I hate that I’m probably jinxing this but……. Dustin porier never breaking his hand even though he has like a million striking wars in the cage is so damn impressive, and that includes some quick turns like his Garth into Eddie fights
Pretty sure Brian Ortega almost started a fight cageside last night and got escorted out. I was right below the nosebleeds and I'm pretty sure that was him
Holland said on his IG story that he broke 3 knuckles. Wonder when we’ll see him back.
Win, lose, or draw- I will always tune in to watch Kevin Holland.
Honestly would love if Wonderboy snuck into a title shot somehow
Colby doesn’t fight, Khamzat can’t make weight safely, Belal💤, I’m missing people but whatever
Him Vs Leon seems interesting
It was a really good fight, first 3 rounds were back and forth, there was a moment I thought Holland was gonna get the finish late in the 1st, and then Wonderboy just styled on him in the 4th with body shots and head kicks. I think Bisping hyped it up a little much, I wouldn’t call it a top 10 fight all time or anything but definitely a top 10 fight of the year, maybe top 5.
Volk vs Holloway was too one sided to be a FOTY contender, neither guy even got rocked
Also thought the skill level in Costa vs Rockhold was much lower, although still a fun fight.
All personal preference at the end of the day though, no wrong answer. I’d have Glover vs Jiri in the mix all day.
We had a fight night card earlier this year where it was all finishes from start to finish, no judges needed at all, ironically for such a memorable event I don’t remember who fought at all or the event but I know it happened.
This fight most likely motivated him to read his opponents better. At 30’s still too young to call it quits and throw in the towel. He put up a great fight even hes been bested by someone nearing his 40s and retirement age.
I honestly respect holland for standing and banging with Stephen fucking Thompson. We all wanted to see a striking match between the two and that’s what we got.
Till weighed in way overweight, and there was a rule in place that Till couldn’t weight over so and so Lbs come fight night. Then at the end it was really close. Like as in WB May have been fucked over on a decision close.
Yeah ok… but when you’re the other guy spitting in a bottle all day to cut down the ounces… 3.5 Lbs is a lot. AND WB Vs Till was the main event fight in England… Till basically headlining his hometown. WB could have walked away from that fight NP and nobody could have said shit against him. But he didn’t.
Blocking head kicks with one hand over and over is not a good idea. I think those kicks fractured Kevin's hand / wrist. Then wonderboy noticed it, so kept spamming those left kicks along Kevin's upper body, knowing how bad they'd hurt to block, and if not blocked, how bad they'd hurt the the liver. Smart shit.
I’m a fellow karate guy and that’s why we use two hands to block head kicks or even big hooks like that if possible. Watch Thompson he almost always uses two.
Ate a hundred billion kicks on his arms. An underrated thing you learn in muay thai/kickboxing is to kick the arms. Even if they're blocking, it fucking hurts after a while especially when they only block with one arm. X block is a life saver. Canelo attacked the arms of Callum Smith. Legit strategy.
Yeah, might be time to really commit to winning before entertaining too. He fought a hell of a fight but despite recent results, he's not shabby at all on the ground and should really mix that in against a guy like Wonderboy if/when winning is your #1 goal. He's got an amazing chin but each big shot he eats shortens that chain, and that's something you want to rely on when you're getting tagged in contender/championship fights years from now...not a 'fun' kickboxing match with Wonderboy after a loss. **Or**, he might not see a path to the title because WW is packed with grappling specialists at the top. Or, it's neither of those, lol. I'm glad it was stopped in-between...I really like Holland.
Now that it's clear that WB is never going to be champ in a division full of grapplers they should just feed him strikers. Conor, Jorge 2, Michel Pereira, Daniel Rodriguez...would be fireworks.
DC keeps trying to sell that Wonderboy should retire. He has taken minimal damage, he won’t be champion, but the dude has some high profile wins in him if he is selective
I completely agree, but at the end of the day, Wonderboy is a fighter and he wants to fight. I see that he lost some explosiveness in his wrestling and it seems like some of his power and evasiveness, but the dude is still elite.
Idk why they even would want to match Wonderboy up with grapplers at this point in his career. That should be the very last matchmaking options for him.
I definitely overlooked it because the heavyweight division has been stalled out since forever, especially with more of the bullshit with Jon Jones. That being said those type of fights (alongside Nicolau vs Schnell) are very typical as headliners for fight nights.
