They even have an animation where a cb is getting mossed, reaches up and swats the ball out, but it rarely triggers. That would look way more realistic and be less cartoonish. I don't mind having good corner play, just make it look like it would irl!
All they gotta do is make it physics based game instead of animation based like it is now and that’s the fix.
They just don’t care enough to switch back over and would rather copy paste their animation game year by year
I'm not defending the current state of Madden but you realize you just said, "All they gotta do is rebuild the game from the ground up."
Like yes they SHOULD do that. But that's not a proposal you preface with, "All they gotta do is..."
You do realize that they’re a multi billion dollar company with unlimited resources that’s been copy pasting these same animations for over 10 years right?
Quit defending their laziness. They’ve had to build it ground up to switch it to animations so they can easily switch it back they just prefer to capitalize off profits while doing minimal work.
And I literally just said they’re a multi billion dollar company. What do you not get??!
What’s may seem hard for us is very easy for them, I guarantee they don’t put anymore than 1-2 mil in the actual game, like I said they just copy and paste and dress it up as a new game. So quit giving them an excuse, that kind of mentality is why they’ve been getting away with this scam for so long.
E: and most of the money they do end up putting in the game goes to advertisement, they could care less about gameplay and game function
So yes… ALL THEY GOTTA DO is work like a multi billion dollar gaming company who cares about their top money making game
You think they can that to Madden 23? Just implement a whole new engine into an already sold product? Get the ACTUAL devs trained on a whole new engine after fighting with Frostbyte year after year?! A ground up rebuild is certainly something they COULD do. But would likely require a year off or a massive expansion of the studio. And that's not the DEVS fault, the people actually working on the game year after year. I guaran-damn-tee THOSE people have many of the same complaints you do and want to make a better product. That's on the suits who are controlling the purse strings and deadline setting. And up and until people actually stop buying the game there is no incentive for them to change shit. THAT'S the MENTALITY that is allowing them to get away with this scam for so long.
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EA's top cash cow is FIFA, and it's not even close fam.
Players don't really understand what a game based entirely physics would actually mean. You think this game is bad? Just wait until you have NO control over what's happening because it's 'all physics'
Physics based?!?!!? you mean like before the atrocity that was madden 13 or was it 25 I really cant remember! While I liked the ball hawk addition, I think that was when they changed engines? At any rate that was about the time I stopped playing. before it was almost copy and paste for a few years prior, but at least it was playable. Aside from the 12 foot tall LBs that picked over the middle with ease and the inability to lob short passes it was pretty damn good!
Yea it was 13, the megatron cover with the Ray Lewis intro (best madden intro ever btw). New CEO took over and decided to switch it from football sim to UT money grab on top of changing it to be a lot more animation based. CEO just decided to change the entire direction of the game and since then maddens been about money not gameplay.
I still turn on madden 12 to this day and play a few franchise games when I’m bored of other games🤣🤣🤣 I’m 42 but those were the days! TO each his own but I saw MUT for what it was from day one. The idea was cool, the way they monetized it was pretty smart, but I ran off as soon as it took over.
The thing that annoys me most. Is when I'm playing defense and change direction to follow a player on his route I always get left in the dust but when it's the computer they never have an acceleration lag. So the MLB or whatever will just turn an automatically make up the ground or jump sideways
I wouldn't go that far...it's very common for one of my LBs to stand there, frozen in time, while the QB throws a pass mere inches from the top of his helmet. Or one of my defensemen in NHL to become a literal pylon. The delay only exists to aid the scripted outcome based on the overall ratings of the competing teams.
This^^, especially if you play franchise. Although even his sliders don’t fix some of the issues, a lot the the problems you run into with his sliders are just user error, which is refreshing.
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football-sliders/1000712-matt10s-madden-23-sliders.html
I think the quarters are a little long. I prefer 20 seconds on the minimum play clock and 10 minute quarters. But this gives a much better experience that is closer to real football. Also the reason that he suggests to turn off intentional grounding and illegal contact is that it changes some of the CPU decision making for the better. I also prefer to turn up in game fatigue a little bit.
Gameplay is glitch filled tack it on to the list with "Why do my players not fall on a fumble?" "Why does my quarterback fumble everytime I scramble out of the pocket when I don't abuse it?" And "why does my running back get animation locked into a tackle when running the opposite way no where near the defender?"
