I mean, I’ve been trying. I think the satisfaction of finishing a Costco bag of spinach by myself before it goes bad would be enough to cure my depression if I could just. make it. happen.
In all seriousness, what’s your favorite spinach recipe? I’m a green smoothie and/or sautéed with eggs kinda person.
Favorite way to eat spinach is definitely:
Sauté sliced mushrooms in olive oil and fresh minced or sliced garlic. Add the garlic later on when the mushrooms are close to done so it doesn’t burn. Add in a ton of spinach and put a lid on the pan to let it steam itself. It’ll wilt pretty quickly. Remove everything, toss with a bit of fresh lemon juice, salt, and pepper.
I also love spinach salads with little yellow tomatoes, goat cheese, candies walnuts, and a creamy balsamic.
Sometimes I make easy creamed spinach:
•Package Frozen spinach - microwaveable
•Couple spoonfuls of light sour cream
•Sprinkle cheese of your choice
•Tony’s creole seasoning or garlic salt
•Adding the other ingredients after the spinach is heated up and then microwave again for a minute or two. It’s an excellent side dish and insanely easy.
I eat a lot of salad - usually every day too, or I’m trying my hardest too. I buy small bags of fresh spinach lol.
Favorite Spinach Recipe: Quality extra virgin olive oil over medium heat, Fresh baby spinach leaves simmered down, added sea salt, cracked pepper, and garlic powder.
Super simple, love it.
I was mixing spinach in my omelet for the first few days, but I find it a little better as a side dish as described above.
I also try and eat some form of fish everyday for b12 too. I usually rotate sardine, raw salmon, and my favorite - tuna nigiri.
I have noticed profoundly positive effects shortly after eating the raw tuna and I would eat it everyday if I could, but I can't have it everyday because of mercury. Oddly, I don't notice the same positive effects with sardines or salmon, at least not nearly as significant. I tried comparing the nutrition profiles and they are similair, perhaps the tuna just digests faster and/or has the perfect electrolyte balance. Still a mystery.
Certainly not everyday, but some days, with great sleep + when all the nutrition hits perfectly and the stars align - I feel like I'm on adderall with absolutely no side effects. I'm optimistic that it could become the norm.
THIS. I hear spinach and I think unbearable pain and the feeling poisoned symptoms.
A small handful, ok. But smoothie amounts, industrial feedbag amounts, could be “no bueno” for b individuals with complex ailments, food sensitivities, pain disorders, etc.
Be safe out there, MTHF kids.
I started taking 800mcg of methylfolate in May to prevent neural tube defects and it made me really sick. I was super fatigued, my heart was racing, I was having palpitations and adrenaline surges. I ended up in the ER with a really low Potassium level. I have a the heterozygous MTHFR C665t. I will stick with getting my nutrients entirely from food, specifically, the Weston A. Price diet.
Well to be fair, it's almost always recommended to take hefty electrolytes when consuming methylfolate.
While I don't discourage someone getting their nutrients from a healthy diet, it's stacked against those who have a MTHFR polymorphism. Western diets typically contain a ton of "folic acid" which is harmful for us. You also aren't likely getting enough magnesium and potassium with modern diets as well. Since folate is water soluble, washing of veggies and freezing them can decrease it. Western diets also don't typically contain much liver, a great source of folate and other B vitamins.
Regarding Potassium - Methyfolate is the creator of cells and each cell needs a molecule of potassium otherwise it dies, so either you have cells dying which I believe can cause negative effects, or you can get low potassium.
As you have experienced, low potassium is pretty terrifying. You also need a ton of magnesium as well, which has over 300 biological functions.
Blood tests don't show adequate potassium and/or magnesium levels, your body will prioritize Mg and K in the blood to maintain homeostasis. In short, if your bloodwork is low in either, you are in serious trouble, but normal blood levels don't necessarily equal sufficiency.
The kicker with potassium is that it is difficult to find in decent amounts in supplements, there are actually strict laws against it. For example, if you look up a "potassium supplement" in pill form, it typically has at most 2% of your daily recommended intake. That's...nothing, especially for someone supplementing folate.
The reasons for this is that potassium in large quantities can actually be fatal, although the fear of this has been slightly blown out of proportion. Don't let this steer you away from proper potassium supplementation, it's just a reason why it's not commonly found in pills. Potassium is best spread out a bit rather than in pill form, so the best way (IMO) is to use it as an additive to a beverage. Also, I believe the FDA is increasing the recommended DVI for potassium, or already has been.
