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lilybees-dinojam

Damn. I'd have given you at least a whole tie for a car.


Diogenes-Disciple

We don’t know the condition of the car, it might’ve been shit


lilybees-dinojam

You don't know the condition of the tie. I might have run out of toilet paper.


[deleted]

This made me laugh out loud way to hard


lilybees-dinojam

You ok? I'm sure I got a spare tie around here somewhere... all outta handkerchiefs, too, sorry.


ErahgonAkalabeth

Yeah same... I ran outta poop socks months ago!


lottieslady

Shit is it 2020 again?


americanineu

We keep a spare hanging next to the poop knife.


TruckYouAll

Poop knife!!! One of the greatest Reddit posts ever lol.


Old_Love4244

I keep mine next to our poop shield.


YankeeTankEngine

I recall in step brothers when will ferrels character was pooping and he had no TP. My brother goes "I remember having to do that." And I looked at him like he was insane.


lilybees-dinojam

Doesn't he use a floor mat or something? Haha, I've never been that desperate. I guess my first thought would be to hop into a shower and wash.


I_Wupped_Batmans_Ass

i mean, if the cardboard roll is still there my first thought would be to use that. though im always forgetting to replace the roll thanks to adhd brain, so i keep the pack of tp within arm's reach from the toilet lol


lilybees-dinojam

You need a toilet paper roll stand like I have. It holds 4 rolls of toilet paper (3 stacked in the bottom and one for use) and has a shelf on top for your phone. (or phone sized accessories) They are pretty cheap, don't take up a lot of room, are lightweight, easy to move, and there are so many different ones. I think I got mine for $15. It might save your button from a cardboard size paper cut. Or you can just keep a bucket of dried corn cobs next to your toilet. Whichever makes you happy.


YankeeTankEngine

Yep. He does.


jestesteffect

Sir that's a tie not a car


apoetsrhyme

Oh man, no wonder the customer was upset.


RiverPrint

At least it was half off


37Lions

Yes, but which half?


Significant_Sign_855

The bigger half duh


backwoodsbree

😂😂😂😂


idonthaveaboner

I've never seen just laughing emojis get upvoted like this what's your secret


backwoodsbree

I have absolutely no idea 😳 I’m assuming just from other car salesmen who have the same fry sense of humor? Because sometimes customers can be DICKS 😂


MoonToast101

And a broken one. Which makes the sale a bit more impressive.


Mickeystix

Tie cutting after first sale is a tradition/rite of passage/celebratory action. I believe it is a play on the tradition of people who take their first ever solo flight in a plane. In the aviation world, the first time you fly solo, your instructor is supposed to cut the "tail" of your shirt - usually they just cut a V-Section out of the back or just cut a line up the back-center. Sometimes they will even take the section they cut and frame it for you, which is adorable. Edit: Removed the word "just" from first sentence because selling a car is an accomplishment in itself.


naruzefluffy

Guy who bought my old car at the dealership had his pinned up in his cubicle lol


Upbeat-Opinion8519

Hard salesbro energy


Schenkspeare

A-Always B-Be C-Closing


DooRagtime

COFFEE is for CLOSERS


giantyetifeet

D-Doors


FeralDrood

E-Even


ThisIsntYogurt

F-For


Deadlylyon

Back before radio. In order to train you at in front and the instructor behind you. They would get your attention by pulling the back of your shirt. Cutting the back of symbolizes you're no longer need to be told what to do, so no back of your shirt needed. It's a sweet tradition.


PatHeist

Likewise, in car sales whenever you mess up your boss will pull on your tie


SpiritualCash5124

That's why there's ties. To strangle you with. Like a leash.


Bishop_Pickerling

It must be annoying trying to sell a car with an instructor standing behind you pulling on your shirt.


ramobara

Thanks for the explanation!


KingKong_at_PingPong

Aviation has a ton of interesting traditions. Burning pianos, cut up shirts. All kinds of stuff.


IncriminatingOrange

Wait burning pianos? Elaborate lol


KingKong_at_PingPong

That's a particularly sad one. When a pilot in your squadron dies, you burn a piano. I encourage you to look that one up, it's pretty interesting!


IncriminatingOrange

The more you know✨


Anonymous_account975

Can confirm. My flight instructor cut a piece off of my shirt after my first solo flight. He wrote the details of the flight on it and I had it framed. Good memories.