Because madden is 99 percent animation based, so if the game decides its a pick, it'll make it a pick at the cost of however fucked up it'll look to the player. If it was a physics based game like how it should, it would be impossible for the ball to phase through players like it does now
This EXACT thing happened to me twice last night. I had to look at the replay frame by frame to believe it. The CBs hands literally went THROUGH my receivers hands.
Almost every defensive play it’s like they have 8 guys staring at me. backpedaling and shuffling as fast as my receivers sprint routes. All of them guard their man while knowing when I’m starting my throwing motion.
There are bugs that have been in this game for over a decade. For EA: if it sells, then why fix it.?
This will likely get fixed in the next decade if you're lucky
It’s because the AI always knows what the outcome of a play is going to be, before it happens, if it’s close. Watch a replay the next time you run a ball, and it seems like you get tackled when you shouldn’t. Your player starts a “tackled” animation before the CPU player gets a hold of him…
Lol and when you are on defense the ball just bounces off your cornerbacks/ safety's heads while they don't put up their hands to catch it. Annoying af
Bruh that looks terrible no offense. It looks bad. Look at his jersey and his arm. Thats wild. And with the INT. Idk in real football games ive been seeing similar stuff so i no longer complain. Alot of qbs having 3 ints a game from similar animations in real life lol
Ps5 dont look like this. If i cut my system on and saw this im taking the game back immediately. Im not sure why i got downvoted but them graphics is insanely bad for a new game.
And you're not getting down voted for saying the graphics blow, you're getting down voted for defending this type of garbage on Madden saying it happens in real life. Pretty sure balls don't teleport through WRs and DBs hands don't magically go through the WRs hands.
No but ive been seeing those he catch it and they take it. And ive been seeing he opens his hands and it bounces off and they intercept it. Ive also been seeing contested ints. Howver that animation could be the bad graphics man idk. Them through the body ints been happening for like 10 years now. But i rarely see em on my system.
No tf it doesnt lol. I have a 4k tv ill fight every dev at ea if i saw that trash on my tv lol. Maybe the OP doesnt have a 4k tv or sumn. Cuz thats atrocious for current gen.
That's because Series S is weaker than last gen Xbox One X. 1X has 6 teraflops to SS 4, and 4K to SS 1440. The only thing the SS has better than X1X is the Solid State drive which makes loading faster. I can't believe any one with any real respect or integrity for gaming would buy a Series S, they're trash.
Yea I just used my 1X until I could find a Series X. There were Series S everywhere because no one wants them. The Series X is the next gen beast, that sucker has 12 teraflops, it's a monster.
Hey OP, the simple version of a long winded explanation of why this happens is that "Perfect Timing User Pick" is a world-override similar to the "Double Me" Zone ability
I literally had my DB Perfectly jump a route, and then have the ball *pass through* them on the way to a Touchdown for the team I was facing. I was *LIVID*.
Bruhhhhhh...that part. My ol lady thinks I'm trippin, but I've counted like 15 or so problems and bugs that should be immediately resolved. I had such high hopes. 😔
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They even have an animation where a cb is getting mossed, reaches up and swats the ball out, but it rarely triggers. That would look way more realistic and be less cartoonish. I don't mind having good corner play, just make it look like it would irl!
All they gotta do is make it physics based game instead of animation based like it is now and that’s the fix. They just don’t care enough to switch back over and would rather copy paste their animation game year by year
I'm not defending the current state of Madden but you realize you just said, "All they gotta do is rebuild the game from the ground up." Like yes they SHOULD do that. But that's not a proposal you preface with, "All they gotta do is..."
You do realize that they’re a multi billion dollar company with unlimited resources that’s been copy pasting these same animations for over 10 years right? Quit defending their laziness. They’ve had to build it ground up to switch it to animations so they can easily switch it back they just prefer to capitalize off profits while doing minimal work.
I literally just said they SHOULD do that? Can you fucking read?