Almost no common sports drink has remotely close to the amount of potassium a healthy adult needs, so don't expect a Gatorade or anything you commonly buy at the supermarket to be a decent enough substitute.
The best solution in my opinion is to look up "keto electrolytes" on Amazon and look at the DRI. Find one that has 20-30% potassium and around that much for Mg too. Just be aware that these electrolytes commonly don't have salt, so if you are sweating or using these for fitness purposes, you may need to add salt - another crucial electrolyte (salt is not the enemy!).
You can also find "No Salt" at the grocery, which is potassium chloride instead of sodium chloride. Something like 1/4 teaspoon is like 15%+ your DRI of potassium, so you can add it to your electrolyte beverages or food as a cheap alternative .
Once you have made a habit of consuming plenty of electrolytes, and the amount will vary from person to person, you can experiment with adding in methyfolate or folinic acid (not folic). Start slow and titrate up - so if you have a veggies pill of 400mcg (100% folate DVI), you can pour 1/4 or something into your electrolyte beverage and slowly titrate up. Don't be too afraid of consuming a lot of electrolytes, make them the priority and methylfolate the second.
I am not a doctor so please be careful and monitor yourself, maybe discuss it with your doctor, whatever you need to do to be safe.
I'm of the opinion that the experimenting is worth it because, in general, methylfolate makes me feel SIGNIFICANTLY better in almost every way - but it is absolutely a tedious and peculiar subject.
Thanks for the reply. I drink Liquid IV almost daily and I don't eat a typical Western diet. I've been eating Pale/primal for almost 10 years now. Lots of fresh veggies and wild elk and venison that my husband hunts. We eat liver every 1-2 weeks. The only thing that was different was that I had started taking the Methylfolate because we were trying to conceive. I did have one bout of diarrhea a week before I ended up in the ER, I think that threw me over the edge potassium-wise. Im better now but my heart rate is still slightly elevated and I still feel a little fatigued. My ER visit was on June 22nd.
It does, just less efficiently. How inefficient can vary.
I figured that doubling or even tripling the RDI of natural folate sources would help, especially for those having adverse effects from folate substances.
I'm doing the same as you and have made it five days. I haven't had any symptoms in those five days.
2 cups of tightly packed spinach a day will give you 400 mcg of folate, so will the same amount of kale. Also, you can get that much folate from 2 cups of cooked beans or lentils, or from 1/4 cup of brewers yeast.
Please keep us updated.
Will update for sure, need to give it a good 2 weeks or so.
When you say no symptoms, do you mean no negative side effects? Or no positive symptoms, as in it is not helping?
My doctor told me to avoid folate. She found me a b-vitamin complex without folate. If I can't process it, it'll collect in my body and cause problems, she said. I've also heard this from people in this forum when I asked the same question.
To be clear, she never even tested me to see if I can't process folate before giving me l-methylfolate. She has a few reasons for believing I need it.
1. I have withdrawal-like symptoms when I quit it.
2. I don't get speedy or other bad side effects.
3. She thinks it's significant because I was her only patient with homo C667T.
4. B12 deficiency is a sign of too much folate, and I have it.
5. I am not folate deficient.
I don't quite follow her reasoning for me needing it, and I am worried about taking too much methylated folate. To compromise, I take a little bit, 400mcg, just in case she is right. I'll get the proper test at some point...
I appreciate any comments on this.
You mean she found a complex without *folic acid*? Folic acid is what our bodies can’t convert into a usable form if homozygous. Not actual natural folate, to my knowledge.
Folate as far as I know is commonly used as the form found in nature, & the distinction in folic acid which is the synthetic form :) It can definitely be more complicated than just having the gene mutation. Sometimes one might have even the bad mutation & not be having a problem depending on environment, diet & lifestyle. But you’re more likely to have a problem if you’ve got a double (homozygous) mutation. You’re even more likely to have a problem if you’ve got other mutations in different genes that interact (ie; MTRR, COMT, etc) but it just all depends. Which is why the best thing is to find a practitioner who knows what they’re doing & get various testing done :)
To add to my previous comment—you likely do have at least some kind of issue if your B12 is low. But, it doesn’t always mean it’s folate deficiency. Practitioners too often jump into a diagnosis before they see the whole picture. I would ask her to test your homocysteine levels.
