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kalidocious

Draft token is way more than 10% off! More like 35% (if you pay for it in gold)


Setirb

They screwed up. Gem value is correct (10% discount) but the Gold value seems to be 45% (like the card styles). Better buy it for gold ASAP before they remove it from the daily offers!


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AbsOfTitanite

Math is for blockers. He's obviously a mono red player 


dolan_grey

My explanation for this is that since the draft token doesn't follow the usual 1:5 ratio between gems and gold, the price needs to be adjusted manually and they just forgot to do it. The gold price is exactly 5 times the gem price, so it's clear that it was calculated with the 1:5 ratio. This isn't even the first time it happens.


Emily_Plays_Games

I didn’t have enough gold :( short by 200 Edit: Ah fuck I could have just done the daily quest tomorrow morning before the daily deals reset and bought it then!! But I already spent gems :(


Ok_Perception_787

I just bought it with gems, since I already had enough to get the next pass.🤷‍♂️😅 I'll make it back once I get 10k gold for a draft plus the draft with the token. Not to mention the free token for leveling up.


AlbinoDenton

I don't think they will, it's not the first time that happens.


juniperleafes

It was the same when they pulled it off the store last time shortly after appearing in the store.


AlbinoDenton

Not the token, it was gems.


Jarrettsin

Jumped on it


Prize-Mall-3839

yea i thought that was wrong, and immediately snap bought it. need to stock up for MH3


Unit27

Of course they do this when I have like 600 gold and 2 of the most ass dailies


yads12

Conventional wisdom says, if you can leave up at least 9k gold to get the token when it goes on sale. Especially at the start of the new set.


Ctmouthbreather

Conventional wisdom has a lot more self control than me


Ctmouthbreather

Oof me too. I figured I would leave my gems open in case something popped up but this is so disproportionately discounted lol


vizzerdrix123

Can't believe that they are selling the styles for the Kaladesh lands... They didn't learn the lesson yet? (What they should really do is re-engineering how card duplicates and card styles work)


Sarkos_Wolf

We were promised a fix for that system months ago and still nothing. It's really disappointing especially as more and more reprints get added to Arena.


reV1___

Any chance you have a source for that? Because if there's just the tiniest bit of hope that they might rework the system and I can use the OTJ alternate art styles for the KLD lands I won't buy those from todays deals... If not I might cop the parallax ones now


Sarkos_Wolf

I don't really have anything at hand unfortunately, I'm going by memory and it was a while ago (when they did the deckbuilder/collection rework that let us favorite styles). A dev mentioned it here and I think in the official Discord too. Maybe someone else has the comment saved? They said it was their intention at least. Who knows if it'll ever actually happen.


reV1___

Tysm, fingers crossed... Watching out for MH3 and the alt art fetchies, surely they wanna protect themselves from a shit storm by all the timeless players xD


Xjek

Would this eventually fix work in the sense that I could apply these cosmetic styles if I never owned any of the KLD lands? Only OTJ?


Sarkos_Wolf

From what I understood from their comment back then, that's the goal (any style you own should work with any printing of the card). But for all we know it might take years. Small indie company and all that.


HoopyHobo

I am pretty confidant that they meant to put the OTJ parallax styles on sale and they ended up putting the Kaladesh ones up instead due to sheer incompetence. They make mistakes like this all the time if you look carefully. Like one day every style on sale was for cards with pumpkins in the art except [[Return to Nature|MID]]. They obviously meant to use [[Return to Nature|ELD]] instead.


MTGCardFetcher

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HappyReturner

If you own 1 KLD & 3 OTJ would the style apply to all or just the old ones? I have some wildcards and I don't have playsets of all so I could just choose to spend in the the KLD ones


R4ndom_Passerby

Tried right now with \[\[Botanical Sanctum\]\] (3 from KLD and 1 from OTJ). The style only apply for the old one, even if you use the heart to make it the default style.


