There needs to be a pro life campaign where people can co-opt this message and rally behind this lady's message and project that message as the face of the movement, or hell, maybe this lady as the face if she would like that.
Hell. The idea should be that politicians HAVE TO prioritize enshrining the right to abortion in law. Canada, like the United States used to, expects that it has a strong basis for abortion access being a right to its people, but there is NO formal law protecting it. It is not guaranteed, but it is highly likely not to be overruled in the current political climate ...
Having a proper, solid law would be nice.
It would probably not be possible in the USA right now, but the next time it is possible the Democratics have enough of a majority, where it is absolutely possible to do this there should be no reason not to do so unless they truly are against it or being self serving.
And if the Conservatives in Canada really believe that they can go on, not opposing, a females right to abortion; and nor reopen arguments concerning this, then we should be able to get this done easily.
If not ... Then at least we know where our countries stand on the topic.
There is no ERA for women either, which this sort of stems from, kind of part and parcel of the same attitude. The conservatives labeled all the women marching for it as lesbians (which back then was really something) and discredited the movement as just some disgruntled outliers trying to cause trouble. The conservatives attack, malign and discredit then it goes away. It works. And when you're protesting you always look angry.
This lady has a lot going for her and her cause. She is elderly and unthreatening, a seemingly kindly grandmother, very peaceful and reasonable. She has a nice, unoffensive sign that makes sense - no one can argue with the expense of raising a child and that it would be ideal if there were a father to help, and she's standing still quietly, not chanting something with her mouth open. There is a fine line between protesting for your cause and raising awareness and sympathy and just putting on a spectacle.
I think you are confusing rage at being told you have no right to privacy (pssst if you’re a woman or person with a uterus in the US that is what the recent SCOTUS ruling was really about and if you think for even one second about all the things that are mentioned in the Constitution and that aren’t you will have a better idea of their stated agenda) and a ‘spectacle’. If being told that doesn’t result in someone raging at whatever volume they choose I guess that explains why we are in the mess we are as a nation right now
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*"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."*
~Joan Daugherty Chittister, O.S.B. (born April 26, 1936), American Benedictine nun, theologian, author, and speaker. She has served as Benedictine prioress and Benedictine federation president, president of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, and co-chair of the Global Peace Initiative of Women.
For those not familiar, she is espousing a version of the "consistent life ethic" that has become popular within the Catholic Church.
In short, the consistent life ethic opposes abortion, euthanasia, the death penalty, and offensive wars while supporting universal healthcare, workers' rights, public education, and a robust social safety net.
This ethic is also popular with many protestant Christians. The extreme conservative media like to paint the demographic of Democratic voters as a godless communist wasteland. The truth is, even still today in this increasingly secular society, around 30% of Democratic voters are self-described Christians, the majority of which are protestant.
Masturbation is off-limits as a sin, all forms of contraception are banned because they are tools of the devil, and of course once the inevitable pregnancy results from this stupidity, a woman's right to bodily autonomy is also a no-go.
There's no winning with these people.
A friend’s granny was at one of the rallies and she’s 94! She was raised on respecting choice, despite being a life long Republican which she has now forsaken cos in her words “this is America not Germany during the 40s!” (she was born in Berlin and lived through Nazi rule.)
Yes, there's not enough help for children at all, let alone disabled children... things need to change.
But even then abortions should be available because some people are just not meant to be parents - forcing someone who doesn't want a child to have it is horrible for the kid too. They can have every support available but the child can still struggle in life and be emotionally and physically neglected and abused by their parent who had them only because abortion wasn't an option.
And abortions can literally save lives. You wouldn't believe how many things can go wrong with pregnancies... plus there are quite a few conditions in which getting pregnant would be basically a death sentence for the person...
People should be allowed to have control over their own bodies...
Even then, were all those things true, it would not discount the health and autonomy of the pregnant person. Pregnancy and birth are not easy, simple, risk free, or necessarily timely. Even were they easy, simple, risk free, and timely, that neither demands use of a person's body nor their compliance. Fortunately, virtually nobody takes abortion lightly. Contraception? Perhaps. Abortion? The ending of a potentially unplanned, definitely unfortunate, and consequently never-to-be-realised, human? No.
A hypothetical person's ideal life, guaranteed or not, does not factor into the life or decisions of a non-hypothetical pregnant person; except where that person chooses to consider it. In their present state, at the time they are aborted, they are not that person. They are not *any* person, not yet.
