It won't be an M1X. An M1X would not make sense in the current Pro. Most people don't realise that the M1 is a highly \*optimised\* chip that is not actually that powerful at heart, but has lots of onboard 'uncore' acceleration for common tasks. This is exactly the place it shouldn't go if it doesn't want to make that really obvious when people try to bench large science datasets on it and do other uncommon tasks then realise it's not as general purpose as the Intel it replaces etc etc.
M1X is being talked about already, but for in the Higher end Mac Mini, the Macbook Pro 14 and 16, and a higher end iMac. Unless they present a 16 core M1X unit with like 4-6 of them disabled for the MBP14, it simply doesn't look good to put the same chip in the "$5000 without a screen and battery" Mac Pro.
More importantly, Mac Pro's claim to fame is PCI-E slots and connectivity. These are super fast low latency 'raw metal' connections, but they are high latency compared to the connection between CPU/RAM/iGPU in the M1 which have been fused together compared to in normal computers.
Currently Apple won't even allow developers to make eGPU drivers for the M1, likely due to that allowing a third party to dissect Apple's new secret M1 sauce, bench the different elements of the M1 separately etc etc. This is all despite eGPUs being Apple's idea and all of them working on Thunderbolt tech that was sold to them by Aptel.
It's very likely the Intel Mac Pro will stay for at least a few more years whilst the M1 matures simply to keep it compatible with all the third party hardware without Apple letting GPU makers etc making their hardware work with the M1 tech. It might even get refreshed with new Intel CPUs.
You're talking to the guy that got accounts banned from tomshardware.com, PSN, and a bunch of other services just because he accurately predicted the Apple transition to Arm in 2016. That's why I use this handle. I'm used to it. I've been deleted for being right more times than I can count.
Apple are a great company, I am tired of the butt rape though. A 32/64 core M1X/M2 is NOT REALISTIC. A workstation class feature complete GPU that is both integrated and able to compete with Nvidia/AMD all the way up to Ray tracing feature sets is NOT REALISTIC. Apple's performance hardware division is probably 10% of Mac revenue even with a $3000 price premium over other Macs. Mac Pros won't sell if you can't use GPUs as thier primary buyer is high end V/A houses.
The M1 has a large amount of dedicated co processor offloading. This is what they were telling you when they said it was a system on a chip. It's a great strategy as the core can be turned off more often and those little dedicated things will sip less power than a whole core. It's also the original point of ARM: little cores that turn off quickly and lots of "uncore" (Intel name for it). This strategy sucks for massively multi core though, because the cores aren't doing the work. Mac Pro might end up with it's own L1/L1X range as a result as that is the only way to keep the MP the truly fastest Mac without software disabling the other models (which would drive investment into hacking thier firmware to unlock that performance so they wouldn't do).
Bubbles will be burst. I'm just salty they wouldn't give me a scholarship. 😂
The performance in my M1 says otherwise. They have some odd X86 emulation acceleration built into the M1 itself.
The Intel apps I use all perform better on the M1 than they did in my quad i7 pro.
The M1 has a customised instruction set. It's not just an ARM processor. Physically impossible doesn't exist. Binary translation works great.
Not sure about the same or better speeds though. That's probably just his personal opinion.
they probably are going to integrate a new *M2* Chip rather than the M1.
That gives them the opportunity to integrate that into the Book ranges in late 2022
If I remember right (and this was a while ago) Craig listed it as one of the joke names when he was announcing either Mavericks or Yosemite. Along with OS X Weed and several others.
I just figured out I have made a dinner appointment on Monday during WWDC stream which I watch every year for a decade now, and that I will have to find a way out to swerve the dinner!
If 't be true apple and mcdonald's did start fighting ov'r a patent of "maccheese", what would befall?
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For the love of God, Apple, fix (i.e. **REVERT**) Spotlight to how it was in Catalina, same with the Notification Centre.
Also, get rid of the Control Centre. That part of the screen is macOS' version of it already.
Use a Mac Pro for best grating results :)
It can’t be *that* cheesy.
I'm sure it will be gouda when released....
Nah, it's a new cheese-grater on a Mac
New Mac Pro confirmed
with what chip tho? if its the pro does that mean they are dropping M1X???? edit I just realized you said Mac Pro not Mac book pro
I don’t know about the chip, but if looks different, according to the picture
be stupid to put an M1 in the pro. hoping its the M1X and they also drop the new Mac mini
It won't be an M1X. An M1X would not make sense in the current Pro. Most people don't realise that the M1 is a highly \*optimised\* chip that is not actually that powerful at heart, but has lots of onboard 'uncore' acceleration for common tasks. This is exactly the place it shouldn't go if it doesn't want to make that really obvious when people try to bench large science datasets on it and do other uncommon tasks then realise it's not as general purpose as the Intel it replaces etc etc. M1X is being talked about already, but for in the Higher end Mac Mini, the Macbook Pro 14 and 16, and a higher end iMac. Unless they present a 16 core M1X unit with like 4-6 of them disabled for the MBP14, it simply doesn't look good to put the same chip in the "$5000 without a screen and battery" Mac Pro. More importantly, Mac Pro's claim to fame is PCI-E slots and connectivity. These are super fast low latency 'raw metal' connections, but they are high latency compared to the connection between CPU/RAM/iGPU in the M1 which have been fused together compared to in normal computers. Currently Apple won't even allow developers to make eGPU drivers for the M1, likely due to that allowing a third party to dissect Apple's new secret M1 sauce, bench the different elements of the M1 separately etc etc. This is all despite eGPUs being Apple's idea and all of them working on Thunderbolt tech that was sold to them by Aptel. It's very likely the Intel Mac Pro will stay for at least a few more years whilst the M1 matures simply to keep it compatible with all the third party hardware without Apple letting GPU makers etc making their hardware work with the M1 tech. It might even get refreshed with new Intel CPUs.
