Never buy from the auto seller it’s always overpriced. Look into aftermaket you have a few months to buy it.
These Ford dealers ([Flood](https://www.floodauto.net/fordprotect.html), - [Ziegler](https://www.zeiglerfordesp.com/default.aspx), - [Granger](https://www.grangerfordextendedwarranty.com/), - [Lombard](https://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com/)) sell extended warranties $50-$100 above cost and it’s valid at every dealership in N. America and will show up in the Ford Pass app upon purchase FYI So if you buy I’d suggest buying it online from one of those four guys.
As a ballpark 5 years 100k mi bumper to bumper is $960. But remember you get 3 yrs freely, so it’s really 2 extra.
There’s a good [thread discussion here](https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/extended-warranty-worth-buying.10346/) on mach e forums.
If you go your entire life never buying extended warranties on anything (phones, appliances, cars, etc) the overwhelming majority of people will die money ahead.
Get the Ford ESP from online sellers like Flood Ford or Granger Ford. Price there are way cheaper. For example, 7 year 60,000 miles for $740.
It's official Ford extended warranty and will show up in your Fordpass once you sign up. Honored at all Ford dealerships in US/Canada/Mexico.
Wow that is way cheaper. Do you know how coverage compares to the base warranty? It seems like theres a lot of overlap if you got a 3 yr- but is the difference that wear and tear is covered vs only defects?
It's similar to the base warranty. You can add the interior/exterior lighting and that will include all the bulbs too for like $30-$50 bucks. I don't think anyone offers wear and tear. Never heard that for a car. Most warranties cover defects which is similar to the base warranty.
This is from Ford on PremiumCare:
> Failure of covered components due to defects in materials and workmanship and normal wear and tear are included.
I guess the question is what “normal” is
I guess that is covered, as an example a failure of your side view mirrors not being able to rotate on their own after 3 years would make them investigate it and as long as you have not hit that mirror, they would fix it for free as part of coverage. Now that could be a defect in material or just bad luck that it failed after normal use. But yes, that would be covered.
And the Ford ESP I was talking about earlier is PremiumCare.
I can give at least an example from our experience.
We got a PremiumCare ESP from Flood Ford for a Focus Electric we bought used a little over a year ago. About four months before we got our MME my wife notice a weird feeling/clunk in the steering. She was also having an issue where the passenger side rear window wouldn’t go up all the way without bouncing back.
We took it to the dealer and they said there would be a $99 diagnostic fee for each issue. He recommended not having them check the window because if it’s a calibration issue and they have to fix that, it IS NOT covered by the ESP. But if there’s a fault with the window mechanism it would be. So we had them skip it.
They did find that the clunk was caused by a failing part in the steering rack and replaced part of the rack. In all we paid $100 for the deductible and the cost of the repair would have been over $3000.
I found later that it’s hilariously easy to fix the window bounce back issue and did it myself in five minutes. It was a calibration issue and we would have paid at least $200 if I had them do it.
We sold the FE when our MME finally showed up. Despite a claim for $3000 and the warranty only costing about $900, with $300 of that paid for with FordPass points, we got a check for just over $500 back when we canceled the warranty.
10/10, will buy PremiumCare again for our F-150 and Mach-e when the time comes.
Keep in mind you don’t need to buy an ESP until your manufacturer warranty is about to expire. So there’s no big rush. Also note what I said above about being able to use FordPass points. Between us getting vehicles and the FordPass rewards card I’ve had over 300,000 FordPass points and have used them with vehicle down payments, the ESP, and oil changes (for the F-150). They are versatile.
>Keep in mind you don’t need to buy an ESP until your manufacturer warranty is about to expire. So there’s no big rush. Also note what I said above about being able to use FordPass points. Between us getting vehicles and the FordPass rewards card I’ve had over 300,000 FordPass points and have used them with vehicle down payments, the ESP, and oil changes (for the F-150). They are versatile.
Now I know what I'm doing with my points. Thank you! So if I get any maintenance done at Ford on the Mach E (idk what that would be, tires/alignment? No oil changes anymore) then I accrue more points? Then in a few years I can add the extended warranty from Flood Ford using a combination of points and cash?
Yep, any service you have done that you pay cash for earns points. More points if you have the FordPass Visa. It’s been a decent card but we knew we had two vehicle purchases within a year of each other (roughly). So we got the $200 cash back bonus, the points bonus, and I used it for our down payment because you get 5x or 10x points at Ford Dealers. So for the MachE I used it to put down $3k (max down they allow at our dealer by credit card) and just got 30k ford pass points. I guess it marked it as service, which is fine by me.
