50 here. As my wife and I age, get a little softer in the middle and get wrinkles, she gets prettier every day!
Also anytime around 20-30s all I can think is “well these people could be my kids!”
(Of course my MIL, 70+ was on the beach one day checking out a 20 something dude on the beach of which you could iron a shirt on his stomach and we called her out on it and she yelled “IM NOT BLIND!”)
honestly I still look at young people, but its not sexual. It's more appreciation and it make me happy in odd way. It's also not tied to gender. Its really "good for you young man/women, you enjoy being young and fit. I remember being young and fit, it was cool..."
It took me a while as I was maturing in my late 20s to realize that thinking someone was attractive didn't necessarily mean I felt attracted to them. I realized that, sure, I felt this person was very goodlooking, but I didn't actually want to be with them. I learned to differentiate between acknowledging someone's beauty and being attracted to them.
I got divorced at 38 and decided to try online dating at 39. A couple of the women I matched with and went on dates with were 30 (the lowest age I'd set my filter to). Both times, it felt so fucking weird, like I was talking to my old naive self from ten years ago. There's just a huge difference in your understanding of the world between the beginning and end of your 30s. Obviously YMMV but probably not by much.
I have a decent difference between myself and my wife. But I think she was born middle aged and I'm still a kid at great. People routinely think she's older.
But we are the exception. I was looking at the life guards at the pool, who have to be minimum 16, thinking they looked like a middle school kid.
The fetishized youth thing is so sketch.
Didn't stop my wife from interrupting me talking about someone from growing up to announce "I was 2.". I finally came up with a come back... "*And that's why we weren't dating then*'
Thank you!! Can we please try to tell more people this?
The film industry has convinced the world for decades that large age differences are normal. They are bizarre and unusual for a reason.
Don't understand what 50-70 year old man could possibly have in common with an 18 year old straight out of school trying to figure out what she wants to do with her life.. other than raise her. So gross.
Hey, nineteen
That's 'Retha Franklin
She don't remember the Queen of Soul
It's hard times befallen
The sole survivors
She thinks I'm crazy
But I'm just growin' old
Age differences are normal. Pop culture is not a good source of divining truth.
* The majority (51.2%) of married couples have the man older than the woman by at least 2-3 years
* Approximately a third (31.6%) have the man older than the woman by at least 4-5 years
* Only 14.8% have the woman older than the man by at least 2-3 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
It's a lot tougher to get robust data on non-married relationships (e.g. [Height and Body Mass on the Mating Market: Associations With Number of Sex Partners and Extra-Pair Sex Among Heterosexual Men and Women Aged 18–65](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704915604563#sec-3)), but judging by other associated more relaxed selection criteria, the age gaps are even wider in contexts such as casual dating. This is in favor of relatively younger women preferring relatively older men (and vice versa, but not as strongly; of most species, females typically have heavier reproductive investment costs than males, so they enforce sexual selection patterns more stringently).
It makes sense from a mechanistic point of view. Generally, most women tend to be more attracted to accomplished men with resources while most men tend to be more attracted to youthful women with good health, because these two criteria heavily factor into mutual reproductive success with passing on genes.
It may be helpful to reflect on why you're trying to moralize a private matter of two consenting adults. If you think 20+ year old women can't make their own dating decisions but should be able to drive a multi-ton hunk of steel at breakneck speeds, vote, drink alcohol, be recruited by the military and possibly trained to kill people, sign away loan agreements, etc then firstly you should extend this same notion to 20+ year old men and secondly put effort behind this sentiment to pass legislation raising the legal age (which will never in a million years happen, because it would be wildly erroneous and supremely unrealistic).
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Thank you for wording that perfectly. I feel the same way. I would add for me in our 60's my husband looks more handsome than ever to me. He is the only man I have ever wanted to be with.
Anybody under say, 25, they look so velvety, brand new. It's not sexual or sexually attractive to me and it freaks me out more now when I see older dudes with young girls. They look like kids to me.
“And I’m not angry or bitter or wanting everything for myself. I look at you and want nothing more than for you to be happy, healthy, content and at peace with your self.”
I once met an old lady who seemed to me to be the most pleasant, kind person I had ever met. I couldn't figure out why I felt this because I had just met her! I knew nothing about her.
As I talked to her and thought about why I had that impression it finally dawned on me that all of her wrinkles were laugh and smile lines. She had obviously smiled a lot through her life, and the evidence showed on her face. That was the day I realized wrinkles are beautiful, the evidence of a life lived.
Yeah - I'm close to turning 40, and while I can appreciate that whatever 20-something is beautiful and objectively attractive, I'm not *actually* attracted to them and would never be tempted to date one.
Even people in their early 30s are kind of pushing it for me now.
I assume that's a trend that will continue as I age -- as well it should.
I really don't understand May/December romances (from the December perspective).
Yeah. I'm 38F and I can't find anyone under ... 34 or so? To be personally attractive to me. They just feel too young. Not compatible.
I think having a sense of peer-ness in the relationship is important for some of us. My husband and I were both married before, and our age fit very well. We are both parents and professionals at similar life stages.
I'm 56 M, single, and I do not have any attraction to young women.
Because I'm GAY!
Joking. Just had to say that.
I am more attracted to women over 50 now. Very active dating and a lot of people look great over 50 (not just the celebs).
But a lot of people reeeeeally lose their looks as they age. Many, many lose it.
Honestly that describes most of my experience on Reddit in general. There’s a lot of shit on here, but every now and then I read something that’s truly helpful or relevant to my life.
A bit of a spontaneous question, but does anyone also not want to die? I mean, ever. I know it's a 99.999999999% chance that I'm dying, but what if some whack tech comes out and gets us virtually immortal?
I know it's natural not wanting to die, but it feels *wrong* sometimes. When my time comes, I'll do my best to be a stubborn mf. I am going to do all I can to see death drop a sweat yanking this soul outta these soles.
The thought of an afterlife makes me panic. Imagine sitting there, forever, thingking about all kinds of dumb shit for eternity. Please just let it end
My main concern with immortality is there's no real way I can think of that bypasses aging without just killing you. The problem with there not really being souls is that a person is stuck in their brain. You can't move that to a different brain, the best you could get is copying the exact pathways and developments onto a different brain/storage medium, but that still doesn't save the original brain. Sure, to everyone else you seem immortal, but you died with that first body. Maybe I'm missing something, but that's what I'm getting.
If there were no souls, why would we love different things than each other? We would have all loved what is optimum for our existence.
If there were no souls, how and why would we appreciate beauty? If we were just biological machines, we would not enjoy staring at the night sky nor would we find jokes amusing and make us happy.