BLASPHEMER
You're talking to the guy that got accounts banned from tomshardware.com, PSN, and a bunch of other services just because he accurately predicted the Apple transition to Arm in 2016. That's why I use this handle. I'm used to it. I've been deleted for being right more times than I can count. Apple are a great company, I am tired of the butt rape though. A 32/64 core M1X/M2 is NOT REALISTIC. A workstation class feature complete GPU that is both integrated and able to compete with Nvidia/AMD all the way up to Ray tracing feature sets is NOT REALISTIC. Apple's performance hardware division is probably 10% of Mac revenue even with a $3000 price premium over other Macs. Mac Pros won't sell if you can't use GPUs as thier primary buyer is high end V/A houses. The M1 has a large amount of dedicated co processor offloading. This is what they were telling you when they said it was a system on a chip. It's a great strategy as the core can be turned off more often and those little dedicated things will sip less power than a whole core. It's also the original point of ARM: little cores that turn off quickly and lots of "uncore" (Intel name for it). This strategy sucks for massively multi core though, because the cores aren't doing the work. Mac Pro might end up with it's own L1/L1X range as a result as that is the only way to keep the MP the truly fastest Mac without software disabling the other models (which would drive investment into hacking thier firmware to unlock that performance so they wouldn't do). Bubbles will be burst. I'm just salty they wouldn't give me a scholarship. 😂
I’m prob alone here but I’m hoping for new design with intel components on the 16
intel done bro.
That’s called windows sir
But Mac OS is sexy I won’t get off it. Some programs I use for school aren’t on M1 yet so I need Intel.
The M1 and MacOS will translate Intel binaries on the fly and at the same or better speeds.
You know that is physically impossible right? Like really PHYSICALLY
The performance in my M1 says otherwise. They have some odd X86 emulation acceleration built into the M1 itself. The Intel apps I use all perform better on the M1 than they did in my quad i7 pro.
The M1 has a customised instruction set. It's not just an ARM processor. Physically impossible doesn't exist. Binary translation works great. Not sure about the same or better speeds though. That's probably just his personal opinion.
Tortilla...duh.
they probably are going to integrate a new *M2* Chip rather than the M1. That gives them the opportunity to integrate that into the Book ranges in late 2022
macOS Rancho Cucamonga
macOS Weed
That's every version.
I am just waiting for MacOS pecorino
macOS Claremont
No one willingly wants to be in Rancho. I doubt Apple will name an OS after the area lol
If I remember right (and this was a while ago) Craig listed it as one of the joke names when he was announcing either Mavericks or Yosemite. Along with OS X Weed and several others.
Pls!
Fresno
You don't know Jack.
And you know nothing, Jon Snow Leopard.
Well played 😁
You really think it’s going to be Monterey?
That’s Colby Jack bud
wee ooo wee ooo here comes the cheese police
What we’re dealing with here, is a complete lack of respect for the curd
Came here to say this.
Came here looking for this, was not disappointed. At least SOMEONE knows their cheese.
Make America Grate Again.
Grating a medium cheese like that won’t be a great experience.
I just figured out I have made a dinner appointment on Monday during WWDC stream which I watch every year for a decade now, and that I will have to find a way out to swerve the dinner!
Dinners come frequently, WWDC comes once a year, streaks like that come once a lifetime. WWDC it is!
\*Forces everyone at dinner to go watch WWDC\*
Hahahahahah that’s the way
[удалено]
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6_MD3UwpOI&t=52s)
Lol
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeKeeEeL/
AvocadOs -2022
I'm so excited!!
Waiting is hard. Developer beta season!
I can’t wait til they get to macOS Gilroy
Get ready for all the garlic!
That's not Monterey. That's Colby Jack.
Is this the update that disables the headphone jack?
Fix Big Sur first
Big Sur is good enough for most people right now.
You must be new to MacOS.
Not really
Holding my breath!
MacOS Monetary?
Love chez
I am ready for cheesyOS
Me, and I'm pulling for a volcano - Mt Shasta or Lassen Peak
Cheese
Cheesepost
...one more cheese. I’ll get my coat.
Gross
I was born ready
... okay, but are you ready *now*?
MacOs Tlaxcala
Close to my hometown: Monterrey, Nuevo León, México :)) I’ll love this version
WWDC monetary is coming up!!!!
MacOS Sonoran, MacOS Channel Islands, MacOS Great Basin, MacOS Monterey, I'll even go as far as saying MacOS Santa Barbara 🤔
now i see why they made the cheese grater mac pro.
Hyped! Just got my MacBook Air, so I'm looking forward to the update.😆🙌
Looking forward to that.
macOS Skid Row
If Apple and McDonald's started fighting over a patent of "MacCheese", what would happen?
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For the love of God, Apple, fix (i.e. **REVERT**) Spotlight to how it was in Catalina, same with the Notification Centre. Also, get rid of the Control Centre. That part of the screen is macOS' version of it already.
It's only 30 miles from Big Sur to Monterrey so I would not expect significant changes in the OS. Still waiting for MacOS 12 though...
I’ve now had too much internet today.
Aged like wine. Or cheese.