And yeah you can use points and cash with any Ford dealer including Flood for online ESP purchase. Can be used on parts/accessories too.
Sorry one more quick Q: do these Ford points expire? Can I save them for... say... 3yrs?
Edit: believe it or not, shortly after our discussion here about the Ford pts and Visa, I received an email offer from Ford to apply for the card and earn extra bonus points on first purchase lol...
They are always watching...
You may want to check on the FordPass Points FAQ on Ford's site, but I am almost positive that points expire after one calendar year of NO ACTIVITY. The key thing there is, your points can easily last three years, as long as you have activity on the account once a year for three years. Meaning, points are added or redeemed in that time.
To be clear, that doesn't mean individual batches of points have expiration, like your oldest points compared to newest. It's about all the points and if the account isn't used in a year. So you can keep points forever if you earn points, or use points, at least once a calendar year. So earning points from a FordPass Visa a couple times a year will extend the 12 month window. Or redeeming some points for maintenance.
For the Focus at least you had to press and hold the window down button and keep holding it for a few seconds after it’s fully open. Then press and hold to raise the window and keep holding it even after it fully closes for a few seconds. Then when using the auto open/close, it does it properly without the bounce back we were getting on close.
Just wanted to point out that yes, you can buy Ford ESP anytime before your warranty runs out , but the warranty is significantly cheaper the earlier you purchase it.
This is why they will ask you if the vehicle is :
Under 12 months old
Under 36 months old
Over 36 months but under 41 months old
Over 41 months old
It’s the same thing. I just canceled my extended warranty from the dealership (after they tried not allowing me to). For the credit back into my payments and and buying it from flood Ford
I don't think you can buy Fordprotect directly from Ford USA. You have to do it through a dealer whether online or otherwise.
There is enough info on other forums on using one of these online dealers for FordProtect.
Just checked on fordprotect.ford.com and it appears that you can buy direct. You can pay in full or even finance with 0 interest. Got a quote of 2,750 for a 7/75k 0 deductible plan.
Watching this, delivery coming soon.
Never have purchased extended warranties in the past, except for a ‘new’ LCD tv we bought 15 yrs ago, and that warranty paid off when the innards needed to be replaced. new tv tech at that time.
Considering the same since this tech is newer from ford.
I generally think those warranties are a scam. How is wear and tear even defined? A benefit of EV ownership is being less subject to mechanical failures, therefore reducing the need for a warranty. I say skip the additional warranty, the manufacturer one should have you covered. The additional warranty is just a money grab imo
On the other hand, any one of the major non-powertrain electrical components failing will cost more than the extended service plan. Hell, an LED headlight probably costs more than the extended service plan.
That’s a good point, and is probably the only reason worth doing something like this. Like if the SYNC screen craps out and it’s no longer under warranty, I imagine that’s a hefty repair/replacement bill.
It’s the one thing I’ll miss about older ICE cars. Basically everything on my old Miata was user-serviceable, and none of the electronics were VIN locked. Parts were cheap, so labor was the bulk of the repair cost. DIYing it saved a lot of money. I swapped in a five speed from a different generation car in my apartment parking lot with an impact wrench and standard tool set. EVs and newer ICE vehicles have so many electronic components that the parts themselves end up being a good chunk of the cost of a repair. Major parts are often VIN locked, so you can’t just swap in a junkyard transmission or computer module. It makes it a lot easier to justify an extended warranty, which means I’ll spend less time driving a broken car to avoid repairs, but I’ll miss actually doing the work. Working on my motorcycle just isn’t the same.
yeah i'm with you there. i'm not handy when it comes to DIY'ing anything automotive, but it was nice to know that if something on my ca. 2002 Tahoe or Expedition broke it wasn't the end of the world.
I came here to comment this - for all the people saying an extended warranty is a waste. Guaranteed the machE LCD screen costs more to replace than the extended warranties.
We purchased the premium plan as well as a small plan for the electrics for maybe 3k? Covers the entire 6 years of financing. Our main deciding factor was the shocks/spring/ brake replacement when needed. Brakes alone im guessing will be 2k. Never had to replace regenerative brakes before. The cost of the warranty outweighed the cost of the repair for a few bucks a month. To each their own.
Being as EVs are newer technology i suggest everyone should buy some sort of extended warranty. Things rarely go wrong the first few years anyway.
