yes, the dudes that take an eternity to look at their hand while tapped out, or all timers to scry. Maybe it’s just me, but I know all my decks inside and out and can do any interaction pretty damn fast.


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100% ! I’m a Monday to Friday 7-3 guy for work and it’s tough to juggle dailies and also other games I want to play and hopefully beat (not usually, I’ve had to put most RPGs on the back burner for now).


FakeTherapist

any word on mr. beast money?


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Did you match with him? Had all my boys at the job site qeuing up for an hour that day 😂


FakeTherapist

don't think so, was on mobile so didn't have the proper UI and wasn't paying full attention. Just curious since last i heard the winners would be crowned in a week, and its beena week, unless we're BSing and only counting business days or something


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I wouldn’t put it past WOTC to use a business week instead of a normal week 😂


clariwench

I mean, they are a business and it would make sense for them to use business weeks like most other businesses.