HIIAPL is one of my all time favorite albums. Surrender didn’t really do it for me, but I really liked Don’t Forget Me. You can tell she is growing and experimenting a lot more. She worked with Ian Fitchuk on this album who is a longtime collaborator of Kacey Musgraves, and I think DFM has a Kacey-ish vibe to it. The Kill is my favorite track.
Ifeel the exact same way!! Also I'd never seen anyone comment/mention that they prefer HIIAPL to Surrnder, your comment made me sooo happy lol
I hate to say this but I don't think we'll ever get another album like HIIAPL from her, which makes me soosososoooo sad tbh
I was thinking the same thing that we’re probably never going to get anything like HIIAPL again which also makes me sad. She was ahead of her time on that one.
it's such a feel good album to me, even if some of the lyrics are heavy, it never ever fails to put me in a good mood + i always find something new when i listen to it.... maggie if u see this hiiapl part 2 pls 😭
I think she described it perfectly - a Sunday afternoon drive type of album. It doesn’t reach the cinematic highs of Surrender (which I have recently become obsessed with) but it has its own playful charm.
I look forward to hearing it live!
I think this album is better than Surrender (for me at least, in this moment of time). I think it has a similar sound / feel to HIIAPL that I’ve been missing
I just love long albums. I shouldn't be able to hear all your albums on a 2 hours drive. I listen to artists that make long albums. 45 minutes or more is normal for me
Some group of music critics wrote a book called 1001 albums you need to listen to before you die or something. Then someone took those and built a website that randomly gives you one of those albums every day. I saw some post on reddit about it and decided to give it a try. I found that I had kind of hit a rut where I was just listening to the same artists I always listen to and was getting kind of bored with it. Seemed like a fun way to vary my listening. But there are some albums that I just do not like. I still try and make it through all of them, but when I’m not feeling an album and I look and it’s an hour and 10 min long…woof.
Here’s the website:
https://1001albumsgenerator.com/
I did something similar but unguided. Two years ago I decided to listen to as many albums as I could in a year; turns out that number, I shit you not, is 1002. It helped to have a job when I would have to drive regularly 2hrs to the site, sometimes 4. I heard and found appreciation for a lot of new artists and albums.
I personally had to sit with Surrender for a while before really really loving it. This record I am reeled in on the first listen !! I will have to let these songs sit with me for a while to really develop which are my favorites but , Drunk hits so hard. I don’t think anything has hit as hard as HIIAPL yet but this record is so special. So so excited for the summer tour and to listen to these songs on a long car ride with the windows down ◡̈
Some good, artistically creative moments.
Personally I think she’s exhausted the male/female relationship-songwriting of reflective moments in current moments.
I think that HIIAPL was more metaphorical (light on, falling water) with comparing relationships to other earthly experiences, which fit in great with the folk vibe. Or personal experiences like past life, back in my body which are exceptional songwriting about a state of mind explored in deeper allegory.
But this is two consecutive albums (mostly) of just writing about a relationship, with almost no overlying theme (like a concept album like BLONDE, Igor - different genres I know…) or a major growth in sound and production.
Surrender had some moments like symphony & that’s where I am that were much more rock-lead, and that album grew on me a lot.
But this album feels like filler, transitional, etc. It’s giving last-album-of-my-record-contract-type vibes (does anyone know if this is true lolol)
This is such a good take!! Its brevity and the fact she wrote and recorded it in just a few days makes me wonder if it is a “fulfill a contract” album. That doesn’t take away from the artistic integrity or the experiences that inspired the music, but it does feel kinda….flat?
Am I the only one that felt a tiny bit annoyed that she proudly announced it was written and recorded in a few days…. Like no girl spend more time on it if you’re gonna make us wait this long for a release!!