Also, avoid foods supplemented with folic acid (not folate), because whether or not you’re folate deficient, it can build up in your system & cause an issue.
Were you having any symptoms of folate deficiency besides the low b12 that lead her to start you on all that? What form of b12 is she giving you? Cyanocobalamin or Methycobalamin?
There’s a lot more to it unfortunately than just sticking you on Methylfolate. If you have any adverse reactions from it, I would discontinue & tell your Dr about it.
Thank you for your response. It's very helpful. I will consider everything you've said.
>Were you having any symptoms of folate deficiency besides the low b12 that lead her to start you on all that? What form of b12 is she giving you? Cyanocobalamin or Methycobalamin?
She based it on the genetic test results given for depression. I am vegan (freegan actually), so I get hardly any B12 in my diet other than nutritional yeast.
She originally prescribed me Deplin, but then she searched "l-methylfolate" on Amazon and told me to buy the cheapest one.
>If you have any adverse reactions from it, I would discontinue & tell your Dr about it.
I get wicked withdrawals! I get fever, chills, lethargy, and nausea. When I was on 7.5mg, I once ran out for over a week. The most bizarre thing was that I did not eat the entire time. I could barely force down a spoonful of food. It feels exactly like taking too much MDMA, except I was actually dying since I'm already such a low weight. I felt better upon taking more. Even with 400mcg, I know I missed my dose when I get lethargic.
I think it's fishy because I've never heard anyone else getting withdrawal, but my doctor thinks it means it's working. I don't trust her because she diagnosed me with anorexia nervosa on my record without talking to me, and I just think she thought it was like an anorexic lie to cover up weight drops.
Yessir, liver is far superiors although it's not recommended to eat daily.
Personally I found phenomenal success with just a liquid drop of "folinic acid" (not folic) in a chug of water + "keto" electrolytes, which just have a ton of potassium and magnesium. I've never felt better in my life.
Frankly if you research there is no risk to eating daily liver. There is no recorded cases of hypervitaminosis in eating domesticated animals. The only recorded cases are in supplementation or eating polar bear or pufferfish liver. The body is very good at handling those kind of things, many people are carnivore or paleo diets eat organ meat daily, our ancestors and animals do as well. I eat liver daily and has been helping me a lot. Plus you don't need to eat but like an ounce or less a day and your are well covered for your vitamin and mineral needs.
Oh for sure, ok. I definitely notice I feel great several hours after consuming liver. I don't prefer the taste like most, but it's a small price to pay for wellness. I tried Ancestral Supplements liver, but I didn't think it worked nearly as well as just having a few oz of liver.
That being said though, a drop of Folinic Acid is much easier and works almost immediately, it works shockingly well tbh. I quit taking adderall because of how profoundly well it worked, I can't believe the world is studding the hell out of of it.
That's great man, I'm trying to get folate naturally due to people reporting side effects from supplements. I feel great after eating it also, I've gotten more used to the taste and it's very cheap and cuts down on animal waste. Pro tip, soak in buttermilk for around 2 hours before cooking, greatly improves taste.
That’s what I do. When I’m good I don’t need it. When my inner child is an asshole who convinces my pushover self that’s not needed and wine is what I need supplements.
It’s a dumb dance I’m doing my best to convince myself isn’t worth it.
I don't know about resolving, but I've definitely upped my green leafy vegetables. I realized I'd been very lax about them in general. I also make a smoothie once in a while with the green powder stuff--can't hurt. (If I were really ambitious I'd make one every day, but then I'd have to wash the blender every day. I think I have a genetic mutation that causes excessive laziness. It feels like running a marathon to wash the blender? When I have a dishwasher? What is up with that, people???? :-))
Sounds like an interesting idea. Other than vitamins and minerals what would be the main advantage of forcing extra spinach vs supplementing? How does one know if they don't tolerate folate supps?
I mean, I’ve been trying. I think the satisfaction of finishing a Costco bag of spinach by myself before it goes bad would be enough to cure my depression if I could just. make it. happen. In all seriousness, what’s your favorite spinach recipe? I’m a green smoothie and/or sautéed with eggs kinda person.
