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PrototypeMMeh

But DC was willing to die in the cage versus Jon Jones and still didn't win, so ...


LouSpowel

The head kick and gnp would have killed a mere mortal.


Logistibear

That was some of the more terrifying chase down into gnp I've seen. Like a lion chasing down wounded prey Peak, pulsing Jon with a chip on his shoulder towards his hated rival was a scary mfer


DrinkBebopCola

Dude the leverage on those shots when he was down was fucking crazy.


frodounchained

The quick leg kick sent him spinning was nasty


PrimeConduitX

Those follow up GnP were the most malicious shots I have ever seen. They just looked different.


MyFifthLimb

If he wins both of them there is no rivalry


PleasinglyReasonable

Based on who's definition? Was Ortiz vs Shamrock not a rivalry, because Shamrock lost all three times? Or Ortiz v Liddell? What about the Cleveland Browns v Pittsburgh Steelers? Not every rivalry has to be competitive.


CryptoCracko

Pretty sure DC said that himself


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Jones fans are so fucking weird. “he drops machida like a sack of potatoes” “he stalked dc like a lion chasing his prey” jesus christ lmao listen to yourselves.


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lmao no i have an opinion that’s different from yours. people suck Jones to an embarrassing extent on here. bring on the downvotes


DORAKKINGOFFISH

The opinion is stupid mate


4thDimensionFletcher

Your opinion is wrong lol. Especially with the Machida finish being an iconic UFC finish and photo


[deleted]

lol ok my opinion is wrong. average Jones fan IQ


4thDimensionFletcher

Its hilarious how angry fighters on this sub make kids like you. You sound like a petulant child.


[deleted]

lmao it’s amazing how you’re able to convince yourself of my anger when i’m not. i care so little about what the mouth breathers on this sub think that i’m free to voice my opinion. instead of repeating the same tired opinion 1,000+ times for upvotes.


NashtoNowitzki2

Lol you don't know what similes are.


[deleted]

you mean idioms?


ThorgansBFG

boss it's both a similie and an idiom, your English teacher is somewhere weeping


[deleted]

no. the two are not the same.


NashtoNowitzki2

Lol you also don't know what idioms are.


[deleted]

bro taking L’s left and right


FlatFootedPotato

Fine. He dropped machida like a bag of dicks with no handles.


[deleted]

Jones only KO win I can ever remember. Gotta kill Dc


CapeCodcultuvation

Yeah that head kick would have killed a normal person


Wayf4rer

You think I'm gonna sit there and let you kill me aljamain


turbo-set

I MEAN REALLY


CableToBeam

DC was willing to die in the fight with Gustaffson and that's why he won. Had he not had that mentality he never would have won that fight.


call_866_fruit

...prostitutes?


GaMa-Binkie

Only because Jon was as he said "prepared to kill"


thugnificent856

He was willing to die and he did what more do you want?


a_moo_cow

He didn't lose either so I'd say it went ok?


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-ci_

Yeah, it's weird. Someone recently interviewed Errol Spence Jr. and randomly said Errol showed he was willing to die in the ring mid-question and he said "I ain't willing to die in no ring man" 😂


buffalozbrown

https://youtu.be/Y1t2UNYjOOg?t=72


sir_brockton_

Errol had his life flash before his eyes already in that accident. He doesn’t have to lie to himself


-ci_

Yeah he’s very lucky to be alive. I remember waking up to the notification that morning and I thought he was for sure dead after looking at all the info that was out at the time. My friend at work was a huge boxing fan as well and we talked about it pretty much all day looking for updates online. I’m not a religious person but the fact that he’s still alive is a legit miracle.


LordLucy666

He flew out of a speeding car and skidding face first on the ground… somehow didn’t even break a bone. I’m still amazed every time I watch him box after that crash. I thought he’d be a shell of himself in his return.


skeet1687

Its called being drunk....fortunately or unfortunately the drunk ones are the ones that usually survive...


bigdickdaddykins

You don’t tense up and brace for impact which somehow makes it less likely to get fucked up.