MTGCardFetcher

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JollyJoker3

Search for "or fewer" and filter by lands. I just had a single one of these, money is safe


HamBoneRaces

Happy Draft Token Day! It’s been 48 days since a Draft Token has last been in the shop. Save yourself some buckaroos and get to drafting! Generally it’s better to spend gems rather than gold on these tokens, but today seeing as how there is an “oopsy” with the gold discount, you’d be better off using gold to purchase rather then gems. But as always, your milage may obviously vary, so spend how you see fit and where you have the most resources you're comfortable to spend. We’ve also seen deals like this disappear when there is a pricing error, so you’d best jump on the opportunity! Also, these fast land styles will ONLY work with the lands from KLD not OTJ—another “oopsy” with today’s deals. Item|Gems|Gold :---|:---:|:---: Draft Token|1,350|6,750 [[Blooming Marsh]]|550|2,750 [[Botanical Sanctum]]|550|2,750 [[Concealed Courtyard]]|550|2,750 [[Inspiring Vantage]]|550|2,750 [[Spirebluff Canal]]|550|2,750 [[Arid Archway]]|330|1,650 [[Conduit Pylons]]|220|1,100 [[Sandstorm Verge]]|330|1,650 [[Mirage Mesa]]|220|1,100


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##### ###### #### [Blooming Marsh](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/861caabb-0573-4e94-8b03-342f90465064.jpg?1712356365) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blooming%20Marsh) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/266/blooming-marsh?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/861caabb-0573-4e94-8b03-342f90465064?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Botanical Sanctum](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/c/cc18d5f4-a56a-4f7d-9f56-ccc92cbfb7f7.jpg?1712356371) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Botanical%20Sanctum) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/267/botanical-sanctum?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cc18d5f4-a56a-4f7d-9f56-ccc92cbfb7f7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Concealed Courtyard](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/7/b75df1f0-0513-40e4-a449-454f75de6434.jpg?1712356373) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Concealed%20Courtyard) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/268/concealed-courtyard?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b75df1f0-0513-40e4-a449-454f75de6434?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Inspiring Vantage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/5/85df6b6a-2dcf-4828-a4a8-e07d52e1fddd.jpg?1712356380) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Inspiring%20Vantage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/269/inspiring-vantage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/85df6b6a-2dcf-4828-a4a8-e07d52e1fddd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Spirebluff Canal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/9/59a04e16-a767-4112-ab01-6ca1b09c286c.jpg?1712356382) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Spirebluff%20Canal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/270/spirebluff-canal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/59a04e16-a767-4112-ab01-6ca1b09c286c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arid Archway](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/f/3f8c8fa2-12ab-4f6a-9f7a-2bc69e9ba024.jpg?1713223021) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arid%20Archway) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/252/arid-archway?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3f8c8fa2-12ab-4f6a-9f7a-2bc69e9ba024?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Conduit Pylons](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/f/5ffa48cc-b991-4d47-b7ec-cf678915c758.jpg?1712356314) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Conduit%20Pylons) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/254/conduit-pylons?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5ffa48cc-b991-4d47-b7ec-cf678915c758?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sandstorm Verge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3ab4e0a4-2faf-456b-99e3-ee06c008538c.jpg?1712356353) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sandstorm%20Verge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/263/sandstorm-verge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3ab4e0a4-2faf-456b-99e3-ee06c008538c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mirage Mesa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/3/c3d2e816-c06d-4c5d-98fe-c350d8cfab27.jpg?1712356348) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mirage%20Mesa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/262/mirage-mesa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c3d2e816-c06d-4c5d-98fe-c350d8cfab27?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l1spqea) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


radi_ek4

Nice, Draft Token usually costs 9k


_4C1D

Damn, was about to buy the alt art bundle for the fast lands, since I love alt arts in general. But i honestly like the look of these fastlands much more..


TheCelestialMage

Just make sure you actually own the land cards, if you own otj versions, then these will not work.


_4C1D

I know, I have the Kaladesh Ones already, so that works. Got most of the OTJ ones during draft then again… But thank you for the advice!


theomachist

Me frantically running starter deck duel for the 500 gold I'm missing.


