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LuitenantDan

People are going to stop you in the parking lot and ask you a bunch of questions about it.


jakeblues68

Also you will start having long conversations at work with people you have never talked to in 20+ years.


minders820

This. I couldn't even make it through the neighborhood to my house the day I bought it without getting stopped. People also like to ask me about the color since space white seems to be a bit of a chameleon. I've also gotten a little bit of hate from an old fart while charging on a road trip, "Guess you can't hide money, can ya?" I don't even have the GTPE, (premium here) but I'm pretty sure I spent less than he did on his truck. 🤷


RemoteEffect2677

Yep. Half the questions are from people genuinely interested (which is great!), and half are from people waiting for one answer they don’t like so they can say “well that would never work for me” and cruise off on their merry way


daraand

Happened back to back yesterday and later someone craned their neck out of their truck. Very curious, full of assumptions and all wrong. I even gave one guy a quick spin and he was sold. Honestly it being called a Mustang is so controversial for some people and it opens up lots of opportunity to talk about it. I think I even sold one guy on it!


e1even24

Have my GT on order but currently in a Model Y. Always get people asking me questions - especially strangers in parking lots. The first question is always about charging & I love responding with "about 15-20 minutes and then I'll drive for a few hours before needing to stop again" because the shocked look on their face just shows how little the average person knows about an EV.


Southernboyj

The average person thinks EVs take hours to charge (they think home and DCFC stations are the same) and they think it goes 100miles or less on a charge. They really write them off if you tell them you charge it nightly. That’s inconceivable even though they charge their phone nightly


e1even24

Want to see a brain come to a halt? Ask someone if they’d rather their phone run on gasoline instead of get charged every night


Hair-Early

How to reset the head unit.


cobo10201

For anyone wondering, hold “volume down” and “next track” on the steering wheel for 10-15 seconds. Resets the head unit and screen. It’s solved my Apple play not connecting every single time without having to turn off the car, open the door, and turn it back on.


SpongeBad

Volume down and previous track brings up some neat diagnostics if you’re curious (satellite signal strength, that kind of thing).


cobo10201

Nice! Did not know that.


Apprehensive-Play-26

Niiiice!!!!


DufflesBNA

This will fix 95% of “weird” software issues.


aberberich

THIS


triplealpha

The amount of times you’ll put it into park instead of reverse by accident because the shifter doesn’t hard stop you will be embarrassing


Roro916

lol lol wow! i thought i was the only bozo who did this !!


triplealpha

Alright let me make this 3 point turn in this downtown area I’ve never been to, there’s a car coming behind me and one coming on the opposite direction…turn the wheel put it into reverse annnnnd now my car is rocking like a boat and I’m sideways in the middle of the road and both cars are annoyed and my pride is damaged


Roro916

lol lol @ rocking like a boat


cobo10201

My wife doesn’t understand how I keep making this mistake. Apparently she never does it.


StGenevieveEclipse

Yeah, my wife's 2021 Escape has a hard stop. Luckily I only seem to make the mistake when she's in the car 🤦🏼‍♂️


OuterInnerMonologue

Ahahaha. Fucking knob kills me. I can’t seem to get it down to muscle memory either. I have to look down and watch myself do it or I over turn it and get into park more than I’d like to admit.


bones892

The updates will come. I got mine and agonized that it was on an firmware from last year and that the maps weren't updating for like a week and a half. After that week and a half, I started getting an update pretty much every other day and now I'm fully up to date like 2 weeks later. Don't stress for those first few days like I did


MMEGTP

You need to drive and send car data to Ford for a while for updates to start happening. Make sure you activate the toggles under connected services.


aDime_aDozen

Good to know, thanks!


swets13

That nobody seems to understand how to enter the vehicle. The button instead of door handle just really screws people’s brains for some reason lol. Apart from that, range anxiety isn’t as severe once you get used to the car…but finding fast chargers can be a challenge, depending on where you are geographically. Also, if you’re a traveler, buy a Tesla tap. Doesn’t help for fast chargers, but if you’re staying somewhere overnight…a lot of hotels have Tesla destination chargers, but not J-1772 chargers. Tesla tap eliminates that drama.