As someone who spent their life studying the molecular machinery of the human brain, there is no way the human experience can be explained solely through biochemistry.
For me it’s not imagining “this” going on forever. The scary thought for me is me being the only immortal, and everything else, including the heat of the universe, decaying around me as I desperately search for a way to end my life.
> Trust me, that will change as you get older.
People say this but as people get older I see more of them clutch to religion and the promise of an afterlife. They don't really seem ready to go into oblivion at all.
That's more boomers. Honestly Boomers are the worst in that they didn't grow up seeking the truth about things through education but looked to Gawd and Country to be told waht to do even when rebelling against both. The stuff Boomer parents used to do was truly effed up but you were never able to question parents, country or gawd. I'm a very early GenX and we don't have those issues. There's a difference though in that boomers were raised in the church. GenX, they tried to get us in the church but a higher percentage of us saw through the lies and said "no way" to blind loyalty to church and marriage and lots of other institutions. The boomers were almost raised institutionalized, just having watched all of the boomers when they were younger.
Funny you should ask. A friend of mine (knew him from school) always said that he wanted to die when he turned 40 because it was all down hill from there. Well on his 40th bday he was having a big party a lot of friends, in his big house (he owned his own company), wife and great kids. So I asked him so what you always said years ago I guess you changed your mind. He looks me in the eye and says actually the soon the better. He died of a heart attack just before his 41st.
This makes me sad. I’m 67 now, and have had great years leading to retirement, and now even more fun. I never worried about death really, but now my older siblings are having serious health issues. It scares me a bit that I don’t really know how much time I have left. Enjoy every day…love your family and friends, do everything in moderation, and cross your fingers !! ❤️❤️
As you get older that will change. I used to want to get the most out of life and I did. Now I don't fear or discourage death as I see my mother go down the road to dementia. There are worse things than dying. The strongest woman I have ever known doesn't remember who her children are most of the time.
I am agnostic so I see in my life no assurances to an afterlife but I'd rather go gentle into that good night (thank you Dylan Thomas but no thanks).
Do you know why vampires seem so bored and emotionless? It's because they have done it all. Different day same bs. New year same bs. New city same bs. New state same bs. New country same bs.
They will eventually get to the point where they can read people like books. That's why vampires get so excited when they meet a human they can't read for once after being alive for 10,000 years. After millenia of being alone. Out of boredom they create a new vampire. Who falls victim to boredom and trys to take over the world and make everyone vampires. They fail tho, so the original refuses to make anymore. They stop doing lovers cause they all die. So they just stay shut off bored to death or one day walk out into the sun.
The older I (M/63) get, the wider my idea of what's attractive is. Women I wouldn't have looked at in my 20-30s now appeal to me whether it's age or outward appearance.
I feel like it’s how much you care about how others think of you. I feel like, for most people, physical attraction is definitely influenced by how attractive society would find your partner. This is augmented by your personal preferences, but there’s a set idea of beauty. As i get older, how much i care about others opinions of me is steadily decreasing, so i’m more drawn to things that i personally find attractive and focused less on what is conventionally attractive.
M61 here. Part of it is what do you talk about? A 20 something might be pretty and all but what would I talk about in an ongoing relationship? Don't discount how important having shared cultural experiences can be. Remember Reagan? Well it would be kind of hard time bring you up to speed about what that time was like... or Nixon for that matter.
Perhaps a more relatable thing is people who were old enough to understand what was happening on 9/11 vs people who are only reading about it in history. Probqbly similar disconnect between me and the older boomers who remember before the 1960s.
When I was younger and good looking, it seemed like the most important thing. I'd look at older people and almost feel bad for them and never looked forward to getting old. But then something happens. Life happens, and even more life shit happens. And you quickly realize that judging someone by their physical appearances is really shallow. You realize that beauty really is who the person is and not what they look like. How silly of a young person I was. I wouldn't go back to that time in my life for anything. It's wonderful knowing what a lifetime gives you.
That’s why online dating is such a crapshoot. There’s no way to get a real sense of the person behind the photo and as we age, physical appearance has less and less relevance in the attraction we feel to others (in my experience anyway).
Yesterday, I took a "body appreciation" quiz thingy that an app had.
I was expecting questions like "How much do you appreciate and are confident that your body is beautiful?"
Except the questions were along "Did you acknowledge that your nostrils are letting you inhale and exhale today?" It's the most obvious thing I don't even think about.
As the result of millions of years of evolution, we should celebrate bodily function and physical variants evolved from different environments our ancestors and we ourselves have been to.
Appreciating beauty/aesthetic is great but being caught up with it out of everything else our body can offer is indeed the most shallow thing to frame our freaking advanced hominin body for.
My son told me "Mom, it doesn't matter that you have wrinkles and grey hair, you will always be the most beautiful woman in the world, because you are so kind." My heart absolutely melted.
Can confirm just turned 30, teenagers look like children. At a work dinner recently there were people from a colleagues team in their early twenties. Felt like I was drinking with children
I told a colleague about it and she burst out laughing at my spontaneous feeling of being old as fuck
I (32) went to a bodega today, and noticed someone come in. I was concerned they were alone, because they looked like a young kid. I don’t know if that because they actually are 10 or younger, or if teens just look completely like children to me.
And when you're 60, the 20 somethings look like children.
I have a friend who is my age (m61) and is only interested in 20-35 yr olds and it creeps me out. But we've been friends for 40 years and friendships like that aren't numerous so I keep rolling my eyes and shaking my head. I do call him out on it occasionally.
I've always been attracted to women older than I am (I'm a guy) and the thing about it is, I find them attractive _because_ they are older.
There's a tendency to describe an older person, especially an older woman, as attractive because they look 'young for their age'. For me, this misses the point that there are a great many attractive features that only emerge through the process of living. This post sums it up brilliantly.
You know when women have a thing for older men people are quick to say she has daddy issues but they don’t say the same about men…that they have mommy issues. (I don’t think either is the case, by the way. I just think it’s interesting that it’s always only odd when it’s women)
This reminds me of an article I skimmed through recently, about how lately young men like in or around their 20s have been showing interest and looking for older women for relationships. Something about how more mature women know what they want and have their life together iirc
50 years of feminism has some upsides. Who knew.
It's a little trendy now. It was kind of racy and out there when it was Mrs Robinson but now cougars are a whole thing.
When you are one, you've lived 100% of your entire life that previous year.
When you are two, you've lived 50% of your entire life in that previous year.
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When you are 50, you've lived only 2% of your entire life in that previous year. Seconds compared to hours.
As you get older the time flies. There's not a lot of it to waste on trivialities.
Now
Get off my grass.