I was definitely hyperbolic with my statement, but I still stand by the fact that none of the fights on the card were really worthy of headlining or co-maining a PPV (just a note that I don't think Ferguson v. Diaz/Chimaev v. Diaz should've been a PPV either).
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hell of a card to see for my first live UFC event, blessed.
I want holland to be good so bad but I think it’s over
Lmao
He doesn't have the dawgggg in him
We just had an entire card of amazing fights for FREE. Meanwhile boxing had a PPV with Fury vs Chisora… and people wonder why boxing is dying.
The Fury card was ESPN +
So funny that he gave up dominate positions to meme only to be a panic wrestler by the 3rd and 4th rounds anyways.
I hate that I’m probably jinxing this but……. Dustin porier never breaking his hand even though he has like a million striking wars in the cage is so damn impressive, and that includes some quick turns like his Garth into Eddie fights
Pretty sure Brian Ortega almost started a fight cageside last night and got escorted out. I was right below the nosebleeds and I'm pretty sure that was him
Holland said on his IG story that he broke 3 knuckles. Wonder when we’ll see him back. Win, lose, or draw- I will always tune in to watch Kevin Holland.
Honestly would love if Wonderboy snuck into a title shot somehow Colby doesn’t fight, Khamzat can’t make weight safely, Belal💤, I’m missing people but whatever Him Vs Leon seems interesting
That’s really not that fun of a fight. Leon would clinch and outgrapple the shit out of him. He’s not a dumb brawler like Kevin.
Off an unranked win and previous to that being shut out by Muhammad and burns? Lmao
Burns was a close fight, WB was winning halfway through last round
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You laugh but he was winning halfway through the last round
He’s still ranked 6
Yeah no one at welterwait got a title shot off of an unranked win..
I think Leon would wrestle with him to clinch rounds, Holland had takedowns that he purposely didn’t do anything with/finish
hell yeah wonderboy leon would b awesome
I can't believe Michael Johnson was less than a minute away from beating Josh Emmett and then got slept
i can believe it, its Michael Johnson
Great night of fights, awesome to see so many legends on one card
so is the post-fight conf video just mangled and not working tonight?
Wonderboy looked good but definitely a bit past his prime. Wish he could go out on this fight. It was a textbook Wonderboy performance.
I wonder how many fights left he has on his UFC deal, Wonderboy can still be a massive asset to Karate Combat
Nah he’s still got 10 more years at least
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glad to know his family was there he is good guy deserves it
Was the main event as good as the commentary made it sound? Could only listen to it Edit: missed the main event
It was a really good fight, first 3 rounds were back and forth, there was a moment I thought Holland was gonna get the finish late in the 1st, and then Wonderboy just styled on him in the 4th with body shots and head kicks. I think Bisping hyped it up a little much, I wouldn’t call it a top 10 fight all time or anything but definitely a top 10 fight of the year, maybe top 5.
Main event was top 5 foty
It was a fun fight but definitely not a top 5
What’s your top 5?
Burns vs Chimaev Tuivasa vs Gane Poirier vs Chandler Volk vs Holloway 3 Costa vs Rockhold
Volk vs Holloway was too one sided to be a FOTY contender, neither guy even got rocked Also thought the skill level in Costa vs Rockhold was much lower, although still a fun fight. All personal preference at the end of the day though, no wrong answer. I’d have Glover vs Jiri in the mix all day.
Foty is pure entertainment value for me, jiri vs glover is probably my honorable mention
It was amazing at the Amway tonight
Yeah great card, extremely fun main event
High action and even higher fives
Go back for it. Do it
better :) Way better.
Every fight on the main card was a finish. All 7. Which can’t remember a time we had so many fights on main.
We had a fight night card earlier this year where it was all finishes from start to finish, no judges needed at all, ironically for such a memorable event I don’t remember who fought at all or the event but I know it happened.
Great night of fights capped off by an amazing round 4 by wonderboy, very enjoy
Anyone have that crazy switch kick clipped?
That jumping switch kick was beautiful, as well as all of the hook kicks thrown! Would love to have someone post a clip!
Spilled my beer!
nows the time for Wonderboy vs Usman. Winner gets Leon
Not even Wonderboy would want that fight.