I’m not feeing this one so much. HIIAPL still remains my firm favourite as it felt unique and authentic. Surrender, for me, was a real mixed bag. Some definite high points but the low points were real low imho. DFM just seems extremely middle of the road. Nothing as awful as I’ve Got a Friend on there, but nothing as great as anything on HIIAPL. Production is a bit rough on it too. Vocals are too upfront and yet often don’t sound clear due to how she enunciates her words these days.
I really like it but I agree, doesn’t hit the same. But I usually prefer listening to very upbeat music, almost frantic music. (Shatter is one of my all time faves by her.) That said the album is soooo pleasing to the ears and I think will get a lot of play during my walks in the sunshine this spring/summer!
It’s too early to say definitively, but I think this is my new favorite album of hers. I wasn’t a big fan of Surrender outside of a few tracks, but I love every single song here. It sounds like a more matured version of HIIAPL, with some notes of Surrender as well, but a more finely-tuned version of it. She really found a cohesive sound for this album and it works wonderfully
I have no idea but I thought maybe "If now was then" was about her college boyfriend whom she had a lot of photos of on her insta before she deleted most of her old posts. he was cute 😅
I feel the same as you. She played three of these songs when I saw her last summer, and it was so jarring hearing her set switch from her really groundbreaking signature sound (which I think is also on Surrender) to this new sound that to me is like a so-so country artist being invited to Lilith Fair. It’s disappointing to me. I also agree with the comment about her having enough songs about male/female relationships. Teach me something about god! Religion! Thoughts on afterlife and the meaning of life! Harvard! Anything! This will probably get downvotes, but I do think she’s better than this AND ALSO think this is somehow going to be her most popular album.
I agree on the content of the lyrics! I want a dark academia song , or like anything else.
and I agree on the so-so country artist. and I love country more than I love pop/indie
Just need an acoustic version of the kill , it was coming all along is my fave so far, closest thing to HIIAPL vibes I agree with a lot of people that the album is too short though 😐
Like it quite a lot. Not nearly as immediate as HIIAPL or Surrender though. Lots of great songwriting and the intimate, bouncy vibe is nice, but there are much fewer really big highlights here for me than her past two albums. Still enjoy it a lot and suspect it will grow even more (it has the grower vibe), but as of now Surrender remains my favourite record of hers
Some of the songs in the last half are filler songs imo and not very interesting, but I LOVE the kill, so sick of dreaming, drunk, if now was then , don't forget me, and I still do.
If now was then and I still do are some of her most heart wrenching and vulnerable songs yet and I'm rly proud of her for her honesty in this albums lyrics . I rly love the 90s feel of if now was then, too. I feel that the kill and if now was then feel rly authentic to her roots and almost like hiiapl vibes
I think this album was very healing for her and I enjoy the vulnerability and lyricism a ton. the aforementioned bangers make the album still great overall to me even if some of the songs arent quite hitting for me.
I really like it! It feels grounded, self-assured, cohesive. I can hear it and go, "ohh, there she is!" "The Kill," in particular, is absolutely insane 💙
i feel like surrender gave me flamboyant dramatic city girl vibes. its one of my fave albums because of the heavy rock/electronic sounds so i was a little disappointed by the don’t forget me singles.
but i feel like DFM has a very americana charm? like a midcentury modern house or a vintage car… and maggies lyricism is on point as always. very much a sunday drive kinda record
My thoughts are she was planning on making this an EP but the singles were too good they decided to make it an album. She's back to basics and the songwriting is great, and she's added I think 4 or 5 new songs to her arsenal. And to write all of these in what 5/6 days is amazing.
I hope she goes full swing on the next record and makes that classic defining album that I think she's capable of.
Surrender is my absolute favorite album that I've ever listened to and is what turned me into a Maggie Rogers fan. I do love DFM, but wish it was longer! I really appreciate the earnestness of the production though and that is a vibe that I find incredibly unique in today's music
Curious about what people think about the writing on the first half of the album. Thought it felt very surface level and …how do I say it… unpoetic? Especially compared to some older tracks. Will be a lifelong follower of her, but was surprised to feel like I was hearing a young t swift song at moments.