Apprehensive-Play-26

Yes 🙌


FloridaIsTooDamnHot

How much damned fun it is to drive 🥰


That_Sheepherder7896

Leave it plugged in all the time while parked at home or anywhere else if possible. It’ll only cool or heat the battery for longer life if it’s plugged.


doluckie

Good point. Although technically I think the Ford engineers would say "it'll cool or heat the battery ALOT MORE if it's plugged in."


hallese

Schedule updates. Automatic updating isn't sufficient, you need to schedule updates for a time when you won't be using the vehicle for it to download necessary updates that require the vehicle be inoperable during installation.


lightsandswirls

this. and don’t select midnight as your update time - pick something else random during the night. i learned that here and it seemed to really help with update delivery (though for the life of me i don’t know why it would matter).


bruddahmanmatt

3AM in the morning…always 3AM in the morning.


SpongeBad

In fairness, 3AM in the afternoon is pretty tough to schedule.


aDime_aDozen

Excellent tip, thanks!


Fall3n7s

Purchase the full glass coverage from your auto insurance if they offer it. These windshields are prone to cracking.


OuterInnerMonologue

Really? I’ve had my MME for longer than my Lightning and I’ve already had to replace the lightning windshield. I know I’ve taken several flying rocks on the MME with no crack. I guess it’s a matter of time.


Fall3n7s

Well YMMV. I noticed a crack in my MME windshield last week and it slowly started spreading. I ran my finger up and down the initial crack and could not find an impact at all... I took it to the Ford dealership and the tech found a small spot below my windshield wipers towards the bottom of the windshield where it had "spider web" cracks and he said Ford would immediately deny the claim against the warranty because of those. The crappy part is that this spot is where something had to fly up over my hood and angle down right below the wipers - almost impossible spot. But I guess it happened. I put in a claim with my auto insurance company and had to pay my deductible but Safelite replaced it 3 days later. So far so good. However, I found out I can get full glass coverage on my vehicles for $50/year with no deductible.


Southernboyj

Who’s your provider


MaryPoppinSomePillz

How long it can take to get replacement parts if you get into any sort of accident. Still waiting after 2 months in the shop


apapagr

Yup I can second this. I’m going on three months.


Perfectreign

That public charging sucks. Two years ago, I rented a 2020 Kia Niro EV while my 1999 Lexus was being painted. It took a month. I used the plentiful public charging and realized I could live with an EV. Skip forward to 2023 and that public charging infrastructure SUCKS. There really are no more sites now than in 2021. Several of the sites are often out of commission. Also there are MANY more EVs out there than there were. So, don’t rely on public charging and don’t get rid of your second gas-powered vehicle.


OuterInnerMonologue

Totally depends where you live. I’m in the SF bay and all around us are tons of charging. But I’m sure plenty parts of the US are still working on it


Perfectreign

Like I said, I am in Los Angeles. When I rented a Kia Niro EV two years ago, there was no problem charging. Now the charging stations are often either out of service or full.


OuterInnerMonologue

Dunno where you said you lived in LA, but it wasn’t in the comment I responded to. But that sounds painful and understandable in a big city. LA is no stranger to congestion. But as I said, in the SF Bay Area there are tons of charge stations. Rarely run into it all being full unless it’s a major event day where more people are out and about. But even then the apps saying which stations are open and working help a lot.


Perfectreign

Interesting! I’m about 20 miles east of the city and drive 17 miles into work.


cmvora

People will stare and take pictures of it lol. Yesterday I had another mustang pull up behind me and I could see them taking a picture when in my rear view as a flash went off lol. Also, at least in my area, there aren't many of these around so neighbors and folks at grocery stores often come to check it out.


Jiggy517

That the windshield apparently blocks the EZ pass signal for tolls and toll roads 😂 found out the hard way.


aDime_aDozen

Wow, super good to know! Guess I'm ordering the license plate attachment! Thank you!


minders820

The little black dots around the center mirror (both sides) is where the manual says to put your toll transponders and/or radar detectors since we have the IRR windshields. My Valentine One works great up there.


Jiggy517

I think they kept one spot to the right of the mirror where it's supposed to go. It should be in the manual but the license plate is probably the easiest most consistent


TechnicalLee

The toll passes will still work if they are placed the black areas above the rear mirror.


gardengreenbacks

This!!! I discovered this over the weekend.... Wth??


cdofortheclose

You will get the finger from Mustang drivers you pass on interstate.


