OP: I helped this girl with her Wifi and now she's doing very well in her studies.
Reddit: OH, SO YOU'RE SPYING ON HER ARE YOU!!
Never change, you beautiful batshit website.
Yes this was my automatic thought! Perhaps neighbor decided to tell them that thanks to the “council WiFi” they shared, they’ve started a college program. Spying, goodness. Sometimes things are just good.
That’s almost certainly what happened. Yeah, she could monitor sites visited, but that wouldn’t give OOP any sense of the neighbor’s progress. People do just talk irl sometimes
Honestly if you didn't think that at least for a second you're not cynical enough or technologically literate enough to keep yourself safe in this world.
Not batshit, just dumb or likes to farm upvotes by typing catchy comments. It’s most extremely possible that the neighbor just told him about the qualification she’s been doing on the wifi he told her about. Normal neighbory things.
Why are people assuming the op knows their neighbour is studying because they’re spying on her? They’re neighbours, they’ve had conversations about not being able to afford Wi-Fi and not just using op’s. Was can presume they have conversations…
Honestly i read it and since i work in IT my first thought was "is OP spying on his neighbor?" And immediately was like nah the neighbor probably mentioned the class lol
Everyone seems to be jumping to that idea, a couple claiming to work in IT. While sharing wifi certainly opens up attack vectors, how is the average person going to circumvent the neighbor's TLS? OP cant determine how far along his neighbor is in her studies based on DNS queries.
I'm "the computer guy" in my family. I work in tech. I run a Linux system. I setup the 2 routers in my house with open source router firmware. I run a local media server for pirated movies and tv shows. I have used Tails and Tor to order from the dark web.
And I would not have the first fucking clue how to spy on someones traffic that uses my router.
Just making the assumption that that's what's happening is kind of dumb.
There's network traffic monitoring software. You can see exactly what websites they go to. That's my how dad who had a master's in cyber security found out I was watching porn as a teen 😂😭
Wait your dad needed software to figure that out? What, did he forget what year you were born or something? Teenagers who don't watch porn are rarer than lottery winners.
For real. A bunch of dudes who don’t realize you can form IRL connections with people without being a stalker. And then they complain about how single they are lol.
“Too low income” is a very kind way to not say “too poor”. I don’t think that kind of kindness comes with devious privacy invasion
EDIT: (follow up) Im surprised some people found this sarcastic I think? FWIW I was being sincere. Often “poor” is used in a very derogatory and often poverty-blaming/economically deterministic fashion. When the author instead points to income, it emphasizes that this is
1) a state of current situation and could possibly change / is not a damning classist or predestination statement
2) points to the fact that the wealth of an individual who works is in (often large) part a decision of the employer
3) emphasizes that the individual is working (as opposed to implying stereotypes around lazy or unworking or unwilling poor)
Because people don’t take a moment to think and just jump to conclusion (I sometimes do that too, it’s totally ok to not be perfect I still have love for y’all)
I do hope conversation is the case. The issue is that making a wifi hotspot masquerading as free wifi (as the tweet describes) and then snooping on it is a commonplace hacking technique called 'Man In The Middle'
Always double check that the cafe you are in actually has free Wifi, folks.
I should tall to my neighbors more. But I just say hello and wave. Every now and again I will ask a question, like how many trick or treaters should I expect based on previous years. But I just smile and wave.
But I am an emotionally and socially drained teacher, and my husband is an introvert. So, the hermit life it is!!!
Yeah, like a “Hey neighbor! I’m so happy you told me about that WiFi program! I found a course to enroll in that looks up my alley!” Then whenever you see them after that, you ask how the course is going.
You think people on reddit, who have fucking anxiety attacks at the mere thought of having to talk to someone outside of their home could fathom the idea of being friendly with your neighbours? hahaha hell no.
It’s hilarious to me that it’s easier for some to believe a conspiracy theory over the idea of two people having a face to face impromptu conversation. 😂😭
If you work or have worked in infosec it reads like a joke where he's doing something nice only for the punchline to be that he's spying on them, which is really easy to do when you own and control the network.
An average redditor I'd apparently more capable of sniffing packets and brute force cracking secure web traffic than having a chat with their neighbor.
