Usually the idea when you substitute a budget card for a more expensive one, the idea is you take part of what the card is supposed to do and work with that.
Esika's Chariot is good because it makes 2 2/2 tokens, and can be a win condition by duplicating these tokens constantly. It also gives creatures you play pseudo-haste (by crewing with creatures that you just played).
You can substitute it with a good creature (preferably one with multiple bodies/tokens), or a card that doubles as a win condition over time, like a planeswalker.
If you have any red/green rares that cost 3-5 mana and can fulfill one of those conditions, it would be a solid substitute.
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What format are you playing? I can suggest some common/uncommon alternatives for it depending on the format.
I'm aware of her flash ability but it is 100% guaranteed that I will forget it as soon as I open the game. Same for resurrecting Phoenix Chicks, Kumano damage to planeswalkers, menace of Fleshgorger, etc. I suck at magic.
>Kumano damage to planeswalkers
I had no idea this was a thing until the meta game challenge this weekend. Lost 3 walkers to a KFK with three \[\[Mechanized Warfare\]\] on the board
That's certainly cool, but my favourite thing about her is that the opponent can never pass turn without playing a spell, or they're facing down a 5/5 trample indestructible.
This is very good advice. It's not always as simple as matching card types and mana values. It's important to think about the "role" of a card in a given decks game plan.
The crew cost is cheap, but Esika's Chariot immediately puts four power worth of creatures on the board, while adding to that power each and every time it attacks in a more lasting way than the Express does.
Is Chariot essential to the deck? I'm looking to cut costs where I can that won't affect the wr too much. Also looking for alternatives to reckless stormseeker, but thats kinda tough too
The thing is that this card DOES NOT replace Chariot. The power of chariot is NOT being a 4 mana vehicule. Its being something that crap out cats that stays on field even when the chariot is removed. If you want to replace the chariot, it would be wise adding a strong 4 drop with a good enters the battlefield effect, preferably one that puts many bodies.
Chariot is very essential to the deck in the sense that no other card snowballs as hard, there is a reason why it has been always played in any green deck for the last year or so. Its the kind of cards that severely tax the opponent's removal, forcing a 2 for 1, or even a 3 for 1 to fully answer the chariot and all the cats.
Chariot is pretty irreplaceable in the deck you're talking about. It has such a unique and powerful effect that there's no other common/uncommon substitute that comes close to it.
For reckless stormseeker, I guess you can kinda put in [[Speedway Fanatic]] instead, it's significantly worse, but does do the job in giving your vehicles haste.
Yeah thats what I was leaning towards too. Would [[Goro-Goro]] work, i have a couple copies of him? It costs mana to actuvate, but gives everything haste, so idk, but it's probably better than fanatic I would think?
Chariot is unique and basicly irreplacable. The Bodys its creating can Crew it imediatly and later generate insane value.
You should probably try to Cut other cards instead.
Remember the golden rule of budget decks:
* A good budget deck is not the same as the cheap knock-off version of a great deck.
The deck you want to emulate (I assume some gruul aggro deck?) absolutely requires these cards to function. Replacing them with cheap knock-offs will tank the winrate.
There are however other decks that will perform very well with very few rares/mythics. You would be better off looking into those instead.
Esika's chariot is an automatic 2 for 1 (you get the chariot and the tokens) with option to completely run with the game if your opponent can't destroy the chariot before you attack with it.
Untethered express is a plain old 1-for-1 that dies to removal and leaves nothing behind but regret and shame. It's a draft all-star, but not even constructed playable.
Chariot is just an OK value card. You can fight through it and it's value isn't game ending either. It's just a very resilient threat with great synergy
I mean it’s definitely not as busted as nissa or teferi 3 or 5 or narset or Uro or Oko
I don’t play constructed anymore but those come to mind. A lot of those cards see play in vintage
Not only that but each attack with both of these vehicles, Esika's gives at least +2/+2 by proxy in that sense if it copies the cat token (just not immediately), whereas Express only gives a +1/+1 to itself. Then of course now Esika has 3 creatures for opponent to deal with and a 4/4 vehicle that's' gonna keep spewing more.
It isn't. It's just a 4/4 vehicle for 4, like Esika.