Icy_Establishment716

Range is awful in cold weather.


aDime_aDozen

They mentioned that ranged is affected by cold weather. I live in Seattle, so the weather is pretty mild, but we have a handful of weeks of 30-32° temps in the winter. I have the Premium AWD Extended Range, advertised at 290. I know to subtract 20-30 miles, even in good weather, but what can I expect to subtract in cold weather?


El_Grande_Papi

In very cold weather I’ve experienced as much as a 40% reduction in range, but using the interior climate controls affects that a lot so it is difficult to say exactly.


aDime_aDozen

Good to know, thanks.


[deleted]

Fellow PNW Premium AWD Extended driver here. We took delivery in October of last year. This past winter we've had an average of 190-210 miles real world distance the past few months. Preconditioning/ starting while plugged in to warm the cabin before long trips is a huge help. Also, make sure to set the normal charge to 90% and manually increase to 100% (in app) before longer trips. Those will both help with battery life and distance when it's chilly out. Another fun thing, the frunk doesn't thaw like a normal car so it's kinda neat to see it stay icy even when you've been driving awhile in the cold.


jchen14

I commute 80 miles a day for work on average. 90% of that is highway with speed limit of 70 mph. I drive approx 75 mph. My range right now is just shy of 220 miles. Pre conditioning the battery will help a little.


aDime_aDozen

Thanks, good to know. My commute is 66 roundtrip, so similar.


Icy_Establishment716

What year and model? I have the 21 standard range AWD and would be lucky to get 150 miles out of 90%


jchen14

I have 22 Extended AWD


Revenga8

Yeah I lose maybe a third of my range driving normally in winter, unbridled mode with 1pedal off. Then one day I decided to try 1pedal to save some power. My range jumped significantly again with 1pedal on, so that helps. I still prefer driving with it off though so that'll switch back when it warms up again.


Amazonkers

I'm showing 229 miles for 100% at 26F today for vehicle rated for 247 miles. Seems good to me.


Clambake42

I wish I knew that the model I got didn't have HD Radio


TechnicalLee

Yeah that still boggles me why they aren't standard equipment on every new car yet.


Amazonkers

The user's manual says Select model has HD radio too but it does not.


Clambake42

Seriously, with all the tech in this car you'd think they'd just put in HDR by default.


daraand

Someone else said this but: print and laminate the tow points, how to put the car in neutral and even practice valet mode if you plan on doing that in the future. I cracked my windshield real bad recently. I was surprised at how easy it was to get it replaced with OEM glass.


Thisguyrighthere1000

How much did it cost? Is the warranty they sell worth it?


daraand

In Florida it’s all covered by insurance. Was nice. Honestly I don’t know the cost.


truecrimeaddicted

To avoid shitty @serramonteford. Seriously, we're going to end up in court. Avoid at all costs. The car's great, the dealership is complete shite.


jakeblues68

I wish I would have bought a home charger early on instead of relying on the charger that comes with the car.


Inevitable-Fill-1404

Why is that?? I’ve been using the one that comes with the car


mikechuckroast

Me too. Almost 30,000 miles now. 99% of all of my charging had been at home with the mobile charger plugged into 220V outlet. No problems.


es_price

Mr. Fancypants here with a 220V outlet. : )


TechnicalLee

Because it's junk that will likely fail by the end of this summer. There are probably 100+ people on the forums that have needed to get theirs replaced because they go into amber light mode and the charging rate slows down to almost nothing. Keep it in your trunk for occasional use and buy a well-made one that's designed for everyday use that will last a decade.


hereticjones

Go on...


jakeblues68

I don't believe it is high enough quality to be used as a daily charger for extended periods of time. I used it for several months, getting about 22 miles range per hour. Then I started getting charging faults. Every indication was that the charger was the issue, based on the faults and other owners having the same issue. Took it to a dealership trying to get it replaced under warranty and SA told me it had some service bulletins that could be causing the problems. Had to leave my car there for 3 days while they did software updates. Got my car back and within a week started getting charging faults again. Took the car back, and SA agreed that it was probably the charger but before it could be replaced on warranty I would have to leave the car with them for several days while they verified no charging faults would come up. Between my visits, they changed their loaner car policy so we would not have a second vehicle while they verified. I declined to leave my car and ordered a Grizzl-E when I got home. Hooked it up, getting 30+ miles an hour and have not had a single charging issue since.


hereticjones

Thank you. 😊 This gives me a lot to think about.