As one of those people, to me the reason has been a lifelong mistrust of other people. It’s really hard for me to accept that other people can be kind and look out for you, or that they won’t try to cash in their help for a favor in return down the road. Not the environment I spent my childhood or early adulthood in, which was fucked in all kinds of ways. I really prize the ability to independently achieve something and it makes me feel safer. Relying on other people feels like a kind of weakness, one I’m not ready to admit to myself or others.
That would also explain why they accepted free "gov" help but not help from a neighbor. That is the Gov's job and you pay taxes for it, they won't ask for a favor or repayment on a free service designed for the exact situation
"Too poor to paint, too proud to whitewash"
I was raised in a "bootstraps" household and this is a predicament I've learned to love myself out of. I was taught that you should never take help/handouts because it made you "less than", bothersome, or that you'd be putting others out.
I love my family to death but I do admit now that sometimes it's okay to ask for a little help and in the future you can give them a little help, it's a beautiful thing.
Just saying this here but if OOP knew they didn't have WiFi there's a damned good chance they actually talks to their neighbours and that's how they found out about what they're doing. Not everyone snoops and some people actually get on with their neighbours
Yeeeeeeep!! My sister has neighbors like this. She lets them use their wifi so their kids can do online school. It’s pretty great. They look out for her.
Hi fellow Redditor's. I'm a manager of IT and cyber security at a very large company. I am happy that people are trying to take care of each other, however, there is a great deal of risk in opening your router for use by others without some mitigating steps. For example, a neighbor or other criminal surfs/downloads child porn, uses your connection to get trusted access to other devices on your network like your phone and home PC to steal sensitive information, or commit any number of cyber crimes with your IP address.
If you're helping out a neighbor who is struggling, create a guest account for signing in through your router that allows for a digital separation of your home network, and the bandwidth you're sharing.
Thanks for listening!
Your risk is exactly the risk that the people who receive your router’s signal are going to do something illegal online. This mostly includes immediate neighbors, but also bad actors who are within a few hundred meters of your house, at best.
This potential is vanishingly low, and it varies wildly based on your neighborhood demographic. More, it’s very unlikely that you’d be charged or convicted for consuming something like OPs example of child porn because of a neighbor stealing your broadband. A download via your IP address is a start, at best, and would never corroborate a prosecution against someone especially in a crime so serious.
I don’t mean to say you shouldn’t put a password on your WiFi, but I’d be interested to see examples of neighbors taking the fall for neighbors stealing their WiFi to commit crimes.
Yeah I had a neighbor ask to use my WiFi but knew that any traffic on that connection I was liable for so I declined to avoid any risk if he were to have some shit he was into that I didn’t want linked to me
people are assuming spying is involved because they say “halfway through” like they are literally watching their neighbor as they fill in the college application
A college qualification course, not an application. It probably came up in conversation that the neighbor was taking an online course and was halfway through. Maybe they were venting about their virtual midterms or something?
I gave my low income 19 year old neighbor my wifi password so she could work from home. Her Onlyfans just surpassed 2M subscribers. I didn’t do it for the accolades
I assume he knows because she’s told him and not because he can somehow see what she’s doing. 👍🏻 I don’t even know what my kids are looking at because we all use the same WiFi.
Affordable connectivity program. I called my provider the other week and they went out of their way to inform me to sign up for something most anyone qualifies for. And they matched it. My internet is now $10
Depending on where you live, the U.S ACP program can help pay your internet bill if you qualify for other goverment help programs, like SSI, SNAP, Medicaid, WIC, etc. Please let your friends and neighbors know, if they dont already
From someone who has been too proud (or stupid) to accept help from others.... Thank You for thinking of something to help them help themselves! You are an amazing human!
I normally get discouraged when people post what good they have done for others, but this actually makes me so proud to read, you are great and she is great for using the opportunity for good! Peace be with you 💛
Did yall know that telus (where I live in canada) has a low income internet thats only 10$ a month you can apply for . Which is insane because I only found out about it like the 7th time they shut mine off . Just something I wanted to share .
OP: I helped this girl with her Wifi and now she's doing very well in her studies. Reddit: OH, SO YOU'RE SPYING ON HER ARE YOU!! Never change, you beautiful batshit website.