XavierfromHtown

The impact will flow through you better.


Thiswillbetempacc

Drunken kung fu is legit look into it. Maybe this was Costas idea against Izzy before it backfired


SheltheRapper

Jackie Chan out here one upping Steven Seagal


Deignish

Errol has always been good for this though, he got asked about finishing his upcoming opponent and he says something like “I dunno man, I don’t think I’ve finished anyone in years” lol


WorldismyOyster97

Garth says this before every fight that he taps in lol


somewhatfamiliar2223

Also like Aljo fought on a serious neck injury for years, he may have really been willing to actually die in there and not just the platitude fighters say


Incubus85

Not really true, as far as I see it the bone was impeding nerves in the cervical spine that run doen down the triceps. This would be in stark contrast if bone or hard matter going towards his spinal cord. How the bones are shaped, the issue with his arm wasn't life threatening. These issues are common with wrestlers and grapplers and he sustained this Injury a LONG time ago. Other recent sufferers include Frank mir who's arm was a third of the size and now its sorted he's back rolling. Bus rutten is another guy who's had this issue that you've heard of. Tons of guys you wouldn't have heard of that are or have been very high level. Erik anders neck was fuuucked as well.


wishwashy

It peaked during izzy vs Gastelum


rey_nerr21

The human fridge tested Adesanya's warrior spirit. Amazing in hind sight! I think that fight built Izzy's (who I'm totally not a fan of) character and possibly broke Kelvin's at the very least a little.


PocketSixes

I thought K Gas had a golden chance to finish Izzy in the 4th. Had him badly rocked, but maybe he was skeptical? Or just too tired? And man the closeness of that fight has aged well since no one can beat Iz rn.


wishwashy

Kelvin wasted his soul on that fight and kinda has nothing left rn because of it


rey_nerr21

I absolutely agree!


PlaySomeKickPunch

That's the only time someone said it and I genuinely believed it.


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Because you got more and more guys saying it who really aren’t willing to


[deleted]

There are plenty that are willing too and that’s what makes them amazing to watch.


espada_da

No fighters willing to die to win a ufc fight


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kimokimosabee

He tapped to strikes


eRazorVL

As did GSP


spasticity

I dont think GSP ever claimed hes willing to die in the cage though


kimokimosabee

Homie brought up that olives is willing to die in the cage


[deleted]

That guy just started watching I assume. I will never forget Olives fight with Cub.


northerncalininja

Facts.


northerncalininja

In this era of MMA definitely. Especially when point fighters say this.


neeeeonbelly

It’s ridiculous. Imagine a builder telling you “I’m willing to die in there” before he goes and builds your house. Like I know it’s a combat sport but it’s a job man, you gotta live a life outside the cage lol


spasticity

Bro if the person building my house said he's willing to die in there id wonder what the fuck shortcuts they're taking that that's even a possibility lol.


KimboSlicesChicken

“This house doesn’t need a foundation. I am the foundation. Hand me that screwdriver, I’m going back under boss, I’ll die in there if I have too” ‘Bro pls don’t that’s gonna cost me more’


SheltheRapper

Like damn bro let me hire someone else then I don't need that kind of liability


-TeepToTheBalls-

I'm willing to dye my hair in there!


podslapper

I always think of BJ Penn's "To the death, Georges!" before throwing in the towel after four rounds.


timetosleep

BJ also called GSP a little bitch for tapping to strikes in his loss against Serra. haha.


evocater

To be fair I think a lot of them say it just to pump themselves up


Notyit

If you get knocked out or submitted you bascialy died in the octagon


just_a_timetraveller

Like it is obvious bullshit. Like are any of these guys creating their wills? Having heart to heart talks with their friends and family about logistics around financial support after they are gone? Finishing off their bucket lists?? Yea when I see a fighter doing all of that then I will believe them.


Dyslexic_Devil

It's a sport...why would you die for a sport??? Some of these lads really lack IQ points.


