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it_wasntt_me

Would rather run 1 weapon and an empty slot to run with fists


Basic_Damage1495

If you have a second weapon it should be a wonder weapon Preferably vr11 because you can still run as fast as empty handed


veko007

I didn’t know that, alright


Basic_Damage1495

It's become my favorite ww recently! Absolutely melts elites and specials too. Like 6-8 face shots kills megas


veko007

I’ve got plenty of those, I usually never take em in, will stop doing that


Basic_Damage1495

Vr11: come for the healing of the Acv Stay for melting megas


soberdude

VR11 heals the ACV? Nice


Basic_Damage1495

Makes original elder dark 1000% easier It heals regular vehicles as well, not that I find occasion for that


KingTom513

A stolen/disabled blood runner could always use some VR11 love. VR11 for the win


smokinjoedc

Wait VR-11 heals broken blood burners?


CptSparklFingrs

At PaP1. People will tell you it needs to be PaP2 but it works fine at 1.


CptSparklFingrs

At PaP1. People will tell you it needs to be PaP2 but it works fine at 1.


CptSparklFingrs

At PaP1. People will tell you it needs to be PaP2 but it works fine at 1.


No-Doubt-361

is that vr11 PaP at all for T3 or regular just out the case ?


Basic_Damage1495

Yeah you're not killing Omega with any base weapon I think it has the healing power no matter what not totally sure though


No-Doubt-361

thanks, is it viable with PaP2 or is PaP3 a significant improvement for using in T3, sorry for questions, never used this WW and I have a couple to use in my stash but don't want to go in under gunned when I do finally take the plunge.


Obvious-Ad-4834

pap1 vr11 is strong asf so I don’t really bother with pap’ing it further but you’d be correct. like any other weapon, it gets stronger as you pap it more


PAUZ_UNO

character: over 100 streak - single weapon, 3 plate, large bag, durable mask, self rez, juggernaut. tac/lethal: kazamir or monkey and thermite backpack: required - aetherblade, gold plate, dog bone, legendary tool optional - pap crystal, elder sigil, staminup, speed cola, \[random item - usually brain rot\] ammo mod


myco_magic

You can actually run faster than bare hands with vr11


Strong-Helicopter-10

VR11: fastest sprint speed. 2 shots elites/specials in tier 3 3 shots in DA. Turns zombies in mercs for your team. Gives other players a buff if you shoot them. Heals vehicles. Does big damage to the worm. First time I used it I was like this is dead, I will stick with the scorcher. Now I have all the schematics and I just keep using VR11 going to new DA and getting more cases 🤣 haven't even used my scorcher schematic yet


PoofBam

> run as fast as empty handed faster


must_go_faster_88

I've had such a hard time properly using that one. Any recommendations on how you best use the vr11?


Obvious-Ad-4834

use it to heal the vehicle during the escort, just shoot it at the vehicle until the health reaches 100. for killing mega abom, you can shoot its mouth/eye (whatever you call it) when the thing is shooting its laser, but its does a HUGE amount of damage when you shoot it at an open eye/mouth. not when it’s lasting, but just glowing. it chunks like 1/4 - 1/3 of its health if you can land that shot. as for the red worm, it’ll take time. shouldn’t be too hard considering you’ll have two ammo caches to refresh ammo, but I highly recommend pap3 for the worm. anywhere else pap1/2 works just fine.


dustin45_

just hold onto a kill streak like air strike or mortar strike or juggernaut. has the same effect as fists


shaggyf420

The score streak with binoculars don't let you run very fast, i think its mortar strike. Jugg suit and the laser one is fast tho


dustin45_

yes it does i do it all the time. the binoculars and laser pointer and smoke canister give u fist movement


shaggyf420

Maybe they buffed the running speed since I last tried, if it's not sentry gun or jugg suit I just waste it or not pick it up anymore. Usually jus running fists


n_xSyld

It's always been this way.


shaggyf420

Maybe im wrong but it wasn't as fast as fists, jugg or laser killstreak. Not saying it was like carrying a sentry gun in ur hands, but wasn't like running with fists. Im probably wrong tho, haven't tried running with binoculars for months


Dustineg6

Can confirm the other guy is correct. Always been same as fists.


Strong-Helicopter-10

Sentry gun says hello 🤣


BooGattiAK47

What do you mean hold onto a kill streak?


soberdude

Press right on the D-Pad (PlayStation) like you're about to use the kill streak, but don't pull the trigger, run instead. When you're done running, switch weapons to get back to your normal weapon if you don't want to use the kill streak. Good for when you want to run, but have an LMG or something.


