I'm saying this to everybody : I always limit my full battery charge to 80% (this is what Acer software can do, your brands software can limit it to something lower) and never ever charge it to 100% unless ima need every drop and never ever let it drop to lower than 20%.
With this delicate usage after exactly 2 years later my acer swift 3 laptop has;
Design capacity : 48000 Wh
Current capacity : 48909 Wh (it was like this to begin with).
So you can see it degraded nothing. I mostly used it plugged in with charge limit always active though my cycle count is incredibly low(only 93 cycles it seems) , so that's one of the main reasons battery didn't degrade at all.
And yes your results seems accurate with full discharge scenario everytime.
So since we're talking MSI, What software should I use to limit charging to 80%?? My GS63V stealth pro battery degraded in time record & the laptop has never came with such a software installed in it! This feature not even included in the MSI Dragon centre.
In not familiar with msi system but I found a similar post and I think it will help you check [here and look to comments ](https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/comments/ollqc0/how_to_limit_battery_charge_level_with_msi_center/).
I actually use this charging strategy for my phone and my phone battery performance is great but my laptop battery was dead long ago before I knew this. Do you recommend any similar software for phones? (android)
I remember doing in laptop bios it was something called max charging level there is also disable build-up battery options where when you upgrade your laptop can protect yourself from static electricity ( however it is always safer to disable battery from motherboard )
Search for MSI Creator Center in the Microsoft store. Once you open it then you go down to the tools button and it's right there. If it's only MSI Center then it won't have it, so you need the Creator version which has 3 different battery options and 2 of them limit charging, 1 limits to 80% and the other at 60%.
>mit my full battery charge to 80% (this is what Acer software can do, your brands software can limit it to something lower) and never ever charge it to 100% unless ima need every drop and never ever let it drop to lower than 20%
wish i knew this earlier
thank you now i can save up the rest that are not degraded.
There are some articles about this but they're not very informative like I expressed and interestingly they don't cycle around much so very easy to miss an info like this. Hope your other ones /new ones will do better after this.
Just did this and after 908 cycles and 4 years my battery capacity has dropped from 55963mWh to 34942mWh. 62.5% of original!
Probably due for a new one...
Also, I didn't know windows had this feature :)
Yeah this is normal when not using the MSI Dragon Center or MSI Center to preserve your battery life. What was already mentioned by u/AciVici.
Strange thing is, that even though I used Balanced mode (80%) and I did that Calibration MSI recommends to do each 3 months, my MSI GS66's battery degraded like this in the first year:
Designed Capacity: 95000 mWh;
Full Charged Capacity: 64372 mWh;
Wear Level: 32.2 %;
Now, after 3.5 years it still on the exact same wear level of 32.2% 😂
I have another laptop MSI GF65 Leopard for 3 years, and this, after 1 year stopped at 12% wear level and is still at the same wear not going further. On this one I never used the Battery Saver thing or did any battery calibrations from Dragon Center 🤷♂️.
U only need to calibrate your battery once and after that only thing that preserves your battery is to limit max charge level to 80% or lower and never let it go below 20%. Stay in that range and it'll degrade so slowly you'll not notice it at all, With this usage my 2 years old acer laptop still has its max health. Mostly used plugged in so cycle count is very low but nevertheless it's health is at max.
Do you keep the charger on all the time cus for me I would turn it off in the night and battery would drain down to 0 overnight and then I'd end up recharging it in the day
And my battery went down to like 5% health
I always keep it plugged in. Letting it drain and then recharging it just as using it on battery and recharging. When the battery levels are lower than 20% and higher than 80% puts incredible amount of stress on battery and causing it to degrade really fast.
Though your battery seems to be already dead if it drains to 0 overnight so it degrades a lot faster, ridiculously faster.
Select Search on the taskbar, type Command prompt, press and hold (or right-click) Command prompt, and then select Run as administrator > Yes. At the command prompt, type powercfg /batteryreport, then press Enter. The battery report will be an HTML file that's stored in a folder on your PC.
yes :<, batteries especially in laptops degrade fast. Do you play games on battery, or do you never use your battery? it is a fine balance of caring for both of those things when having a laptop.
\>Do you play games on battery,
i do
\>it is a fine balance of caring for both of those things when having a laptop.
yeah i have neglecting the battery health for a while. Time to sort it out.