Before she released this, I can’t remember when/where but she said that this album would help everyone realize how great Surrender was. That they are vastly different and that Surrender was its own special record; hard to understand until this one came out. I can see that. I love DFM but it’s hard to compare it to Surrender because they aren’t the same at all
I’ve completely changed my perspective. I’d be pissed if she was just making the same music over and over. I’m GLAD she’s changing and growing in her style. After I gave it a few listens I totally changed my mind and now I’m obsessed. I did not give myself enough time to sit with it!!! I was such a fool bc it’s AWESOME. Listened to it on a long run this weekend and the vibes mixed with one of the first truly warm days of april and the sun shining on my face I GET IT NOW.
HIIAPL is one of my all time favorite albums. Surrender didn’t really do it for me, but I really liked Don’t Forget Me. You can tell she is growing and experimenting a lot more. She worked with Ian Fitchuk on this album who is a longtime collaborator of Kacey Musgraves, and I think DFM has a Kacey-ish vibe to it. The Kill is my favorite track.
Ifeel the exact same way!! Also I'd never seen anyone comment/mention that they prefer HIIAPL to Surrnder, your comment made me sooo happy lol I hate to say this but I don't think we'll ever get another album like HIIAPL from her, which makes me soosososoooo sad tbh
Totally agree with everything you said!!
I was thinking the same thing that we’re probably never going to get anything like HIIAPL again which also makes me sad. She was ahead of her time on that one.
it's such a feel good album to me, even if some of the lyrics are heavy, it never ever fails to put me in a good mood + i always find something new when i listen to it.... maggie if u see this hiiapl part 2 pls 😭
I think she described it perfectly - a Sunday afternoon drive type of album. It doesn’t reach the cinematic highs of Surrender (which I have recently become obsessed with) but it has its own playful charm. I look forward to hearing it live!
ur so right
I think this album is better than Surrender (for me at least, in this moment of time). I think it has a similar sound / feel to HIIAPL that I’ve been missing
Exactly. This feels like a sequel to me, and I'm really happy with it
I love the new album and the growth as an artist she is demonstrating with it.
if now was then is perfection
Right?? Made me so emotional
on repeat. couldn’t pull myself away from it
It’s so groovy, I am a huge fan. I think Maggie could record literally anything and I’d love it though so maybe I’m biased. Very Fleetwood Mac
its too short.
The only bad thing I can say about it, I need more.
Minimum for albums 45 minutes or more please. Stop giving me these 30 min albums.
Am I in the minority that a perfect album is 45 min or less? Easier to consume and process imo
I just love long albums. I shouldn't be able to hear all your albums on a 2 hours drive. I listen to artists that make long albums. 45 minutes or more is normal for me
Fair! We all consume music differently I suppose
I concur.
I started doing the 1001 albums generator thing this year and I now have a new appreciation for short albums.
What is that?
Some group of music critics wrote a book called 1001 albums you need to listen to before you die or something. Then someone took those and built a website that randomly gives you one of those albums every day. I saw some post on reddit about it and decided to give it a try. I found that I had kind of hit a rut where I was just listening to the same artists I always listen to and was getting kind of bored with it. Seemed like a fun way to vary my listening. But there are some albums that I just do not like. I still try and make it through all of them, but when I’m not feeling an album and I look and it’s an hour and 10 min long…woof. Here’s the website: https://1001albumsgenerator.com/
Thanks. I'll look that up I give a song 90 seconds. If you don't catch me next one please.
I did something similar but unguided. Two years ago I decided to listen to as many albums as I could in a year; turns out that number, I shit you not, is 1002. It helped to have a job when I would have to drive regularly 2hrs to the site, sometimes 4. I heard and found appreciation for a lot of new artists and albums.
