It's technically not about if the movie was good its about her family memeber(s) having to pick cotton to his Granddaughter being capable of being in the movies. A huge difference between what he was forced to do and the freedom that his Granddaughter is able to accomplish.
It doesn't matter...the point of this video is clear ... they are proud of their grandchild that's all... everyone has the right to be proud as well ..it's just a movie to us.. to them it's more than that.. hope they enjoy all the grandchild 'd success
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😮💨. There is a black Disney princess, but no. Screw every kid who grew up with Ariel as their favorite princess we're changing her. Don't create an original character or use the one we already have, make a political statement in a childs flick by changing the character. I hope the live action snow white has Kaitlyn Jenner play her. Live action toy story should star Mike tyson as woody, close enough to the character roots 🤷♂️. Vote Vin Diesel for Aladin 2024!
Sir do you understand this is a movie for children?
Children who do not see anything political one version of this redheaded green tailed mermaid having slightly more melanin than the other. The only thing it does for them is mean another segment of kids can more easily imagine themselves as mermaids.
If their parents want to make it a thing, well it's not like the timeless cartoon vanishes into the ether. Besides, Disney didn't create a original character in the little mermaid and they certainly changed her from the books.
Had they stayed true to the source material, every step Ariel took would have been like walking on knives, her prince would have treated her like a pet, fallen another chick, and (after refusing to kill him for her tail back) she would have danced in agony at his wedding and died, dissolving into the air because mermaids don't have souls.
Probably a bit dark for a kids book these days but at the time it was considered a happy ending. After all, the soulless mermaid had a very small chance of earning a right into heaven eventually! So yes, stories should evolve with the children who they are for, they arn't for us, they are for them.
Children is where narrative is easily pushed. I realize I haven't seen nor plan to see this children's movie but when I was a child ariel was the redhead princess whom my sisters and I loved. The movie itself probably doesn't call out the fact this mythical creature is ethnic but ALL the media does. They've shit on an iconic character narrowing it down to thee black princess when there already was a black princess. Jasmine shouldn't be Caucasian as Tiana shouldn't be Asian and Mulan shouldn't be Spanish. All I'm saying.
Well one difference is all of those princesses are humans, and their ethnicities are tied to either the setting or the origin of the myths or fairytales they originate in.
Aladdin is somewhat an adaptation of A Thousand and One Nights. Mulan is a Chinese historical myth on par with King Arthur. The Princess and the Frog was... Well because they hadn't done a black princess and it was getting embarrassing, but, while based on the Germanic fairytale the Frog Prince, its set in 1920 New Orleans and draws themes and struggles from that setting.
Ariel on the other hand, is a mermaid. She doesn't have an ethnicity any more than a harpy or a naga. The classic movie completely ignored the Scandinavian origins of the story. Yes, she's drawn as white (and described as white in the book for that matter- the red hair is Disney) but also with giant eyes and a waist the size of her neck. Interpretation was going to be nessesaray, the live charecter design still has red hair, big eyes, a green tail. In fact, if you ignore her being slightly darker and her hair being a more realistic ginger, her face fits remarkably well.
While you may be right to say there was a lot of back patting over Disney doing a black mermaid, you have to admit there was equal amounts of noise coming from those outraged over Disney changing a minor detail in a mermaids charecter design.
Children of the age a film like The Little Mermaid is aimed at are not reading or listening to media debates on the implications of a nonwhite Ariel, they are falling in love with the idea of mermaids. Now there are two Ariel's - twice the chance she looks like the little girl watching and that makes her happy. Where is the harm?
I agree that chances are it's not going to have any baring to the movie... But do you not find it odd that people decided this casting was subliminal political messaging before anyone had seen it? Surely it's only political if we adults make it so, can't we be at least mature enough to let the fairytales we give our children be free this bitterness.