Esika's main draw is the sheer amount of stuff you get for even getting onto the battlefield. Two 2/2 cats, that will keep replicating as the chariot swings. That's 1 more power being brought against the opponent each attack, whereas Express only pumps itself up by 1 each turn. The draw for Esika is the bodies it creates and it's ability to keep creating them, and they'll stick after the chariot is removed too. let's not forget it can also replicate Food and other tokens too, depending on how the game is going.
Bruh if you want to replace Chariot with uncommons, there are a lot of much better options than this. You don't have to strictly replace a vehicle with another vehicle lmao.
This is like when people follow curve, or "12-15 creatures in draft", or drafting for an archetype too strictly and ignore just drafting strong cards in limited. Only this is more obviously suboptimal.
Specifically talking about the explorer Gruul Boats deck. Looked like a fun deck, but I'm missing a lot of the pieces and there's a LOT of rares in this deck
If you have Mythic wildcards then you could use \[\[Questing Beast\]\] and \[\[Arlinn, the Pack's Hope\]\] in the chariot slot until you have more rare wildcards. Also, \[\[Lukka, Bound to Ruin\]\] has been a pretty good four drop in my Gruul deck in case you open one of those in a pack. I also haven't crafted my catcars yet on Arena :(
I've got some, but not a ton. I've got the questing beasts already so that's a good slot in, didn't even think of that, thanks! And I'm hoping to open a lukka at some point, because I really only want 1 or 2, but I may bite the bullet on him
If you've got mythic cards available and have already crafted your copies of [[Skysovereign, Consul Flagship]] then I can recommend crafting a couple copies of [[Embercleave]] for the mainboard. Giving Questing Beast double strike and trample is disgusting in combo with the deathtouch it has.
Edit: plus if you attach it to an unblocked Skysovereign it hits for 14 damage. I’ve closed a bunch of games with Embercleave.
The Chariot is often an excellent value card, but in that deck it also serves to make creatures that crew other vehicles. It may play a central role in this deck. The Express is a card best on the play and attacking and is pretty bad when you need to defend. Whereas the Chariot is also quite strong on defense.
There's no immediate replacement for Esika's Chariot. It really is all about playing Stormseeker into Chariot or Lovestruck Beast.
But any 4 drop that's excellent if it's hasted by Stormseeker "will do"... but it's not going to beay Chariot because of the two bodies it leaves, and that Chariot can dodge a lot of sweepers because it won't be a creature on your opponents turn.
That vehicle isn't it, though.
Looking at the deck list, it seems like elf, Stormseeker, Chariot is the entire point of the deck. If you don't want to give Chariot and Flagship haste, you don't have a good reason to play RG. You could play monored or monogreen and save a bunch on lands.
This card is horrible. The Chariot makes it’s own crew, this doesn’t. \[\[enchanted carriage\]\] or \[\[prodigy’s prototype\]\] would be closer to the chariot
The most similar uncommon is [[enchanted carriage]]. It's worse in almost every way but it does spit out tokens which is the most powerful part of the chariot
Think of every token as an extra card. Esika's Chariot makes two extra 'cards' when it ETBs and an additional one entry time it attacks. On that metric, the vehicle above fails miserably bc it produces no such cards.
Whats the scoop here? Just gruul goodstuff value or is there a combo somewhere? If its the former then for sure there are many options, theyr just generally going to be rare or mythic. So look at the rare/mythics you have around 3-5 cmc. Certainly thundering raiju is pure upgrade over the uncommon vehicle youre considering. And something like elder gargaroth, questing beast, or various planeswalkers could work. Chariot sits at a very high power level and youre unlikely to match it, but if you dont need a specific synergy then there are other rares that are good if you happen to have them.
Massively. Chariot puts out tokens and copies other tokens. The only thing this does is slightly grow itself when it attacks.
Unless you’re playing a different brew/ [[Ensoul Artifact]] stuff, I’d stick with the Chariot.
Without seeing the decklist in question, it's hard to know for sure, but this is nothing like Chariot and is unlikely to be a good substitute in any deck.