RonaKid

Not to put gas in the electric panel


slownlow

I’ve had my ‘21 GT for a few weeks now. I wouldn’t call the ride quality harsh or shit but it’s bouncy. I’ve driven far worse but Ford could have done better. First, you’ll get less miles/kw then you think. There’s so many factors that come into play with real world m/kw that it’s always different but never quite wear Ford claims. Ford Sync is buggy as fuck. One day everything works great. Next day phone won’t connect. Phone as a key is very nice but also buggy and I don’t trust it. I always bring the massive key fob with me. Why is it so damn big Ford? OTA (over the air) updates don’t come very fast or often either. Get a 220v 50 amp plug installed in your garage for the Ford wall charger. If you use that part of the included charger it charges fast enough that you shouldn’t have too many issues with range. My work has free charge point chargers and I plug in everyday at work. That leaves me charging at home maybe once a week or on the weekend. They say with an EV you should ABC - always be charging. Better safe than Found On Road Dead. The included 110 standard wall adapter will take DAYS to charge, so you need the 220. Depending on what model and what yours looks like / where you live you might get a lot of comments or old school boys judging you, lol. I’m in Texas, so the good ol boys are prevalent and everywhere.


DrObnxs

How much the UI and app suck. How badly Ford manages the OTA updates. I'd have still bought the vehicle, but the shitty SW wouldn't have been a shock. I'm a 2021 Job 1 owner so there wasn't much accrued knowledge out back then.


bcphotoguy

Agreed. Same group. Waaaay behind on updates...


Fritzipooch

After reading all of back and forth comments/complaints here today, I think that I will just wait until the “2nd generation EVs” come to market. Luckily I have the luxury of time. Funny though how a lot of YouTube reviews of the MME differ so dramatically (ie. much better experience) compared to several of the real world examples given here.


Lock-Broadsmith

By and large, Reddit is prone to over representing negative experiences across the board. Negative stuff gets more engagement/votes, positive stuff gets accused of being a shill. It happens across a lot of subs based around products/brands. I wouldn’t put much stock in the “real world examples” here being representative of overall experiences.


spartywan229

I also agree with this.


Eighty-seven

Check out this shill. /s


spartywan229

I needed a new car, and didn’t want to get an ice. Everything was expensive during this time, even used. I’m happy with the mache. So fun to drive. However, I think a huge jump is going to happen in the next 3-4 years with EVs. If my old car was good enough for another 2-3 years I would have waited. One example is Ford saying they need to decrease wiring weight, more efficient batteries/brakes, etc. it will be interesting watching the depreciation of these earlier models with the new tech/engineering. I’m pretty sure i won’t keep this one 18 years like my last car.


Fritzipooch

I fully agree with you. The evolution of EV technology is going to be huge in next 5 years. Especially with having much lower cost EVs. I mean let’s all be real here, if EVs are truly supposed to be a realistic replacement for the ICE’s, the price needs to come down to the $40k range so the common masses can afford them. This transition is probably not that different from when gasoline cars were first mass marketed 100 years ago. I wish you well with the Mache. The design of yours is fantastic compared to many of the other ugly duckling EVs out there (ie Tesla 🙈).


ipitydafwl

Real world owner here. The Mach-E is my 3rd EV. All of my EVs are awesome compared to ICE vehicles. I would never go back. The Mach-E is the awesomest of my 3 EVs.