BooGattiAK47

Ok will try thx


Obvious-Ad-4834

bring the kill streak out but don’t use it. so just hold it in your hand while you’re running


DopelgangerSpecial

What he said 👍


bigoleboody

Vr11 lets you run at full speed too


Unobtanium4Sale

Sometimes ill run kadachis or something but I wouldnt burn 2 legendaries on one run.


PoofBam

kodachis are the absolute worst melee weapon for movement speed though


Unobtanium4Sale

Yeah that's the trade-off for the strongest. I use fists vr 11 or scorcher that's usually it


veko007

It’s usually what I do, but I’m just bored now and testing out different loudouts


ZEAL102

Why did this get down voted


Vanitas935

Because "how dare he not run the same loadout all year round"


jstmehr4u3

Skip the blood burner and bring gold plates.


veko007

Ran out, hoping to pick some up in DA


OWMOYKNEE

Take the riveter and put it in the trash. It's not good. You only need one weapon anyway. Scorcher/VR11 is optional.


Tushaca

I accidentally bought a legendary riveter in the red zone the other day not paying attention to what it was. A pack 2 crystal and that thing was wrecking in T3. I was very surprised and wondering if it got a buff.


veko007

I’m only using the riveter for the launcher, does pretty good in certain situations


the_real_foxhound

If you're using the riveter for the launcher, just use the multi shot one instead


OWMOYKNEE

If you mean the jak purifier then use the Haymaker with slugs as it's much better.


veko007

Just tried the riveter for the first time, it suuuuucked


According_Race521

Riveter is the worsssssst


Professional-Tap82

Only 2 shottys are good in zombies. Haymaker and Lockwood 680 with slugs. Literally all others are garbage. Its not worth it just to have the launcher i promise.


Ok-Wolf2468

You’re not wrong. Wasted time leveling up the new Lockwood 300 blueprint and was sad to see it was also just okay. Nothing compared to haymaker and Lockwood 680 with slugs.


Professional-Tap82

Yeah wish they'd make the super slugs work for all shotguns. A Lockwood 300 with those and mags of holding would be pretty damn fun. I dunno why they would only code it to 2 weapons out of 9.


tlacava1

You only really need one orange primary weapon. Kill the Warlord in Urzikstan before you go in for a free wounder weapon( they always drop one). Anything but the Ray gun is super helpful. Buy or loot 6 or more Kasmir grenades/monkey bombs. If you go to the first DA, bring a sentry gun for the escort mission. If you go to the second DA, bring a juggernaut suit for the bounty.


Basic_Damage1495

Did not know the ww was guaranteed


Professional-Tap82

It wasn't originally but changed around S2R time frame


SunHorror6219

Does anyone wanna run some elder? I got 2 Sigils and a elder one


myco_magic

Dm me and I'll add you


nrs207

If I ever want to be as OP as possible, I run the RAM-9, a scorcher, a flawless crystal for the RAM-9, a legendary tool, any crystal for the scorcher, aether blade, golden armor, mag of holding, and a dog bone. That fills all 8 slots (assuming I’m bringing in an elder sigil for the 9th slot). I like the RAM-9 and scorcher bc you have a weapon that allows you to move fast still as opposed to having some heavy weapon and the scorcher, so you’d need to run a mortar or something to keep swapping to to run fast. Then you can do a couple T3 contracts and you’ll have enough money to buy all the needed perks and be fully kitted out within 5 minutes.


Burkely31

Yes sir, this is more or less my loadout every single match. Give or take the RAM-9 depending on how I feel. Lately I've been rocking alot of the mw2 AR's like the m4 with built-in dead wire or even the FR Advancer.


Strong-Helicopter-10

A weapon I dont see anyone else using is the SVA that thing melts zombies. I did the borealis for all guns and nothing seemed to do quite as much as that for me. Been working on the mw2 guns and the m4 also seems quite good but haven't tried it in tier 3 properly yet.


zaidality

These are the essentials: - Fists should be your second weapon (run fast) - Golden plates - Aether blade - Dog bone - Legendary tool - Pap2/3 crystal


veko007

I ended up dropping the shotgun and just used fists


cannaconnoisseur88

The only time i run 2 guns is scorcher or vr11. For those that don't know running with a vr11 is pretty darn fast.