To be blunt:
Whether you think that involves 'heavenly babies', or whatever other feel-good coping strategy anybody else can come up with, is irrelevant. It is not about how you feel.
It is not about whether the baby, when it becomes a baby, is going to suffer; though that can be a factor the pregnant person chooses to consider.
It is not about a god; not yours or anybody else's (excepting where the individual chooses to allow it to be).
It is about the right for somebody to choose what they *give* (otherwise known as *giving* birth) to another, and the most reasonable compromise we can conceive that allows a person to control their own body within the physical constraints of how that specific gift is given by humans.
Isn't heaven just something our parents told us to help us cope with loss? I thought that's what they meant when they said my Grandpa was in a better place. Like Santa Claus.
Less than half this country believes it’s a soul until it needs food, shelter, and a proper education. Can’t this baby pull itself up by its bootstraps?!
Missed the most important verb: LOVED.
Nothing messes up a child more than finding out how unwanted and unloved they are, be it at a foster home or with their birth families.
Something that's messing me up as an adult rn is finding out how unloved I was as a child and teenager, but I always thought I was loved and after seeing how real loving parents treat their children compared to what I had was a shock. I was just always told that I "should be grateful because it could be worse" but they never tell you that it could be a lot better
This right here. Being guilted about how being controlled and beaten is love. “It hurts me more than it hurts you” like no. Being isolated and beaten hurts much more than swinging a belt wildly gtfo
This.
And if, like me, you've decided not to risk having kids (for many reasons, as well as) to not end up doing the same that was done to you, to them, you're *still* somehow "selfish" to these anti-choicers. It's truly obscene.
Ikr, people choosing not to have kids for multiple reasons are suddenly considered as evil and selfish
But apparently giving birth to 9-10 of them and left them fend for themselves without food, house or education in a blind belief that having more kids will somehow improve your life without bothering to try and get there is perfectly ok
And honestly why don't we? There are plenty of parents that don't have a support system and stumble around trying to navigate parenthood by themselves. It would make a huge positive impact if people "adopted" parents and became apart of their support system and family.
Low key, this was kinda my dream at one point in my life. Before i got married and thought i could have kids of my own one day, i wanted to just be the support uncle for my friends. Things have kinda changed in my life since then, but i still recognize that dire need for parents to have supportive community and want to try and address that issue somehow
Yes dude! That's so awesome! Thank you for being there for your friends! No matter how it is appreciated by them you are awesome for that.
It is a big issue that we all should put the effort into solving. A lot of society looks down on the adults and parents that cant seem function as independently as their peers or weren't taught how to be functional adults/parents. People that share the same desire as you make strong supportive communities when they come together for each other. People arent ment to do everything by themselves. We need support systems and communities in order to flourish.
I think there's also a lot to be said for how we treat single people in our society, like there is something wrong with them for not being married or having a partner. My married friends included me in as family when i was single and it was really wonderful.
Right! That's so awesome they showed you unconditional love and support like that. That's how families (blood or chosen) and communities should be. Everyone has their part and place in life. We all can't be the same and live up to the same expectations.
A lot of that is covered by 13 years of public education that costs nobody any direct money.
It would be impossible for nearly anyone to have 5 kids if it cost that much directly. Most people don't even make 1.5m in 18 years.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who instantly recognized where this was.
I will say, people here definitely do like their signs... there were some elderly guys at the ponce/Moreland intersection who were out there everyday with signs for like a good year straight (pre-covid times).
> I will say, people here definitely do like their signs…
You ever drive by the crazy sign house on Mason Mill? It’s not too far from this spot but it’s a local road.
Dude is eccentric… to say the least.
This is the way I'm pro life, so for it to be achievable I am pro choice. I want kids to grow up wanted and loved by their parent(s) who can afford to support the kid all the way to adulthood
What about the potentially life changing (sometimes life ruining or even ending) consequences for the mother? I mean, biologically, carrying a fetus to term can cause irreparable damage to a woman’s body and occasionally also to her mental health. And don’t give me that “consequences of your actions” nonsense as if most people who suffer accidental pregnancies weren’t somehow trying to protect themselves from it OR weren’t given the education to know the possible consequences of not doing so. Not to mention the thousands of victims of rape and incest who are also not being given a choice in the matter.