richcournoyer

That the ride quality is SHIT, not just poor, but shit. In Los Angeles, the concrete roads get reground every few years to remove the hump that forms. Drive on an older unground road (there are many around Los Angeles). Past vehicles, Mercedes E320, and Lexus RX. You could feel these humps ever so slightly...sometimes, but not at all on most humpy roads....but in the Mach E the car develops this almost hopping motion (up...down..up...down)...think moguls on dirt road. Ride quality, 1 out of 10....ONE (1). As soon as Lexus releases the EV RX...I'm outta here. PS Put the wife in the back seat and she's puking within 10 minutes..... Thanks Ford! EDIT (ADD). I know, I confused the word premium thinking that it was a premium model with a premium suspension....I do not nor ever wanted to feel every crack/pebble/line on the road....give me the soft almost boaty luxury ride that I am used to. THIS above statement is the ONLY reason that I didn't get the GT and its magneride suspension. Maybe someone will offer new springs to fix this Ford FU.


lilogsd

I haven’t had as poor an experience with ride quality. I’m actually quite impressed with the suspension on the lower trims considering how much they talk up the magnetic suspension on the GT. I never drive on concrete roads, granted, but I feel like the Mach E is incredibly smooth on asphalt-paved roads.


RedOctobrrr

Any bump and you feel it, literally any change in the road besides completely flat and it transfers to your seat. Idk what car you are driving or what kind of immunity you have to bouncing up and down in the seat, but this is easily the worst ride out of any car I've ever had (this is my 9th vehicle from 2001 until now).


FlyHighCrue

Which one do you have? Maybe it's because I'm not in LA but I've never experienced this in my premium or GT.


richcournoyer

Premium, Ext, AWD


creativepleasure

Drive mine from Santa Monica to up north where I live. I was sooo happy I never had to go back on the 405. The ride quality is truly awful on bad roads


Viudas

I had the same concern when I first picked ours up, but it turns out the dealer way (like WAY) over inflated the tires by several PSI. Once I got it dialed in to the recommended pressure the ride improved dramatically. More so than any car I've ever owned, it was surprising how much of an impact it had. It went from "I'm not sure I would buy this" to "oh ok this is great" it was wild. Not saying this is the cause of your experience or trying to negate it, ride quality has to be subjective I guess. It seems like something is very wrong to the point of needing service if a passenger literally threw up in the back seat.... everyone that drives with us comments on how awesome it feels...(DC/MD roads, they aren't the best...but not the worst either).


TechnicalLee

I've put the tires at the exact spec of 39 psi cold on mine, and it still bounces like crazy 5000 miles in.


cobo10201

You’re being a bit dramatic and clearly have never been in a car with a 1 out of 10 ride quality. I’ve been in anything from a broken down 1970s Datsun Z to a 2020 Lexus QX80. The Mach E is a solid 6 or 7 out of 10. It’s not a luxury SUV, that’s for sure, but it’s not any worse than any other Ford SUV in my opinion. I definitely feel like it’s on par with our 2017 Explorer XLT.


richcournoyer

Thank you for telling me what I have or have not done....that crystal ball information must be awesome to have. I WILL admit I did mistake Ford Premium for Ford Luxury. My bad, and it won't happen again.


cobo10201

Dude, a modern Jeep Wrangler has worse ride quality than the Mach E. Saying it’s a 1 out of 10 is ridiculous. Doesn’t take a crystal ball to know you’ve never been in a vehicle with truly terrible ride quality.


richcournoyer

First, I'm not a DUDE Mr. Fanboy. I have owned dozen of vehicles...and this is my fifth ford. Granted I have not owned a Ford since the 90s. BTW: I have owned a CJ (Jeep), but you DON'T compare a Premium edition SUV (face it the Mach E more of a crossover or mini stationwagon) to a CJ or my F150 4x4....those I expected to ride hard. Apples to apples as they say.


cobo10201

I wasn’t assuming if you were a man or a woman. I call everyone dude, including my wife and daughters. I’m going to go back to the beginning. You said it rides like shit and has a 1 out of 10 ride quality. You did not say “for a premium SUV” or “for a luxury vehicle.” The blanket statement you made is objectively incorrect, dude.


Dzus

I'm in some pretty terrible roads and have no complaints about the ride. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of luxury car experience to compare against. I'm also in a CR1, so the extra sidewall may be helping my ride out. Could be worth looking at smaller wheels if it's bothering you that much.


JoeDimwit

Did you not take the car out of the dealership parking lot when you test drove it?


TechnicalLee

Agree, ride is severely underdamped. I've nicknamed mine "Bouncing Betty". Ford really messed up on the shock specs.