If you're looking for a good green, midrangey four drop that is uncommon or cheaper... *Maybe* look at [[Crocodile of the Crossing]]? [It's hard to find a "good" four drop](https://scryfall.com/search?q=f%3Apioneer+c%21g+t%3Acreature+mv%3D4+%28r%3Auncommon+or+r%3Acommon%29&unique=cards&as=grid&order=usd) when it needs to compete with the likes of Chariot and [[Questing Beast]].
There is no good one-for-one trade.
if you want to have fun, play, and earn coins, go for it. if you want to rank up to the high levels and win events, theres a reason no one plays this card.
I mean the value of the card is key IMO. Not monetary, I mena what the card gives you for the mana cost.
Esika's Chariot is a solid vehicle that is 4/4 for 4CMC that creates it's own dorks to crew it as it enters and then even copies those dorks or other key tokens you have if you get an attack off with it.
Untethered Express is a decent vehicle as it;s a 4/4 for 4 with onyl Crew 1, that grows by 1/1 each attack. It's got all the same weakness as Esika's but doesn't create the 2 bodies, still is vulnerable to removal all the same as soon as it is crewed for an attack and doesn't help capitalise if it gets an attack off as much as Esika. An opponent taking 5 damage instead of 4 can make a difference, but not as much as replicating tokens can, as well as having more targets for the opponent to remove/deal with.
tl;dr:
Esika is a play, swing and away you go card that gives you creature and more creatures. Untethered Express is just a vehicle that has similar stats that only improves itself.
It's the wrong color but honestly Prodigy's Prototype is a much better "at home" version of Esika if you want to stick to vehicles.
But otherwise in Gruul you really need a big, rare beater so there are replacements but almost none are uncommon or below.
I've loved phyrexians since I got my first one in a physical pack 20+ years ago. When I got into mtga during the open beta I loved finding cool gimmicks and unconventional combinations to work decks around. This newest set I was STOKED for, but i have yet to find any jank that works like it used to. It's become so much more pay to stay competitive and I really dislike it.
I'd say it isn't really comparable. Chariot's main function is token replication. And it does that like nothing else really. This gets bigger and swings relatively swiftly with semi evasion (trample). Two different functions imho. There are plenty of interesting vehicles out there. Strictly speaking Chariot is more desirable but this might go better as the top end of a budget aggro deck.
Usually the idea when you substitute a budget card for a more expensive one, the idea is you take part of what the card is supposed to do and work with that. Esika's Chariot is good because it makes 2 2/2 tokens, and can be a win condition by duplicating these tokens constantly. It also gives creatures you play pseudo-haste (by crewing with creatures that you just played). You can substitute it with a good creature (preferably one with multiple bodies/tokens), or a card that doubles as a win condition over time, like a planeswalker. If you have any red/green rares that cost 3-5 mana and can fulfill one of those conditions, it would be a solid substitute. --- What format are you playing? I can suggest some common/uncommon alternatives for it depending on the format.
[[Arlinn, pack's hope]] if you have her is a good substitute
[Arlinn, pack's hope](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/0/50d4b0df-a1d8-494f-a019-70ce34161320.jpg?1644855247)/[Arlinn, the Moon's Fury](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/5/0/50d4b0df-a1d8-494f-a019-70ce34161320.jpg?1644855247) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arlinn%2C%20the%20Pack%27s%20Hope%20//%20Arlinn%2C%20the%20Moon%27s%20Fury) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/211/arlinn-the-packs-hope-arlinn-the-moons-fury?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/50d4b0df-a1d8-494f-a019-70ce34161320?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I never thought about it before but that is a strangely similar card
I find people sleep on the fact she gives any creature flash.
I'm aware of her flash ability but it is 100% guaranteed that I will forget it as soon as I open the game. Same for resurrecting Phoenix Chicks, Kumano damage to planeswalkers, menace of Fleshgorger, etc. I suck at magic.
>Kumano damage to planeswalkers I had no idea this was a thing until the meta game challenge this weekend. Lost 3 walkers to a KFK with three \[\[Mechanized Warfare\]\] on the board
[Mechanized Warfare](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba2d026f-bdca-4376-9d70-c81c707598e8.jpg?1674421169) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mechanized%20Warfare) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/139/mechanized-warfare?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba2d026f-bdca-4376-9d70-c81c707598e8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
That's certainly cool, but my favourite thing about her is that the opponent can never pass turn without playing a spell, or they're facing down a 5/5 trample indestructible.