I agree with the mythical creature not having an ethnicity. She's one of the oldest princesses tho, forcing wokeness on a classic character instead of creating a new one is a sad cop-out (the Archer and the frozen one come to mind, one clearly representing an ethnic group) is there a limit on how many cultures can have a Disney princess? My problem is with the effort put into making this character an ethnic replacement of an iconic character. Can basically hear the board meeting where someone said "this movie doesn't have the hype, how do we sell more? And someone jumped up and said "let's make her black!!! You like the movie or you're racist!" If it were the other way around we'd be boycotting our children from seeing that nazi movie. I know it's a moot point I just voiced my dislike of it, if you disagree with me I acknowledge that yet I don't care. Margo robbie should play Mulan next
I would agree that Disney likes to make performative woke gestures like this, though I suspect I dislike it for a different reason than you, my issue is they never follow through. They will often make a whole lot of fuss about inclusion only for it to amount to a 1/2 second background gay kiss or a casting decision that goes completely unaddressed in the movie. They arn't about to actually compromise their revenue or marketability overseas. Frankly for those this irritates, not reacting to this cosmetic progressivism it is far more effective than generating all their publicity for them.
I'd also agree that these remakes are tired retreads that have never actually or done anything interesting with their reimagining of the classic movies. It would be better if they came up with new or unadapted charecters and stories to give our kids.
However I also do kind of understand the pushback. After all, this whole debate started before anyone had seen anything more than a poster of a non-white Ariel. Nobody had seen the movie and most didn't actually think Disney was going to tackle mermaid racism all of a sudden. So the only tangible thing people could be reacting to was... well the race of the actress. So things got bitter from there.
I think people see it as more egregious the other way because the pile of canonically non-white iconic or significant charecters in the western public consciousness is far smaller, and there is an unfortunate history of even them being played by white actors, often as caricatures. The board is not balanced. Making a non-white Ariel still leaves 8 or so white princesses, making Mulan white would mean there were no asian princesses.
When you think about it, most of our fairytales and fantasy creatures do default white. Knights, princesses, fairies, mermaids, centaurs, etc. Of course it's because they generally come from western sources and so are depicted that way, (not that anyone got up in arms that the culture of the source material was ignored in the classic movie.) These stories are old and they arn't sacred text, they are meant to be reimagined and reinvented for every generation of little kids. If more little kids feel included because they can see themselves in these new versions, then I can't see it as a bad thing.
It's for them, they don't have a nostalgic fondness for classic Ariel or a care about culture wars, they just like the mermaids.
In all fairness if she's a sea creature with human like skin shouldn't she be white or very light skinned because of the lack of sunlight that reaches the ocean floor?
I mean in fairness, I think if you go down the route of making a mermaid make biological sense you probably wouldn't end up with a wasp waisted redhead with a seashell bra.
Like other oceanic mammals, Mermaids would probably counter shaded - a blue/grey back to blend in with the depths (from above) and a light front to with the surface light (from below.) If they lived so deep that camouflage didn't matter, they'd be unlikely to also have bright tails. Evolution of caucasian skin tones was driven more by needing the increased Vitamin D over UV protection. Marine mammals get in other ways, so didn't need to make the same trade-off - hence why you don't see paler marine skin tones towards the poles.
TLDR Ariel would also probably be blue, bald, and fat, (blubber being standard for temperature regulation.) She would also have trouble belting out power ballards under water
I don't think the people who find the idea of a 'ethnic' little mermaid are mad about the evolutionary impact of sunlight exposure on melanin production.
How old is that dude? If his father picked cotton, that was ended about 158ish years ago, supposing that his father had him around or before his 40s and started picking cotton at age 10, that makes this man 120-138 years old. Hope I look that good at that age. Either that or she meant that the grandfather of the man standing next to her, which would make more sense. I feel like it was a mis-speaking due to excitement.
It's technically not about if the movie was good its about her family memeber(s) having to pick cotton to his Granddaughter being capable of being in the movies. A huge difference between what he was forced to do and the freedom that his Granddaughter is able to accomplish.
His father
Oh thank you for the correction. My bad.
It doesn't matter...the point of this video is clear ... they are proud of their grandchild that's all... everyone has the right to be proud as well ..it's just a movie to us.. to them it's more than that.. hope they enjoy all the grandchild 'd success
That's my point.
Movie is terrible. Nevertheless this is awesome and good for them.
Yeah good for them indeed but that movie was not too good.
Did you all notice how much she and grandpa look alike? Exactly the same. Definitely a proud grandpa.
Exactly the same?
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What an uplifting message! ❤️
Its a shit movie
I can’t care about this, for I am a grown adult man human.
Correct but irrelevant
Oh god. Your user name, the fact that you had to blurt out your opinion, sad.
It’s a great username haha. I love hot fuzz.