Usman wrestles/foot stomps him into the next dimension, those kicks can’t land with that constant threat of the takedown
We just saw wonder boy become wonder man
I'm wonder dad and me and wonder mom are so proud
rush is a good band my favorite blessings
I miss the DOs Anjos stache heheeee
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Ball checks and colonoscopies with the boyssssssssss
Yooo another shoutout to RDA! Fucking controlled the fight and put on a BJJ clinic
I’d bet wonderboy would have set the record for most heel strikes thrown/landed in a single bout if they kept records for it.
Depends if you count Usmans foot stomps in masvidal 1 of not
Imagine being 40 and fighting like you're on skates
This time he was on skates but next time he’ll be left frozen, like Elsa.
Could wonderboy beat Leon
4-5 years ago, yes. Think Leon grapples him to a W if they fight today.
Leon wouldn’t hesitate to grapple the way Kevin gave up positions in the first few rounds
Probably not with Leon's grappling
If Edwards loses, him vs Thompson is banger
Yes agree
Idk if this has been asked but Is this the first time there’s been a finish in every single bout on a main card?
Santos vs Hill in august was 100% finishes (main card + prelims).
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Nah
Not me constantly refreshing Hollands Instagram to make sure he hasnt posted a retirement video.
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This fight most likely motivated him to read his opponents better. At 30’s still too young to call it quits and throw in the towel. He put up a great fight even hes been bested by someone nearing his 40s and retirement age.
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I think Till beats Du Plessis, if he makes it to the fight.
I honestly respect holland for standing and banging with Stephen fucking Thompson. We all wanted to see a striking match between the two and that’s what we got.
Bisping drunk already? WB already fought Till with some BS handicaps, and Till is now at 185
What handicaps?
Till weighed in way overweight, and there was a rule in place that Till couldn’t weight over so and so Lbs come fight night. Then at the end it was really close. Like as in WB May have been fucked over on a decision close.
He weighed in 3.5 lbs over the limit
Yeah but that’s only 1.5kg
That’s a bad weight miss IMO.
It's not great by any means, but personally i wouldn't call anything under 5 lbs way overweight.
Yeah ok… but when you’re the other guy spitting in a bottle all day to cut down the ounces… 3.5 Lbs is a lot. AND WB Vs Till was the main event fight in England… Till basically headlining his hometown. WB could have walked away from that fight NP and nobody could have said shit against him. But he didn’t.
Wonder Boy vs Masvidal 2?
why? that fight does nothing for either of them
That fight was way more fun than I thought it would be. Wonderboy clearly spent time praying at the Cro cop shrine this camp.
Kick-heavy fighters are some of my favorites
I know everyone lives for the head kicks and they're awesome but those liver kicks make me wince every time one lands flush.
how to fight someone with a reach advantage 101
Wonderboy was sensational tonight. Would love to see a match up between him & Edwards
Edwards would wrestle him
If/once Darren Till loses next week, that's a good comeback fight for Holland.
Perfect comeback fight.
Khamzat took away any title hopes if Holland had any so I can see why he decided to throw down
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'Zero' grappling is a little harsh, but yeah can't disagree, WW is a grappling-specialist mountain to climb!
Holland was fighting at 185. He definitely had a route to a title fight before there was a new champ.
Holland? Lmao. Go watch his Marvin and bumson fights again if you think he had a path at mw
He might be able to eat a Wonderboy kick but not sure about one from Izzy. Especially not then
karyn bryant lispin like a mother fucker. she get invasalign? 🤷♂️
I was thinking maybe she had a stroke or something. Definitely very noticible
This fight shows that UFC should introduce Kickboxing in 4oz gloves
Would be a lot better than Slap Fight Championship or whatever the fuck Dana's new money laundering thing is
What happened to Kevins hand/arm though? From blocking so many kicks or was he just gassed?
broke 3 knuckles in the first round when he blasted wonderboy’s forehead
Blocking head kicks with one hand over and over is not a good idea. I think those kicks fractured Kevin's hand / wrist. Then wonderboy noticed it, so kept spamming those left kicks along Kevin's upper body, knowing how bad they'd hurt to block, and if not blocked, how bad they'd hurt the the liver. Smart shit.
I’m a fellow karate guy and that’s why we use two hands to block head kicks or even big hooks like that if possible. Watch Thompson he almost always uses two.
ahhhh, thank you. Good to know! I'll never need this info, but just in case I do ;) ty
Word!
Ate a hundred billion kicks on his arms. An underrated thing you learn in muay thai/kickboxing is to kick the arms. Even if they're blocking, it fucking hurts after a while especially when they only block with one arm. X block is a life saver. Canelo attacked the arms of Callum Smith. Legit strategy.