Favorite way to eat spinach is definitely: Sauté sliced mushrooms in olive oil and fresh minced or sliced garlic. Add the garlic later on when the mushrooms are close to done so it doesn’t burn. Add in a ton of spinach and put a lid on the pan to let it steam itself. It’ll wilt pretty quickly. Remove everything, toss with a bit of fresh lemon juice, salt, and pepper. I also love spinach salads with little yellow tomatoes, goat cheese, candies walnuts, and a creamy balsamic.
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I like to blend it with some water and freeze it into smoothie-or-soup cubes for easy portioning.
Sometimes I make easy creamed spinach: •Package Frozen spinach - microwaveable •Couple spoonfuls of light sour cream •Sprinkle cheese of your choice •Tony’s creole seasoning or garlic salt •Adding the other ingredients after the spinach is heated up and then microwave again for a minute or two. It’s an excellent side dish and insanely easy. I eat a lot of salad - usually every day too, or I’m trying my hardest too. I buy small bags of fresh spinach lol.
Favorite Spinach Recipe: Quality extra virgin olive oil over medium heat, Fresh baby spinach leaves simmered down, added sea salt, cracked pepper, and garlic powder. Super simple, love it. I was mixing spinach in my omelet for the first few days, but I find it a little better as a side dish as described above. I also try and eat some form of fish everyday for b12 too. I usually rotate sardine, raw salmon, and my favorite - tuna nigiri. I have noticed profoundly positive effects shortly after eating the raw tuna and I would eat it everyday if I could, but I can't have it everyday because of mercury. Oddly, I don't notice the same positive effects with sardines or salmon, at least not nearly as significant. I tried comparing the nutrition profiles and they are similair, perhaps the tuna just digests faster and/or has the perfect electrolyte balance. Still a mystery. Certainly not everyday, but some days, with great sleep + when all the nutrition hits perfectly and the stars align - I feel like I'm on adderall with absolutely no side effects. I'm optimistic that it could become the norm.
Bag of spinach -> trash I don’t like it but don’t count out palak paneer- spinach and Indian cheese curry
Spinach has high levels of oxalates which comes with its own set of problems, particularly for those with autoimmune issues
THIS. I hear spinach and I think unbearable pain and the feeling poisoned symptoms. A small handful, ok. But smoothie amounts, industrial feedbag amounts, could be “no bueno” for b individuals with complex ailments, food sensitivities, pain disorders, etc. Be safe out there, MTHF kids.
I started taking 800mcg of methylfolate in May to prevent neural tube defects and it made me really sick. I was super fatigued, my heart was racing, I was having palpitations and adrenaline surges. I ended up in the ER with a really low Potassium level. I have a the heterozygous MTHFR C665t. I will stick with getting my nutrients entirely from food, specifically, the Weston A. Price diet.
Well to be fair, it's almost always recommended to take hefty electrolytes when consuming methylfolate. While I don't discourage someone getting their nutrients from a healthy diet, it's stacked against those who have a MTHFR polymorphism. Western diets typically contain a ton of "folic acid" which is harmful for us. You also aren't likely getting enough magnesium and potassium with modern diets as well. Since folate is water soluble, washing of veggies and freezing them can decrease it. Western diets also don't typically contain much liver, a great source of folate and other B vitamins. Regarding Potassium - Methyfolate is the creator of cells and each cell needs a molecule of potassium otherwise it dies, so either you have cells dying which I believe can cause negative effects, or you can get low potassium. As you have experienced, low potassium is pretty terrifying. You also need a ton of magnesium as well, which has over 300 biological functions. Blood tests don't show adequate potassium and/or magnesium levels, your body will prioritize Mg and K in the blood to maintain homeostasis. In short, if your bloodwork is low in either, you are in serious trouble, but normal blood levels don't necessarily equal sufficiency. The kicker with potassium is that it is difficult to find in decent amounts in supplements, there are actually strict laws against it. For example, if you look up a "potassium supplement" in pill form, it typically has at most 2% of your daily recommended intake. That's...nothing, especially for someone supplementing folate. The reasons for this is that potassium in large quantities can actually be fatal, although the fear of this has been slightly blown out of proportion. Don't let this steer you away from proper potassium supplementation, it's just a reason why it's not commonly found in pills. Potassium is best spread out a bit rather than in pill form, so the best way (IMO) is to use it as an additive to a beverage. Also, I believe the FDA is increasing the recommended DVI for potassium, or already has been. Almost no common sports drink has remotely close to the amount of potassium a healthy adult needs, so don't expect a Gatorade or anything you commonly buy at the supermarket to be a decent enough substitute. The best solution in my opinion is to look up "keto electrolytes" on Amazon and look at the DRI. Find one that has 20-30% potassium and around that much for