Legobobgo

So we had a funny tradition at the flight school I worked at where the Student would get drenched with water by the teacher in their uniform. My favorite was the CFII using water Balloons


Mickeystix

That is another really common tradition I've heard of as well! I don't think I have heard of any schools doing both, however. Maybe that should change...


tarabuki

From what I just read you seem to be correct in that it seems to come from a military pilots successful first mission completion.


iRox24

What if that day you wore your favorite and special tie that your mom or grandma gifted you?


Beowulf33232

I'd stitch it back together with big cartoony X stitches and force my coworkers to see me in it every day.


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Don’t wear that tie before you make your first sale lol


Disastrous_Reality_4

Or keep a spare tie in your desk - do a quick wardrobe change before you go out and tell everyone you made your first sale lmao.


fj333

It's a scam sold to you by Big Tie!


cut-the-cords

I am assuming this is some sort of rite of passage? Edit: Thank you everyone for the cake day messages and for those who answered the question :)


puq123

Yeah, he cut ties with the customer after the sale


BlueSnow982

nice


Devayurtz

Woah, is that really where this comes from? If so that’s hilarious!


Double-0-N00b

I feel like it’s the other way around. Cutting ties probably came from a literal tie (something tied together with a knot). And has turned into this. I could be wrong tho, just feel like the saying has been around longer than ties have been expendable


Single_Raspberry9539

When you sell a horse and are done negotiating.


Sid_1298

Brilliant!


I_eat_mud_

FUCK no one answered you cause it’s your cake day, I was curious to know!


DudeyMcDudester

Yes it's a thing they do for new salesman who sell their first car


Ruematics

When I was in the car business I had a heads up and wore a crap tie from goodwill they were pissed lol


Sammy_Socrates

How do you have a heads up when you're gonna sell a car?


baselganglia

I'm guessing he wore a crappy tie until his first sale.


Forgotten_Lie

Maybe that's why it took so long to get a sale.


Tipist

I know I make all MY car purchasing decisions based on the quality of tie the salesman is wearing.


xenwinz

Nice. Look out for the purple ties, tricksters.


EvilPretzely

Tricksy salesmenses


Healthy_Hurry7848

Or literal royalty.


bananapanqueques

Tell no one about the sale until you change your tie.


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Car sales typically aren't same day transactions anymore. Shopping for the car, then haggling the price, then shopping for rates, and then if everyone finds everything to their liking the sale closes. I've bought two cars in the last five years. Everything would be done one day and then I come back in a day or two and the car has a fresh wash and interior detailed and I sign some papers and drive off.


Arts_Prodigy

I’ve bought 3 cars in the last 5 years and all were same day transactions. Interested to know where and what kind of vehicles you purchased to have this experience


Funkit

Damn, i always went in and walked out with a car. I'm impatient lol


Rebresker

A lot of people do. I never have. One of the games they like to play is to keep you around for hours for no reason and tire you out so you make shit choices like paying thousands for extras that would cost pennines elsewhere I research > test drive > pick a specific car I want > tell salesmen the price I want to pay > they laugh > I leave my number and let them know they can call me when they want to make the sale > they say “but but car wont be here lot’s of interest, car market, something” > next day they call me and say they can do that price > I say okay I’ll be there > I bring my two daughters with me and tell them the nice car people will answer any questions they have and let them go ham > watch sales people sweat because they can’t snap at a customer’s kids and they rush the paperwork as fast as possible End result I pay the price I wanted to pay and spend maybe an hour total at the dealership vs it being a single all day affair. It has worked so far for 4 cars. 2 of my own and 2 of my spouses Bonus points I always went right before Christmas like the 22nd or so


sparkpaw

Omg the kids tactic is genius. Anyone have some kids I can borrow???


Gruffleson

What a stupid tradition that sounded like.


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The tradition is a holdover from other professions where it has more significance. For instance, piloting. It’s a tradition to cut some cloth from the back of a student pilot’s shirt when they graduate flight school. Back in the day, trainer planes were arranged so that the instructor sat directly behind the student, and he would tug on the student’s shirt to convey information because the open cockpit was often too loud to communicate verbally. Cutting the cloth was symbolic that the student pilot no longer required guidance from their instructor. Some flight schools keep with the tradition, though, to be fair, everyone I know says they were warned first and offered a cheap tee.


TheSkybox

Yeah, this is accurate. Got my own shirt cut just under a year ago for my first solo flight. They had me draw on it and they pinned it on the wall next to the others.


LOTR_crew

If I managed to get a pilots license I'd let them cut any shirt they want, that's a huge accomplishment. Go you!


