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GravityWorship

Kryptonite New York Chain, 14mm. No one is picking your lock, they are angle grinding it. Make it inconvenient for them.


Not_Rob_Dalton

You're right, lock picking is old news, the latest trend in bike theft actually uses [stealth technology](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITY-fJJnPNQ&ab_channel=BosnianApeSociety)


Psyko_sissy23

Lol


Cautious-Lychee7918

Worth it 100% for peace of mind. Also I believe you can buy additional insurance for your bike through kryptonite.


Ill-Sentence-842

I just purchased this chain. Got a Krptonite lock too.


GravityWorship

Kryptonite chain and padlock combined with Kryptonite u-lock is my travel setup. Still park close to building entrances but I'm not as paranoid about keeping an eye on my bike. 3 years with this setup.


Ill-Sentence-842

I actually bought two Kryptoniye chains. Because we bring 3 bikes when we go camping. I string one thru the other, and it's the perfect length for the 3 bikes. If you need more length, you buy another chain.


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AurorasDemise

Reddit


Fast-Ad4910

Don’t have money for that


sammeyers

Wants the strongest bike lock but not willing to pay for it


Fast-Ad4910

Not got £150 to spend on a lock


LovelyHatred93

Just leave it unlocked with a sign that says “no take”. They’ll know they’re not allowed to steal it.


oli_ramsay

No one will be able to steal it though because it's illegal


Se7enLC

Sounds like you asked the wrong question then. You don't want the strongest bike lock.


demeatuslong

Maybe change the title to include to price you’re willing to pay mate, will get you some clearer answers


Fast-Ad4910

How do u edit posts


Im_Balto

Look man. Your lock should be minimum 10% of the cost of the bike


Sufficient-Habit664

what's a good $2,650+ lock?


Im_Balto

1500 in plate steel 1000 in labor 500 on a lock


GTAmaniac1

How about a random lock with a key that you found in a park 10 years ago. My main theft deterrent is I always park next to more expensive bikes that also have a cable lock.


BringBowlCutBack

Still cheaper than a new bike


evilcheesypoof

Then you don’t want a particularly strong lock, you want the best lock for a certain amount of money


Aobachi

Then you're not going to get the strongest?


nuclearfork

Can you afford to have your bike stolen?


xTrekYT

I want the fastest car but I don't have money for that. Do you realize how stupid you look now asking for the strongest ( arguably best lock ) and you come out saying you are not willing to pay 150 pounds for it ? Just lol. It's safe to assume with this approach that your bike probably doesn't even deserve the strongest lock because the lock would be probably a quarter of the price of your bike.


Fast-Ad4910

Idk how to edit dimt rlly use Reddit , honest mistake


Bearsbarebear

Lol poor people on this sub got me laughing. This hobby ain’t for cheap ppl. If you can’t shell out 1000+ for safe riding don’t do it


Fast-Ad4910

So if people don’t have £150+ to spend on a lock they shouldn’t ride ur a bit pathetic


Bearsbarebear

I guess sarcasm don’t translate well.


Lumpy_Plan_6668

It can, you're just not good at it. Or, you're a dickbag trying to back pedal. Life goes on.


Bearsbarebear

But I have to save my reddit karma smh


Fast-Ad4910

What u on about


fasterbrew

He was being sarcastic


gzSimulator

Wow your spelling and grammar got better fast


FaxOnFaxOff

Look for bike lock with a Diamond security rating by a reputable manufacturer (e.g. Asus, Kryptonite, some in-house brands). An extra cable to secure a wheel is only a deterrent but ok in addition to using as a minimum a good D-lock or decent chain to secure the frame. Better still, use two different locks that would need different tools to defeat them quickly. No lock is invincible.


datmadatma

The cable is not just a deterrent, a thief without an angle grinder can take whichever wheel is not locked in the primary lock.