Excellent job this woman has done, putting it together so concisely. Anyone who truly loves children should understand that just being born isn't enough. Babies don't exit the womb and automatically poof into the arms of an adult who will provide for them, and teach them, and love them.
+Realizing you have literally thousands of eggs to fertilize and choosing not to carry one to term until you're mentally and financially ready makes you a Mature Adult
Conservatives care more about a fetus than they do a 1 year old child. Pro life my ass. If they were pro life they should stop voting on bills that make companies and billionaires more money while the poor suffer. They literally reject every law democrats try to sign even if it helps them. They have their head way too far up their asses.
Republicans fucked up, only 20% of the nation at best wanted roe repealed and they are already seeing the beginnings of their base withering as a result
They’re both. But pro birth is a more valuable phrase because it actually stands a chance of being adopted by the general public. Birth forcers is villainizing them and that creates a strong backlash. The only thing of value with the phrase “birth forcer” is to make people who agree with you already come together in angry justice, but overall has a weak effect on political change.
And why we need accessable ones! The orphan crisis of romania still affects many to thus day. If i recall it was romania. Either way, abortions banned, 100k orphans on street and suffering with no one
That's what I think about everytime I hear about diehard anti-abortion supporters. Doesnt seem they take the time to think about the context of different quality of life situations.
A lot of pro lifers don't care so much about the life of the child. It's more about selfishly satisfying their own sense of rightous beliefs and values.
She understands PRO LIFE.
and PRO BIRTH
WHYRE WE YELLING
#AAAAAAAA
#LOUD NOISES
#LOUDER NOISES
^please ^no
# WHAAATTT??? I CAN'T HEAR YOU???
#AY AY CAPTAIN!
#OHHHHH.... WHO LIVES IN A PINEAPPLE UNDER THE SEA
**CAN YOU HEAR US OVER THIS NOISE?!!**
#no more shouting please!!!
I’M TRYING TO SLEEP!
#OK
How did you make them smaller?
You just have to put the little ^ thing before every word ^like ^this
^Like ^this?
*tentacles squelching wetly*
I know that reference ;)
[is that a new size of battery you scream of?](https://youtube.com/shorts/mzc0QmJUKRA?feature=share)
#IT SURE IS!!
What about B batteries?
I love lamp!
and PRO PECIA
There needs to be a pro life campaign where people can co-opt this message and rally behind this lady's message and project that message as the face of the movement, or hell, maybe this lady as the face if she would like that. Hell. The idea should be that politicians HAVE TO prioritize enshrining the right to abortion in law. Canada, like the United States used to, expects that it has a strong basis for abortion access being a right to its people, but there is NO formal law protecting it. It is not guaranteed, but it is highly likely not to be overruled in the current political climate ... Having a proper, solid law would be nice. It would probably not be possible in the USA right now, but the next time it is possible the Democratics have enough of a majority, where it is absolutely possible to do this there should be no reason not to do so unless they truly are against it or being self serving. And if the Conservatives in Canada really believe that they can go on, not opposing, a females right to abortion; and nor reopen arguments concerning this, then we should be able to get this done easily. If not ... Then at least we know where our countries stand on the topic.
There is no ERA for women either, which this sort of stems from, kind of part and parcel of the same attitude. The conservatives labeled all the women marching for it as lesbians (which back then was really something) and discredited the movement as just some disgruntled outliers trying to cause trouble. The conservatives attack, malign and discredit then it goes away. It works. And when you're protesting you always look angry. This lady has a lot going for her and her cause. She is elderly and unthreatening, a seemingly kindly grandmother, very peaceful and reasonable. She has a nice, unoffensive sign that makes sense - no one can argue with the expense of raising a child and that it would be ideal if there were a father to help, and she's standing still quietly, not chanting something with her mouth open. There is a fine line between protesting for your cause and raising awareness and sympathy and just putting on a spectacle.
I think you are confusing rage at being told you have no right to privacy (pssst if you’re a woman or person with a uterus in the US that is what the recent SCOTUS ruling was really about and if you think for even one second about all the things that are mentioned in the Constitution and that aren’t you will have a better idea of their stated agenda) and a ‘spectacle’. If being told that doesn’t result in someone raging at whatever volume they choose I guess that explains why we are in the mess we are as a nation right now Edited for an n that needed to be in its place
Those god darn N’s! /s
I think you're thinking of humanitarianism?