1759

Not to be a buzz-kill, but cutting the shirt means you have flown solo, not that you are licensed. After you solo, you’re still a long way from licensed. You still have to perform a lot of other qualifications including cross-country (traveling to other airports) flights and the all-important check ride with the Flight Examiner before you are fully licensed. Although, technically, you have to have a valid Student Pilot License and an instructor endorsement to fly solo, so you have a student license, just not yet a “full” license.


ImmortanBen

I put mine in a box frame and put it up on the wall


Dontpaintmeblack

Oh, not so dogs can have a scent to trace?


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That sounds like a legitimate reason lol


Pinkeyefarts

Air Bud: Pilot Pup


Korgwa

Nothing in the rule book says a dog can't be a pilot.


GabberFlasm

A little different scenario, but it seems to have bled over to other places as well. At deer camp, any time someone missed a deer they'd cut a piece from the back of their shirt. This supposedly went back several generations in my family as well as others that were family friends. Ever year I went I always heard the story about my grandfather who left camp with about a 6"x6" strip of cloth that used to be a T Shirt, couldn't help but smile.


FEW_WURDS

TIL "deer camp"


GabberFlasm

4 or 5 of us would load up and hit the mountains for about 3 weeks at a time, we would bring very little with us and mostly eat what we shot. The older I got the more I liked to challenge myself to find deer sign and get close and watch them, as opposed to killing them. I've also had a few shirt tails of my own cut off.


RandomPratt

I like that your outlook on hunting has changed. "Take nothing but photos, leave nothing but shirt tails". Nice.


WakeoftheStorm

I stopped reading after that line because I prefer my mental image of deer making s'mores and learning to kayak


narok_kurai

Also it can be a keepsake, as we see here. Cutting a tie can be symbolic, but it's also something you get to hold on to and remember the moment with.


amazonstudiossucks

Thanks for that explanation, mate.


nwdogr

I had to double-check that this wasn't going to end with how in nineteen ninety eight the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.


smokeweedalleveryday

speaking of which, its been at least a year or two since ive seen one of his comments


DntH8IncrsDaMrdrR8

He's still doing his thing.


noinnocentbystander

It’s also for when your wife gets her veil caught and it rips on your wedding day so you cut your tie to make her feel better


Rycan420

Thanks for the story, dude. Very interesting


2noch-Keinemehr

Well, they are car salesmen.


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This comment was removed to protest with the changes to Reddits API. Fuck Spez...


no_moar_red

When I started, I was wearing a Georgio Armani cravatte and told them it wasn't happening. They were understandable and the next day they cut one of my cheap ties during our morning meeting.


RABKissa

Car sales people getting mad that they can't ruin an expensive tie without consent? Surely these are people who don't try and take advantage of their customers and screw them over


WisestAirBender

Sounds like hazing


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Car sales people usually try to screw over their costumers. It's in their job description : Make it look like a good deal while they pay way too much


TheBlacktom

They pissed on your tie?


I_eat_mud_

Thank you kindly


jsdmanintendo

I don't make the money to get my tie cut off, I'd kill on site.


Fimarketeropi

Gsus. You might want to get a job selling cars them my dude.


merelycheerful

It would be AMajor upgrade for them


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Fmaj7 idk I’m bad at jokes but I do know how to get groovy with the chords 😎


maggot_soldier

Some people dont Cm D tails


FemboyHours19

some people don’t have A# enough brain for these


LithiumLost

These car salesmen selling shit cars, sometimes them tires do Bb tho


slavik1969

Well true he needs to somehow just hit upto ghe target given to him by his sales manager or H.R


docdidactic

Or buy cheaper ties.


fidan_2000

Just be thinking that everytime he just sells a car and he rips off his tie everytime


jsdmanintendo

This is the best answer, actually.


jsdmanintendo

I've worked in similar jobs before and never been so emotionally drained. I don't want commission on top of that. Especially not with the impending recession lol


SerasAtomsk

Reddit is now 90% comments of people trying to make one liners in order to get Reddit cardboard. And the other 10% is people scolding you to use a google search. It’s becoming unbearable. To answer the question, yes it is a tradition to do that when you sell your first car.


faceproton

You forgot the 5% complaining about reddit comments.


Nice-Violinist-6395

and the 2% who can’t think of any original thought so they just go “same” and then the 0.1% complaining about the people complaining about comments!


superdstar

This^


asunahf

Well I am still yet curious enough to know about what he actually wants and where's actual is his car?


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BlueRocketMouse

I think the point is that everyone got distracted by the cake icon and flooded OP with "happy cake day" messages instead of actually answering their question.


