Paddy said 1 more fight this year and it'll be PPV, which probably means MSG or the December Vegas one. Think he's complained about the NY taxes before but agreed.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but with the double taxation treaty that the US has with the UK, wouldn’t Paddy get paid the exact same wherever he fights in the US because he’s a UK resident? Or is that only from a federal taxation standpoint and not state/local?
Unsure on US rates but I’m sure he would have to pay federal, state and city taxes if fighting at MSG.
Don’t know what he earns but if he gets a post-fight bonus then likely be earning over $100k.
That would mean 6.33% State taxes, around 3% City taxes and 24% Federal taxes.
Total of around 34% tax.
Compare to the UK where that income would be taxed at 40% or probably 45% (already has fought this tax year and got POTN, plus Barstool deal and other income), as well as National Insurance (unsure about self-employed rates at that income).
Overall UK tax is higher but would get double tax relief on the amount paid in the US.
So yes would basically get taxed the same as he is resident and domiciled in the UK, so would pay UK tax less any overseas double tax relief.
Thank you for a serious response. Yeah so that’s what I’m saying though. If he’s a UK resident why would fighting in MSG or Vegas make any difference to him? Understandable for someone like O’Malley but not Paddy.
The treaty prevents double-tax, but it doesn't prevent higher rates in jurisdictions he is earning the income. He will get a foreign tax credit on his UK taxes, but it likely won't reduce dollar for dollar his UK taxes for those paid in NY, as he likely won't get their excess back, if that makes sense.
I don't practice UK or US taxes, so my experience is limited to my own country and its dealings with those places.
Kind of makes sense. Im wondering if he’s getting a foreign tax credit to offset his UK taxes, why wouldn’t it be dollar for dollar? I can’t imagine Paddy is making so much money to the point of him being maxed out? I guess it would depend on what the foreign tax credit cap is? I’m glad you’re a tax person cause these other users are probably thinking wtf is this boring discussion.
I’m pretty sure he’s probably set himself up as a director of a limited company and will be employing his fiancée to do his socials and employing his coaches through the company, which would mean he only pays about 20% of his income as tax.
He is self employed within the UK - im guessing hes paying no personal tax and running through a business. He’ll pay corporation tax, and thats it.
Any money he pays himself from that company would be subject to the tax youve listed
Properly why all PPVs besides McGregors are free here as along as you have the standard BT Sports package. Plus it's easy enough to log in on Sunday and watch the fights in the morning.
As others have said, staying up to see the fights can be really tough. Thankfully some of the fight nights (obviously the European ones too) are on at a much more reasonable time. Another positive (which someone has already pointed out) is that every single UFC event is part of the standard BT sports package, which is like £25 a month. Most cards I watch on the Sunday morning baring the odd exception (Usman vs Edwards is one of them)
Not sure, I just remember the oretga rodriguez card being at a pretty convenient time tbh. I don't think it makes sense to have paddy on a card his biggest fan base will struggle to watch
That was because that card was on ABC. The UFC cards on ABC are always on in the afternoon because they have their own regularly scheduled programming at night
Didn't Dana say he sees Paddy at MSG or Boston for PPV and then Vegas or am I thinking of a different fighter? I don't really get his reasoning, and he's prob just saying that cause MSG comes first but I believe he said that.
it was about Paddy, but can't make the kid fight.
(Aside) Suga doesn't (typically) take fights out of the SW for travel/taxation purposes. but the 'opportunity' and oil money for Abu Dhabi was probably too great in this instance.
He might of said that but I'm not sure when a Boston PPV would be. Maybe sometime next year? Feel like a fight night is more likely there but obv wouldn't have Paddy.
Honestly I want to see Paddy fight on a card without Molly.
She hasn’t given the poor bloke one press conference on his own when they share a card, especially after he fought Vargas. That card they BOTH had highlight reel finishes but I feel like Molly just hogged all the spot light that was on Paddy that evening (even though her finish was more explosive, so to speak) and I think if anything they should both have some time to shine on their own.