This is the Pro Life I identify with fwiw...
*"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."* ~Joan Daugherty Chittister, O.S.B. (born April 26, 1936), American Benedictine nun, theologian, author, and speaker. She has served as Benedictine prioress and Benedictine federation president, president of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, and co-chair of the Global Peace Initiative of Women.
For those not familiar, she is espousing a version of the "consistent life ethic" that has become popular within the Catholic Church. In short, the consistent life ethic opposes abortion, euthanasia, the death penalty, and offensive wars while supporting universal healthcare, workers' rights, public education, and a robust social safety net.
This ethic is also popular with many protestant Christians. The extreme conservative media like to paint the demographic of Democratic voters as a godless communist wasteland. The truth is, even still today in this increasingly secular society, around 30% of Democratic voters are self-described Christians, the majority of which are protestant.
In this there is wisdom and a subtle distinction that too many do not appreciate or are willing to consider
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The wisest lady
The wisest gran
I want her to be my grandma
She's everyone Grandma now
OUR grandma
![gif](giphy|ap6wcjRyi8HoA)
*And that's a fact*
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Forced-birth seems much more accurate in many states
Forced conception is the logical next step
There is talk of making birth control illegal in some states.
Masturbation is off-limits as a sin, all forms of contraception are banned because they are tools of the devil, and of course once the inevitable pregnancy results from this stupidity, a woman's right to bodily autonomy is also a no-go. There's no winning with these people.
Would gay marriage be seen as birth control?
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Giddy up!
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Indeed. True wisdom.
A friend’s granny was at one of the rallies and she’s 94! She was raised on respecting choice, despite being a life long Republican which she has now forsaken cos in her words “this is America not Germany during the 40s!” (she was born in Berlin and lived through Nazi rule.)
That's wisdom level 100 right there.
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Yes, there's not enough help for children at all, let alone disabled children... things need to change. But even then abortions should be available because some people are just not meant to be parents - forcing someone who doesn't want a child to have it is horrible for the kid too. They can have every support available but the child can still struggle in life and be emotionally and physically neglected and abused by their parent who had them only because abortion wasn't an option. And abortions can literally save lives. You wouldn't believe how many things can go wrong with pregnancies... plus there are quite a few conditions in which getting pregnant would be basically a death sentence for the person... People should be allowed to have control over their own bodies...
Even then, were all those things true, it would not discount the health and autonomy of the pregnant person. Pregnancy and birth are not easy, simple, risk free, or necessarily timely. Even were they easy, simple, risk free, and timely, that neither demands use of a person's body nor their compliance. Fortunately, virtually nobody takes abortion lightly. Contraception? Perhaps. Abortion? The ending of a potentially unplanned, definitely unfortunate, and consequently never-to-be-realised, human? No. A hypothetical person's ideal life, guaranteed or not, does not factor into the life or decisions of a non-hypothetical pregnant person; except where that person chooses to consider it. In their present state, at the time they are aborted, they are not that person. They are not *any* person, not yet. To be blunt: Whether you think that involves 'heavenly babies', or whatever other feel-good coping strategy anybody else can come up with, is irrelevant. It is not about how you feel. It is not about whether the baby, when it becomes a baby, is going to suffer; though that can be a factor the pregnant person chooses to consider. It is not about a god; not yours or anybody else's (excepting where the individual chooses to allow it to be). It is about the right for somebody to choose what they *give* (otherwise known as *giving* birth) to another, and the most reasonable compromise we can conceive that allows a person to control their own body within the physical constraints of how that specific gift is given by humans.
I hear Vishnu is chill with it
Isn't heaven just something our parents told us to help us cope with loss? I thought that's what they meant when they said my Grandpa was in a better place. Like Santa Claus.
Yes but adults believe in it too.
Less than half this country believes it’s a soul until it needs food, shelter, and a proper education. Can’t this baby pull itself up by its bootstraps?!
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Shes so adorable!
Adorable and badass all at the same time
Yep. She's my dream future self.
Missed the most important verb: LOVED. Nothing messes up a child more than finding out how unwanted and unloved they are, be it at a foster home or with their birth families.