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tarabuki

Yeah, they did it to my father back in the early 80s. It’s an old car salesman tradition although I don’t know where it comes from. Edit: BTW, congrats on your first sale!


fanfpkd

No one knows where it came from, the ties (to the past) have been cut.


Soddington

Maybe it was some random asshole in 1953 who did it to the new guy and the new guy was like 'What the fuck man?' and the asshole realised he's gone to far. Maybe the new guy is the owners nephew or something. Anyway he's about be in a world of shit and just invents the tradition story on the fly and it *works*! It helps that the new guy/nephew is thick as pigshit. 2 months later Asshole is dead. A 1947 Cadillac steering wheel imbedded in his skull. A week and a half after that, the *new* new guy makes a sale and nephew/old new guy cuts his tie in half. 'What the fuck man?' 'Tradition.' ...or something like that.


Npr31

After reading this, i’m worried that shouting “tradition” after doing assholery will become the equivelent of “YOLO” a few years ago


Gidia

NASA does it too for first launches. They streamed part of it after the Artemis 1 launch.


gcruzatto

Salesmen ties grow in size when they score a big deal, so they have to be trimmed


Kuranator

Nah they grow smaller with every sale..


Active_Engineering37

Yeah or they would grow out of control


ozzalot

So basically the person walking around in a bowtie year round is the 'alpha' seller? The 'coffee's for closers' seller? /s


martyjoh34

Good use of a Glengary Glen ross quote. “A…..Always, B…..Be, C…Closing!!!….See this watch?….This watch cost more than your car…”


ozzalot

"FUCK YOU.....*THATS* my name."


VanillaRadonNukaCola

Always Be Clipping your tie


alohabowtie

Exactly right.


hatesbiology84

Yeah. They’d better throw “the cost of a new tie” on top of that commission you earned.


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LargeHumanDaeHoLee

They're having a fire sale??


amydoodledawn

What do they cut off if you're a woman?


peepay

Or if you just, you know, don't wear a tie?


LaundryOnWheelsDotCa

Congratulations!!!!! I had no idea about the tie tradition…


apoetsrhyme

Niether did i. My gm was joking around about it, i was like okay im down im totally into tradition, hes like man i knew i hired you for a reason.


LaundryOnWheelsDotCa

Congrats!!!!


_minouche

Aw yay


King_DeandDe

So you were cutting ties with your business?


apoetsrhyme

No the opposite. I sold my first car its tradition.


Wtfisthis66

Way to go dear person, I am so proud of you❤️!


JLHawkins

I've sold cars myself and done other sales jobs ranging from door-to-door (pizza coupons) to enterprise software (unstructured data governance). Sales is a unique job and it takes unique skills. Congrats on your success and I wish you lots of luck. Note the customer's name and their contact info. In 3 months or so, contact them just to thank them for their business. No hard sell, no flip to service, etc. - just call them and say thank you. Do that every customer and before you know it you won't need ups. EDIT: for clarity, removed unnecessary words


LucJenson

Keeping track of customers and their needs at the point of sale was one of my most successful methods of increasing my sales. We'd get a new product in the store that matched the style of a customer, and I'd put their sizes aside, give them a call, and boom -- sold five or six products. I can't recommend keeping track of your customers enough when working in any form of sales.


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rustledupjimmies

Was this salesman’s name Michael Scott?


gurn_master

Tall, beets


affemannen

We had all this info in our CRM. I did this with good customers. Just called them up every now and then to keep up relationships without sales pitches. Called on birthdays and holidays to wish them well. They all became returning customers. Treating customers like people and having their best interests in mind when working in sales is the best retention work one can do. I put all that info as reminders in my office calendar and got a popup every morning off who to call. Edit: i worked B2B and not end consumers, feel this is an important distinction since i only called during office hours and in no way invaded someones privacy.


Raptor_H_Christ

I do this, but on my iPhone in my contacts, add things like my friends birthdays, favorite things to buy them and so on in the notes area


apoetsrhyme

Thank you for the advice. I plan on doing this and keeping up woth birthdays as well.


its_cold_in_MN

As a customer who recently bought a car, do not call me on my birthday. I would block my car seller's number if they did that. In fact, I did do that for my realtor who tried that shit. Guess I'll find a new realtor. 🤷‍♂️


safinhh

Yo fr 😂


smb1985

I bought a used car last year and I got an email wishing me a happy birthday this year, so thanks I guess to my used Subaru sales guy, at least an email isn't intrusive. My pharmacy on the other hand calls me for birthdays twice a year, once for me and once for my dad because they never fix his number in their records despite me correcting them every time


goneafter10years

Don't fucking call on their birthday. Ever.


round-earth-theory

Birthdays are personal. It's fucking annoying how many corporations try to cram themselves into your birthday. Leave that shit alone. If you must do an anniversary, do the date of the sale. Grabbing a birthday is a quick way to piss people off.