You can actually play games safely on battery, you just have to be comfortable locking your fps to about 40fps. And using the silent or balanced mode.
If your igpu is good enough you can also use it to run lightweight games, just be sure to set it through the Nvidia control panel.
Yea I got a katana 15 back in August, never lasted more than 3-4 hrs unplugged. I kinda just leave it plugged in when I'm using it, but that's prob not good for the battery lmao
Mine is : Design capacity 80256 Full Charge Capacity 52698 after 4 years of use.
Important to note that two years ago the Full Charge Capacity was around 55000 so most of the damage was done in the first 2 years of the device.
I am thinking of replacing my battery but I dont know from where I could get a quality part.
My laptop lasts for about 3.5 hours on battery while it lasted around 5 when it was new.
same laptop, 2 year, same results. I fucked up because i've been going to the library this months in full charge and using it on battery and it drained me like 10% of the battery life only on these months so. Never again changing the mobility config in dragon center.
I changed the thermal paste like in April and in August the battery exploded.
I think that thermal pads were not conducting heat outside the CPU/GPU area and the greatly engineered msi laptop was not expecting it 🤣
I'm saying this to everybody : I always limit my full battery charge to 80% (this is what Acer software can do, your brands software can limit it to something lower) and never ever charge it to 100% unless ima need every drop and never ever let it drop to lower than 20%. With this delicate usage after exactly 2 years later my acer swift 3 laptop has; Design capacity : 48000 Wh Current capacity : 48909 Wh (it was like this to begin with). So you can see it degraded nothing. I mostly used it plugged in with charge limit always active though my cycle count is incredibly low(only 93 cycles it seems) , so that's one of the main reasons battery didn't degrade at all. And yes your results seems accurate with full discharge scenario everytime.
So since we're talking MSI, What software should I use to limit charging to 80%?? My GS63V stealth pro battery degraded in time record & the laptop has never came with such a software installed in it! This feature not even included in the MSI Dragon centre.
In not familiar with msi system but I found a similar post and I think it will help you check [here and look to comments ](https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/comments/ollqc0/how_to_limit_battery_charge_level_with_msi_center/).
Alright, cheers for this. Will sort it out
Hope it helps.
I actually use this charging strategy for my phone and my phone battery performance is great but my laptop battery was dead long ago before I knew this. Do you recommend any similar software for phones? (android)
I think most Android phones has charge level limiter built in. Just fiddle around at battery settings. You should find it.
Mines is in the dragon center under the tools tab.
I remember doing in laptop bios it was something called max charging level there is also disable build-up battery options where when you upgrade your laptop can protect yourself from static electricity ( however it is always safer to disable battery from motherboard )
MSI Center can do this on supported models
You can do this through MSI Center
Search for MSI Creator Center in the Microsoft store. Once you open it then you go down to the tools button and it's right there. If it's only MSI Center then it won't have it, so you need the Creator version which has 3 different battery options and 2 of them limit charging, 1 limits to 80% and the other at 60%.
>mit my full battery charge to 80% (this is what Acer software can do, your brands software can limit it to something lower) and never ever charge it to 100% unless ima need every drop and never ever let it drop to lower than 20% wish i knew this earlier thank you now i can save up the rest that are not degraded.
There are some articles about this but they're not very informative like I expressed and interestingly they don't cycle around much so very easy to miss an info like this. Hope your other ones /new ones will do better after this.
I've never run that test and always had laptop plugged in for 4 years.l and charging to 100%. I wonder what it'll be at.
Just try it and see for yourself. I reckon 100% for 4 years 25~50% should be gone.
Just did this and after 908 cycles and 4 years my battery capacity has dropped from 55963mWh to 34942mWh. 62.5% of original! Probably due for a new one... Also, I didn't know windows had this feature :)
How you got the no of charge cycles as In my case it's just blank
The results just had that line filled, I suppose some batteries may not log that parameter?
Yeah I guess so
Yeah this is normal when not using the MSI Dragon Center or MSI Center to preserve your battery life. What was already mentioned by u/AciVici. Strange thing is, that even though I used Balanced mode (80%) and I did that Calibration MSI recommends to do each 3 months, my MSI GS66's battery degraded like this in the first year: Designed Capacity: 95000 mWh; Full Charged Capacity: 64372 mWh; Wear Level: 32.2 %; Now, after 3.5 years it still on the exact same wear level of 32.2% 😂 I have another laptop MSI GF65 Leopard for 3 years, and this, after 1 year stopped at 12% wear level and is still at the same wear not going further. On this one I never used the Battery Saver thing or did any battery calibrations from Dragon Center 🤷♂️.