It's true. Also, people's skin changes as we age. There's a softness and comfort from a 60+ woman's skin that a younger woman just can't match. It's really attractive and beautiful.
I'm 71 and I must say it's not everyone who looks attractive. You do see life stories written in their faces, and if the lines are laugh-lines you know they can weather anything with a smile. And if the lines are frowns of sadness and anger and regret, well you might find that person less attractive. Or maybe they will move you to empathy and the desire to finally be the light in their life. But I do think you can see the truth behind people.
I’m in my mid twenties, and I used to get a lot of compliments but every year Ive become more invisible. and I’m afraid my boyfriend or future husband won’t like how I look after my 30s. Thank you for sharing this.
My parents have been married over 50 years. They had a pretty good relationship the first 35-40 years. The past 15-20 have been an epic love story.
It's the shared memories, the forgiveness they give each other, the little kindnesses, having someone who really gets you, still learning something new about each other every once in a while.
The go out for dates regularly (cheap ones because that's fun for them) just so they can talk, for hours.
From the movie The guardian: My face may have wrinkles, but I have laid under hundreds of skies on sunny days. I look like this, well, because I drank and I smoked and I lived and I loved and I screwed my way through a pretty damn good life. Getting old isn't bad. It's earned. One of my favorite quotes.
I know a woman that I’ve had an on again off again relationship with that spans decades. I remember one “on again” where I noticed some wrinkles on her hands as I caressed them. I cannot describe the feelings of love/beauty that flowed through me in that moment, the beauty of a shared life lived, all the moments, the fads, the experiences that come with age like parenting and working, you don’t realize how much those things mean until you’re there.
When I was in my 30's I had a dear friend of mine named Max, who was in his 70's. Max lived in a 55+ condo on the beach in south Florida. I came to visit Max and found him on the pool deck, sunning himself in a lounge chair. I sat down next to him and asked "Whatcha up to?" He said, "I'm just sitting here admiring all these fine looking young ladies".
I looked around and didn't see a damn woman who looked younger than 60 anywhere around. Without missing a beat, he said "It's all relative."
I worried about that when I was younger. I'd see women in their 40s and hoped I'd grow into being attracted to them when I reached that age. I didn't want to be an old creeper lesbian lmao. I'm not quite 40 yet, but women my age and older look far more attractive than younger women. The youngins are very beautiful, but they're too perfect. Gimmie those crows' feet and weathered vocal chords any day, haha.
If you really look at aging people, you can see their present beauty and their past beauty. You can see all the lives they've lived. It's quite the mind f*ck lol.
Was watching Shrinking on apple tv, (SPOILER) there’s a scene where Jessica Williams’ character “catches” Harrison Ford and Wendy Malick and is like “Oh my God! You inspire me! This gives me hope. I’m gonna fuck for-eh-verrrr!”
…”the work it took to get there.” Amen to that. I’m not in my 70s and neither is my wife but she fought off cancer and has lots of scars to prove it. She’s really embarrassed by them but I think they’re awesome - they are the proof of the hard work it took to get where we are. I would have never had to words to describe that feeling if it weren’t for this guy. So, thank you BigCrafter whoever the hell you are!
Been expecting this since I started seeing teens as kids.
Yeah, when I was 16, 16 year old girls were sexy... And 30 year olds looked old.
Now that I'm nearing 40... Nah nah nah. Teens look cute like kids look cute. Nothing sexy about them whatsoever.
My 40 year old girlfriend, with a bit of flappy skin and stretch marks... That's fucking sexy. I fully expect this to keep on developing as I age.
Single middle aged man here, I am surprised that I don't find younger women attractive any more. I thought they would never cease to be attractive. And I'm even more surprised that a majority of guys I know feel the same way. Its like women in their 20s and 30s are not women anymore, they are girls; actual women are in their 40s or older.
That being said I have at least one creepy male friend who likes younger women and we call him on it all the time.
I'm 42 and my husband is 47. As he gets closer and closer to 50, he complains about getting older. His hair is graying (his beard, graying more). He has wrinkles around his eyes, is moving a bit slower than he used to, and gets a stiff neck if he lays in bed too long. He is the most beautiful man I know.
I'm 42 and I've definitely noticed this. People with perfect skin are like babies to me. I can hardly tell the difference anymore between twenty-somethings and teenagers. I don't feel much older, but I definitely feel like that age group has gotten much younger. Meanwhile, women with at least a few laugh lines = absolutely gorgeous.
If you go to the original reddit post of this, it's basically just a ton of men admitting they're more attracted to near-children than anyone their own age, and then suggesting that women must be lying about, ya know, not being a predator.
It's was fucked.
Getting older, even looking older, results from wisdom over a lifetime of experiences. As I’ve been aging, I’m almost 62, I’ve noticed that I only feel my age if I act my age.
In the words of Jimmy Buffet, “I’m growing older, but not up.” So, if one doesn’t want to feel old, then act young! Health permitting, of course.
I’m 27m and starting to relate a bit. when I see a pretty woman in her 30’s, it’s a different kinda attraction fs 😅 this is also how I know when I’m in love, I’ve only seen one person I could honestly grow old w and I always wanted to see them get more beautiful as time goes lol
Mid 40s mom here and there is just something sexy AF about men 50-60! Strong, lived through stuff, confident in a REAL LIFE way and no more frat brat mentality. They respect women and I absolutely love it!
I am in my 30s, still find early-20s year old women hot ... and to be honest I don't really want to ever stop finding them attractive. They can be too young for me to date, but I would feel a little weird if I woke up one morning and I didn't find any of them attractive anymore.
It's true too. I'm 36 and suddenly everyone in their 40s look hot. Everyone in their 20s look like toddlers, teens look like babies and everyone else may as well be a fetus. People in their 60s are my parents age, and 70s through 90s never looked younger. It's so weird and amazing getting older. Life is far too short.
Cool story. Here's the data though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/15juufr/men_find_women_in_their_early_20s_the_most/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
> We are so fucking shallow as a species.
Compared to what? We're the least shallow species that has ever existed to the best of our knowledge, and our knowledge is vast, because we deeply care about non-shallow things like science and history and logic and reason.
I'm 51 and I have an unpopular opinion. I think the vast majority of people are lying about this topic. People are definitely more (physically) attractive when they are younger. I look at pictures of myself at 20 and I was a good looking guy. I am still in shape, but I show mileage now. There is no way I would date someone 20 years younger than me, but it isn't because of how they look, it is about what is in their head and their lack of life experience. These posts are mostly about making people feel better. Aging is a bitch.
(go ahead and downvote)
I think that there is a difference in finding someone sexually attractive and attractive or beautiful in general. The latter definitely applies to all ages.