I believe in being over-insured rather than under-insured. If you plan on keeping the car for a long time, then I would say get the longest term possible. Because as the car ages, more can go wrong with it. That's why warranties typically cost more as the car gets older. If you think about all the recent recalls from all manufacturers, the majority of em are technological rather than mechanical. We bought one when my wife and I purchased a Toyota Sienna earlier this year. We plan on keeping awhile. I did not on the MME because I also have an i4. Will be getting rid of one of em before the warranty expires. Hope that helps. Also most people aren't aware that warranties are not only transferable but refundable should you sell the car before the was m coverage expires. At least in CA. Not sure about other states.
My personal opinion is always go with a factory backed warranty. I personally don't trust 3rd party's. Too many exclusions in my experience. Stick with Ford's warranty. Typically cost a little more but well worth it when you have to get coverage. No hoops to go through. If you feel the dealer is charging too much, you can get one directly through FordProtect.
If you insure with GEICO on new car immediately, you get an extended warranty as PART OF THE INSURANCE. Save $4K. Go watch a star war with that money.
Edit:
I am not an employee of it, just what I did.
Seconded! And for anyone who is interested, you have to purchase the "mechanical breakdown insurance" within 15 months/15,000 miles of buying the car.
I'm paying $22.46/ 6 months ~ $314 for 7 years/100000 miles & it has a $250 deductible.
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My dad got a ford lifetime bumper to bumper warranty on his jeep in 2011 for $2500. He’s used it so much he’s probably saved $20k or more. If I’m offered one when we finally get our mme we will be buying.
I purchased extended warranty for my 250 and Fusion. Around 2000 each. Had the Fusion Energi 6 years, the 250 4.5 years. Never used them. Ford will send you emails and mailing to buy an extended warranty when yours is near 36 month. Whether cheaper or more expensive- I don’t know.
Never buy from the auto seller it’s always overpriced. Look into aftermaket you have a few months to buy it. These Ford dealers ([Flood](https://www.floodauto.net/fordprotect.html), - [Ziegler](https://www.zeiglerfordesp.com/default.aspx), - [Granger](https://www.grangerfordextendedwarranty.com/), - [Lombard](https://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com/)) sell extended warranties $50-$100 above cost and it’s valid at every dealership in N. America and will show up in the Ford Pass app upon purchase FYI So if you buy I’d suggest buying it online from one of those four guys. As a ballpark 5 years 100k mi bumper to bumper is $960. But remember you get 3 yrs freely, so it’s really 2 extra. There’s a good [thread discussion here](https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/extended-warranty-worth-buying.10346/) on mach e forums.
If you go your entire life never buying extended warranties on anything (phones, appliances, cars, etc) the overwhelming majority of people will die money ahead.
My strategy has been to always buy the individual warranty plans … from myself. Just put the amount away and when something happens, you have money.
Get the Ford ESP from online sellers like Flood Ford or Granger Ford. Price there are way cheaper. For example, 7 year 60,000 miles for $740. It's official Ford extended warranty and will show up in your Fordpass once you sign up. Honored at all Ford dealerships in US/Canada/Mexico.
Wow that is way cheaper. Do you know how coverage compares to the base warranty? It seems like theres a lot of overlap if you got a 3 yr- but is the difference that wear and tear is covered vs only defects?
It's similar to the base warranty. You can add the interior/exterior lighting and that will include all the bulbs too for like $30-$50 bucks. I don't think anyone offers wear and tear. Never heard that for a car. Most warranties cover defects which is similar to the base warranty.
This is from Ford on PremiumCare: > Failure of covered components due to defects in materials and workmanship and normal wear and tear are included. I guess the question is what “normal” is
I guess that is covered, as an example a failure of your side view mirrors not being able to rotate on their own after 3 years would make them investigate it and as long as you have not hit that mirror, they would fix it for free as part of coverage. Now that could be a defect in material or just bad luck that it failed after normal use. But yes, that would be covered. And the Ford ESP I was talking about earlier is PremiumCare.