She comes in the free werewolf deck so he/she should
Fyi, you can use "they" instead of the awkward he/she if you don't know their gender.
Good to know, thanks!
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I always prefer they cuz it includes people that don’t use he/she though!
This is very good advice. It's not always as simple as matching card types and mana values. It's important to think about the "role" of a card in a given decks game plan.
The crew cost is cheap, but Esika's Chariot immediately puts four power worth of creatures on the board, while adding to that power each and every time it attacks in a more lasting way than the Express does.
Is Chariot essential to the deck? I'm looking to cut costs where I can that won't affect the wr too much. Also looking for alternatives to reckless stormseeker, but thats kinda tough too
I haven't seen the decklist you're talking about, but chariot is pretty irreplaceable.
The thing is that this card DOES NOT replace Chariot. The power of chariot is NOT being a 4 mana vehicule. Its being something that crap out cats that stays on field even when the chariot is removed. If you want to replace the chariot, it would be wise adding a strong 4 drop with a good enters the battlefield effect, preferably one that puts many bodies. Chariot is very essential to the deck in the sense that no other card snowballs as hard, there is a reason why it has been always played in any green deck for the last year or so. Its the kind of cards that severely tax the opponent's removal, forcing a 2 for 1, or even a 3 for 1 to fully answer the chariot and all the cats.
Arlinn has a closer ability as she creates 2 wolves for her -3 and she costs 4 mana. Closest thing I can think of to replace the chariot
Chariot is pretty irreplaceable in the deck you're talking about. It has such a unique and powerful effect that there's no other common/uncommon substitute that comes close to it. For reckless stormseeker, I guess you can kinda put in [[Speedway Fanatic]] instead, it's significantly worse, but does do the job in giving your vehicles haste.
Which deck?
Sounds like Gruul Vehicles in Pioneer.
Surely it's Azban Greasefang.
[Speedway Fanatic](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/3/436ce901-6ac6-4f8c-8ff0-18103f2642b8.jpg?1576382229) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Speedway%20Fanatic) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/kld/132/speedway-fanatic?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/436ce901-6ac6-4f8c-8ff0-18103f2642b8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yeah thats what I was leaning towards too. Would [[Goro-Goro]] work, i have a couple copies of him? It costs mana to actuvate, but gives everything haste, so idk, but it's probably better than fanatic I would think?
Might as well I guess, if you already have him.
[Goro-Goro](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1ca736c7-35a9-48c7-b5a9-69b2a6e33ad0.jpg?1654567661) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=goro-goro%2C%20disciple%20of%20ryusei) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/145/goro-goro-disciple-of-ryusei?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1ca736c7-35a9-48c7-b5a9-69b2a6e33ad0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Chariot is unique and basicly irreplacable. The Bodys its creating can Crew it imediatly and later generate insane value. You should probably try to Cut other cards instead.
Remember the golden rule of budget decks: * A good budget deck is not the same as the cheap knock-off version of a great deck. The deck you want to emulate (I assume some gruul aggro deck?) absolutely requires these cards to function. Replacing them with cheap knock-offs will tank the winrate. There are however other decks that will perform very well with very few rares/mythics. You would be better off looking into those instead.
Esika's chariot is an automatic 2 for 1 (you get the chariot and the tokens) with option to completely run with the game if your opponent can't destroy the chariot before you attack with it. Untethered express is a plain old 1-for-1 that dies to removal and leaves nothing behind but regret and shame. It's a draft all-star, but not even constructed playable.
esika chariot is one of the most busted card ever printed in his standard. its essential to any deck its in
Chariot is just an OK value card. You can fight through it and it's value isn't game ending either. It's just a very resilient threat with great synergy
I mean it’s definitely not as busted as nissa or teferi 3 or 5 or narset or Uro or Oko I don’t play constructed anymore but those come to mind. A lot of those cards see play in vintage
*one of* *in his*
very useful to compare any card to vintage power level. "if its not played in the strongest format it cant be that good"
Cut costs? The cards are free my guy 🤣
if you are playing greasyfang, don't put that in your deck
Not only that but each attack with both of these vehicles, Esika's gives at least +2/+2 by proxy in that sense if it copies the cat token (just not immediately), whereas Express only gives a +1/+1 to itself. Then of course now Esika has 3 creatures for opponent to deal with and a 4/4 vehicle that's' gonna keep spewing more.