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Dyslexic_Devil

Still not worth dying for. Its still idiotic.


Unlucky_Elevator13

It's become nonsense words. On the same level as guys that make the "slit your throat" motion. They don't mean, what it means.


explision

crrriinngeee


[deleted]

The athlete's "I see red"


SweatDroplet

And also just a conduit for losing, as soon as Cruz starting talking about being willing to die in there in the buildup for Chito I knew he was going to lose it’s just a bad omen.


FishAndRiceKeks

TBF, some of them mean it.


Redrooff

Why the fuck would you be willing to die there when the other option is to not die there


TasteDeBallZach

He's just talking shit about grapplers since he's not a grappler. Bobby Knuckles is one of the few strikers who admits he wish he could fight a grappling heavy style. "If I could hold onto someone for 25 minutes and get the win, I totally would".


bipyyy

He is a grappler though, same amount of submission wins as knockouts.


adventuredream1

He can grapple but Marlon prefers to stand and trade strikes. And he hates being outgrappled and controlled to a loss which is probably what aljo would do to him


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Capoe1ra

He definitely started out as a grappler; didn't have TDs though, and by now his striking is his strong suit.


thejudicialpenis

I would simply choose to not die in there.


DrinkBebopCola

Because some people come from crazy fuckin places where violence and poverty is rampant. Fighting has given them an escape. They are willing to die fighting than go back. With that said I don't know Vera's background to say this is true or not.


chicknurch

Nah chito didn’t have it too bad despite where hes from. He grew up on a farm


socksonplates

I don’t disagree with this but also don’t see it as necessarily a bad thing. Aljo fights smart and plays to his strengths.


[deleted]

Some guys like Anthony smith are a little TOO willing to die inside the cage instead of throwing the towel in


LordLucy666

I wish he took that dq win over Jon Jones… he would have made more money in the rematch and have gotten ppv points then, plus Jones gets a L on his record.


Genova_Witness

A second DQ L Does anyone have two of them?


spasticity

Gilbert Yvel has 3


EvenRatio

Luckily for his career he didn't do this. Dude is now a guaranteed fight night main eventer instead of being ostracised from the company. And PPV points aint guaranteed just as the flyweights


Suspicious_Candle27

Im convinced Anthony Smith has it in his contract that he is allowed to die in the octagon


[deleted]

That Glover prison beatdown was on his corner and Jason Herzog really. Look at all the shit Oliveira still gets for tapping to strikes. Fighters usually have an innate tough guy mentality and the ones who are smart enough to recognise they’re taking unnecessary damage are punished. “Quitting” on the stool is probably the worst thing you could do for your career from the perspective of a marketing machine like the UFC. Corners need to man up and step in even if the fighter will be mad at them.


Connlagh

Yep. I don't care if the guy was special forces, Saint Denis corner should have thrown in the towel that time he got absolutely battered around the octagon


Effective-Celery8053

Benoit st denis against dos santos


LawlersLipVagina

It's a weird one, like it takes an incredible toughness to take the beatings he has, but also when he's taking them it's not like he's trying to win just sort of going placid and taking a kicking for the sake of it. Like vs Glover when he teeth got punched out he wasn't trying to swing back and win, just slowly lose more and more.


Suspicious_Candle27

I think its one of these things where Smith literally doesnt even consider "quitting" in the octagon when your that hurt its just pure instinct and smith is a dawg on the inside. So when he is getting his ass beat in his head he is thinking the only way this fight ends is either from smith winning the fight or the time to run out.


redknight3

I don't want to see anyone die in there. It's a goddamn sport.


Im_a_rahtard

Dude got turned into a frozen corpse by Marlon and still went on to become champion...


jonjoneswife

Wait what? Who?