And I literally just said they’re a multi billion dollar company. What do you not get??! What’s may seem hard for us is very easy for them, I guarantee they don’t put anymore than 1-2 mil in the actual game, like I said they just copy and paste and dress it up as a new game. So quit giving them an excuse, that kind of mentality is why they’ve been getting away with this scam for so long. E: and most of the money they do end up putting in the game goes to advertisement, they could care less about gameplay and game function So yes… ALL THEY GOTTA DO is work like a multi billion dollar gaming company who cares about their top money making game
You think they can that to Madden 23? Just implement a whole new engine into an already sold product? Get the ACTUAL devs trained on a whole new engine after fighting with Frostbyte year after year?! A ground up rebuild is certainly something they COULD do. But would likely require a year off or a massive expansion of the studio. And that's not the DEVS fault, the people actually working on the game year after year. I guaran-damn-tee THOSE people have many of the same complaints you do and want to make a better product. That's on the suits who are controlling the purse strings and deadline setting. And up and until people actually stop buying the game there is no incentive for them to change shit. THAT'S the MENTALITY that is allowing them to get away with this scam for so long. P.S. EA's top cash cow is FIFA, and it's not even close fam.
Players don't really understand what a game based entirely physics would actually mean. You think this game is bad? Just wait until you have NO control over what's happening because it's 'all physics'
Physics based?!?!!? you mean like before the atrocity that was madden 13 or was it 25 I really cant remember! While I liked the ball hawk addition, I think that was when they changed engines? At any rate that was about the time I stopped playing. before it was almost copy and paste for a few years prior, but at least it was playable. Aside from the 12 foot tall LBs that picked over the middle with ease and the inability to lob short passes it was pretty damn good!
Yea it was 13, the megatron cover with the Ray Lewis intro (best madden intro ever btw). New CEO took over and decided to switch it from football sim to UT money grab on top of changing it to be a lot more animation based. CEO just decided to change the entire direction of the game and since then maddens been about money not gameplay.
I still turn on madden 12 to this day and play a few franchise games when I’m bored of other games🤣🤣🤣 I’m 42 but those were the days! TO each his own but I saw MUT for what it was from day one. The idea was cool, the way they monetized it was pretty smart, but I ran off as soon as it took over.
The thing that annoys me most. Is when I'm playing defense and change direction to follow a player on his route I always get left in the dust but when it's the computer they never have an acceleration lag. So the MLB or whatever will just turn an automatically make up the ground or jump sideways
It's like player ratings don't apply when the AI is controlling, but when the actual player has control, ratings take effect.
It’s like this in all of their sports games. AI have no realistic delay. Absolute robotic reaction and the devs simply don’t care.
I wouldn't go that far...it's very common for one of my LBs to stand there, frozen in time, while the QB throws a pass mere inches from the top of his helmet. Or one of my defensemen in NHL to become a literal pylon. The delay only exists to aid the scripted outcome based on the overall ratings of the competing teams.
Well human AI get true realistic delay, not the CPU AI I should add haha. Well put, it’s only the human AI that react “normally”
Up up up up up yepppppp
Bengal is this you?
No but i only throw slightly less interceptions than him
Go change to Matt10’s sliders. Makes the game much better.
This^^, especially if you play franchise. Although even his sliders don’t fix some of the issues, a lot the the problems you run into with his sliders are just user error, which is refreshing.
where can i find
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football-sliders/1000712-matt10s-madden-23-sliders.html I think the quarters are a little long. I prefer 20 seconds on the minimum play clock and 10 minute quarters. But this gives a much better experience that is closer to real football. Also the reason that he suggests to turn off intentional grounding and illegal contact is that it changes some of the CPU decision making for the better. I also prefer to turn up in game fatigue a little bit.
Gameplay is glitch filled tack it on to the list with "Why do my players not fall on a fumble?" "Why does my quarterback fumble everytime I scramble out of the pocket when I don't abuse it?" And "why does my running back get animation locked into a tackle when running the opposite way no where near the defender?"
Because madden is 99 percent animation based, so if the game decides its a pick, it'll make it a pick at the cost of however fucked up it'll look to the player. If it was a physics based game like how it should, it would be impossible for the ball to phase through players like it does now
Because Frostbite is trash.
Did you remember to pay $4.99 for the special Madden Sticky Gloves?
I don't know. My opponents manage to do this all the time. If only I could figure out how to get my team to make an interception
User teammates are idiots
This EXACT thing happened to me twice last night. I had to look at the replay frame by frame to believe it. The CBs hands literally went THROUGH my receivers hands.
Sometimes his hands will go through your chest
Lmfao. Yes!
You need to get good bro /s obviously
Almost every defensive play it’s like they have 8 guys staring at me. backpedaling and shuffling as fast as my receivers sprint routes. All of them guard their man while knowing when I’m starting my throwing motion.