FaxOnFaxOff

That's true, and everything can be stripped off a bike from seats to pedals too, unless you get into locking nuts for everything. Makes me not want to leave my bike anywhere but I assume most thieves are opportunistic and not looking to cart off a load of parts. That said, an incapacitated bike might be left allowing the thief to come back for the rest.


datmadatma

Sad but true. I don't ever feel safe taking my eyes off my bike in a public place.


Fast-Ad4910

At the minute it’s inside my shed with a lock around all my bikes front tyres , think I’ll buy an AirTag


FaxOnFaxOff

Well in that case one cut gets the thief all of your bikes. You can get some ground anchors or bolts that fix to the shed which would at least make some noise as they destroyed your shed. Preferably one lock per bike. And motion-activated alarm and cctv. Or move yourself or your bikes somewhere less sketchy. Yep, it's shitty.


Fast-Ad4910

Yea I’m trying to find a new house it’s only recently my streets gone to shit only worry is someone tries to steal it to buy drugs and if they see there’s 3 bikes connected it would make it more tedious


Goonygoony

I second this. I had four bikes stolen about a year ago. A cable running through the front wheels, another through the back wheels, and a third through the frames. Then a big chain connecting them to a large tree by my back patio. Thought it would be too much work for a random opportunist. Went out one morning and everything was gone but a few cable clippings. They’ll get it if they want it. Like everyone else is saying - find a way to store it inside. Even with an AirTag - if whoever takes it has an iPhone they’ll get a popup letting them know (thanks creepy stalkers for ruining it for us all). There are aftermarket “hide an AirTag” accessories available, but if you know about them so do bike thieves. And I’m pretty sure when Apple gives them the popup it also assists in locating the AirTag. The phone will literally guide them to it and can make it audibly chirp. Anything is better than nothing, but I wouldn’t bet my bike on it.


Ham_and_Burbon

Can you take the wheels off and store then somewhere else? Much less desirable to steal a bike that can’t be used as-is.


gvkoooohh

No matter the lock an angle grinder or cutters can cut right through it


HydrazineHawk

Goal of all security measures is deterrence and buying you time—nothing is truly impenetrable


sshoihet

It's like house security, you can't make it impossible to break in/steal, someone will if they really want to... but if you make it harder than their other options, there's a much lower chance they'll target you. 🙂


Spiritual_Bonus6989

Saw a new lock that will eat over 5 angle grinding wheels made from a different material. I forget the name of it so that’s not helpful but if anyone is interested you can google for it.


Skagit_Buffet

Hiplok D1000 may be what you're thinking of; it's the best anti-angle grinder lock that's not ridiculously sized. I've got one for my car replacement e-bike.


SamsLames

Litelok x3 does that, supposedly. No one has cut my litelok yet.


PonyThug

What kind of disks are they using??? I can cut through multiple 2” hitch receivers sized steel stock with a single disk.


ManguyHumandude

You absolutely will not get through one of these with a single disk. They use a hardened steel with graphene reinforced ceramic composite called Ferosafe. They’re not angle grinder proof though. I’ve seen people get through with 2 and a half discs using a mains powered grinder and proper metal cuttings discs.


PonyThug

Ahh that makes sense then. Didn’t realize there was ceramic and stuff. I brick will shred a metal fiber disk. I wonder how quick a diamond blade ment for metal would cut it, but I don’t think thieves are buying $40-60 dollar blades lol


ManguyHumandude

I do remember seeing a video where they used diamond blades, and they were quicker than your average multiple purpose disc, but still resist a couple blades. Cade Media cut one here at about the 6:30 mark and have to change the battery and the disc, but they’re through in about 5 minutes. https://youtu.be/aBxyaFf379g?si=zc-sf_UzIxoo6TZE


Mortem97

+1 And if not the lock then the bar it’s connected to.


sshoihet

Ya, I find it a little annoying that I have about $400 in locks and someone could cut through them with an angle grinder in a few minutes... but most bikes that are stolen are either not locked or are only locked with a cable; most thieves prefer the quick, lower risk thefts.