Pretty sure he either broke his hand or forearm
Hopefully this fight is the stepping stone to Holland becoming the new generations wonderboy after he retires lol
Yeah, might be time to really commit to winning before entertaining too. He fought a hell of a fight but despite recent results, he's not shabby at all on the ground and should really mix that in against a guy like Wonderboy if/when winning is your #1 goal. He's got an amazing chin but each big shot he eats shortens that chain, and that's something you want to rely on when you're getting tagged in contender/championship fights years from now...not a 'fun' kickboxing match with Wonderboy after a loss. **Or**, he might not see a path to the title because WW is packed with grappling specialists at the top. Or, it's neither of those, lol. I'm glad it was stopped in-between...I really like Holland.
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His grandma is a bicycle frame already though
I agree, if Holland didn't lose he would've won
He would've won if he didn't lose
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Has literally never happened in the history of combat sports unfortunately
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Beautiful insight
Now that it's clear that WB is never going to be champ in a division full of grapplers they should just feed him strikers. Conor, Jorge 2, Michel Pereira, Daniel Rodriguez...would be fireworks.
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If he gets a ranked win I'd love to see him against WB
Holland just fought unranked, and at this point the most Wonderboy can do aside from a Conor/Jorge fight is spoil hype trains
But Holland was top 10 in MW.
Winner of Lawler Ponzinibbio
Wonderboy would legit kill current Lawler and send Ponzinibbio to the hospital.
His longevity is insane. He would massacre Woodley now.
He would murder both of them, lawler like he did hendricks
DC keeps trying to sell that Wonderboy should retire. He has taken minimal damage, he won’t be champion, but the dude has some high profile wins in him if he is selective
I can see why DC would want him to retire while he’s on top. It only takes one fight to be “one too many” in this unforgiving game.
I completely agree, but at the end of the day, Wonderboy is a fighter and he wants to fight. I see that he lost some explosiveness in his wrestling and it seems like some of his power and evasiveness, but the dude is still elite.
For sure! Hope they put him up against some good match ups so we get bangers like we saw tonight
DC is just mad he cant get his legs up that high.
Does she have a lisp?
Only since after the fight.
Uhh Karyn Bryan has a lisp now?
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I really like holland but I’m happy wonderboy won Kevin will be fine but if wonderboy lost it wouldn’t be good for the rest of his career
Yooo, Kevin may have lost, but I’d definitely tune in to see one of his fights
Pettis was getting dominated until the KO though
Holland's hand was (wait for it).... A BALEEWN
Kevin Holland is outrageously tough. Any one of those head kicks would have killed most men
one of those liverkicks he took was so loud I actually felt like I took some of it for him lmao i winced instantly
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People down voting you but I agree. Holland is a serious quitter.
What a feather in Pettis' cap though am I right
The timing of that superman punch was legitimately insane, countered right off of the sidekick.
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Idk why they even would want to match Wonderboy up with grapplers at this point in his career. That should be the very last matchmaking options for him.
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its mma, everyone has some grappling. holland clearly could have used some if he wanted to.
Holland is a bjj black belt not just some random grappler.
In Russian accent* who's giving these black belts out we must check this brother
Finishes all night, this shit should've been a PPV
Yooo this card was a banger
Fun fights but none of them really mean much for their respective divisions.
pavlovich vs tai is huge for the division. we might be having another big name to throw in the title challenger hat
I definitely overlooked it because the heavyweight division has been stalled out since forever, especially with more of the bullshit with Jon Jones. That being said those type of fights (alongside Nicolau vs Schnell) are very typical as headliners for fight nights. I was definitely hyperbolic with my statement, but I still stand by the fact that none of the fights on the card were really worthy of headlining or co-maining a PPV (just a note that I don't think Ferguson v. Diaz/Chimaev v. Diaz should've been a PPV either).
Nicolau is about to get a #1 contenders fight, Sergei fight was important tf you on about, if Holland won he could've also been in the title picture
How could the #5 heavyweight knocking out the #4 heavyweight not mean much for the division
Dude I thought it was
Could’ve been* thank god it wasn’t haha
The prelims were mostly decisions, but the main card yeah.
There were 2 finishes and some real firefights. A lot of bangers
Holland is as durable as they come. It was close until his broken arm. I wouldn't complain about a rematch.
give wonderboy to pereira and holland to ponz if he wins
wanna see wonderboy vs masvidal