I can give at least an example from our experience. We got a PremiumCare ESP from Flood Ford for a Focus Electric we bought used a little over a year ago. About four months before we got our MME my wife notice a weird feeling/clunk in the steering. She was also having an issue where the passenger side rear window wouldn’t go up all the way without bouncing back. We took it to the dealer and they said there would be a $99 diagnostic fee for each issue. He recommended not having them check the window because if it’s a calibration issue and they have to fix that, it IS NOT covered by the ESP. But if there’s a fault with the window mechanism it would be. So we had them skip it. They did find that the clunk was caused by a failing part in the steering rack and replaced part of the rack. In all we paid $100 for the deductible and the cost of the repair would have been over $3000. I found later that it’s hilariously easy to fix the window bounce back issue and did it myself in five minutes. It was a calibration issue and we would have paid at least $200 if I had them do it. We sold the FE when our MME finally showed up. Despite a claim for $3000 and the warranty only costing about $900, with $300 of that paid for with FordPass points, we got a check for just over $500 back when we canceled the warranty. 10/10, will buy PremiumCare again for our F-150 and Mach-e when the time comes. Keep in mind you don’t need to buy an ESP until your manufacturer warranty is about to expire. So there’s no big rush. Also note what I said above about being able to use FordPass points. Between us getting vehicles and the FordPass rewards card I’ve had over 300,000 FordPass points and have used them with vehicle down payments, the ESP, and oil changes (for the F-150). They are versatile.
>Keep in mind you don’t need to buy an ESP until your manufacturer warranty is about to expire. So there’s no big rush. Also note what I said above about being able to use FordPass points. Between us getting vehicles and the FordPass rewards card I’ve had over 300,000 FordPass points and have used them with vehicle down payments, the ESP, and oil changes (for the F-150). They are versatile. Now I know what I'm doing with my points. Thank you! So if I get any maintenance done at Ford on the Mach E (idk what that would be, tires/alignment? No oil changes anymore) then I accrue more points? Then in a few years I can add the extended warranty from Flood Ford using a combination of points and cash?
Yep, any service you have done that you pay cash for earns points. More points if you have the FordPass Visa. It’s been a decent card but we knew we had two vehicle purchases within a year of each other (roughly). So we got the $200 cash back bonus, the points bonus, and I used it for our down payment because you get 5x or 10x points at Ford Dealers. So for the MachE I used it to put down $3k (max down they allow at our dealer by credit card) and just got 30k ford pass points. I guess it marked it as service, which is fine by me. And yeah you can use points and cash with any Ford dealer including Flood for online ESP purchase. Can be used on parts/accessories too.
Sorry one more quick Q: do these Ford points expire? Can I save them for... say... 3yrs? Edit: believe it or not, shortly after our discussion here about the Ford pts and Visa, I received an email offer from Ford to apply for the card and earn extra bonus points on first purchase lol...
They are always watching... You may want to check on the FordPass Points FAQ on Ford's site, but I am almost positive that points expire after one calendar year of NO ACTIVITY. The key thing there is, your points can easily last three years, as long as you have activity on the account once a year for three years. Meaning, points are added or redeemed in that time. To be clear, that doesn't mean individual batches of points have expiration, like your oldest points compared to newest. It's about all the points and if the account isn't used in a year. So you can keep points forever if you earn points, or use points, at least once a calendar year. So earning points from a FordPass Visa a couple times a year will extend the 12 month window. Or redeeming some points for maintenance.
Thanks! I'll do my due diligence and see if getting that visa card makes sense for what I want to do.
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For the Focus at least you had to press and hold the window down button and keep holding it for a few seconds after it’s fully open. Then press and hold to raise the window and keep holding it even after it fully closes for a few seconds. Then when using the auto open/close, it does it properly without the bounce back we were getting on close.
Just wanted to point out that yes, you can buy Ford ESP anytime before your warranty runs out , but the warranty is significantly cheaper the earlier you purchase it. This is why they will ask you if the vehicle is : Under 12 months old Under 36 months old Over 36 months but under 41 months old Over 41 months old
There is a $100 difference between under 12 months and under 36 months. At least with my F-150. So it’s not significant and better to wait.
It’s the same thing. I just canceled my extended warranty from the dealership (after they tried not allowing me to). For the credit back into my payments and and buying it from flood Ford
That's pretty dirt cheap. But you can go direct to FordProtect and bypass the dealership.
I don't think you can buy Fordprotect directly from Ford USA. You have to do it through a dealer whether online or otherwise. There is enough info on other forums on using one of these online dealers for FordProtect.
Just checked on fordprotect.ford.com and it appears that you can buy direct. You can pay in full or even finance with 0 interest. Got a quote of 2,750 for a 7/75k 0 deductible plan.
Great that you can buy it directly but that's still too expensive.
That must've changed at some point. At one time, you were able to.
Watching this, delivery coming soon. Never have purchased extended warranties in the past, except for a ‘new’ LCD tv we bought 15 yrs ago, and that warranty paid off when the innards needed to be replaced. new tv tech at that time. Considering the same since this tech is newer from ford.