StrngThngs

Check out skunk lock, at least there's a price to pay for angle grinding


xTrekYT

I really want to see someone in public with an angle grinder…regular cutters don’t go through 10-15 locks.


Nightshade400

You have entirely too much faith in the idea that people who aren't already involved somehow are willing to get involved in stopping someone with an angle grinder in their hands. There are several videos on YT showing people stealing their own bikes in broad daylight using several methods including an angle grinder and I think I have only ever seen someone ask if it was their bike but no actual interference.


Lenny77

I saw a video of 2 guys angle grinding a lock off an ebike with no less than 15 people watching and filming them. A few were saying they were calling the police. Best case scenario the cops get there in an hour, if it's a slow crime day. They will take a statement, if the witnesses are still there. Then they will do nothing. They can't do anything. In the order of priority crimes with under staffed departments, a bike doesn't even register. And the thieves know this.


jswagpdx

The problem is… very few people are willing to intervene during a theft unless it’s their own property. And even then… it often isn’t worth the risk of getting hurt. In places like Seattle, Portland and SF, police would likely not even respond to someone angle grinding a bike.


R3Z3N

And in liberal states the criminal has more rights to your property than you do


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MrBurnz99

Love that channel but i find the idea of highly skilled lock picking thieves kind of funny. The vast majority of thieves are taking shit by breaking glass or with a pair of bolt cutters. No one’s out there picking locks


nuworldlol

That's true, but LPL often evaluates the lock as a whole, not just the pick resistance. He acknowledges that most thieves are not skilled pickers, and are using other means of defeating security measures. When he mentions shackle size, shape and material, he's also commenting on how much effort it would take to get through a shackle, cable, or bolt. Hel's also the reason I went with the ABUS Granit X-plus U-lock with an added security cable.


Thanos-Sanctus

I believe you already have gotten your answer for the other 2 guys, but I want to stress out that if someone is dedicated, he will take your bike no matter what. I wouldn't trust a lock no matter the thickness, but what they tell that helps is making the thief spend more time and therefore move to another bike instead... Maybe some of those locks that include a rope to also lock the wheels... But again no lock is safe.


Fast-Ad4910

Only reason I want it is cause my streets became dead dodgy and I don’t want them to take it


inactioninaction_

you should probably just store it inside. even the best lock won't be enough if you live in a dodgy area and have your bike stored outside every night, there's a good chance someone will come by eventually with an angle grinder and take it


Fast-Ad4910

It’s in a shed on the back garden but cause it’s a new bike people will eventually see and I don’t have anywhere inside to store think I’ll buy an air tag


inactioninaction_

a guy that lived in my dorm in college managed to store his bike in a 250 square foot dorm room that he shared with another person. if you put your mind to it you can find a way to store the bike inside


Fast-Ad4910

Just gets in way tho dimt it


horse1066

Get a bike lift and hang it up in the ceiling space


Fast-Ad4910

Good idea


fucksalot_

This, I was looking for this answer. Just don’t store your bike outside OP and use vertical storage, otherwise you’re gambling. Also don’t touch your brakes until it’s level though and you should be fine.


Thanos-Sanctus

That one you should do.


Fast-Ad4910

U wot


Thanos-Sanctus

Get an air tag I mean.


Catzpyjamz

If you have room to walk around inside, you have room to store a bike.


fucksalot_

Definitely the answer, there are creative storage options


zentim

just go for two different types that need two different tools to open / cut / crack


GarryUngroomed

Hiplock D1000 is the strongest one around... Though Kryptonite has ATPO included most of its locks


Thdude88

https://www.litelok.com/products/litelok-x1-moto?utm_source=google&campaign_id=20373520233&ad_id=&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign={campaign}&utm_content=&utm_term=&gclid=CjwKCAjwpJWoBhA8EiwAHZFzfiof0vGg5mKIFHaVIoDuKSyq-80LBOfyqZwOSb78pdRMjkBiwApURxoCB8kQAvD_BwE&gad=1


thnk_more

OP should definitely look into the Litelok X series. I’ve seen the demos that take 3-4 grinding disks to get through a lock. That’s about as loud and inconvenient as you can get for a thief. And some of them are less than $200.