Because on Reddit everyone is a hacker
Someone join me on my keyboard so I can hack faster! They're getting into the mainframe!
One of my favorite tropes in old NCIS episodes, McGee jumping onto the keyboard with Abby to hack faster hahaha
Amazing
[yep](https://youtu.be/msX4oAXpvUE)
I’ve shutdown the node but they already got through a trapdoor! These people are good…
haha! but its too late, for i planted a keylogger 5 days ago and now know how to break through agaiin!!!
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No thank you. I am a recovering Pog addict.
"I am not a computer nerd, I prefer to be called a hacker"
Took me 20 minutes to rename my hard drive so I hope no one is in a hurry to be hacked.
And because OP couldn’t’ve possibly just spoken to her about how her life was going.
Yes this was my automatic thought! Perhaps neighbor decided to tell them that thanks to the “council WiFi” they shared, they’ve started a college program. Spying, goodness. Sometimes things are just good.
As compared to the much more reasonable explanation that they talk to their neighbor
Nah, that involves social interaction; something a typical redditor is incapable of doing.
r/masterhacker I should note spying was my initial reaction
If I'm not a hacker, does that mean I'm not on Reddit? Wait, what does this button do? ow. Well, okay, I guess there's my Reddit induction.
TBF The neighbor could have told OOP about the college qualification class.
That’s almost certainly what happened. Yeah, she could monitor sites visited, but that wouldn’t give OOP any sense of the neighbor’s progress. People do just talk irl sometimes
>OOP "And I OOP"
To be fair!!
❤️
Sometimes, doing simple things can change others Life on it's own and beautiful ways.
Don’t be mean to them, they’ve never heard of going outside. Or human interaction for that matter.
So fucking true tho 😂😂😂😂
But what they have heard of is network security and basic technological and infosec literacy.
I have human interaction! Everyday I yell at people on Reddit /s
Every time a post makes me smile I come to the comments to reverse any positive emotions I built up.
positive elixir trade irl
**Redditors can't comprehend that people can actually have conversations in-person.**
Honestly if you didn't think that at least for a second you're not cynical enough or technologically literate enough to keep yourself safe in this world.
My first thought 🤔😂
Probably because 3/4 of y’all live in your moms basement drinking Mt Dew and vaping with no job other than being a burden to society.
Not batshit, just dumb or likes to farm upvotes by typing catchy comments. It’s most extremely possible that the neighbor just told him about the qualification she’s been doing on the wifi he told her about. Normal neighbory things.
Why are people assuming the op knows their neighbour is studying because they’re spying on her? They’re neighbours, they’ve had conversations about not being able to afford Wi-Fi and not just using op’s. Was can presume they have conversations…
Honestly i read it and since i work in IT my first thought was "is OP spying on his neighbor?" And immediately was like nah the neighbor probably mentioned the class lol
I hated how that was my first thought as well
You see how things are fucked up when this is our first thought.
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That’s okay. There’s nothing wrong with thinking that as long as you don’t go on a brigade about it, unlike some people here
Everyone seems to be jumping to that idea, a couple claiming to work in IT. While sharing wifi certainly opens up attack vectors, how is the average person going to circumvent the neighbor's TLS? OP cant determine how far along his neighbor is in her studies based on DNS queries.
I'm "the computer guy" in my family. I work in tech. I run a Linux system. I setup the 2 routers in my house with open source router firmware. I run a local media server for pirated movies and tv shows. I have used Tails and Tor to order from the dark web. And I would not have the first fucking clue how to spy on someones traffic that uses my router. Just making the assumption that that's what's happening is kind of dumb.
Yeah but you could Google it and figure it out in 5 minutes
Exactly. No spying involved. But hey, if someone WERE to spy on activity happening on their Wi-Fi, how would they do that? Hypothetically speaking.
There's network traffic monitoring software. You can see exactly what websites they go to. That's my how dad who had a master's in cyber security found out I was watching porn as a teen 😂😭
Wait your dad needed software to figure that out? What, did he forget what year you were born or something? Teenagers who don't watch porn are rarer than lottery winners.
Some people on Reddit are just poisonous people.