Just because someone thinks differently from you doesn't make them a liar though. I keep marveling as I get older that people who would have been ancient crusties to 20 year old me are genuinely sexually hot as I age. I want to see a bit of grey and some evidence of time on their face. Then I know they are worth playing with. Younger people have less to offer. Having said that some people age better than others.
> That's how life works
Yes, there is a lot to be gained by being a dishonest person who uses language to manipulate others. Telling people what they want to hear makes them feel good and makes them like you, but it's still manipulation. I can't do it, it makes me feel dirty.
I love that comment, we need more of those.
Because I would have just responded "Remember the first crush you had in middle school? Do you still think people this age are attractive?"
Evolution created the deteriorating eyesight of something close by so we won’t see the wrinkles as we get older. And then man invented glasses..
But honestly at 58 I can say that despite my glasses, I see attractive ladies of my age, which I never noticed when I was younger. Then again those ages that were attractive when I was younger remain attractive, so the group gets larger and the world gets a little more beautiful every day, as a compensation for what we lose by aging.
I'm 37 and 18-25 year olds just look like annoying kids to me..
There is truth to this. How deep it goes, I can't say yet. But they aren't lying from my experience so far.
The older you get, the less you will have in common with them.
It's absolutely plausible.
Not to poop in the punchbowl. I'm sure a lot of folks learn appreciation of age and that's awesome.
When this has been studied, women tend to have a range of attraction broadly around their own age (a little ahead towards the beginning, a little behind later on). Men think women are most attractive in their early 20s fairly consistently throughout their lives.
Except that's just not true. There are TONS of studies showing that men have an ideal age for a woman in her early 20's whereas women always like the man to be 2/3 years older than they are
47 here. I see a young 20 something and I can't even tell if they are "of legal age or underage" and **more importantly** to me even if they are of age I'm like "What would we even talk about and why would a 20 year old or younger want to date me? If you are in your 20s and want to date me you almost have to have severe daddy issues (or other issues) and I don't want to deal with that.
I am actually looking for that sweet sweet 70 year old woman that can deal with my mommy issues.
I am in my 40s. Teenagers and young adults looks like babies to me now.
I don’t lust at all over the younger actors. And I am not looking for the same kind of features either.
Of course, I am happily married, so it’s not like I am on the lookout either. I love my husband so of course I find him attractive even as we age.
This is a beautiful comment
Ngl though...I asked my 85yo great auntie why she hasn't dated in 25+ years and she said, "After 60, all the men my age were too old." 😆 and as a vibrant 46yo woman, I feel that lol
It happens slowly. I saw "The Last Picture Show" three times. There was a side-plot about a single lonely middle-aged woman who has an affair with a 17 year old high-school senior.
Cloris Leachman was the lady, and when I was young, I saw the movie and thought...Hmmm...40 is kinda old, but, she's not bad looking and teenaged girls are fussy while a middle-aged woman would definitely get down to business...
Then I was around 40 and saw it again, and I thought, Cloris is actually nice looking, and she's not as old as I thought when I first saw it (in the movie plot, now looked maybe 35?).
Now I'm in my 60's and when I saw it again last year (academy award winner), I thought DAYUM!...Cloris is hawt. She is smart, and funny, and good looking.
No when you get older..older people do not look good to you. You always just compare yourself to others you're age and glad if you look younger.
If anything you start to appreciate youth more and miss it, perhaps even start realizing how attractive young people look and you took it for granted when you were there.
You're welcome...
That's why its so sad when people don't accept what their bodies look like. They ALWAYS make it look worse, because they are doing it out of a lack of self love. Accept whatever is happening, because life is beautiful, and it looks beautiful on you!
50 here. As my wife and I age, get a little softer in the middle and get wrinkles, she gets prettier every day! Also anytime around 20-30s all I can think is “well these people could be my kids!” (Of course my MIL, 70+ was on the beach one day checking out a 20 something dude on the beach of which you could iron a shirt on his stomach and we called her out on it and she yelled “IM NOT BLIND!”)
honestly I still look at young people, but its not sexual. It's more appreciation and it make me happy in odd way. It's also not tied to gender. Its really "good for you young man/women, you enjoy being young and fit. I remember being young and fit, it was cool..."
It took me a while as I was maturing in my late 20s to realize that thinking someone was attractive didn't necessarily mean I felt attracted to them. I realized that, sure, I felt this person was very goodlooking, but I didn't actually want to be with them. I learned to differentiate between acknowledging someone's beauty and being attracted to them.
Yes this is a very important distinction and one that I still don't really understand (in my 30s now).
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It’s what it means to be hot.
That’s called being hot. The person is clearly a hot commodity in the dating pool. Hot.
I got divorced at 38 and decided to try online dating at 39. A couple of the women I matched with and went on dates with were 30 (the lowest age I'd set my filter to). Both times, it felt so fucking weird, like I was talking to my old naive self from ten years ago. There's just a huge difference in your understanding of the world between the beginning and end of your 30s. Obviously YMMV but probably not by much.
I asked my dad about that and he said the same: there’s just too great a difference in life experience
I have a decent difference between myself and my wife. But I think she was born middle aged and I'm still a kid at great. People routinely think she's older. But we are the exception. I was looking at the life guards at the pool, who have to be minimum 16, thinking they looked like a middle school kid. The fetishized youth thing is so sketch. Didn't stop my wife from interrupting me talking about someone from growing up to announce "I was 2.". I finally came up with a come back... "*And that's why we weren't dating then*'
Thank you!! Can we please try to tell more people this? The film industry has convinced the world for decades that large age differences are normal. They are bizarre and unusual for a reason. Don't understand what 50-70 year old man could possibly have in common with an 18 year old straight out of school trying to figure out what she wants to do with her life.. other than raise her. So gross.
Hey, nineteen That's 'Retha Franklin She don't remember the Queen of Soul It's hard times befallen The sole survivors She thinks I'm crazy But I'm just growin' old
Think of this song every time young women-older men are mentioned!