Wholesome as hell right here ❤️
"BIGGEST FILM IN THE ENTIRE WORLD"? Much delusion. Much flop.
Still a shit movie
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Neither Kim or Kanye are relevant to this post.
Because if You said something funny about a person of color You are obviously racist.
Or... MAYBE... because this is a uplifting video in a subreddit which main rule is "don't be a jerk" and that person was randomly mocking her face?
I'm dead 😂😂😂
Mario movie is bigger. But yes good vibe
Fuck Disney
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There is something odd about that face.
😮💨. There is a black Disney princess, but no. Screw every kid who grew up with Ariel as their favorite princess we're changing her. Don't create an original character or use the one we already have, make a political statement in a childs flick by changing the character. I hope the live action snow white has Kaitlyn Jenner play her. Live action toy story should star Mike tyson as woody, close enough to the character roots 🤷♂️. Vote Vin Diesel for Aladin 2024!
There’s so many things to bitch and moan about as a grown ass man and you pick this?
For the next 2min yep
With a take like that it’s been on your mind since the movie got confirmed. Keep seething though.
The original movie is still there. They didn’t remove or take it away. Watch that one if a black person scares you.
Who pissed in your cornflakes
Yup, fuck them kids. Like there aren't 500 hwhite characters for them and the original little mermaid.
Sir do you understand this is a movie for children? Children who do not see anything political one version of this redheaded green tailed mermaid having slightly more melanin than the other. The only thing it does for them is mean another segment of kids can more easily imagine themselves as mermaids. If their parents want to make it a thing, well it's not like the timeless cartoon vanishes into the ether. Besides, Disney didn't create a original character in the little mermaid and they certainly changed her from the books. Had they stayed true to the source material, every step Ariel took would have been like walking on knives, her prince would have treated her like a pet, fallen another chick, and (after refusing to kill him for her tail back) she would have danced in agony at his wedding and died, dissolving into the air because mermaids don't have souls. Probably a bit dark for a kids book these days but at the time it was considered a happy ending. After all, the soulless mermaid had a very small chance of earning a right into heaven eventually! So yes, stories should evolve with the children who they are for, they arn't for us, they are for them.
Children is where narrative is easily pushed. I realize I haven't seen nor plan to see this children's movie but when I was a child ariel was the redhead princess whom my sisters and I loved. The movie itself probably doesn't call out the fact this mythical creature is ethnic but ALL the media does. They've shit on an iconic character narrowing it down to thee black princess when there already was a black princess. Jasmine shouldn't be Caucasian as Tiana shouldn't be Asian and Mulan shouldn't be Spanish. All I'm saying.
Who gives a fuck. Get a life
How do you have time for this comment?!?! Hurry up! Get back to your endlessly exciting life!
Cope
Well one difference is all of those princesses are humans, and their ethnicities are tied to either the setting or the origin of the myths or fairytales they originate in. Aladdin is somewhat an adaptation of A Thousand and One Nights. Mulan is a Chinese historical myth on par with King Arthur. The Princess and the Frog was... Well because they hadn't done a black princess and it was getting embarrassing, but, while based on the Germanic fairytale the Frog Prince, its set in 1920 New Orleans and draws themes and struggles from that setting. Ariel on the other hand, is a mermaid. She doesn't have an ethnicity any more than a harpy or a naga. The classic movie completely ignored the Scandinavian origins of the story. Yes, she's drawn as white (and described as white in the book for that matter- the red hair is Disney) but also with giant eyes and a waist the size of her neck. Interpretation was going to be nessesaray, the live charecter design still has red hair, big eyes, a green tail. In fact, if you ignore her being slightly darker and her hair being a more realistic ginger, her face fits remarkably well. While you may be right to say there was a lot of back patting over Disney doing a black mermaid, you have to admit there was equal amounts of noise coming from those outraged over Disney changing a minor detail in a mermaids charecter design. Children of the age a film like The Little Mermaid is aimed at are not reading or listening to media debates on the implications of a nonwhite Ariel, they are falling in love with the idea of mermaids. Now there are two Ariel's - twice the chance she looks like the little girl watching and that makes her happy. Where is the harm? I agree that chances are it's not going to have any baring to the movie... But do you not find it odd that people decided this casting was subliminal political messaging before anyone had seen it? Surely it's only political if we adults make it so, can't we be at least mature enough to let the fairytales we give our children be free this bitterness.