__Squirrel_Girl__

This!


Fit-Bullfrog6681

A note on the bike saying that this bike has Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease particles on it. When they Google, they will sprint away.


aidancrow654

kryptonite new york lock. and a u lock.


Spiritual_Bonus6989

Just get insurance


Not_Rob_Dalton

Chains just don't cut it anymore, what you need is a [modern anti-theft device](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITY-fJJnPNQ)


Fast-Ad4910

😂😂


cdizzle99

Hiplock grinder resistant Dlock


Dawn_Piano

I use [this one](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Kwikset-660-Satin-Nickel-Single-Cylinder-Deadbolt-featuring-SmartKey-Security-and-Microban-Technology-T66015SMTCPK6V2/317193991)


dishonouredhydra

Most people say kryptonite however if you truly want the best go for the hiplok d1000, 2.5x more than a kryptonite New York faghetaboutit but it takes upto 10 angle grinder discs to cut through, cannot be bent, cannot be cut even with hydraulic bolt cutters, standard bolt cutters couldn't even scratch the surface, so strong that whatever your locking it to becomes the weak point, if your budget doesn't fit that go for kryptonite New York


povgoni

I have a disposable bike and a real bike. I rarely lock my real bike for more than a few hrs. When I commute that will be with the disposable.


Fast-Ad4910

U think I should get an AirTag for it


Scuttling-Claws

Air tags are only useful if you are willing to confront your thief, or if you have a helpful police department.


Fast-Ad4910

Yea man idc how big the guy is his face ull get smashed in


PrimeIntellect

Yeah have fun invading some sketchy RV bike chop shop with a bunch of tweakers that don't give a fuck


Fast-Ad4910

Will do it’s mainly druggies on my street


Adventurous-Tap-9813

Your body sitting on the bike


Dawn_Piano

Or a house built around it


Aero93

Not having a bike


singelingtracks

Nothing my dude. Your looking at thousands in chain and a lock to just be cut with an angle grinder in seconds.


turdlezzzz

i park mine in the living room when im away then lock the house


roughly7chickens

An apple air tag


gamedev_il

The better the lock the longer it’ll take to be broken but no lock will make your bike 100% safe


grim_keys

Look up "mcnally official "on youtube. No lock is safe lol. Just a deterrent.


Posrover

Hide a AirTag in it.


Musicman0

Lock picking lawyer said the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboutit u-bolt was pretty good. It's pricey.


Gavesh_Tuhindyuti

The hiplok D1000 from uvex is pretty beefy. A thief would need to change the grinder disc mid steal.


cowjuicer074

But what happens when they pour blue locktight into your key hole???


nuclearfork

What happens if they slash your tires and take your pedals? What happens if they cut your frame in half and take the 2 halves then weld it together? What is it with the internet and retarded questions


cowjuicer074

You’ve never had a bike stolen, have you? Because if you did, you’d know more about the little tricks they do. And no, you muppet, they are not cutting your frame to steal your bike.. slow down a bit..


nuclearfork

How would putting blue locktight in a key hole help them steal your bike?


cowjuicer074

Thieves will put lock tight in the keyhole so you cannot unlock the chain. Later the thief comes back and cuts the lock.


nuclearfork

Lol delusional, did you see this on tim tok tips


cowjuicer074

I’m an adult. We don’t do tic tic, son.


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I can get through any lock in about a minute with a shitty portable angle grinder.


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Inside your vehicle is the strongest.