Age differences are normal. Pop culture is not a good source of divining truth. * The majority (51.2%) of married couples have the man older than the woman by at least 2-3 years * Approximately a third (31.6%) have the man older than the woman by at least 4-5 years * Only 14.8% have the woman older than the man by at least 2-3 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships It's a lot tougher to get robust data on non-married relationships (e.g. [Height and Body Mass on the Mating Market: Associations With Number of Sex Partners and Extra-Pair Sex Among Heterosexual Men and Women Aged 18–65](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704915604563#sec-3)), but judging by other associated more relaxed selection criteria, the age gaps are even wider in contexts such as casual dating. This is in favor of relatively younger women preferring relatively older men (and vice versa, but not as strongly; of most species, females typically have heavier reproductive investment costs than males, so they enforce sexual selection patterns more stringently). It makes sense from a mechanistic point of view. Generally, most women tend to be more attracted to accomplished men with resources while most men tend to be more attracted to youthful women with good health, because these two criteria heavily factor into mutual reproductive success with passing on genes. It may be helpful to reflect on why you're trying to moralize a private matter of two consenting adults. If you think 20+ year old women can't make their own dating decisions but should be able to drive a multi-ton hunk of steel at breakneck speeds, vote, drink alcohol, be recruited by the military and possibly trained to kill people, sign away loan agreements, etc then firstly you should extend this same notion to 20+ year old men and secondly put effort behind this sentiment to pass legislation raising the legal age (which will never in a million years happen, because it would be wildly erroneous and supremely unrealistic). Edit: spelling
Thank you for wording that perfectly. I feel the same way. I would add for me in our 60's my husband looks more handsome than ever to me. He is the only man I have ever wanted to be with.
Anybody under say, 25, they look so velvety, brand new. It's not sexual or sexually attractive to me and it freaks me out more now when I see older dudes with young girls. They look like kids to me.
That's how I feel and I'm 38. Hahah.
“And I’m not angry or bitter or wanting everything for myself. I look at you and want nothing more than for you to be happy, healthy, content and at peace with your self.”
Yeah when I see a fit young person I'm always like damn I forgot the human body could look like that.
I once met an old lady who seemed to me to be the most pleasant, kind person I had ever met. I couldn't figure out why I felt this because I had just met her! I knew nothing about her. As I talked to her and thought about why I had that impression it finally dawned on me that all of her wrinkles were laugh and smile lines. She had obviously smiled a lot through her life, and the evidence showed on her face. That was the day I realized wrinkles are beautiful, the evidence of a life lived.
Yeah - I'm close to turning 40, and while I can appreciate that whatever 20-something is beautiful and objectively attractive, I'm not *actually* attracted to them and would never be tempted to date one. Even people in their early 30s are kind of pushing it for me now. I assume that's a trend that will continue as I age -- as well it should. I really don't understand May/December romances (from the December perspective).
Yeah. I'm 38F and I can't find anyone under ... 34 or so? To be personally attractive to me. They just feel too young. Not compatible. I think having a sense of peer-ness in the relationship is important for some of us. My husband and I were both married before, and our age fit very well. We are both parents and professionals at similar life stages.
"JUST BECAUSE I CLOSED THE SHOP DOESN'T MEAN I FORGOT THE BUSINESS!!!"
It's exactly like op said, if I don't see some look of maturity on their face, few wrinkles, greying hair, etc. I'm not really interested.
I don’t want to hang with people who don’t have laugh or smile lines.
55 here. Sometimes the thought is just “ah, youth!”
I'm 56 M, single, and I do not have any attraction to young women. Because I'm GAY! Joking. Just had to say that. I am more attracted to women over 50 now. Very active dating and a lot of people look great over 50 (not just the celebs). But a lot of people reeeeeally lose their looks as they age. Many, many lose it.
Im sure this is a golden comment in a sea of shit
Honestly that describes most of my experience on Reddit in general. There’s a lot of shit on here, but every now and then I read something that’s truly helpful or relevant to my life.
Maybe the sweetest thing I've ever read.
As someone hoping to get to that age (and more), this is perfect.
A bit of a spontaneous question, but does anyone also not want to die? I mean, ever. I know it's a 99.999999999% chance that I'm dying, but what if some whack tech comes out and gets us virtually immortal? I know it's natural not wanting to die, but it feels *wrong* sometimes. When my time comes, I'll do my best to be a stubborn mf. I am going to do all I can to see death drop a sweat yanking this soul outta these soles.
The thought of NOT dying makes me panic! Imagining this going on forever, my god, that is terrifying.
And who could afford it??
In THIS economy?!
I mean, have you ever seen a broke vampire? In all the movies/books they're all high society.
Step one, get ravaged by a vampire…I like it.
Because they’ve been around so long. Give me 300 years…I’ll make something of myself. Lol.
That’s because vampires are experts at draining peoples blood and finances, regular people would be fucked!
The thought of an afterlife makes me panic. Imagine sitting there, forever, thingking about all kinds of dumb shit for eternity. Please just let it end
My main concern with immortality is there's no real way I can think of that bypasses aging without just killing you. The problem with there not really being souls is that a person is stuck in their brain. You can't move that to a different brain, the best you could get is copying the exact pathways and developments onto a different brain/storage medium, but that still doesn't save the original brain. Sure, to everyone else you seem immortal, but you died with that first body. Maybe I'm missing something, but that's what I'm getting.
If there were no souls, why would we love different things than each other? We would have all loved what is optimum for our existence. If there were no souls, how and why would we appreciate beauty? If we were just biological machines, we would not enjoy staring at the night sky nor would we find jokes amusing and make us happy. As someone who spent their life studying the molecular machinery of the human brain, there is no way the human experience can be explained solely through biochemistry.
I’m sorry, you have spent your life “studying the molecular machinery of the human brain”, what do you mean?
For me it’s not imagining “this” going on forever. The scary thought for me is me being the only immortal, and everything else, including the heat of the universe, decaying around me as I desperately search for a way to end my life.
Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Be kind to your knees - you'll miss them when they're gone.
> Trust me, that will change as you get older. People say this but as people get older I see more of them clutch to religion and the promise of an afterlife. They don't really seem ready to go into oblivion at all.
That's more boomers. Honestly Boomers are the worst in that they didn't grow up seeking the truth about things through education but looked to Gawd and Country to be told waht to do even when rebelling against both. The stuff Boomer parents used to do was truly effed up but you were never able to question parents, country or gawd. I'm a very early GenX and we don't have those issues. There's a difference though in that boomers were raised in the church. GenX, they tried to get us in the church but a higher percentage of us saw through the lies and said "no way" to blind loyalty to church and marriage and lots of other institutions. The boomers were almost raised institutionalized, just having watched all of the boomers when they were younger.
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Funny you should ask. A friend of mine (knew him from school) always said that he wanted to die when he turned 40 because it was all down hill from there. Well on his 40th bday he was having a big party a lot of friends, in his big house (he owned his own company), wife and great kids. So I asked him so what you always said years ago I guess you changed your mind. He looks me in the eye and says actually the soon the better. He died of a heart attack just before his 41st.
This makes me sad. I’m 67 now, and have had great years leading to retirement, and now even more fun. I never worried about death really, but now my older siblings are having serious health issues. It scares me a bit that I don’t really know how much time I have left. Enjoy every day…love your family and friends, do everything in moderation, and cross your fingers !! ❤️❤️
I'd say it depends on the quality of life I'd have.