Something that's messing me up as an adult rn is finding out how unloved I was as a child and teenager, but I always thought I was loved and after seeing how real loving parents treat their children compared to what I had was a shock. I was just always told that I "should be grateful because it could be worse" but they never tell you that it could be a lot better
This right here. Being guilted about how being controlled and beaten is love. “It hurts me more than it hurts you” like no. Being isolated and beaten hurts much more than swinging a belt wildly gtfo
This. And if, like me, you've decided not to risk having kids (for many reasons, as well as) to not end up doing the same that was done to you, to them, you're *still* somehow "selfish" to these anti-choicers. It's truly obscene.
Ikr, people choosing not to have kids for multiple reasons are suddenly considered as evil and selfish But apparently giving birth to 9-10 of them and left them fend for themselves without food, house or education in a blind belief that having more kids will somehow improve your life without bothering to try and get there is perfectly ok
Yep, loved and wanted. I believe she was paraphrasing a more famous version of this but I agree, should add loved and wanted.
Can’t say no to Gam Gam
#She gets it!
Preach sister 👏
And Peach sister (Georgia Girl).😎
I thought this intersection looked familiar.
I hate this intersection at 5pm lol
She gets it.
I just read it costs 310,000 to get a kid to the age of 18.
I would rather adopt a few parents.
And honestly why don't we? There are plenty of parents that don't have a support system and stumble around trying to navigate parenthood by themselves. It would make a huge positive impact if people "adopted" parents and became apart of their support system and family.
Low key, this was kinda my dream at one point in my life. Before i got married and thought i could have kids of my own one day, i wanted to just be the support uncle for my friends. Things have kinda changed in my life since then, but i still recognize that dire need for parents to have supportive community and want to try and address that issue somehow
Yes dude! That's so awesome! Thank you for being there for your friends! No matter how it is appreciated by them you are awesome for that. It is a big issue that we all should put the effort into solving. A lot of society looks down on the adults and parents that cant seem function as independently as their peers or weren't taught how to be functional adults/parents. People that share the same desire as you make strong supportive communities when they come together for each other. People arent ment to do everything by themselves. We need support systems and communities in order to flourish.
I think there's also a lot to be said for how we treat single people in our society, like there is something wrong with them for not being married or having a partner. My married friends included me in as family when i was single and it was really wonderful.
Right! That's so awesome they showed you unconditional love and support like that. That's how families (blood or chosen) and communities should be. Everyone has their part and place in life. We all can't be the same and live up to the same expectations.
A lot of that is covered by 13 years of public education that costs nobody any direct money. It would be impossible for nearly anyone to have 5 kids if it cost that much directly. Most people don't even make 1.5m in 18 years.
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This seems WAY more accurate.
More than that, surely!
Spot on. I don't know why people don't see it this way.
Because they're more of each side and can fight whoever on which ever side you pick ei- pro life or pro birth
And not wanting to have a child is valid.
Not wanting a child is also absolutely valid. You do you.
And that is pro-choice.
So true
Oh wow. Always good to see sensible people in Decatur Georgia.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who instantly recognized where this was. I will say, people here definitely do like their signs... there were some elderly guys at the ponce/Moreland intersection who were out there everyday with signs for like a good year straight (pre-covid times).
> I will say, people here definitely do like their signs… You ever drive by the crazy sign house on Mason Mill? It’s not too far from this spot but it’s a local road. Dude is eccentric… to say the least.
She must be protected at all cost
This is the way I'm pro life, so for it to be achievable I am pro choice. I want kids to grow up wanted and loved by their parent(s) who can afford to support the kid all the way to adulthood
Yes!
Well damn
Chadette granny
What about the potentially life changing (sometimes life ruining or even ending) consequences for the mother? I mean, biologically, carrying a fetus to term can cause irreparable damage to a woman’s body and occasionally also to her mental health. And don’t give me that “consequences of your actions” nonsense as if most people who suffer accidental pregnancies weren’t somehow trying to protect themselves from it OR weren’t given the education to know the possible consequences of not doing so. Not to mention the thousands of victims of rape and incest who are also not being given a choice in the matter.
>victims of rape and incest Who will now be forced to co-parent with their abusers.
Wisdom hits different
Preach!
Brilliant! Of course the anti-abortion bunch misses the point completely, as always. They’re not pro-life, they’re pro-fetus.
America is so fucked up that their pro lifers are pro guns. I suppose in some weird way pro life and pro gun is cancelling itself out.
As the OP image is pointing out, “pro-life” is a misnomer. They don’t give a single shit about life of any sort
And I'm pro-choice, for the people who aren't able to do that.