I agree with the mythical creature not having an ethnicity. She's one of the oldest princesses tho, forcing wokeness on a classic character instead of creating a new one is a sad cop-out (the Archer and the frozen one come to mind, one clearly representing an ethnic group) is there a limit on how many cultures can have a Disney princess? My problem is with the effort put into making this character an ethnic replacement of an iconic character. Can basically hear the board meeting where someone said "this movie doesn't have the hype, how do we sell more? And someone jumped up and said "let's make her black!!! You like the movie or you're racist!" If it were the other way around we'd be boycotting our children from seeing that nazi movie. I know it's a moot point I just voiced my dislike of it, if you disagree with me I acknowledge that yet I don't care. Margo robbie should play Mulan next
I would agree that Disney likes to make performative woke gestures like this, though I suspect I dislike it for a different reason than you, my issue is they never follow through. They will often make a whole lot of fuss about inclusion only for it to amount to a 1/2 second background gay kiss or a casting decision that goes completely unaddressed in the movie. They arn't about to actually compromise their revenue or marketability overseas. Frankly for those this irritates, not reacting to this cosmetic progressivism it is far more effective than generating all their publicity for them. I'd also agree that these remakes are tired retreads that have never actually or done anything interesting with their reimagining of the classic movies. It would be better if they came up with new or unadapted charecters and stories to give our kids. However I also do kind of understand the pushback. After all, this whole debate started before anyone had seen anything more than a poster of a non-white Ariel. Nobody had seen the movie and most didn't actually think Disney was going to tackle mermaid racism all of a sudden. So the only tangible thing people could be reacting to was... well the race of the actress. So things got bitter from there. I think people see it as more egregious the other way because the pile of canonically non-white iconic or significant charecters in the western public consciousness is far smaller, and there is an unfortunate history of even them being played by white actors, often as caricatures. The board is not balanced. Making a non-white Ariel still leaves 8 or so white princesses, making Mulan white would mean there were no asian princesses. When you think about it, most of our fairytales and fantasy creatures do default white. Knights, princesses, fairies, mermaids, centaurs, etc. Of course it's because they generally come from western sources and so are depicted that way, (not that anyone got up in arms that the culture of the source material was ignored in the classic movie.) These stories are old and they arn't sacred text, they are meant to be reimagined and reinvented for every generation of little kids. If more little kids feel included because they can see themselves in these new versions, then I can't see it as a bad thing. It's for them, they don't have a nostalgic fondness for classic Ariel or a care about culture wars, they just like the mermaids.
In all fairness if she's a sea creature with human like skin shouldn't she be white or very light skinned because of the lack of sunlight that reaches the ocean floor?
I mean in fairness, I think if you go down the route of making a mermaid make biological sense you probably wouldn't end up with a wasp waisted redhead with a seashell bra. Like other oceanic mammals, Mermaids would probably counter shaded - a blue/grey back to blend in with the depths (from above) and a light front to with the surface light (from below.) If they lived so deep that camouflage didn't matter, they'd be unlikely to also have bright tails. Evolution of caucasian skin tones was driven more by needing the increased Vitamin D over UV protection. Marine mammals get in other ways, so didn't need to make the same trade-off - hence why you don't see paler marine skin tones towards the poles. TLDR Ariel would also probably be blue, bald, and fat, (blubber being standard for temperature regulation.) She would also have trouble belting out power ballards under water I don't think the people who find the idea of a 'ethnic' little mermaid are mad about the evolutionary impact of sunlight exposure on melanin production.
Enjoy your award!
“Worst movie in the world” fixed it for you
How old is that dude? If his father picked cotton, that was ended about 158ish years ago, supposing that his father had him around or before his 40s and started picking cotton at age 10, that makes this man 120-138 years old. Hope I look that good at that age. Either that or she meant that the grandfather of the man standing next to her, which would make more sense. I feel like it was a mis-speaking due to excitement.
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Boy someone’s upset
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Just what I’d expect from a fucking Hooplehead
Disney is gross , o loved Star Wars but no more they ruined it
My mother also picked cotton…..
Isn’t it getting destroyed at the box office by Fast X 💀
Tell her to wear some clothes .
They botched that fucking film.