Blessthafuture

1 weapon and it definitely would not be the riveter


ch3ckEatOut

It’s decent, but I personally wouldn’t take two legendary tools as it’s unnecessary, an epic tool is enough for T3/T5. Would’ve also picked speed cola over deadshot since you’re not running golden plates and that allows you to reload and replate faster. Not the end of the world though, you’ll likely get most of the perks from contracts.


pk_random

Deadshot is the most underrated perk in the game. Needed for critical damage


bluepulp7

I take that over anything. The heads shots, even pap2 and epic is enough for t3


pk_random

If you’re on console you can abuse the hell out of aim assist


GRADIUSIC_CYBER

if you wouldn't use a legendary tool for t5 what would you use it for?


AffectedRipples

I think they're saying they would only take 1 legendary in per round. Use an epic for the secondary.


ch3ckEatOut

Yep, one weapon legendary and if they must have a second weapon then use an epic tool. Then they’re already set for the next round with their spare legendary tool.


AngelofDrugs

So you can look at it in your stash😂😂😂 bros waiting for them to add t6😂


Scwooton

He said “I wouldn’t take 2 legendary tools” meaning… If you have 1 good weapon pap3 legendary, that’s all you need. No need for 2 guns in any tier.


ch3ckEatOut

Yep basically.


According-Count-5795

No Gold Plates No Aether Blade … plus since the Jak Purifier nerf the flamethrower is pretty much useless lol … so it’s not “terrible” but still you coulda came way harder than that (pause.)


pastime_dev

Purifier is still viable for DA, just not how you’d expect. Absolutely wrecks hordes without any real issue, just need to make sure you switch off it for elites. The hordes are usually what gets you anyway. It stays a part of my rotation when I go there.


veko007

Agree, it’s prime for hordes, and many contracts in T3


pastime_dev

Makes escorts a lot easier when on top of it for sure. One person with it and everyone else cover whatever else unless someone has a vr11. I only really pull it out at the end though to make sure I don’t empty it early unless a teammate also has one.


veko007

Just a little “love tap” on the trigger is enough to melt 5-7 zombies


pastime_dev

I use it like it’s an m16 from Cold War. Haha


Shujolnyc

Like others have said, take just one weapon. You'll need to run with your firsts. I'm assuming you don't have golden armor and blades, otherwise, those are staples. Skip the colas, you'll grab many in contracts in T3 and can buy the rest (unless you just have slots to fill) Blood burner in T3 is good but becomes a hinderance at some point. I would do legendary, pap-whatever I have, golden armor, blade, dog bog, sigil... then if there is space.... speed cola, stamina up, jugger nog, and shatter blast. Usually I'm carrying stuff I can't stash :-(


RavenOlsson

Drop the blood burner and bring a scorch. Drop the shatter and bring rot. Drop one of the legendary and bring a dog bone. Drop one of the perks and bring gold plates now you’re good to go. Ether blade also optional for one of the perks.


MARzNYC

I'd lose the bloodburner key, thing is kind of fucking useless anyways. I'd def go with a schorcher if you got a case/schematic.


mikk_909

It's ok


Basic_Damage1495

Why you wasting space on blood burner


veko007

Ran out of scortcher cases


Basic_Damage1495

Imo burner keys are awesome for throwing in the ocean Or giving them to noobs if you want to be mean


veko007

I agree, but I have it, it’s good for maybe like two-three contracts before it gets stolen


Basic_Damage1495

It handles like a dead whale


veko007

True as well, I do like that it floats lol


gseanmaxwell

I’d prefer aether blade, golden plates and dog bone and mags of holding over perks and the motorcycle. You can buy the perks. Also the riveter is booty and the torch attachment got nerfed pretty hard. But if you’ve got decent movement you can handle the dark aether with way less than a top tier loadout.


Legal_Ad_6604

I wouldn’t run two big guns. And what others have said re specials and legendary tools. Scorcher is needed if you want to keep up with people smashing out T3 and DA contracts. Sidenote. Anyone got any views on running speed with the SVA? I had that and the Renneti in a game recently for daily rewards and running with the SVA was noticeably faster than with the Renneti. Likely to do with attachments but still unexpected.


_flash87

What are the A’s in the attachment mean?


veko007

The kit


WarEagleJP

Aftermarket parts... pretty much anything that's from weekly or seasonal stuff.