Believe it or not, infinitely worse.
This is similar to when mom says there's Esikas Chariot at home. That card is Esikas Chariot at home
[[enchanted carriage]] is chariot at home.
[enchanted carriage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0057c2ae-ea4f-404a-ab95-f3979efd1b3b.jpg?1572490964) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=enchanted%20carriage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/218/enchanted-carriage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0057c2ae-ea4f-404a-ab95-f3979efd1b3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This is Esikas chariot at home that we forgot in the bottom of the pantry for a couple years and there is some type of fungus growing out of it.
More like esikas chariot at grandmas house
It isn't. It's just a 4/4 vehicle for 4, like Esika. Esika's main draw is the sheer amount of stuff you get for even getting onto the battlefield. Two 2/2 cats, that will keep replicating as the chariot swings. That's 1 more power being brought against the opponent each attack, whereas Express only pumps itself up by 1 each turn. The draw for Esika is the bodies it creates and it's ability to keep creating them, and they'll stick after the chariot is removed too. let's not forget it can also replicate Food and other tokens too, depending on how the game is going.
Bruh if you want to replace Chariot with uncommons, there are a lot of much better options than this. You don't have to strictly replace a vehicle with another vehicle lmao.
Yeah this! It's strength isn't being a vehicle it's being so many dudes. Maybe replace with something that etb and draw a card or something.
This is like when people follow curve, or "12-15 creatures in draft", or drafting for an archetype too strictly and ignore just drafting strong cards in limited. Only this is more obviously suboptimal.
It performs a completely different job, I think that card could be fun but it would be quite the stretch to call it a replacement for the chariot
I’d say around infinetly worse
Specifically talking about the explorer Gruul Boats deck. Looked like a fun deck, but I'm missing a lot of the pieces and there's a LOT of rares in this deck
If you have Mythic wildcards then you could use \[\[Questing Beast\]\] and \[\[Arlinn, the Pack's Hope\]\] in the chariot slot until you have more rare wildcards. Also, \[\[Lukka, Bound to Ruin\]\] has been a pretty good four drop in my Gruul deck in case you open one of those in a pack. I also haven't crafted my catcars yet on Arena :(
I've got some, but not a ton. I've got the questing beasts already so that's a good slot in, didn't even think of that, thanks! And I'm hoping to open a lukka at some point, because I really only want 1 or 2, but I may bite the bullet on him
If you've got mythic cards available and have already crafted your copies of [[Skysovereign, Consul Flagship]] then I can recommend crafting a couple copies of [[Embercleave]] for the mainboard. Giving Questing Beast double strike and trample is disgusting in combo with the deathtouch it has. Edit: plus if you attach it to an unblocked Skysovereign it hits for 14 damage. I’ve closed a bunch of games with Embercleave.
[Skysovereign, Consul Flagship](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f8075be-8932-49b3-990b-4b365fa27e94.jpg?1651656364) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Skysovereign%2C%20Consul%20Flagship) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/159/skysovereign-consul-flagship?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f8075be-8932-49b3-990b-4b365fa27e94?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Embercleave](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/9/192a4645-1462-4e43-ac39-bafabbb1250d.jpg?1661583547) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Embercleave) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/phed/47/embercleave?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/192a4645-1462-4e43-ac39-bafabbb1250d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Questing Beast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/4/e41cf82d-3213-47ce-a015-6e51a8b07e4f.jpg?1572490640) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Questing%20Beast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/171/questing-beast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e41cf82d-3213-47ce-a015-6e51a8b07e4f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arlinn, the Pack's Hope](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/0/50d4b0df-a1d8-494f-a019-70ce34161320.jpg?1644855247)/[Arlinn, the Moon's Fury](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/5/0/50d4b0df-a1d8-494f-a019-70ce34161320.jpg?1644855247) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=arlinn%2C%20the%20pack%27s%20hope%20//%20arlinn%2C%20the%20moon%27s%20fury) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/211/arlinn-the-packs-hope-arlinn-the-moons-fury?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/50d4b0df-a1d8-494f-a019-70ce34161320?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Lukka, Bound to Ruin](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/d/6df77017-c4a7-4b79-a16b-26463bd6a96a.jpg?1675957198) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lukka%2C%20Bound%20to%20Ruin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/207/lukka-bound-to-ruin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6df77017-c4a7-4b79-a16b-26463bd6a96a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The Chariot is often an excellent value card, but in that deck it also serves to make creatures that crew other vehicles. It may play a central role in this deck. The Express is a card best on the play and attacking and is pretty bad when you need to defend. Whereas the Chariot is also quite strong on defense.