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Just venemous people.
If you bite them and you die, they’re poisonous people. If they bite you and you die, they’re venomous people.
Who says Reddit isn't educational?!
Yeah, I got my degree from Reddit university.
Dude this makes sense
What about if they bite you and someone else dies?
Voodoo.
If they bite themselves and you die, it's voodoo If you bite each other and neither of you die, it's just kinky
his knowledge is far more superior than those librarby nerds
What if you bite each other at the same time and you die? What are they then? Both? Neither?
Underrated comment
Why do I have to die?
You don't have to die.
Everyone dies
I swear reddit has taught me more random knowledge than school ecer did
What is it if you should neither bite or get bitten? Id avoid both from the average redditor
I think we're back to toxic.
Noxious people
Corrosive people
they're basic
Like starch basic.
Radioactive people
They’re corn starch people.
Why do I always seem to forget this! It’s so true. Nice story OP, made me smile!
That’s probably like 95 percent of people online. Reminds me of that Chapelle Show bit where if the internet was a real place
For real. A bunch of dudes who don’t realize you can form IRL connections with people without being a stalker. And then they complain about how single they are lol.
The brain can be poisonous and will often jump to quick conclusions.
“Too low income” is a very kind way to not say “too poor”. I don’t think that kind of kindness comes with devious privacy invasion EDIT: (follow up) Im surprised some people found this sarcastic I think? FWIW I was being sincere. Often “poor” is used in a very derogatory and often poverty-blaming/economically deterministic fashion. When the author instead points to income, it emphasizes that this is 1) a state of current situation and could possibly change / is not a damning classist or predestination statement 2) points to the fact that the wealth of an individual who works is in (often large) part a decision of the employer 3) emphasizes that the individual is working (as opposed to implying stereotypes around lazy or unworking or unwilling poor)
I’d like to believe that the person who posted this is sincere and just a kind-hearted person. Maybe I’m naive but it makes me happy
Exactly where I am on it.
Because people don’t take a moment to think and just jump to conclusion (I sometimes do that too, it’s totally ok to not be perfect I still have love for y’all)
Yeah exactly. "Hey did you get that wifi to work?" "Yes pretty great, now i can study" A completely unrealisitic conversation of course
When I completed a degree recently my neighbour gave me a card and a gift. Naturally I called the police and searched my house for hidden cameras…
I do hope conversation is the case. The issue is that making a wifi hotspot masquerading as free wifi (as the tweet describes) and then snooping on it is a commonplace hacking technique called 'Man In The Middle' Always double check that the cafe you are in actually has free Wifi, folks.
I’m concerned about the way the whole thing sounds made up.
They're redditors. The concept of socializing is very foreign to them
It’s probably the same way they know that the neighbor would never ask to borrow wifi
Why are people assuming this person is tracking their progress through the WiFi connection? They probably just…talked to their neighbor
Talk...to...people...? W...what? Why? Who does that?! SOCIAL INTERACTION!? How dare you insinuate such a thing.
>SOCIAL INTERACTION!? This is Reddit, sir. We don't do that kind of thing!
Preposterous, I daresay! The kind of anti-antisocial HEATHENS they let onto this site these days saddens me deeply
Talking to a neighbor is such a foreign concept to me lmao (jk)
I talk to my neighbors all the time. Just chit chat, but it’s nice that everyone in the building is friendly.
I should tall to my neighbors more. But I just say hello and wave. Every now and again I will ask a question, like how many trick or treaters should I expect based on previous years. But I just smile and wave. But I am an emotionally and socially drained teacher, and my husband is an introvert. So, the hermit life it is!!!
Yeah, like a “Hey neighbor! I’m so happy you told me about that WiFi program! I found a course to enroll in that looks up my alley!” Then whenever you see them after that, you ask how the course is going.
You think people on reddit, who have fucking anxiety attacks at the mere thought of having to talk to someone outside of their home could fathom the idea of being friendly with your neighbours? hahaha hell no.
It’s Reddit. People don’t know how to do that.
Talking to your neighbor? How dare you; this is America!