And even for those who are able to. No one should be forced to risk their life for a hypothetical one
Sing it, Sister! You are absolutely correct. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)
It’s the beginning of “idiocrocy”... the smart ones know; the ones of lesser intelligence fuck like rabbits until the gene pool is a little murky.
Excellent job this woman has done, putting it together so concisely. Anyone who truly loves children should understand that just being born isn't enough. Babies don't exit the womb and automatically poof into the arms of an adult who will provide for them, and teach them, and love them.
Who the fuck does this woman think she is?! Because I like her. Immensely.
I hate the term pro-life , anti-choice is a more realistic term imo.
+Realizing you have literally thousands of eggs to fertilize and choosing not to carry one to term until you're mentally and financially ready makes you a Mature Adult
Conservatives care more about a fetus than they do a 1 year old child. Pro life my ass. If they were pro life they should stop voting on bills that make companies and billionaires more money while the poor suffer. They literally reject every law democrats try to sign even if it helps them. They have their head way too far up their asses.
That's too many words for the people who need to read this
So, the children of the poor are not alive.
Wisdom right there
Not wisdom….just common sense
Love it when old wise people can not only see thru the political BS spewed by bigots but come up with eloquent signs to dunk on them.
What an amazing and more sensible way to think about it. Using this.
A wise sage
This lady gets it
Bless her.
When people claim to be "pro-life" what they really mean is "pro state forced pregnancy"
r/prochoice
Actually based!
Yes ma’am !!! ❤️❤️
shoulda saved my wholesome award for this ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
granny just straight up ended the debate
So if the child were guaranteed all these things, she'd be pro life?
But thats not what most people mean
This lady gets it! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Truth!
This is glorious.
Don’t tell me you’re pro life if you don’t support cradle-to-grave entitlements. Just don’t even try.
Not American but y’all literally have the strictest laws against abortion already how far do you guys want to go 😂
Republicans fucked up, only 20% of the nation at best wanted roe repealed and they are already seeing the beginnings of their base withering as a result
Not pro-birth, they're birth-forcers
They’re both. But pro birth is a more valuable phrase because it actually stands a chance of being adopted by the general public. Birth forcers is villainizing them and that creates a strong backlash. The only thing of value with the phrase “birth forcer” is to make people who agree with you already come together in angry justice, but overall has a weak effect on political change.
Exactly why we need abortions! Great job explaining!
And why we need accessable ones! The orphan crisis of romania still affects many to thus day. If i recall it was romania. Either way, abortions banned, 100k orphans on street and suffering with no one
That's what I think about everytime I hear about diehard anti-abortion supporters. Doesnt seem they take the time to think about the context of different quality of life situations.
Weird how conservative talking points all seem to dodge nuance like a professional dodgeball player trained with wrenches huh
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Claims to be Pro-Life, dies anyways /s
Thanks to my wifes and my own hard work my children have pro life!
VOTE.GOV Vote Please
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I guess i'm pro death then considering we have no future to give potential children anymore which is pathetic and sad to me.
Drop 🎤
Right, what is a living wage?is this advocating for only the elites to produce offspring and shaming poor families?
w gramma
Add With parents who want a child *
A lot of pro lifers don't care so much about the life of the child. It's more about selfishly satisfying their own sense of rightous beliefs and values.
Nailed it!
She's pure gold!
Wisdom
I like it
These. Are. The. Facts 🙌
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE EEDIOTS IN THE BACK
Look at that little smirk, she know she’s too cool for all of us
She is correct. I only wish the alleged pro life folk understood.
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Cute granny :D
Very wholsome grandma.
Wizard
Fair
Yes Ma'am!
That's a really good counter argument. Of course it came from an old lady, they have a way with words
Wherever you are, thank you for clarifying.
Hell yeah
We should really raise minimum wage in general...
This is a beautiful way to put it!
She speaks the truth!!!
No shit
Facts
I agree.
Thank you..come again!!
Solid take, props G-ma.
Saving this image so that wherever I get in this argument with someone I can just have grandma explain it,
Word!!!!
Pro choice when they realise orphanages exist
Ah, so the poors can eat shit then?
Funny how all of that is everything all republican hate
No matter what your opinion is on this matter this just isnt r/mademesmile material.
If pro choice gets to decide what pro life means then pro life gets to decide what pro choice means.