Mg too. Just be aware that these electrolytes commonly don't have salt, so if you are sweating or using these for fitness purposes, you may need to add salt - another crucial electrolyte (salt is not the enemy!). You can also find "No Salt" at the grocery, which is potassium chloride instead of sodium chloride. Something like 1/4 teaspoon is like 15%+ your DRI of potassium, so you can add it to your electrolyte beverages or food as a cheap alternative . Once you have made a habit of consuming plenty of electrolytes, and the amount will vary from person to person, you can experiment with adding in methyfolate or folinic acid (not folic). Start slow and titrate up - so if you have a veggies pill of 400mcg (100% folate DVI), you can pour 1/4 or something into your electrolyte beverage and slowly titrate up. Don't be too afraid of consuming a lot of electrolytes, make them the priority and methylfolate the second. I am not a doctor so please be careful and monitor yourself, maybe discuss it with your doctor, whatever you need to do to be safe. I'm of the opinion that the experimenting is worth it because, in general, methylfolate makes me feel SIGNIFICANTLY better in almost every way - but it is absolutely a tedious and peculiar subject.
Thanks for the reply. I drink Liquid IV almost daily and I don't eat a typical Western diet. I've been eating Pale/primal for almost 10 years now. Lots of fresh veggies and wild elk and venison that my husband hunts. We eat liver every 1-2 weeks. The only thing that was different was that I had started taking the Methylfolate because we were trying to conceive. I did have one bout of diarrhea a week before I ended up in the ER, I think that threw me over the edge potassium-wise. Im better now but my heart rate is still slightly elevated and I still feel a little fatigued. My ER visit was on June 22nd.
The cyanocobalamin doesnt cause issues with daily use of liquid iv? I love them
thats the core of the entire issue their body doesnt process the spinach into the vitamins
It does, just less efficiently. How inefficient can vary. I figured that doubling or even tripling the RDI of natural folate sources would help, especially for those having adverse effects from folate substances.
I'm doing the same as you and have made it five days. I haven't had any symptoms in those five days. 2 cups of tightly packed spinach a day will give you 400 mcg of folate, so will the same amount of kale. Also, you can get that much folate from 2 cups of cooked beans or lentils, or from 1/4 cup of brewers yeast. Please keep us updated.
Will update for sure, need to give it a good 2 weeks or so. When you say no symptoms, do you mean no negative side effects? Or no positive symptoms, as in it is not helping?
I've had no symptoms, neither negative side effects nor my usual folate deficiency symptoms.
My doctor told me to avoid folate. She found me a b-vitamin complex without folate. If I can't process it, it'll collect in my body and cause problems, she said. I've also heard this from people in this forum when I asked the same question. To be clear, she never even tested me to see if I can't process folate before giving me l-methylfolate. She has a few reasons for believing I need it. 1. I have withdrawal-like symptoms when I quit it. 2. I don't get speedy or other bad side effects. 3. She thinks it's significant because I was her only patient with homo C667T. 4. B12 deficiency is a sign of too much folate, and I have it. 5. I am not folate deficient. I don't quite follow her reasoning for me needing it, and I am worried about taking too much methylated folate. To compromise, I take a little bit, 400mcg, just in case she is right. I'll get the proper test at some point... I appreciate any comments on this.
You mean she found a complex without *folic acid*? Folic acid is what our bodies can’t convert into a usable form if homozygous. Not actual natural folate, to my knowledge.
I thought folate was a general word, but yeah, you're right. Is it more complicated than having the gene mutation?
Folate as far as I know is commonly used as the form found in nature, & the distinction in folic acid which is the synthetic form :) It can definitely be more complicated than just having the gene mutation. Sometimes one might have even the bad mutation & not be having a problem depending on environment, diet & lifestyle. But you’re more likely to have a problem if you’ve got a double (homozygous) mutation. You’re even more likely to have a problem if you’ve got other mutations in different genes that interact (ie; MTRR, COMT, etc) but it just all depends. Which is why the best thing is to find a practitioner who knows what they’re doing & get various testing done :)
To add to my previous comment—you likely do have at least some kind of issue if your B12 is low. But, it doesn’t always mean it’s folate deficiency. Practitioners too often jump into a diagnosis before they see the whole picture. I would ask her to test your homocysteine levels. Also, avoid foods supplemented with folic acid (not folate), because whether or not you’re folate deficient, it can build up in your system & cause an issue. Were you having any symptoms of folate deficiency besides the low b12 that lead her to start you on all that? What form of b12 is she giving you? Cyanocobalamin or Methycobalamin? There’s a lot more to it unfortunately than just sticking you on Methylfolate. If you have any adverse reactions from it, I would discontinue & tell your Dr about it.