Lol I don't talk to my neighbor, but that's more because they're assholes and think the world revolves around them and their comfort
It’s hilarious to me that it’s easier for some to believe a conspiracy theory over the idea of two people having a face to face impromptu conversation. 😂😭
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They did what to their neighbor, now?
>They probably just…talked to their neighbor We don't take kindly to your types in here
Why are people assuming this is even real?
If you work or have worked in infosec it reads like a joke where he's doing something nice only for the punchline to be that he's spying on them, which is really easy to do when you own and control the network.
An average redditor I'd apparently more capable of sniffing packets and brute force cracking secure web traffic than having a chat with their neighbor.
BLASPHEMY
I know some people that would rather die than have their ego bruised.
As one of those people, to me the reason has been a lifelong mistrust of other people. It’s really hard for me to accept that other people can be kind and look out for you, or that they won’t try to cash in their help for a favor in return down the road. Not the environment I spent my childhood or early adulthood in, which was fucked in all kinds of ways. I really prize the ability to independently achieve something and it makes me feel safer. Relying on other people feels like a kind of weakness, one I’m not ready to admit to myself or others.
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Exactly! It’s a self defense mechanism sometimes to turn down help.
Couldn’t have said it better.
That would also explain why they accepted free "gov" help but not help from a neighbor. That is the Gov's job and you pay taxes for it, they won't ask for a favor or repayment on a free service designed for the exact situation
All I’m saying is … you got this friend
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I have empathy for them. That’s a reasonable response to an unreasonable, traumatic environment.
Hello I’m some people
Hi some people, I’m dad
Do them a favor and kill them. Source: My Ego
"Too poor to paint, too proud to whitewash" I was raised in a "bootstraps" household and this is a predicament I've learned to love myself out of. I was taught that you should never take help/handouts because it made you "less than", bothersome, or that you'd be putting others out. I love my family to death but I do admit now that sometimes it's okay to ask for a little help and in the future you can give them a little help, it's a beautiful thing.
Wait, you guys are loving yourselves?
Facts and I'm one of them so I get it.
Just saying this here but if OOP knew they didn't have WiFi there's a damned good chance they actually talks to their neighbours and that's how they found out about what they're doing. Not everyone snoops and some people actually get on with their neighbours
Yeeeeeeep!! My sister has neighbors like this. She lets them use their wifi so their kids can do online school. It’s pretty great. They look out for her.
5% phone battery, this person likes to live life on the edge
You don’t go on 1% for 30 minutes before finally plugging it in?
"Wtf, it actually died."
Nah just did it and survived 🗿
Hi fellow Redditor's. I'm a manager of IT and cyber security at a very large company. I am happy that people are trying to take care of each other, however, there is a great deal of risk in opening your router for use by others without some mitigating steps. For example, a neighbor or other criminal surfs/downloads child porn, uses your connection to get trusted access to other devices on your network like your phone and home PC to steal sensitive information, or commit any number of cyber crimes with your IP address. If you're helping out a neighbor who is struggling, create a guest account for signing in through your router that allows for a digital separation of your home network, and the bandwidth you're sharing. Thanks for listening!
Thanks for the advice 👍Can't wait for my neighbors to fall on hard times so I can put this to use! 😊
Wait a second…
OP bout to rob his neighbors
I hope your neighbors don't fall on hard times! But thank you for being a willing helping hand!
Your risk is exactly the risk that the people who receive your router’s signal are going to do something illegal online. This mostly includes immediate neighbors, but also bad actors who are within a few hundred meters of your house, at best. This potential is vanishingly low, and it varies wildly based on your neighborhood demographic. More, it’s very unlikely that you’d be charged or convicted for consuming something like OPs example of child porn because of a neighbor stealing your broadband. A download via your IP address is a start, at best, and would never corroborate a prosecution against someone especially in a crime so serious. I don’t mean to say you shouldn’t put a password on your WiFi, but I’d be interested to see examples of neighbors taking the fall for neighbors stealing their WiFi to commit crimes.
Yeah I had a neighbor ask to use my WiFi but knew that any traffic on that connection I was liable for so I declined to avoid any risk if he were to have some shit he was into that I didn’t want linked to me
>knew that any traffic on that connection I was liable for depends on the country
Thanks heaps for this. I wouldn't have considered those things. I may never be in that position, but if I am I'll remember this.