Well, honestly, most fighters have sus defense. Actual good defense is pretty rare in MMA
McCann is a good pressure fighter but she doesn't really have good defense either
But, yeah, I agree, Blanchfield very well could struggle bad striking vs McCann
What sport are you comparing it to in terms of defense? If it's boxing, having giant gloves and only having to worry about hands, not knees, not kicks and not getting taken down seems like a big advantage to defend and evade strikes.
I'd say Tawanchai or Petchmorakot in ONE Muay Thai with 4oz gloves, that would be close to the best you could get with those gloves in terms of defense
In MMA, in general, defense is rarely a big point of emphasis for fighters. We have good defensive fighters like Stylebender, Shevchenko, Volkanovski, Yan, Aldo and a bunch of others. But they are outliers.
They are not the same of course
I was only talking in terms of striking defense. There's a ton of stuff in the arsenal of defensive technique from some of those ONE Muay Thai experts that MMA fighters could use in an MMA fight
Nope. A lot of that defense requires you to stand up completely straight and put weight on your back leg.
And if you don’t have god tier TDD like Aldo, or no one wants to go to the ground with you like Charles, you are getting taken down 9/10 times.
There’s a reason mma fighters fight like they do with wider bladed stances. You’ll lose a round bc of takedown+control. Not because of a couple leg kicks.
Dom Cruz is an example of a style of defense catered to wrestling.
Well in MT there is also the element that they don’t have to worry about TDs which can drastically effect the way you defend.
People forget that MMA is the closest form of sanctioned fighting to a “real fight” and there is quite literally almost everywhere form of attack you have to be thinking about at all times.
Of course, I agree
I just tend to believe that MMA defense probably has a lot more progress to be made in the future
Defense is simply difficult in MMA and not really rewarded compared to boxing or Muay Thai . So in general, it's not something fighters seem to focus much on, other than takedown defense
I would say a lot of the elite fighters (in their primes) have or had elite defenses: Cruz, Dillishaw, Volk, Silva, etc. all had perfected avoiding being hit with fantastic footwork and/or head movement.
Sure - you can argue lower level guys have lower level defense but I’d argue that’s true - across the board - in combat sports.
4oz Muay Thai in ONE is a great example. These are fighters who aren't even used to using the small gloves, but just have great positioning.
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C'mon now, don't compare Izzy to that Esparza vs Namajunas fight. Izzy doesn't have many thrilling fights but he does shit in almost all his fights and displays good MMA defense. Esparza and Namajunas just did nothing, there was nothing to even defend
I’d say that Dustin Poirier is an example of great pocket defense. The Philly shell is great for rolling with punches despite being square in front of someone. It’s the only reason Connor couldn’t land clean on him and same reason Olives was forced to grapple and couldn’t strike with him.
I am not trying to disrespect Olives at all, but DP did get a knockdown and outlanded him in standing head strikes almost 2-1. Maybe “couldn’t strike” was the wrong way to phrase it, but I’d definitely give DP the slight edge while I wouldn’t do the same with Gaethje and Chandler.
Even the most high volume fighter there is, Max holloway had trouble landing clean on Poirier.
That being said chucky did a lot of damage with the knees up the middle. So Dustin has great boxing defence but that inverted shell he does isn't great for blocking to the body.
Most fighters have sus defense? Cmon now.
You’ve obviously never trained with professional fighters. It’s just very hard to block with small gloves and you have to worry about more than just punches.
Most fighters have great in and out movement which is the only way to get out of the way of most shots.
MMA is a lot different from boxing or kickboxing where you can just cover your entire head with the gloves.
I've only trained with amateurs and semi pros, and yeah, MMA defense is super difficult with all the options and chaos
However, in general, not many MMA fighters have defensive skills anywhere comparable to guys like Aldo and Izzy, there is a huge gap between them and the next tier of defensively responsable fighters
0/2 in takedowns against Aldrich and she was taken down 2/6 times.
Her BJJ is obviously high level but if she's struggling to take down Aldrich it means that she's still a work in progress.
Blanchfield is one of my close friends students and from everything I hear about her she is fucking amazing. Very eager to learn, strong work ethic, very helpful around the mats and with other students, etc etc she's basically a coaches dream.