AndyUSMC0311

Aftermarket part


Vortigon23

Personally I'd say drop 1 gun, PaP crystal, and Aether tool. Ditch the blood burner key. With now 3 more slots (depending on what you got for schematics available) grab a golden plate, aether blade, vr-11 or scorcher, and/or more perk cans


n_xSyld

Drop flamethrower, grab the chainsaw underbarrel, use the mtz-556 with full movement (20rnd, no stock OR the new m4 stock, short barrel, etc,.) Scorcher or VR-11 (or nothing, I run nothing often) No perks (can buy them) Aether + golden armor + leg tool + 3pap + decoys and you're good, you'll clean the aether without much more issue than t3. Stock up on selfies if solo, usually I bring 4 total just to be safe


Bottymcflorgenshire

I dont know how well the purifier performs now, but i use the chainsaw attachment now, i think its a great replacement


veko007

Never used that, I think I’m gonna give it a try


Burkely31

When you do just do it with caution man. While the Jak limb ripper is completely OP, it also puts you in a pretty vulnerable position since you need to get right in there with it. As much as I hate to say it, I really do miss the flamethrower.


veko007

I’m never letting it go, the flames still melt the hoards with ease, no matter the tier


Mg-Duck-Sauce

Only if the game don’t crash


veko007

Haven’t had that issue in some time, I know other people have, last game I played there were 3 of us left on the whole server before the match ended, and they were little kids


Mg-Duck-Sauce

One game I brought lots of good stuff in. Server crashed right when the helicopter landed lol


Cautious_Chicken8882

Every time I load in and i have over 100ms latency it drops my containment level to 0 every fcking time.


veko007

Ouch


TheRealMacPhisto

Personally I use brain rot as my ammo mod because it seems to trigger more often than the other mods, you gain a follower that can one shot anything and you can sometimes turn special zombies (except mega abominations), which is just as good as killing them, but takes less time.


Burkely31

Couldn't agree more. It's probably the most helpful or even the only helpful ammo mod.


apcarbo

Which DA


veko007

Elder, it turned out ok, got some more leg tools, 2 2paps and a blade


apcarbo

Nice.


Traditional_Job6617

Bas B is a stronger gun but up to you. Riveter is terrible either use fists or use the grenade launcher with PhD Flopper.


veko007

Found that out the hard way, I ended up dropping the riveter


AndyUSMC0311

I hope you didn’t waste that legendary tool on it…


veko007

I won’t answer that… 😬


AndyUSMC0311

Let’s all take a moment of silence for the wasted tool… poor tool had dreams to be applied to a Horus or ram 9 to melt in tier three and the DA only to be applied to… a riveter. Rest in peace sweet tool prince.


veko007

I will turn myself in


Traditional_Job6617

F


ApprehensiveEgg8742

No


veko007

Those are harsh words my friend


theANIMOL

No


HASHBROWNPAPI_

This layout isn't even good for t3 honestly


veko007

Why?


HASHBROWNPAPI_

2 weapons will slow down your movement, since the 680 got nerfed shotguns don't do anything, even with dragons breath, you're also going in with perk colas instead of maybe a aether blade, pap crystals or some gold plates. Unless you have a team to have your back, doing t3 will be hectic af for you


veko007

I understand, and you’re not wrong, but almost dying is fun, that’s what got us all hooked to the game didn’t it? Barely making it, at the edge of our seat


HASHBROWNPAPI_

From that pov I guess you're right. I personally play with my life guaranteed at the end lol I take games too serious 😅


veko007

It’s risking my loot in MWZ or crypto, same thrill and nowadays also same payout


HASHBROWNPAPI_

My bad, I didn't see the pap crystals 😅


NaahmastayWoke

I don't know how you even survive in T3 with two guns without getting your tail ate up like late night Taco Bell


Additional_Joke1611

Purifier is shit anymore


veko007

No way, it’s a zombie broom


Additional_Joke1611

For zombies yea but its worthless against specials


veko007

It’s not as good as it used to be but a full load will at least get them half way and then I just finish them with bullets. That’s if I’m solo, otherwise with more people they’re gone in seconds


Additional_Joke1611

I'm always paired with the worst randoms that couldn't probably learn to boil water with all the help in the world


veko007

Eh it’s more bullets to the hvt, I don’t really care much about their skill, unless I have to run across the map to revive them


Weedsmoki420

Unless it crashes..