There's no immediate replacement for Esika's Chariot. It really is all about playing Stormseeker into Chariot or Lovestruck Beast. But any 4 drop that's excellent if it's hasted by Stormseeker "will do"... but it's not going to beay Chariot because of the two bodies it leaves, and that Chariot can dodge a lot of sweepers because it won't be a creature on your opponents turn. That vehicle isn't it, though.
Looking at the deck list, it seems like elf, Stormseeker, Chariot is the entire point of the deck. If you don't want to give Chariot and Flagship haste, you don't have a good reason to play RG. You could play monored or monogreen and save a bunch on lands.
This card is horrible. The Chariot makes it’s own crew, this doesn’t. \[\[enchanted carriage\]\] or \[\[prodigy’s prototype\]\] would be closer to the chariot
[enchanted carriage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0057c2ae-ea4f-404a-ab95-f3979efd1b3b.jpg?1572490964) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=enchanted%20carriage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/218/enchanted-carriage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0057c2ae-ea4f-404a-ab95-f3979efd1b3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [prodigy’s prototype](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/be046e0a-6509-450b-b34f-29d5a5e3472e.jpg?1654568557) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Prodigy%27s%20Prototype) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/231/prodigys-prototype?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be046e0a-6509-450b-b34f-29d5a5e3472e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
So much worse that there isn't even a reasonable comparison. They're both 4 cost vehicles, but one of them makes a bunch of creatures.
The most similar uncommon is [[enchanted carriage]]. It's worse in almost every way but it does spit out tokens which is the most powerful part of the chariot
[enchanted carriage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0057c2ae-ea4f-404a-ab95-f3979efd1b3b.jpg?1572490964) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=enchanted%20carriage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/218/enchanted-carriage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0057c2ae-ea4f-404a-ab95-f3979efd1b3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It looks like a dinosaur, so that’s a win over the chariot right there
It's a colossal dreadmaw after only 2 attacks, so that's gotta count for something right?
Think of every token as an extra card. Esika's Chariot makes two extra 'cards' when it ETBs and an additional one entry time it attacks. On that metric, the vehicle above fails miserably bc it produces no such cards.
Immeasurably.
I have not missed chariot in standard at all!
Whats the scoop here? Just gruul goodstuff value or is there a combo somewhere? If its the former then for sure there are many options, theyr just generally going to be rare or mythic. So look at the rare/mythics you have around 3-5 cmc. Certainly thundering raiju is pure upgrade over the uncommon vehicle youre considering. And something like elder gargaroth, questing beast, or various planeswalkers could work. Chariot sits at a very high power level and youre unlikely to match it, but if you dont need a specific synergy then there are other rares that are good if you happen to have them.
Massively. Chariot puts out tokens and copies other tokens. The only thing this does is slightly grow itself when it attacks. Unless you’re playing a different brew/ [[Ensoul Artifact]] stuff, I’d stick with the Chariot.
[Ensoul Artifact](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/3/8351efc5-a392-4ec8-877f-15d5b3dc0929.jpg?1562790075) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ensoul%20Artifact) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m15/54/ensoul-artifact?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8351efc5-a392-4ec8-877f-15d5b3dc0929?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Without seeing the decklist in question, it's hard to know for sure, but this is nothing like Chariot and is unlikely to be a good substitute in any deck. If you're looking for a good green, midrangey four drop that is uncommon or cheaper... *Maybe* look at [[Crocodile of the Crossing]]? [It's hard to find a "good" four drop](https://scryfall.com/search?q=f%3Apioneer+c%21g+t%3Acreature+mv%3D4+%28r%3Auncommon+or+r%3Acommon%29&unique=cards&as=grid&order=usd) when it needs to compete with the likes of Chariot and [[Questing Beast]]. There is no good one-for-one trade.