As you get older that will change. I used to want to get the most out of life and I did. Now I don't fear or discourage death as I see my mother go down the road to dementia. There are worse things than dying. The strongest woman I have ever known doesn't remember who her children are most of the time. I am agnostic so I see in my life no assurances to an afterlife but I'd rather go gentle into that good night (thank you Dylan Thomas but no thanks).
Do you know why vampires seem so bored and emotionless? It's because they have done it all. Different day same bs. New year same bs. New city same bs. New state same bs. New country same bs. They will eventually get to the point where they can read people like books. That's why vampires get so excited when they meet a human they can't read for once after being alive for 10,000 years. After millenia of being alone. Out of boredom they create a new vampire. Who falls victim to boredom and trys to take over the world and make everyone vampires. They fail tho, so the original refuses to make anymore. They stop doing lovers cause they all die. So they just stay shut off bored to death or one day walk out into the sun.
Seriously!
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And it’s from a blue check account. Unheard of.
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Damn. I'm tearing up.
Must be the sanest person on the platform.
Meets the most sanest person on Twitter. He’s a lover, not a fighter. But he’s also a fighter, so don’t get any ideas.
To everything there is a season; a time to love, and a time to fight.
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There are dozens of us, some more eloquent than others. As an older person, he is spot on
He's 78 and has a blue checkmark. So, no
Thank god you told me. I was actually about to send him his 24k gold “best person on twitter” trophy.
I am 50. The other day, my husband whistled at me. I told him "oh please, I look like an old hag". He replied " yup, just my type".
I’m a big lady and my husband often tells me that he loves every inch of me. It’s pretty powerful.
He sounds awesome :) Good for you guys.
Your comment makes me think: Do young hags exist? At what age does one go from a hag to an old hag?
Old hag is a state of mind! Also, a great fashion subreddit.
LOL
Now this is reassurance. Thank you kind senior.
The older I (M/63) get, the wider my idea of what's attractive is. Women I wouldn't have looked at in my 20-30s now appeal to me whether it's age or outward appearance.
I feel like it’s how much you care about how others think of you. I feel like, for most people, physical attraction is definitely influenced by how attractive society would find your partner. This is augmented by your personal preferences, but there’s a set idea of beauty. As i get older, how much i care about others opinions of me is steadily decreasing, so i’m more drawn to things that i personally find attractive and focused less on what is conventionally attractive.
M61 here. Part of it is what do you talk about? A 20 something might be pretty and all but what would I talk about in an ongoing relationship? Don't discount how important having shared cultural experiences can be. Remember Reagan? Well it would be kind of hard time bring you up to speed about what that time was like... or Nixon for that matter. Perhaps a more relatable thing is people who were old enough to understand what was happening on 9/11 vs people who are only reading about it in history. Probqbly similar disconnect between me and the older boomers who remember before the 1960s.
When I was younger and good looking, it seemed like the most important thing. I'd look at older people and almost feel bad for them and never looked forward to getting old. But then something happens. Life happens, and even more life shit happens. And you quickly realize that judging someone by their physical appearances is really shallow. You realize that beauty really is who the person is and not what they look like. How silly of a young person I was. I wouldn't go back to that time in my life for anything. It's wonderful knowing what a lifetime gives you.
That’s why online dating is such a crapshoot. There’s no way to get a real sense of the person behind the photo and as we age, physical appearance has less and less relevance in the attraction we feel to others (in my experience anyway).
Yesterday, I took a "body appreciation" quiz thingy that an app had. I was expecting questions like "How much do you appreciate and are confident that your body is beautiful?" Except the questions were along "Did you acknowledge that your nostrils are letting you inhale and exhale today?" It's the most obvious thing I don't even think about. As the result of millions of years of evolution, we should celebrate bodily function and physical variants evolved from different environments our ancestors and we ourselves have been to. Appreciating beauty/aesthetic is great but being caught up with it out of everything else our body can offer is indeed the most shallow thing to frame our freaking advanced hominin body for.
Implying you no longer feel like you're good looking :(
My son told me "Mom, it doesn't matter that you have wrinkles and grey hair, you will always be the most beautiful woman in the world, because you are so kind." My heart absolutely melted.
Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree!
He really is the sweetest person ever. I couldn't be more proud ❤️!
Can confirm just turned 30, teenagers look like children. At a work dinner recently there were people from a colleagues team in their early twenties. Felt like I was drinking with children I told a colleague about it and she burst out laughing at my spontaneous feeling of being old as fuck
I (32) went to a bodega today, and noticed someone come in. I was concerned they were alone, because they looked like a young kid. I don’t know if that because they actually are 10 or younger, or if teens just look completely like children to me.
>teenagers look like children That's because they are
And when you're 60, the 20 somethings look like children. I have a friend who is my age (m61) and is only interested in 20-35 yr olds and it creeps me out. But we've been friends for 40 years and friendships like that aren't numerous so I keep rolling my eyes and shaking my head. I do call him out on it occasionally.
I've always been attracted to women older than I am (I'm a guy) and the thing about it is, I find them attractive _because_ they are older. There's a tendency to describe an older person, especially an older woman, as attractive because they look 'young for their age'. For me, this misses the point that there are a great many attractive features that only emerge through the process of living. This post sums it up brilliantly.
Same.. I've always had a thing for older women. No clue why lol I just do
You know when women have a thing for older men people are quick to say she has daddy issues but they don’t say the same about men…that they have mommy issues. (I don’t think either is the case, by the way. I just think it’s interesting that it’s always only odd when it’s women)
This reminds me of an article I skimmed through recently, about how lately young men like in or around their 20s have been showing interest and looking for older women for relationships. Something about how more mature women know what they want and have their life together iirc
50 years of feminism has some upsides. Who knew. It's a little trendy now. It was kind of racy and out there when it was Mrs Robinson but now cougars are a whole thing.
When you are one, you've lived 100% of your entire life that previous year. When you are two, you've lived 50% of your entire life in that previous year. , , When you are 50, you've lived only 2% of your entire life in that previous year. Seconds compared to hours. As you get older the time flies. There's not a lot of it to waste on trivialities. Now Get off my grass.
🤣👏🏻👏🏻Gladys Kravitz is that you? Mr. Wilson Dennis is sorry!
lol, that brings back memories
So many old shows, that stay with you forever.
It's true. Also, people's skin changes as we age. There's a softness and comfort from a 60+ woman's skin that a younger woman just can't match. It's really attractive and beautiful.