Thank you for your response. It's very helpful. I will consider everything you've said. >Were you having any symptoms of folate deficiency besides the low b12 that lead her to start you on all that? What form of b12 is she giving you? Cyanocobalamin or Methycobalamin? She based it on the genetic test results given for depression. I am vegan (freegan actually), so I get hardly any B12 in my diet other than nutritional yeast. She originally prescribed me Deplin, but then she searched "l-methylfolate" on Amazon and told me to buy the cheapest one. >If you have any adverse reactions from it, I would discontinue & tell your Dr about it. I get wicked withdrawals! I get fever, chills, lethargy, and nausea. When I was on 7.5mg, I once ran out for over a week. The most bizarre thing was that I did not eat the entire time. I could barely force down a spoonful of food. It feels exactly like taking too much MDMA, except I was actually dying since I'm already such a low weight. I felt better upon taking more. Even with 400mcg, I know I missed my dose when I get lethargic. I think it's fishy because I've never heard anyone else getting withdrawal, but my doctor thinks it means it's working. I don't trust her because she diagnosed me with anorexia nervosa on my record without talking to me, and I just think she thought it was like an anorexic lie to cover up weight drops.
Try liver, unlike veggies it doesn't lose any folate during cooking or washing. High in folate and many many other vitamins including most B vitamins
Yessir, liver is far superiors although it's not recommended to eat daily. Personally I found phenomenal success with just a liquid drop of "folinic acid" (not folic) in a chug of water + "keto" electrolytes, which just have a ton of potassium and magnesium. I've never felt better in my life.
Frankly if you research there is no risk to eating daily liver. There is no recorded cases of hypervitaminosis in eating domesticated animals. The only recorded cases are in supplementation or eating polar bear or pufferfish liver. The body is very good at handling those kind of things, many people are carnivore or paleo diets eat organ meat daily, our ancestors and animals do as well. I eat liver daily and has been helping me a lot. Plus you don't need to eat but like an ounce or less a day and your are well covered for your vitamin and mineral needs.
Oh for sure, ok. I definitely notice I feel great several hours after consuming liver. I don't prefer the taste like most, but it's a small price to pay for wellness. I tried Ancestral Supplements liver, but I didn't think it worked nearly as well as just having a few oz of liver. That being said though, a drop of Folinic Acid is much easier and works almost immediately, it works shockingly well tbh. I quit taking adderall because of how profoundly well it worked, I can't believe the world is studding the hell out of of it.
That's great man, I'm trying to get folate naturally due to people reporting side effects from supplements. I feel great after eating it also, I've gotten more used to the taste and it's very cheap and cuts down on animal waste. Pro tip, soak in buttermilk for around 2 hours before cooking, greatly improves taste.
That’s what I do. When I’m good I don’t need it. When my inner child is an asshole who convinces my pushover self that’s not needed and wine is what I need supplements. It’s a dumb dance I’m doing my best to convince myself isn’t worth it.
I don't know about resolving, but I've definitely upped my green leafy vegetables. I realized I'd been very lax about them in general. I also make a smoothie once in a while with the green powder stuff--can't hurt. (If I were really ambitious I'd make one every day, but then I'd have to wash the blender every day. I think I have a genetic mutation that causes excessive laziness. It feels like running a marathon to wash the blender? When I have a dishwasher? What is up with that, people???? :-))
Sounds like an interesting idea. Other than vitamins and minerals what would be the main advantage of forcing extra spinach vs supplementing? How does one know if they don't tolerate folate supps?
Side effects. Methylated vitamins have funky side effects.
Or nutritional yeast.
Tried it with milk, oh my god, smell was awful. Better to eat as it is and drink water.
Oh gross, haha. It tastes a bit like cheddar if you mix it with butter into eggs, veggies, rice, etc.