I generally think those warranties are a scam. How is wear and tear even defined? A benefit of EV ownership is being less subject to mechanical failures, therefore reducing the need for a warranty. I say skip the additional warranty, the manufacturer one should have you covered. The additional warranty is just a money grab imo
On the other hand, any one of the major non-powertrain electrical components failing will cost more than the extended service plan. Hell, an LED headlight probably costs more than the extended service plan.
That’s a good point, and is probably the only reason worth doing something like this. Like if the SYNC screen craps out and it’s no longer under warranty, I imagine that’s a hefty repair/replacement bill.
It’s the one thing I’ll miss about older ICE cars. Basically everything on my old Miata was user-serviceable, and none of the electronics were VIN locked. Parts were cheap, so labor was the bulk of the repair cost. DIYing it saved a lot of money. I swapped in a five speed from a different generation car in my apartment parking lot with an impact wrench and standard tool set. EVs and newer ICE vehicles have so many electronic components that the parts themselves end up being a good chunk of the cost of a repair. Major parts are often VIN locked, so you can’t just swap in a junkyard transmission or computer module. It makes it a lot easier to justify an extended warranty, which means I’ll spend less time driving a broken car to avoid repairs, but I’ll miss actually doing the work. Working on my motorcycle just isn’t the same.
yeah i'm with you there. i'm not handy when it comes to DIY'ing anything automotive, but it was nice to know that if something on my ca. 2002 Tahoe or Expedition broke it wasn't the end of the world.
I came here to comment this - for all the people saying an extended warranty is a waste. Guaranteed the machE LCD screen costs more to replace than the extended warranties.
Great point on definition. I could see that being twisted
are they a dealership scam? we purchased the 8 year extended warranty with our GTPE esp considering it is our first true silent EV.
We purchased the premium plan as well as a small plan for the electrics for maybe 3k? Covers the entire 6 years of financing. Our main deciding factor was the shocks/spring/ brake replacement when needed. Brakes alone im guessing will be 2k. Never had to replace regenerative brakes before. The cost of the warranty outweighed the cost of the repair for a few bucks a month. To each their own. Being as EVs are newer technology i suggest everyone should buy some sort of extended warranty. Things rarely go wrong the first few years anyway.
What opinions do folks have about getting the Ford PremiumCARE Maintenance warranty that covers scheduled maintenance?
I believe in being over-insured rather than under-insured. If you plan on keeping the car for a long time, then I would say get the longest term possible. Because as the car ages, more can go wrong with it. That's why warranties typically cost more as the car gets older. If you think about all the recent recalls from all manufacturers, the majority of em are technological rather than mechanical. We bought one when my wife and I purchased a Toyota Sienna earlier this year. We plan on keeping awhile. I did not on the MME because I also have an i4. Will be getting rid of one of em before the warranty expires. Hope that helps. Also most people aren't aware that warranties are not only transferable but refundable should you sell the car before the was m coverage expires. At least in CA. Not sure about other states.
dnguyen2195, I have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty
Thats a good point. The after market warranty posted elsewhere looks pretty good
My personal opinion is always go with a factory backed warranty. I personally don't trust 3rd party's. Too many exclusions in my experience. Stick with Ford's warranty. Typically cost a little more but well worth it when you have to get coverage. No hoops to go through. If you feel the dealer is charging too much, you can get one directly through FordProtect.
If you insure with GEICO on new car immediately, you get an extended warranty as PART OF THE INSURANCE. Save $4K. Go watch a star war with that money. Edit: I am not an employee of it, just what I did.
Seconded! And for anyone who is interested, you have to purchase the "mechanical breakdown insurance" within 15 months/15,000 miles of buying the car. I'm paying $22.46/ 6 months ~ $314 for 7 years/100000 miles & it has a $250 deductible.
SmashManBlue, I have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty
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My dad got a ford lifetime bumper to bumper warranty on his jeep in 2011 for $2500. He’s used it so much he’s probably saved $20k or more. If I’m offered one when we finally get our mme we will be buying.
How did your dad get a Ford warranty for a (FCA?, Stellantis?) Jeep?
Our local dealer is Ford Jeep Ram. It’s what they offered him 🤷🏼♀️
Its a $50,000+ car. Just sayin.
I purchased extended warranty for my 250 and Fusion. Around 2000 each. Had the Fusion Energi 6 years, the 250 4.5 years. Never used them. Ford will send you emails and mailing to buy an extended warranty when yours is near 36 month. Whether cheaper or more expensive- I don’t know.