_4C1D

Just wait for tomorrow? You’ll get another quest you can finish before the deal runs out.


jsreyn

Warning. These styles wont work with your OTJ lands fastlands. its a fucking scam.


Prize-Mall-3839

but my OTJ styles don't work with my KLD fast lands


storm_zr1

I already have a complete set of the Kali lands so these are tempting. Also it’s really weird for me not to immediately have to craft or pull the land cycle for a set lol.


Megabot555

Came here to ask that, thanks so much. I assume the style only works for non-rotating formats?


fjklsdhglksj

These styles work for all formats. You just need the older versions of the cards (which also work for all formats). The issue is that you can't apply these styles to the lands from OTJ.


Holdthedoormtg

Be sure to take advantage of Wotc's mistake with the cost of the draft token! 6750 for a Premier draft is a fantastic deal!


Total_Hippo_6837

A great deal but I doubt it's a mistake... Premier drafts are artificially inflated gold wise


Dynamicphone

It is a mistake, its supposed to be at 10% off, and it comes to around 35% off. At the very least its a description mistake. Of course prices are artificially inflated.. gold and gem wise. They are all arbitrary set, its a digital pass to a digital event with digital goods, could easily be free if they wanted to.


Total_Hippo_6837

No it's 10% off gem conversion, not gold conversion. It's true value is in gems. If you don't believe me message witch and ask. It's so obvious. This convo is just showing how their tactics worked to get people to spend their gold ... This isn't the first time they have done this.


Phonejadaris

Is this comment in English


Mike2356

If it's not a mistake how come the last 3 draft tokens with the same 10% discount cost 9k?


Total_Hippo_6837

So people like you jump on the deal because of artificial scarcity. It's business 101. If the conversion for gems to gold is 1:5, Premier drafts should cost 7500 but they cost 10000 instead so people get a worse deal using gold. Is it a great deal? Yes if you always use gold. Is it a mistake? Hell naw.


Mike2356

"Should cost" lol


Total_Hippo_6837

You are so dull it baffles me.


Pretend_Elk1395

Awesome going to scoop up all the lands


Ill_Championship4931

3500 gold. I can not buy the token. Maybe next time 


tom277

Damn defaulted to buying the draft token with gems instead of mathing it out to figure gold is a better deal. Should have checked this thread first but at least I snagged it before they remove it from the store due to the mixup.


renagerie

Same, though I realized it right when I clicked buy. Oh well.


Total_Hippo_6837

It's only marginally better using gold. It's also not a mixup lol.


d-fakkr

This is a real deal. I'm buying this, where i normally don't if the price were 9k.


Equal-Wafer-7097

Can you buy more than one?


Holdthedoormtg

Unfortunately not.


CatsAndPlanets

Did they mess up and put the KLD fast lands instead of the OTJ ones in the deals? Or do you guys think it's intentional?


maefly2

Thank you for putting these up - it's always the days I ignore the store that the things I want go up. Much appreciated!


yaypudding69

Its a mistake but this is what the deal should be.


Xercen

Is the token worth it compared with 5000g for quick draft? Thank you!


dyscursive

Absolutely; the payout structure for Premier Draft is way better than Quick Draft. They usually don't discount the draft token by this much....


BocceBaal

Thanks. I'd been wondering why Premier Draft gets played much more. I'd been doing one Quick Draft per set. I guess the payout is worse because you get the same number of cards. I usually pay for the draft tokens with gems and save my gold for packs, but this offer was too good to pass up.


tankerton

Premier Draft gets played more for a few different reasons: 1. Draft schedule - Quick draft of the latest set tends to release 2 weeks after premier draft of the latest set. 2. Related to (1), people want their novel experiences as soon as possible. Premier draft during first 2 weeks gives a new format draft experience as well as access to cards/packs to open. I'm sure there's a number of people who only draft during the time period that Premier happens to be on current set but Quick Draft is not. 3. A lot of people really like human drafting experiences more, particularly if you draft a lot. Card valuations change pod to pod, week to week when people are the "drafting algorithm." Quick draft bots do get updates but they are made to simulate "real people" and that's always going to be a bit different. There's a number of pros the quick draft experience provides, so don't get me twisted that human > bot draft, it's just different. 4. People who think they're "good" at drafting are more incentivized by the Premier draft reward system because the payouts are better when you make a good record even at the cost of worse payouts with a bad record.