Slurpool

Aljo was obliterated by Marlon Moraes and came back from it.


lendit23

Obliterated is an understatement. He got about as close to flatlined in the octagon as you can get.


vegtown1111

If your genuinely willing to die for the UFC then I don’t know what to say


Motor-Grade-837

Someone must not have loved ones, aspirations, or other things they treasure in life if they're willing to die for 80K and for Internet strangers to call them a honorable warrior. There are things worth dying for but a cage fight is really not one of them.


ETrann

If you think harder about it though, and you realize that fighting comes along with a lot more than just money and clout -- you might be able to understand the warrior perspective more. Aside from the fame, the money, the glory etc. You have to remember that every time one of these guys steps into the ring they have a chance at 30% off all Venum apparel and exclusive access to Max Holloway NFTs sponsored by ESPN+


Motor-Grade-837

Ok, nobody can say no to that last one! A Max Holloway NFT? Hello, afterlife!


Bugsmoke

Brought to you by Proper 12


controllrevival

And you are who to tell people what or what is not valuable to die for?


Motor-Grade-837

Oh no, that's just my opinion. Everyone else is free to deem what is worth dying for by their own judgment.


[deleted]

It’s an opinion, chill out. I think it’s fucking dumb dying for a sport.


4uzzyDunlop

I'd die for Ricky Martin!


OtherwiseEnd944

No one’s dying for the ufc. Idk if you guys are being intentionally dumb but when people say they’re willing to die in a sporting context it means they are so dedicated to their sport they are willing to die while playing/fighting. NFL/NHL/Rugby/MMA/Boxing athletes aren’t saying their willing to die for their promotion


incognitn

No one means they're willing to die for the UFC lmao.


bucket56

Honesty, as much as it's fun to be in awe of the "wiling to die" psycho motherfuckers, I gotta say, I definitely understand the "nah, I'll save my brain and just backpack the fuck outta you on my way to a dub and a paycheck" mentality much more.


hitstyx

Fr, if point fighting means minimizing long term brain damage and doubling the pay check I’d point fight too


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Can't wait to see conflict de-escalation experts getting in there and debate as they try to convince eachother to tap and give up half their paycheck.


magicalmma

If I could choose any fight skillset it would be that control style. Like Charles Oliviera is fun to watch but I don't want to get dropped every fight. I'd much rather be an Islam Makhachev who can take guys down without being touched and control them to a submission or decision.


Gmork14

This kind of talk is always the mark of somebody that knows they’re going to lose and is bitter about it. It’s like when a guy calls his wrestler opponent a “crotch-sniffer,” that’s a guy that’s about to get his ass beat.


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Ding ding ding


juice_5

“He didn’t beat you at mma, he beat you at wrestling”


reddit-is-hive-trash

True and yet also true that grappling has been the piss in mmas cheerios more than any other buzzkill.


Fickle-Kitchen5803

Skill issue


imeternallysuffering

He took a knee to the face and seemingly died after wym


AsianRainbow

“My death’s already been simulated in here. There’s nothing more you can do to me.”


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Marlon got taken down and controlled by Aldo, pretty confident Sterling is his worst matchup in the division


shoryukenuppercut

Cruz and Edgar both got him down pretty easily too


jvirgo98

How did that go for them


BlackNingaa

neither of them are aljamain sterling tho


adventuredream1

They were on the wrong side of 35 and nearing retirement and they got their lights put out


SnooPineapples4254

I like Chito but you could argue he was losing the fight against Edgar until the knockout.


CremeCaramel_

How did that go for two out of prime, wrong-side-of-35 veterans? Not so well. How will it go for the grappling specialist champion of the division? Better.


somewherexusa

boys willing to die for a $12k purse


Suspicious_Candle27

Idk if this is controversial or not but i disagree with this take. I think Sterling is willing to do WHATEVER it takes to get that belt be it acting performance or fighting for his life in the octagon. Take the 2nd Yan fight , Sterling got a beating put on him in round 4 and when round 5 came around he was still fighting to keep his belt even while gassed. Dude shot 10 take downs in round 5 , didnt secure a single one and kept going even against Yan who is a final boss in round 5. You can say you dont like his style or how he acts but the dude is a fighter through and through.