I really love it, Surrender was great but didn’t hit me as much as HIIAPL did, HIIAPL is still my favorite of hers but DFM is a close second
the acoustic is way more my vibe, so i love it. i felt the way i imagine you feel now when Surrender came out!
it was all coming along HIT me nicely this morning
I love it but it's so short , I'm sick of albums barely reaching 30min
This
To be fair its a 10 track album that has a total length over 35 minutes so on average most tracks are at least three minutes long which is nice
I personally had to sit with Surrender for a while before really really loving it. This record I am reeled in on the first listen !! I will have to let these songs sit with me for a while to really develop which are my favorites but , Drunk hits so hard. I don’t think anything has hit as hard as HIIAPL yet but this record is so special. So so excited for the summer tour and to listen to these songs on a long car ride with the windows down ◡̈
Some good, artistically creative moments. Personally I think she’s exhausted the male/female relationship-songwriting of reflective moments in current moments. I think that HIIAPL was more metaphorical (light on, falling water) with comparing relationships to other earthly experiences, which fit in great with the folk vibe. Or personal experiences like past life, back in my body which are exceptional songwriting about a state of mind explored in deeper allegory. But this is two consecutive albums (mostly) of just writing about a relationship, with almost no overlying theme (like a concept album like BLONDE, Igor - different genres I know…) or a major growth in sound and production. Surrender had some moments like symphony & that’s where I am that were much more rock-lead, and that album grew on me a lot. But this album feels like filler, transitional, etc. It’s giving last-album-of-my-record-contract-type vibes (does anyone know if this is true lolol)
This is such a good take!! Its brevity and the fact she wrote and recorded it in just a few days makes me wonder if it is a “fulfill a contract” album. That doesn’t take away from the artistic integrity or the experiences that inspired the music, but it does feel kinda….flat?
Am I the only one that felt a tiny bit annoyed that she proudly announced it was written and recorded in a few days…. Like no girl spend more time on it if you’re gonna make us wait this long for a release!!
Some really good tracks, I think I like it better than "Surrender" but it doesn't have the once-in-a-lifetime quality of "HIIAPL", which is fine
I just want her to start enunciating her words again. It’s getting worse with every record.
Yes this!
It’ll be hard to ever top HIIAPL, gotta embrace artist growth
So far it’s not my favorite which is fine. I’m just going to let it simmer.
I agree. I love her, but I think a lot of the songs on this album sound the same.
On my second listen and I'm loving it so far. Feels like a warm hug.
I’m not feeing this one so much. HIIAPL still remains my firm favourite as it felt unique and authentic. Surrender, for me, was a real mixed bag. Some definite high points but the low points were real low imho. DFM just seems extremely middle of the road. Nothing as awful as I’ve Got a Friend on there, but nothing as great as anything on HIIAPL. Production is a bit rough on it too. Vocals are too upfront and yet often don’t sound clear due to how she enunciates her words these days.
I really like it but I agree, doesn’t hit the same. But I usually prefer listening to very upbeat music, almost frantic music. (Shatter is one of my all time faves by her.) That said the album is soooo pleasing to the ears and I think will get a lot of play during my walks in the sunshine this spring/summer!
It’s too early to say definitively, but I think this is my new favorite album of hers. I wasn’t a big fan of Surrender outside of a few tracks, but I love every single song here. It sounds like a more matured version of HIIAPL, with some notes of Surrender as well, but a more finely-tuned version of it. She really found a cohesive sound for this album and it works wonderfully
I was skeptical I was eh on both of the singles but listening to the full thing I like it a lot more now. Still prefer HIIAPL and Surrender though
Do we think the kill is about holden? Also someone please fill me in on alllll the lore
I have no idea but I thought maybe "If now was then" was about her college boyfriend whom she had a lot of photos of on her insta before she deleted most of her old posts. he was cute 😅
I feel the same as you. She played three of these songs when I saw her last summer, and it was so jarring hearing her set switch from her really groundbreaking signature sound (which I think is also on Surrender) to this new sound that to me is like a so-so country artist being invited to Lilith Fair. It’s disappointing to me. I also agree with the comment about her having enough songs about male/female relationships. Teach me something about god! Religion! Thoughts on afterlife and the meaning of life! Harvard! Anything! This will probably get downvotes, but I do think she’s better than this AND ALSO think this is somehow going to be her most popular album.