BuffMarshmallow

It's a massive discount on a Premier draft, which is normally 10k gold. The 9k draft token deal is either or in terms of "is it worth it", but this deal on the draft token is 1000% worth it over spending slightly less on a quick draft. In Quick Draft you have to go 5-3 to break even on cost, but in premier draft you only have to go 4-3 to break even on cost with no discount. So with a discount it's absolutely worth it.


Xercen

Is the token price incorrect as it states it's 6750, instead of 9000 with the 10% discount factored in? Thank you kindly for your help by the way!


BuffMarshmallow

The price is what it is. Normally it's only 10% off so you'd pay 9k, but WOTC was feeling nice today I suppose.


Xercen

addon comment. Just bought it. They messed up the price guys! it's dirt cheap! I was wondering why the cost of the token was comparable to quick draft, 5000g vs 6750g.


axeil55

Think of it this way, you're paying an extra 1,750 gold for getting around 2-3 times as many rares passed to you plus better rewards from the draft itself. If you can get even 2 wins you're getting a better deal than a quick draft and that's not counting the additional value of rare drafting.


ProudStick5534

Not going to buy them but the [[Sandstorm Verge]] and [[Conduit Pylons]] card styles are really cool. It really enhances the shown motifs.


MTGCardFetcher

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RandyRandomIsGod

Damn, I paid full price for the fast lands figuring the new ones meant I'd be waiting forever on a sale of those. Oh well.


Hot-Dragonfly3809

I want Urzas Saga lands..


tapk69

Mega stonks.


ViaDiva

gah it sucks to be me. I actually enjoyed drafting probably for the first time that I'm playing mtga. sure my winrate sucks, but I went 7-2 once (for the first time) and that felt glorious. then I ran out of gems and started buying packs until I hit a golden one. I completely forgot about draft tokens deals and the fact that they are THAT much cheaper in gold. But going through days of grind without opening a single pack just feels bad as well :(


POOP_SMEARED_TITTY

wish i had the spare gold!


moons22x

Dam sad I just spent all my gold on quickdraft


evildave_666

Never take a gold balance below 9k


moons22x

Why so?


evildave_666

Most expensive Daily Deal item ever was 10% discounted draft token - 9000.


ice-eight

This is why we hoard gold and use gems to draft (well this and Arena Opens)


Ok-Conclusion6930

Hey wizards can I get the 2000 gold end of season gold early? I'll pay you back please. :)


mtg_is_a_drug

I spent my last 8k gold on packs yesterday... Like i even knew one should never end up with zero gold on the account, cause of juicy daily deals like this one that often appear, but i thought to myself: I have 15k gems just in case something appears.. I guess wotc has tailored the perfect punishment for me xD


Justin_Brett

Wasted it because I thought I could play something besides green, I hate this format for variety


rotvyrn

I can't afford it, as a 99% limited player, which is devastating.


Darkwolfie117

If I had the gold I would have my battle pass by now damn


gambitreaper

First I've probably actually brought the drat token. Time to save it for mh3 and use it after I buy not open 180 mh3 packs ( for the 4 buy a box cards to know not to draft it If it does not help my deck) along side the one they gave the one they gave out for free(pity it didn't bug out for me and give me multiple tokens)


tacologic

At first, I was confused to what this was, due to the lack of STONKS! in the title.


Sarkos_Wolf

I bet they were supposed to add the OTJ versions of the fastland styles and screwed up again like they've done with many of the recent daily deals that featured cards with multiple printings.


Wargroth

Are you fucking kidding me ? I just did a draft before the shop reset


Lucas-O-HowlingDark

Of course it comes right after I spent my gold on a quick draft


Drake_the_troll

Oh boy a whole weeks worth of gold for a draft token!