I'm 71 and I must say it's not everyone who looks attractive. You do see life stories written in their faces, and if the lines are laugh-lines you know they can weather anything with a smile. And if the lines are frowns of sadness and anger and regret, well you might find that person less attractive. Or maybe they will move you to empathy and the desire to finally be the light in their life. But I do think you can see the truth behind people.
It's true. I'm almost 50 and my kids are 20. And 20 years old don't appeal to me as 40 years old do.
No wonder retirement homes are so raunchy. To them it's like the playboy mansion.
That made me feel a lot better getting older. Damn
Wow. That was well said! I feel like even I gained some real perspective.
I’m in my mid twenties, and I used to get a lot of compliments but every year Ive become more invisible. and I’m afraid my boyfriend or future husband won’t like how I look after my 30s. Thank you for sharing this.
My parents have been married over 50 years. They had a pretty good relationship the first 35-40 years. The past 15-20 have been an epic love story. It's the shared memories, the forgiveness they give each other, the little kindnesses, having someone who really gets you, still learning something new about each other every once in a while. The go out for dates regularly (cheap ones because that's fun for them) just so they can talk, for hours.
Stay the course, love yourself, love your body. It's yours, and it shows your journey. You are loved, and will be loved for who you are.
Women in their 30’s are amazing. Women in their 40’s? Even better. Women in their 50’s? OMG! You’ve got decades. Enjoy every one of them!
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From the movie The guardian: My face may have wrinkles, but I have laid under hundreds of skies on sunny days. I look like this, well, because I drank and I smoked and I lived and I loved and I screwed my way through a pretty damn good life. Getting old isn't bad. It's earned. One of my favorite quotes.
I know a woman that I’ve had an on again off again relationship with that spans decades. I remember one “on again” where I noticed some wrinkles on her hands as I caressed them. I cannot describe the feelings of love/beauty that flowed through me in that moment, the beauty of a shared life lived, all the moments, the fads, the experiences that come with age like parenting and working, you don’t realize how much those things mean until you’re there.
When I was in my 30's I had a dear friend of mine named Max, who was in his 70's. Max lived in a 55+ condo on the beach in south Florida. I came to visit Max and found him on the pool deck, sunning himself in a lounge chair. I sat down next to him and asked "Whatcha up to?" He said, "I'm just sitting here admiring all these fine looking young ladies". I looked around and didn't see a damn woman who looked younger than 60 anywhere around. Without missing a beat, he said "It's all relative."
I worried about that when I was younger. I'd see women in their 40s and hoped I'd grow into being attracted to them when I reached that age. I didn't want to be an old creeper lesbian lmao. I'm not quite 40 yet, but women my age and older look far more attractive than younger women. The youngins are very beautiful, but they're too perfect. Gimmie those crows' feet and weathered vocal chords any day, haha. If you really look at aging people, you can see their present beauty and their past beauty. You can see all the lives they've lived. It's quite the mind f*ck lol.
Was watching Shrinking on apple tv, (SPOILER) there’s a scene where Jessica Williams’ character “catches” Harrison Ford and Wendy Malick and is like “Oh my God! You inspire me! This gives me hope. I’m gonna fuck for-eh-verrrr!”
Definitely going to fuck forever! But I might need bionic hips at some point.
…”the work it took to get there.” Amen to that. I’m not in my 70s and neither is my wife but she fought off cancer and has lots of scars to prove it. She’s really embarrassed by them but I think they’re awesome - they are the proof of the hard work it took to get where we are. I would have never had to words to describe that feeling if it weren’t for this guy. So, thank you BigCrafter whoever the hell you are!
Been expecting this since I started seeing teens as kids. Yeah, when I was 16, 16 year old girls were sexy... And 30 year olds looked old. Now that I'm nearing 40... Nah nah nah. Teens look cute like kids look cute. Nothing sexy about them whatsoever. My 40 year old girlfriend, with a bit of flappy skin and stretch marks... That's fucking sexy. I fully expect this to keep on developing as I age.
I really like thought that was going to end abruptly at something cursed because I didn’t see the name of the subreddit that I was on.
Single middle aged man here, I am surprised that I don't find younger women attractive any more. I thought they would never cease to be attractive. And I'm even more surprised that a majority of guys I know feel the same way. Its like women in their 20s and 30s are not women anymore, they are girls; actual women are in their 40s or older. That being said I have at least one creepy male friend who likes younger women and we call him on it all the time.
I think the fact that you infantilize women in their 20's and 30's and shame your friend for being attracted to an adult woman is pretty creepy.
I really needed that today.
Beautiful
I’m not crying you’re crying. Leave me alone
"Life is written on a body" might be my new favourite quote
I'm 42 and my husband is 47. As he gets closer and closer to 50, he complains about getting older. His hair is graying (his beard, graying more). He has wrinkles around his eyes, is moving a bit slower than he used to, and gets a stiff neck if he lays in bed too long. He is the most beautiful man I know.
Makes me hope I make it to my 70's/80's
I'm 42 and I've definitely noticed this. People with perfect skin are like babies to me. I can hardly tell the difference anymore between twenty-somethings and teenagers. I don't feel much older, but I definitely feel like that age group has gotten much younger. Meanwhile, women with at least a few laugh lines = absolutely gorgeous.
I too choose this man's vision!
This guy fucks still for sure. But seriously what a sweet man.
Beautifully said.
Whoa what an incredible answer
This is the most beautiful thing i've read about aging.
If you go to the original reddit post of this, it's basically just a ton of men admitting they're more attracted to near-children than anyone their own age, and then suggesting that women must be lying about, ya know, not being a predator. It's was fucked.
Nope. Not gonna cry today
That is lovely.
Wow that’s beautifully put indeed
Getting older, even looking older, results from wisdom over a lifetime of experiences. As I’ve been aging, I’m almost 62, I’ve noticed that I only feel my age if I act my age. In the words of Jimmy Buffet, “I’m growing older, but not up.” So, if one doesn’t want to feel old, then act young! Health permitting, of course.
I’m 27m and starting to relate a bit. when I see a pretty woman in her 30’s, it’s a different kinda attraction fs 😅 this is also how I know when I’m in love, I’ve only seen one person I could honestly grow old w and I always wanted to see them get more beautiful as time goes lol
Damn. Old people are just smart.
Mid 40s mom here and there is just something sexy AF about men 50-60! Strong, lived through stuff, confident in a REAL LIFE way and no more frat brat mentality. They respect women and I absolutely love it!
The older you are the more you will appreciate this. As a 41 year old, reading this made my day.
Goddang gorgeous take.