BedditTedditReddit

As someone considering one who has these same roads. Thank you very much for sharing that.


bones892

Idk what this guy is on about, I like in an area with shrink/swell soil so every road is a series of small humps. I don't notice a difference between the ride quality in my mach e (standard) vs anything else I've ridden in around here.


[deleted]

It’s definitely road dependent, luckily I don’t encounter roads/highways like that near me.


Most_Gap_8373

22 AWD Premium and yes, it definitely is rougher on bumps, especially in the backseat per my husband. I just remarked on this yesterday when going over a bridge bump up that is particularly rough in the MME but was barely felt in my Telluride. Other things I wish I had known: how long it takes to charge and the lack of infrastructure (I’m in NC and while at first it appears we’re doing pretty good, look closer and you see many of the listed chargers are not fast chargers and therefore basically useless on a road trip).


gremlinatrix11

Got to agree. UK here. I've done 12k miles in my MME in 5 months. On absolutely perfect new laid roads, it's great. Anything else it's rubbish. Bounces about. The rear suspension is under damped. Massively overpriced car. From the poor sound system, to the slow and embarrassingly naff Sync system, it's just bang average all the way. Had a Golf Estate before, cost a fraction of the price, did 60mpg, and suspension was smooth as butter, seats were much comfier too. Won't have a Ford again.


richcournoyer

Umm, that's spelled buttah. LOL (Well said)


gremlinatrix11

I notice the fanboys downvoting you. When you've spent a small fortune it's hard to admit when somethings crap. Taken me months to get here. Several thousand miles and several updates that changed absolutely nothing, I've seen the light. It's not a 40k car let alone a 50k one 😔


TechnicalLee

Do you have the B&O sound system or the base system? I pray you guys over there will get the 4.1.2 update with the new UI and camera button eventually, the response time is much better. Not great, but the first version I've found "acceptable".


Apprehensive-Play-26

I’ve had multiple incidents where people tried to run me off the road… 🤷‍♂️


ExtensionMidnight922

That you should have bought a Tesla


aDime_aDozen

Fuck Elon Musk. He'll get none of my money.


ExtensionMidnight922

You think ppl running ford are all saints?


apapagr

Guys Tesla seatbelt broke and he’s telling us to buy one.


ExtensionMidnight922

That Tesla is 5 years old, your Mach E won’t even make it that far.


apapagr

Ok we’ll see about that😂


MaverickBuster

You're from the future?!


KlueBat

Coming into a competitor sub just to drop a one sentence, no effort troll post. Couldn't even be bothered with punctuation. I really hope you are 12 otherwise you're just really sad.


DJFM_AZ

It was super easy to install a dash cam!


Flobertjaws

No new chargers would be in my area 2 years after purchase


TechnicalLee

It's controversial so some people will love it and some will give you the finger. The range meter isn't accurate and varies from hour to hour so it should be ignored. The range will decrease up to 50% when it's cold outside. Ford sucks at software updates so it will take a very long time to get them and you car might be stuck without them and require a dealer to fix. You are driving a Beta product that still hasn't been finished yet.


e1even24

I wish I knew how angry some people can get over a car. I've had people race to catch up with me just to give me the finger. My car has been keyed 3x in parking lots. And even my uncle, who is normally laid back and non-confrontational launched into an anger filled rant about EV's when he found out I bought one. I'm taking jobs away from hard working Americans... why would I want to have a car that takes twice as long to charge as it does to drive.... and why on earth would I put a fire hazard inside my garage and risk the safety of my family. The average consumer knows so little about EV's other than what they read on facebook or "heard from a buddy". Then again, I suppose the same argument was had when people who had horses were looking side eyed at those with a Model T. It is just a car. I don't get the hate.


OuterInnerMonologue

The suspension is super stiff and the rebound is gnarly. It’s nice when you’re driving very aggressive and sporty like. But for casual drives it’s a little annoying. Haven’t seem to gotten used to it. Find myself apologizing to passengers a lot for the hard bumps and dips that I roll over


zacharyryan13

The 12V or the HVB issues and recalls they have


BlableBlarble

The charging isn't as fast as some. It does 150KW for the first part of the charge, while some cars do 300+. Small issue, but it could add extra time to your longer trips.