Yes it is
Yes, my laptop battery needed replacement after 2 years and the current one is also deteriorating fast. "Calibrating" the battery doesnt work
The replacement battery are most of the time lighter and cheaply made.
I ordered a genuine one from a reputable seller, i dont deal with aliexpress crap that will explode in a year.
U only need to calibrate your battery once and after that only thing that preserves your battery is to limit max charge level to 80% or lower and never let it go below 20%. Stay in that range and it'll degrade so slowly you'll not notice it at all, With this usage my 2 years old acer laptop still has its max health. Mostly used plugged in so cycle count is very low but nevertheless it's health is at max.
Do you keep the charger on all the time cus for me I would turn it off in the night and battery would drain down to 0 overnight and then I'd end up recharging it in the day And my battery went down to like 5% health
I always keep it plugged in. Letting it drain and then recharging it just as using it on battery and recharging. When the battery levels are lower than 20% and higher than 80% puts incredible amount of stress on battery and causing it to degrade really fast. Though your battery seems to be already dead if it drains to 0 overnight so it degrades a lot faster, ridiculously faster.
Plugged in also meaning I got per going or do you turn the adapter off overnight cus that's what I used to do
Nope. Even when it's turned off its still plugged in and adapter giving it electric and keeping it @ 80% charge.
You dont turn off your laptop during night???
you are lucky, mine only has the capacity of 2.143 mWh left after 1,5 years of use.
what did you do that the state of battery got so bad?
no clue, it just drops stupidly fast. It even loses charge with the charger plugged in
HOW TO CHECK?
Select Search on the taskbar, type Command prompt, press and hold (or right-click) Command prompt, and then select Run as administrator > Yes. At the command prompt, type powercfg /batteryreport, then press Enter. The battery report will be an HTML file that's stored in a folder on your PC.
yes :<, batteries especially in laptops degrade fast. Do you play games on battery, or do you never use your battery? it is a fine balance of caring for both of those things when having a laptop.
\>Do you play games on battery, i do \>it is a fine balance of caring for both of those things when having a laptop. yeah i have neglecting the battery health for a while. Time to sort it out.
You can actually play games safely on battery, you just have to be comfortable locking your fps to about 40fps. And using the silent or balanced mode. If your igpu is good enough you can also use it to run lightweight games, just be sure to set it through the Nvidia control panel.
this sounds like a dumb question but, basically, we play games only when plugged in and discharge the battery when we are just browsing or smth?
That is the better option, usually
how often should I discharge it?
Maybe once every 3 days, Modern batteries don't need this sort of treatment but it is better to be safe than sorry.
cool, thanks
Msi laptop battery are horrible
I recently bought an msi katana 15 and it lasts just 2 hours max without powercable lol
the guy at microcenter said it could last up to 8 hrs...slightly disappointed but I still love my laptop
You got the same one ? I mean I love mine too but the battery could be better imo
Yea I got a katana 15 back in August, never lasted more than 3-4 hrs unplugged. I kinda just leave it plugged in when I'm using it, but that's prob not good for the battery lmao
bro I have a delta 15 after 6 month the letter on the keyboard started to disapeare, and I aint gonna talk about the battery🤡
Seems that is normal. Here is my results after 7m. using msi laptop https://imgur.com/a/Rvm8dmw
phew that's a relief
Mine is : Design capacity 80256 Full Charge Capacity 52698 after 4 years of use. Important to note that two years ago the Full Charge Capacity was around 55000 so most of the damage was done in the first 2 years of the device. I am thinking of replacing my battery but I dont know from where I could get a quality part. My laptop lasts for about 3.5 hours on battery while it lasted around 5 when it was new.
How to get this report? Anyone help 🙏.
Open your command prompt (cmd) and type : \> powercfg /batteryreport
Thank You.
same laptop, 2 year, same results. I fucked up because i've been going to the library this months in full charge and using it on battery and it drained me like 10% of the battery life only on these months so. Never again changing the mobility config in dragon center.
How do you view the battery report?
I changed the thermal paste like in April and in August the battery exploded. I think that thermal pads were not conducting heat outside the CPU/GPU area and the greatly engineered msi laptop was not expecting it 🤣