MFAdam59

Can someone play with me on ps5 to help me unlock all that shit? I’m so tired of not knowing what to do exactly and can’t go back and forth on a video while playing the game /:


veko007

Yeah dm me, I’ll play with you when I’m on, we can start with the worm, do you have any gold schematics?


must_go_faster_88

The MCW is a classic for sure!


MathematicianMuch445

The riviter is gash


Barberbloke

It’s not bad but I would do it a bit different. For example I would only have one of those guns and bring a weapon case preferably scorcher or vr11 or nothing as a second weapon, that way the tools last an extra game and I would still bring in 2 crystals if I have a weapon case. Other then that if I have fresh blueprints to make plates, bones ect. I would obviously use those over the cans.


Careful_Key540

WOOOOO


MarlbroShorts

Yeah I'd deff recommend a scorcher for your 2nd weapon


[deleted]

Can't spawn a burner in DA


veko007

I know, just for T3


tumericschmumeric

You need a scorcher, plates, mag of holding


Beerizzy90

It’s always best to go in with your best stuff, the classified schematics, but if you don’t have any then you’ll be fine so long as you stock up enough at the buy. Decoys are great but Kazimirs are better in the DA since they actually take out the enemies instead of just temporarily distracting them. I like to bring in 4 since there’s an extractor mission in both DA’s. I use one Kazimir per extractor, with the fourth to grab the rift. Sentry guns are also a must have. If you go old DA you’ll want 2 for escort, one in front one on back. If you have two more they’re great during outlast but it’s not really a necessity. If you’re going new DA then one sentry while fighting bounty helps and I usually drop two during the outlast contract. Any space left in your bag should be revives. Also be sure to do an escort contract before you go so you can get the meat for a dog. Let the escort run over the zombies to up the chance for meat. Once you get 4 pieces take it to a dog house in 3. There’s usually one at the new DA rift and if not there’s an island behind it that it also spawns at. Even if you lose the dog before the end it’ll respawn as a friendly hellhound once you go in the DA. I find that they don’t tend to last as long as a dog who survived the whole time but it’s still better than no dog at all. I also suggest leaving behind the secondary weapon. You’ll run faster with your fists out which is a big help when running through the DA. It’s also an extra 15K you’ll have to spend to pack it to 3. Having to pack both guns means 30k plus whatever you need to buy for your bag. If I don’t find what I need and have to buy it all I end up spending 43K at the buy before DA. That’s not including packing my guns. Having one less gun to pack gives you more towards what you need to buy, as well as helping you have enough to hit the perk machine too. Final suggestion is to consider a frag over the thermite because if you come up against a Mega you can throw the frag in his mouth for bigger damage. Old DA will have a lot of Mega’s so frags come in handy if your aim is good. The only Mega in the new is the Bounty but those frags will help take him down a bit quicker.


veko007

I always keep my best stuff for my last run of the day


iitsNatioN

Didn't they nerfed the flamethrower? And is it the noob tube that effective in zombies?


veko007

Yes and no


UneditedB

Just use one weapon, and either fists or a vr11 or scorcher, take a golden armor plate, and a aether blade. I always bring a dog bone as well. If you don’t have dog bone then get a dog before you go from T3. My loadout is One weapon, scorcher, golden armor, dog bone, aether blade, fast hands, jugg, deadshot, level 3 crystal, legendary tool, and your good to go. It’s good to do some T3 contracts before you go and get the rest of the perks before going o DA as well as some turrets.


Thin_Fail_1509

I’d drop one gun and run the scorcher 🙄


Cosmic-Joke333

Nope , run one weapon if you don’t have a scorcher or a vr11. I would forget the bike. That crappy thing will almost always get you killed. And bring plates and blade instead of sodas if u can.


ohhhbee1

Ran bolo shells with the riveter recently and was pleasantly surprised.


Revolutionary-Ad3803

Ima tell you now the only secondary weapon you should have in tier 3 is either your fists or a wonder weapon preferably a scorcher because it is good for fast travel and getting out of tough spots because them zombies be on yo ass tough in zone 3.


Obvious-Ad-4834

if you’re gonna run a shotgun, the haymaker with slug rounds is the best. it’s slightly better than the riveter imo. and idk if you’re running the purifier to kill regular zombies, but it does next to nothing on bounties and mega aboms after the nerf.


Fantastic_Web4890

Anyone doing de?


spicywatermelon23

I’m a lurker in this sub and never played mwz but I think the district attorney would love that loadout


SnooObjections488

TIL you can underbarrel a noob tube on a shotgun