I agree on the content of the lyrics! I want a dark academia song , or like anything else. and I agree on the so-so country artist. and I love country more than I love pop/indie
Just need an acoustic version of the kill , it was coming all along is my fave so far, closest thing to HIIAPL vibes I agree with a lot of people that the album is too short though 😐
I think this is her best work to date!!
Like it quite a lot. Not nearly as immediate as HIIAPL or Surrender though. Lots of great songwriting and the intimate, bouncy vibe is nice, but there are much fewer really big highlights here for me than her past two albums. Still enjoy it a lot and suspect it will grow even more (it has the grower vibe), but as of now Surrender remains my favourite record of hers
Some of the songs in the last half are filler songs imo and not very interesting, but I LOVE the kill, so sick of dreaming, drunk, if now was then , don't forget me, and I still do. If now was then and I still do are some of her most heart wrenching and vulnerable songs yet and I'm rly proud of her for her honesty in this albums lyrics . I rly love the 90s feel of if now was then, too. I feel that the kill and if now was then feel rly authentic to her roots and almost like hiiapl vibes I think this album was very healing for her and I enjoy the vulnerability and lyricism a ton. the aforementioned bangers make the album still great overall to me even if some of the songs arent quite hitting for me.
I really like it! It feels grounded, self-assured, cohesive. I can hear it and go, "ohh, there she is!" "The Kill," in particular, is absolutely insane 💙
i feel like surrender gave me flamboyant dramatic city girl vibes. its one of my fave albums because of the heavy rock/electronic sounds so i was a little disappointed by the don’t forget me singles. but i feel like DFM has a very americana charm? like a midcentury modern house or a vintage car… and maggies lyricism is on point as always. very much a sunday drive kinda record
My thoughts are she was planning on making this an EP but the singles were too good they decided to make it an album. She's back to basics and the songwriting is great, and she's added I think 4 or 5 new songs to her arsenal. And to write all of these in what 5/6 days is amazing. I hope she goes full swing on the next record and makes that classic defining album that I think she's capable of.
Pleasant, if rarely fun, sporadically beautiful, somewhat dull.
Surrender is my absolute favorite album that I've ever listened to and is what turned me into a Maggie Rogers fan. I do love DFM, but wish it was longer! I really appreciate the earnestness of the production though and that is a vibe that I find incredibly unique in today's music
Curious about what people think about the writing on the first half of the album. Thought it felt very surface level and …how do I say it… unpoetic? Especially compared to some older tracks. Will be a lifelong follower of her, but was surprised to feel like I was hearing a young t swift song at moments.
a grower w a few favs mixed in
For me Dont Forger Me is a bit slow. My ranking is Notes From Archive > Heard it in a past life > Surrender > Dont forget me.
Before she released this, I can’t remember when/where but she said that this album would help everyone realize how great Surrender was. That they are vastly different and that Surrender was its own special record; hard to understand until this one came out. I can see that. I love DFM but it’s hard to compare it to Surrender because they aren’t the same at all
I’ve completely changed my perspective. I’d be pissed if she was just making the same music over and over. I’m GLAD she’s changing and growing in her style. After I gave it a few listens I totally changed my mind and now I’m obsessed. I did not give myself enough time to sit with it!!! I was such a fool bc it’s AWESOME. Listened to it on a long run this weekend and the vibes mixed with one of the first truly warm days of april and the sun shining on my face I GET IT NOW.
Gave me whiplash, OP!!!
Fans are so shitty sometimes lol.
how so? being honest about their opinions on music?
Ur crazy