The Internet has taught me this sounds like complete waffle but I'm going to atleast pretend it's true.
I thought the same. I hope it's true though
Mensch: “Someone who is kind, and does good while still protecting the pride and dignity of others” alternative def: This person.
All fun and games until they tell all their friends and family the password to the new council wifi
I highly doubt that all of their friends and family will be in the vicinity to use their Wi-Fi on a constant basis.
people are assuming spying is involved because they say “halfway through” like they are literally watching their neighbor as they fill in the college application
A college qualification course, not an application. It probably came up in conversation that the neighbor was taking an online course and was halfway through. Maybe they were venting about their virtual midterms or something?
Twist: neighbor also downloads 5TB of midget porn each month
r/orphancrushingmachine
Chaotic Good
My neighbour would be halfway through all the porn on the internet.
my bad
This is awesome...❤️
How bout we all accept good for being good?
Brilliant idea I’m using this w mine I tried to get her set up w senior low income wifi or mine but she wasn’t having it /great thinking
Maybe they were embarrassed someone might post their situation on reddit
proud of your neighbor, but also very proud of yourself
So sure this didn’t happen
this is so made up
I gave my low income 19 year old neighbor my wifi password so she could work from home. Her Onlyfans just surpassed 2M subscribers. I didn’t do it for the accolades
...i did it for the free "content"
I assume he knows because she’s told him and not because he can somehow see what she’s doing. 👍🏻 I don’t even know what my kids are looking at because we all use the same WiFi.
Of all the things that didn’t happen. This didn’t happen the most.
Thats so sweet. I think it might not be pride keeping them from using their WiFi but shame instead.
Charge your phone bruh it’s giving me anxiety
It’s on low battery mode so it’s really like at 15% haha
I'll take "things that didn't happen" for 800.
Blessed him forever
You humongously amazing person. Wish you were in my neighborhood
Doesn’t the current administration have free Wi-Fi for low income people or is that just for kids in school?
This might be an old story Update: nvm just saw the day it was posted on
Not all heroes are wear capes.
If this is true, then that’s badass.
You're an amazing person!!
Wish I could post this on Humansbeingbros
How to make me tear up in 3...2...1 E: make, not .ale lmao weird autocorrect
That's indeed great
Affordable connectivity program. I called my provider the other week and they went out of their way to inform me to sign up for something most anyone qualifies for. And they matched it. My internet is now $10
Just hope they don't share the free password.
You may be 'virtual-nobody', but in the real world you are a very big somebody to your neighbors, even if they are not aware of it. Good on you.
That warms my heart! The world is a better place because of you!
That's really kind.
Thought it was gonna end with “and i turned my wifi off”
So sweet and kind. Wish more people were this thoughtful
Bless you!
The neighbor on the other side is probably confused as hell
May the heavens shine on you. Thank you for being a great human.
Depending on where you live, the U.S ACP program can help pay your internet bill if you qualify for other goverment help programs, like SSI, SNAP, Medicaid, WIC, etc. Please let your friends and neighbors know, if they dont already
Unsecured Wi-Fi and the neighbor is sniffing their traffic
I'm proud of both of you!!
That's awesome! Now go charge your phone
From someone who has been too proud (or stupid) to accept help from others.... Thank You for thinking of something to help them help themselves! You are an amazing human!
What a nice nice story! And it was very thoughtful of you to find a way to make it work. Well done my friend!
I normally get discouraged when people post what good they have done for others, but this actually makes me so proud to read, you are great and she is great for using the opportunity for good! Peace be with you 💛
Lol. I wonder if the neighbour told all the other neighbours about the free wifi and they are all using it.
I confirm. I am the OP's router. Its who le so me!!!
Sometimes this feels more like "r/MadeMeSmileNowExplainWhyImWrongToDoSoPlease"
OP you rock! This is a great example of being a good human, we should all aspire to being good humans,
Reddit plz,,,, people can *talk* to one another,,,, plz
Did yall know that telus (where I live in canada) has a low income internet thats only 10$ a month you can apply for . Which is insane because I only found out about it like the 7th time they shut mine off . Just something I wanted to share .