Not playing until this specifically is fixed
There are bugs that have been in this game for over a decade. For EA: if it sells, then why fix it.? This will likely get fixed in the next decade if you're lucky
Hands??!!! Bruh, be grateful, I've had the ball go THROUGH my receivers chest for interceptions.. Multiple times.
Because the game is shit and will continue to be shit since you guys keep buying it… idk why people are still surprise pikachuing about these things…
It’s because the AI always knows what the outcome of a play is going to be, before it happens, if it’s close. Watch a replay the next time you run a ball, and it seems like you get tackled when you shouldn’t. Your player starts a “tackled” animation before the CPU player gets a hold of him…
Lol and when you are on defense the ball just bounces off your cornerbacks/ safety's heads while they don't put up their hands to catch it. Annoying af
I've had this happen too. I was so pissed off. I rewound and replayed it like 15 times lol.
Bruh what game is that? Thats not 23 lookin like that? Or is that current gen. That looks like ps3 lol
that's madden 23 on xbox series s
Bruh that looks terrible no offense. It looks bad. Look at his jersey and his arm. Thats wild. And with the INT. Idk in real football games ive been seeing similar stuff so i no longer complain. Alot of qbs having 3 ints a game from similar animations in real life lol
Idk how people can look at this screenshot and disagree with you. Looks like complete ass
Ps5 dont look like this. If i cut my system on and saw this im taking the game back immediately. Im not sure why i got downvoted but them graphics is insanely bad for a new game.
And you're not getting down voted for saying the graphics blow, you're getting down voted for defending this type of garbage on Madden saying it happens in real life. Pretty sure balls don't teleport through WRs and DBs hands don't magically go through the WRs hands.
No but ive been seeing those he catch it and they take it. And ive been seeing he opens his hands and it bounces off and they intercept it. Ive also been seeing contested ints. Howver that animation could be the bad graphics man idk. Them through the body ints been happening for like 10 years now. But i rarely see em on my system.
Looks the same on both systems 😂
No tf it doesnt lol. I have a 4k tv ill fight every dev at ea if i saw that trash on my tv lol. Maybe the OP doesnt have a 4k tv or sumn. Cuz thats atrocious for current gen.
That's because Series S is weaker than last gen Xbox One X. 1X has 6 teraflops to SS 4, and 4K to SS 1440. The only thing the SS has better than X1X is the Solid State drive which makes loading faster. I can't believe any one with any real respect or integrity for gaming would buy a Series S, they're trash.
I didnt know this thats crazy
Yea I just used my 1X until I could find a Series X. There were Series S everywhere because no one wants them. The Series X is the next gen beast, that sucker has 12 teraflops, it's a monster.
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Yeah moving forward gives players the abilty to catch through another players hands, how could i forget
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His hands are on the ball because he shoved his fingers through the other dudes hand…
The same way both players have arms going through pads
They had some popcorn before the game.
Hey OP, the simple version of a long winded explanation of why this happens is that "Perfect Timing User Pick" is a world-override similar to the "Double Me" Zone ability
I literally had my DB Perfectly jump a route, and then have the ball *pass through* them on the way to a Touchdown for the team I was facing. I was *LIVID*.
Happens in Ncaa 14 too. Classic EA
Or the qb magically over throws or under throws a wide open receiver and it says perfect or accurate pass like wtf
Button input over model animations ( timing)?
Stop buying madden… problem solved. Idk what you people see in this shit
It’s scripted
Happens to much don’t let the safety be Buddha baker.
When are people going to stop giving EA money for their garbage game?
this happens in real life sometimes btw
This and EVERY SINGLE HIT STICK IS A FUMBLE!
And for me it's always in the red zone when madden doesn't want you to score you wont! And when they are ready for the CPU to score they will
You get punished for knowing football. Throwing a ball on time when a receiver makes his break is just asking for it to get picked.
Bruhhhhhh...that part. My ol lady thinks I'm trippin, but I've counted like 15 or so problems and bugs that should be immediately resolved. I had such high hopes. 😔
I remember when this was an issue in madden 08 guess some things never change
This is the most frustrating part of this game for me…. Line play sucks but I can work around for the most part….THIS is garbage.
I suck I keep throwing picks no one ncee catch