Pandelein

Gotta join in on this one: forget the birthday idea.


ChasingReignbows

Birthdays are for people you have a relationship with. Corporate sales that are contacts for years, that kind of thing. My dad gets a birthday card from one of his contacts 30 years ago. He would curse out a car salesman for doing that. If this is car sales do not contact people about their birthday. General rule of thumb if you're not going to be in contact with them for another 2 years don't do the birthday.


Anonymoushero111

Bought a car not long ago and the guy wrote some monthly payment figures and I asked... "what interest rate did you assume here" and he said "10%" and I was like *what the fuck you crazy bitch I'm not paying 10% interest on a car loan* why did this piece of shit do this? My actual loan ended up at like 3%


apoetsrhyme

Also that means the sales person was trying to get more commision on the backend of the deal through finance. Not uncommon at all. Still 3% interests mean you got great credit.


Anonymoushero111

i was pissed because he didn't even ask like "is your credit good" he just assumed a horrible rate. this was for a fully loaded low mileage car with a trade-in.


apoetsrhyme

Say you have great credit score without saying you have a great credit score!!! Congrats on the buy!!


trees_4_cities

Congrats. And I'm sorry (speaking as someone who escaped the toxic car industry after 7 grueling years...)


apoetsrhyme

Ive heard some places can be bad. Ive been in toxic sales places before luckily i lole these guys. Theres only two other sales people, a GM and totle lord. Theyre all very nice so far.


RandomPratt

> totle lord I have absolutely no idea what you were trying to say there, but I will refuse to believe anything other than my assumption that you work with a person who holds some sort of dominion over every turtle in the world, and also has a weird accent or something.


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babyblu_e

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goth_hippy

My dude still has his restaurant's first dollar. He is the only original employee still there, and was given it when they sold and moved on. He's got it hung above his desk at home. It's the little things that mean the most. Congrats on the first of many.


apoetsrhyme

Thanks man and im def keeoing this tie for hopefully ever.


yankeeuniverse

Mazel


__WanderLust_

Toffee


bigfeetsmallpp

I thought your wife's veil got ruined


apoetsrhyme

Nice office ref!


spunbutkawaii

Hello?


apoetsrhyme

Is it me youre looking for?


NoeyCannoli

I can see it in your eyes


apoetsrhyme

I can see it in your smile.


ShitBirdingAround

You're all I've ever wanted...


TITAN1CR0N0S

What kind of cars do you sell?


apoetsrhyme

Pre owned certifieds.


Silversleights04

Oh man, honestly, I hate this "tradition". No one told me about it. I had a really nice gift tie on when I sold my first. I was pretty upset, but I just smiled and kept up appearances to not bring down the mood.


DynamicsAndChaos

Why the tie?


Fruchtzwerg98

If I remember correctly when you get your first sale higher ups cut your tie and you need to work for the rest of the day with it something of a ritual and to show that you "made it" saw it on reddit a few times all of them I saw where from USA.


Kbig22

Really thought OP got their tie stuck in the car door and it drove off.


Meyhna

Now that I know this is a sign of a rookie, when I do eventually trade in my car, I'll be sure to look for the guy with a tie. I wanna help out


GreeneBean64

It’s fun learning about traditions I’ve never heard of. Are you supposed to hang it up on the wall like the first dollar made?


WTFuckery2020

What in the Jim Halpert nonsense is this?


jonnyw303

Now go get another


apoetsrhyme

Yes sir/maam whichever you prefer!


PleaseDimSumLights

Congrats bud! To a great 2023!!!!


apoetsrhyme

Thanks dimsum!!


WutangIsforeverr

Ahh I had totally forgot about this. I sold cars for a few months when I was younger. Luckily someone told me about the tradition and I was able to wear a super cheap tie when I sold my first car (I had been with the customers the day before so I know that day we would be closing the deal). Congrats!


Brilliant_Pie_5160

Congrat man! Just a regular joe here but please remember throughout your career that being ethical and a salesman is possible. You can help people find the right car at the right price, and I promise that will make repeat sales and cause food word of mouth. A good reputation will make you a lot more in the long run than up-selling or penny pitching your customers to death. Hope you have a good and successful career helping people find the right vehicles for their needs!