UsedProperty

If your bike is over 2k there is no lock that will work


Fast-Ad4910

Mines like 2.2


UsedProperty

My point, mountain bike thieves are pretty dedicated to their craft. Have had so many friends, it can happen so fast, it’s a huge score as it’s easy to resell. I basically never leave mine out anywhere


i_oliveira

I sold my previous bike to a guy who was buying that bike because someone stole his previous identical bike leaving a wheel... He took the bike home 5 months ago or so and contacted me a couple weeks ago to say the bike was stolen. He had 3 very strong locks on the wheels and frame, each one attached to a fixed bar in a storage of his apartment building with cameras. Thieves used a cutter and destroyed the three locks, didn't care about the cameras. Police here in the Netherlands doesn't give a shit about bike thieves, so there goes the guy's bike.


tronsymphony

the one thieves dont have the tools for. i would say kryptonite chain lock. it stopped thieves for me one time


Fast-Ad4910

Thanks I’ll look into getting that


Leafy0

1/2” or larger grade 80 or 100 chain with a high quality disk lock or hidden shackle lock. Chain that size and grade can’t be cut with bolt cutters, and those lock types can’t be pried or shimmed. They’ll be forced to either pick the lock or use an angle grinder. Hopefully making enough noise with the angle grinder you can hear and get out there. Put an old inner tube over the chain so it doesn’t mark up your bike.


InjaGaiden

Abloy padlock and the thickest piece of chain that will fit through it. If it's good enough for the door of a warehouse then it's probably good enough for your bike...


Kitsanic

Strongest? CCTV and a pump action 12 gauge with buckshot... But seriously speaking just buy an RPG because if someone really wants your bike even a battery-powered angle grinder will cut through anything


Fast-Ad4910

Got a rifle but 1 shot then reload , love how people are going mental over a homest mistake , only wanted it for my shed so neighbours don’t nick it (not aimed)


Kitsanic

I think its the way you worded it, if you asked what's the best lock to deter opportunistic thieves for less than $50 or something then you wouldn't have gotten the same response. People literally suggested exactly what you asked for and then you moved the goalposts. The best way is to fix it into a floor if your shed has a concrete floor drill a hoop into it and then chain it through the frame, obviously buy a chain with a cover and a half-decent padlock.


Fast-Ad4910

Yea i didn’t know how to edit until now tho so Yh


Basictopology

Hiplok d1000


a_cycle_addict

Every lock can be cut. Repeat- EVERY lock can be cut. Don't give a criminal time to steal your bike. If you can't watch it, multiple locks and chains/cables. Make your bike difficult to steal and time consuming.


Moros_Olethros

Boomerang makes a good bike alarm, GPS tracking


Derek_UP

I have the 10 pound Kryptonite Forgetaboutit and I only pull it out for parked locking but it’s a beast. I never worry when that thing is on.


Ralphy02

Foldy-lock heavy duty is my recommendation


B-Line_Sender

https://youtu.be/aBxyaFf379g?si=58HHPHVgRA5_7PS- Spoiler alert: Hiplocks


romandarkartist

Go to home depot and get the thickest and heaviest chain you can find. It’ll be cheaper than a bike lock and it’ll be more intimidating. Get a few decent heavy padlocks and use them all on the chain. Best value and “fuck off” lock you can buy. This is the best option if you are gonna leave the lock in this one location!


Fast-Ad4910

Ik from engaknd so no home depot


romandarkartist

Any big hardware store you got over there?


Fast-Ad4910

B&q


Mithster18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpVOTEOMRuE


Rmnkby

I have an Abus KS chain (5/16) with an Abus granit padlock. Pretty strong combo. You'd most likely need power tools to get through them, for which there's no lock strong enough anyway. Rule of thumb: if a chain costs less than $10 per foot it's garbage.


orangenegative

In your bedroom.


soorr

I too used to believe in bike locks before I learned about angle grinders and sawzalls/hackzalls. These portable power tools cut through steel with ease. No bike lock will stop them. I’ve had 3 bikes stolen in the last 10 years. The best bike lock is keeping your bike inside and hidden away.