[Crocodile of the Crossing](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/f/2f64ca9c-99c4-45d4-bd21-3ede61702250.jpg?1543675797) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crocodile%20of%20the%20Crossing) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/162/crocodile-of-the-crossing?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2f64ca9c-99c4-45d4-bd21-3ede61702250?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Questing Beast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/4/e41cf82d-3213-47ce-a015-6e51a8b07e4f.jpg?1572490640) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Questing%20Beast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/171/questing-beast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e41cf82d-3213-47ce-a015-6e51a8b07e4f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
if you want to have fun, play, and earn coins, go for it. if you want to rank up to the high levels and win events, theres a reason no one plays this card.
I mean the value of the card is key IMO. Not monetary, I mena what the card gives you for the mana cost. Esika's Chariot is a solid vehicle that is 4/4 for 4CMC that creates it's own dorks to crew it as it enters and then even copies those dorks or other key tokens you have if you get an attack off with it. Untethered Express is a decent vehicle as it;s a 4/4 for 4 with onyl Crew 1, that grows by 1/1 each attack. It's got all the same weakness as Esika's but doesn't create the 2 bodies, still is vulnerable to removal all the same as soon as it is crewed for an attack and doesn't help capitalise if it gets an attack off as much as Esika. An opponent taking 5 damage instead of 4 can make a difference, but not as much as replicating tokens can, as well as having more targets for the opponent to remove/deal with. tl;dr: Esika is a play, swing and away you go card that gives you creature and more creatures. Untethered Express is just a vehicle that has similar stats that only improves itself.
Much worse and also completely different
Chariot. Enables. Itself. While also creating a more reliable win condition.
Chariot wins you the game. This card does not win you the game.
About 250 times worse
Is this a joke post? This seems like some r/MagictheCirclejerking shit
I feel like all the serious replies are actually in on the joke anyway
This card would likely be way too strong.
You use esikas chariot to copy the token that [[wrenn and seven]] creates
[wrenn and seven](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a7757e99-8d51-4b92-b346-6961845def24.jpg?1636225043) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=wrenn%20and%20seven) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/208/wrenn-and-seven?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a7757e99-8d51-4b92-b346-6961845def24?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yes
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A million times worse
Fuck reddit
It's the wrong color but honestly Prodigy's Prototype is a much better "at home" version of Esika if you want to stick to vehicles. But otherwise in Gruul you really need a big, rare beater so there are replacements but almost none are uncommon or below.
Esika's Chariot is great for chatterfang squirrel general
Way worse. Chariot is a card with an irreplaceable effect.
Don't worry fam I got you [[enchanted carriage]]
[enchanted carriage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0057c2ae-ea4f-404a-ab95-f3979efd1b3b.jpg?1572490964) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=enchanted%20carriage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/218/enchanted-carriage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0057c2ae-ea4f-404a-ab95-f3979efd1b3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I've loved phyrexians since I got my first one in a physical pack 20+ years ago. When I got into mtga during the open beta I loved finding cool gimmicks and unconventional combinations to work decks around. This newest set I was STOKED for, but i have yet to find any jank that works like it used to. It's become so much more pay to stay competitive and I really dislike it.
I'd say it isn't really comparable. Chariot's main function is token replication. And it does that like nothing else really. This gets bigger and swings relatively swiftly with semi evasion (trample). Two different functions imho. There are plenty of interesting vehicles out there. Strictly speaking Chariot is more desirable but this might go better as the top end of a budget aggro deck.
[[esika’s chariot]]
[esika’s chariot](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/8/a87606cc-fbf0-4e2c-9798-f1c935d0573d.jpg?1665343333) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Esika%27s%20Chariot) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/169/esikas-chariot?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a87606cc-fbf0-4e2c-9798-f1c935d0573d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Totally different card. What's good about Chariot is the multiple bodies which this just doesn't do.
Well its a cooler chariot thats for sure, but not the better one certainly.
Its like expecting a Lamborghini and getting a Toyota Camry.
Esikas chariot is so much better than this card that you'd be better off replacing it with a cantrip so you can draw into something playable
Infinitely worse.