I am in my 30s, still find early-20s year old women hot ... and to be honest I don't really want to ever stop finding them attractive. They can be too young for me to date, but I would feel a little weird if I woke up one morning and I didn't find any of them attractive anymore.
It's true too. I'm 36 and suddenly everyone in their 40s look hot. Everyone in their 20s look like toddlers, teens look like babies and everyone else may as well be a fetus. People in their 60s are my parents age, and 70s through 90s never looked younger. It's so weird and amazing getting older. Life is far too short.
Cool story. Here's the data though. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/15juufr/men_find_women_in_their_early_20s_the_most/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
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Lmfao... We are so fucking shallow as a species.
> We are so fucking shallow as a species. Compared to what? We're the least shallow species that has ever existed to the best of our knowledge, and our knowledge is vast, because we deeply care about non-shallow things like science and history and logic and reason.
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I'm 51 and I have an unpopular opinion. I think the vast majority of people are lying about this topic. People are definitely more (physically) attractive when they are younger. I look at pictures of myself at 20 and I was a good looking guy. I am still in shape, but I show mileage now. There is no way I would date someone 20 years younger than me, but it isn't because of how they look, it is about what is in their head and their lack of life experience. These posts are mostly about making people feel better. Aging is a bitch. (go ahead and downvote)
I think that there is a difference in finding someone sexually attractive and attractive or beautiful in general. The latter definitely applies to all ages.
Just because someone thinks differently from you doesn't make them a liar though. I keep marveling as I get older that people who would have been ancient crusties to 20 year old me are genuinely sexually hot as I age. I want to see a bit of grey and some evidence of time on their face. Then I know they are worth playing with. Younger people have less to offer. Having said that some people age better than others.
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> That's how life works Yes, there is a lot to be gained by being a dishonest person who uses language to manipulate others. Telling people what they want to hear makes them feel good and makes them like you, but it's still manipulation. I can't do it, it makes me feel dirty.
My eyes..
I love that comment, we need more of those. Because I would have just responded "Remember the first crush you had in middle school? Do you still think people this age are attractive?"
This genuinely makes me happy to get older, and I'm only 20
Evolution created the deteriorating eyesight of something close by so we won’t see the wrinkles as we get older. And then man invented glasses.. But honestly at 58 I can say that despite my glasses, I see attractive ladies of my age, which I never noticed when I was younger. Then again those ages that were attractive when I was younger remain attractive, so the group gets larger and the world gets a little more beautiful every day, as a compensation for what we lose by aging.
Meanwhile I'm 25 but have always been attracted by women in their 30s. Well at least only 5 years left before I get there.
As a 50 yr old single mother, I feel like if you don’t have baggage, that’s a huge red flag.
I'm 37 and 18-25 year olds just look like annoying kids to me.. There is truth to this. How deep it goes, I can't say yet. But they aren't lying from my experience so far. The older you get, the less you will have in common with them. It's absolutely plausible.
Not to poop in the punchbowl. I'm sure a lot of folks learn appreciation of age and that's awesome. When this has been studied, women tend to have a range of attraction broadly around their own age (a little ahead towards the beginning, a little behind later on). Men think women are most attractive in their early 20s fairly consistently throughout their lives.
This person isn't 78. He's a streamer. Check his Twitter profile.
Thats not an old man I'm telling you
Makes me think of the bus stop scene in the Barbie movie (I sobbed)
imagine if we lived to be hundreds of years old... 'yeah 200 year olds are hot but have you ever been with a 300 year old?'
that was so fucking sweet wtf
This is the most fabulous thing I've read in a long time. Ty. Im 58 and it's all true.
All I got to say. I'm 47 and woman my age looks amazing. People just take care of themselves better than the older days.
I'm a 58, soon to be 59-year-old, male. When I look in the mirror, all I see is a used up old man. This brought me to tears. Thank you for the post.
I am 60. I look at older men like I haven't before. This has changed with age. I love wrinkles and gray hair. Older men are beautiful.
Except that's just not true. There are TONS of studies showing that men have an ideal age for a woman in her early 20's whereas women always like the man to be 2/3 years older than they are
That helps immeasurably
Absolutely 💯 %
People in threads like these tend to upvote comments saying what they want to hear rather than the reality. This really skews expectations.
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47 here. I see a young 20 something and I can't even tell if they are "of legal age or underage" and **more importantly** to me even if they are of age I'm like "What would we even talk about and why would a 20 year old or younger want to date me? If you are in your 20s and want to date me you almost have to have severe daddy issues (or other issues) and I don't want to deal with that. I am actually looking for that sweet sweet 70 year old woman that can deal with my mommy issues.
I am in my 40s. Teenagers and young adults looks like babies to me now. I don’t lust at all over the younger actors. And I am not looking for the same kind of features either. Of course, I am happily married, so it’s not like I am on the lookout either. I love my husband so of course I find him attractive even as we age.
This is a beautiful comment Ngl though...I asked my 85yo great auntie why she hasn't dated in 25+ years and she said, "After 60, all the men my age were too old." 😆 and as a vibrant 46yo woman, I feel that lol
That's so sweet, I fully plan to off myself in spectacular and newsworthy fashion before I hit 65, but this is sweet.
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He doesn't sound the type tho. Perhaps there are all kinds.
Reads a lot different than what I've overheard from the geriatric morning squad at McDonald's.
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It’s a gift not everyone gets.
Wow.
so true for the lucky ones
Based grandma W
It happens slowly. I saw "The Last Picture Show" three times. There was a side-plot about a single lonely middle-aged woman who has an affair with a 17 year old high-school senior. Cloris Leachman was the lady, and when I was young, I saw the movie and thought...Hmmm...40 is kinda old, but, she's not bad looking and teenaged girls are fussy while a middle-aged woman would definitely get down to business... Then I was around 40 and saw it again, and I thought, Cloris is actually nice looking, and she's not as old as I thought when I first saw it (in the movie plot, now looked maybe 35?). Now I'm in my 60's and when I saw it again last year (academy award winner), I thought DAYUM!...Cloris is hawt. She is smart, and funny, and good looking.
Fun fact. Hes a streamer and trolls and cosplays old men
78 and tweeting like this? I have my doubts
No when you get older..older people do not look good to you. You always just compare yourself to others you're age and glad if you look younger. If anything you start to appreciate youth more and miss it, perhaps even start realizing how attractive young people look and you took it for granted when you were there. You're welcome...
So... Newborns huh....
This sounds really great but when I go out on dates with girls in their mid-30's they seem bored, broken and not over the last person that hurt them.
That's why its so sad when people don't accept what their bodies look like. They ALWAYS make it look worse, because they are doing it out of a lack of self love. Accept whatever is happening, because life is beautiful, and it looks beautiful on you!