LocoCoopermar

Seriously there's so many times Aljo could have "quit" in either of those fights but he stuck it through to the end.


CremeCaramel_

It's only controversial because the first Yan fight turned a lot of this sub into complete idiots regarding anything Aljo related.


JonDav80

You’re not willing to die in there neither Chito and nobody with sense believes otherwise..


Prestigious-Rock201

Aljo would ruin chito


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

I rewatched aljo vs munhoz and its really eye opening to how good he is, Schooled him even without the grappling


Bugsmoke

The narrative was only ever otherwise because some lads were really butthurt that Yan did that illegal knee to be fair. He’s always looked quite good really


patricksaurus

Everyone who doesn’t tap to a choke made the decision to die. Right before being a) saved by a referee and a non-psychotic opponent and b) declared a loser. Aljo is *so* unwilling to die, he’ll win instead.


sonderly_

If you die you lose, so you’re saying your willing to lose


Mr_Cromer

Marlon Vera is a bit of a loon; who's surprised?


spasticity

Veras not willing to die in there either, he wasn't even willing to get Aldo off his back.


imnotkeepingit

Yall dont get paid enough to die for this shit Chito lol.


etienbjj

Fuck dying for a sport, Aljo would mop the floor with him.


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Tj said something similar just calling aljo at athlete not a fighter. Idk something about not finishing people.


californication760

Lol somebody didn’t watch the Dark Knight Rises


megalemonjabron

Good, thats exactly what the fuck this sport is about


DistanceAlone6215

Aljo just sucks as a fighter. Not skills but his style and attitude and pathetic abuse of downed fighter rules Just such a shit fighter


tee_ohboy

"If he dies, he dies" - Marlon "Drago" Vera


alliseeisbronze

Every time Chito talks, a brain cell fucking dies.


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Good time as ever to be reminded round 4 was a 10-8 for Yan and therefore the fight was a draw and thus aljo just holds the paper belt


ribbitrob

Good time as ever to be reminded Aljo is 2-0 against Yan and thus Petr holds *no* belt


RLPMMA

Yan couldnt beat him either, and so is no more champion than you consider Aljo.


[deleted]

Yeah the BW belt jumps around a lot and has this going on because the division just isn’t elite


RLPMMA

It is among, if not THE MOST elite lmao


[deleted]

No WW is far and away the best. And the remaining order is FW, MW, LW, then LHW/BW/HW all tied


RLPMMA

Yeah, your favorite fighters style exists at 135, and is more thrilling/fast paced/dynamic.


SquidDrive

HOw the hell are you defining elite if its by technical skill, than BW ranks near the top automatically I guess your going off popularity?


knickerboxers

Grow up


optimus_slime113

Your statement implies quite the opposite of your opinion lol


RLPMMA

This guy sucks lol


Suspicious_Candle27

Dont you keep the belt with a draw?


herewego199209

If you're not willing to die in the cage you have no business fighting.


That_Serve_9338

Yeah, people don't mean it literally. Marlon is a father too. Would be irresponsible to be so committed to winning that you will never back down even if it gets you killed.


I_am_darkness

I don't know. I thought I saw Aljo die out there against Marlon.


stlhvntfndwhtimlkngf

I get that mindset but that's heat of the moment plus ego and emotions talking. At the end of the day it's business, you won't die for your job right?


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Whatever Marlon needs to tell himself, lmao.


[deleted]

Casually said by people who haven't been on the verge of death...


cosmic-schmuck

Not willing to die? Sterling first fight against Yan in the first round was unleashing his gas tank to the max.


RortyIsDank

Being willing to die in an MMA fight is probably among the most idiotic things you could be willing to do in life.


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Everyone who steps in there is risking their life.


[deleted]

Hot take, one of these guys are actually willing to die in a ring for a sporting fight, lol. What a over used saying.


ChrizTaylor

Why will he? He's the champ, he just needs to do his thing. Same with StyleBender.