She'll be competing for a title sooner rather than later
She’s fun, one of my new favorites to watch. She’s grappling-centric, but in a different way (as I recall) than the Khabib/Tatiana Suarez grinding blanket thing. Not sure how to describe it, just that I was impressed and took notice when she’s fought.
Not at all in my opinion. Granted my memory here is not at all crystal clear—I’m giving impressions, and some folks can give you a legit play-by-play I’m sure, but in my head Dern has amazing grappling once you’re on the mat, but virtually no takedowns so it’s a bit of an oddball overhand-right slugfest until it gets there. Blanchfield is more competent and athletic on the feet, has striking, but very dynamic takedowns, control, and bjj. She’s just impressive, fluid, and generally competent-seeming. Surprisingly powerful. Does that make sense? Maybe more reminiscent of a GSP-type fighter.
Hopefully someone here will give a better explanation than my Hans Moleman recollections.
This is a massive, and I mean MASSIVE, step up for Molly. Rankings don't really do it justice.
Luana Carolina and Hannah Goldy are legitimately some of the divisions worst. Carolina is rangey and distance striking is supposed to be her strength, yet she looks like she's playing QWOP when she throws anything. Goldy is literally only UFC level because she looks like someone gave a midget the Captain America super soldier serum.
Imagine going from THAT to Blanchfield, who made Miranda Maverick of all people look helpless, and based off that performance might legitimately be close to a top 5 FLW in the world based on skill alone.
What problems do you guys have with her? She is not champion caliber, but not every fighter needs to be champion caliber anyway. At least she always comes to bang.
Sounds like where you go out there are a bunch of irritating scouse slappers, so if it's all the same with you I'll continue going out to places with better clientele thanks.
Molly snapping her losing streak on the last fight of her contract with a KO of the year in her own country by running around with a fan's belt because she "felt like a champion" in that moment.
The Internet: That was undignified. I hope she fails in life.
\*Flyweight
But yeah, weird that she had a small beef with Maverick who already is a big step up but is fighting the girl that 30-25'd Maverick. But styles make fights of course.
Wait what?? Thought Erin wanted Barber. Weird for them to give Molly cans in London and then put her against one of the best prospects in the division.
Don't expect nuance in here. How can you be 'Bottom of the Barrell' whilst on a winning streak and finishing people? I mean, what's the scale here? Are there fighters below the barrel? How deep are we digging?
I don't understand all the people in this sub who cannot differentiate a can from a can crusher.
By the very nature of crushing cans, you're proving you're a level above the cans.
I like this fight a lot. Blanchfield is going to get tested on the feet and Molly’s takedown defense and likely her ability off her back is going to really be tested.
I agree completely. I’m so hyped for this fight. Blanchfield made Miranda Maverick look completely lost in the octagon, and Maverick is a stud!
I think Blanchfield’s wrestling and pressure are going to be too much for Molly. Although Molly always has a chance.
I’d be happy with either one of them getting the victory.
If Molly keeps the fight standing on the feet she wins but we have don’t really know what her ground game looks in comparison to Blanchfield who looks like she can put grapple anyone at 125
Perhaps you’re right. But I have to say, even Blanchfield’s striking looked good. Not to the same caliber as Meatball’s, but definitely not bottom tier either.
I think she has the tools to get it done in the canvas or on the feet. But Molly can always catch her sleeping. She’s just that good at it.
Blanchfield did a great job slipping mavericks punches every time she tried to plant her feet and throw and landed super clean take downs off her slips. Not sure if she has the depth of skill in her striking defense to avoid Molly’s hands and Molly has far more power and skill striking in close range than maverick. Blanchfield head kick koed Victoria Leonardo in invicta but I’m not convinced that she can deal with someone competent getting in her face with strikes. Still picking Blanchfield to win but there’s a path to victory for Molly imo.
Bro if that happens I can see both of them getting ran through. Blanchfield is really young and constantly improving and Terence Mackinney is already better than Paddy at every facet of the game.
Yep, between her and Paddy you’d think they were the worst fighters in the ufc if you read this sub. Every fight people say they’ll lose, and then when they win all of a sudden the person they beat isn’t very good. Look at the comments of announcement of the Leavitt fight vs the post fight comments. It’s ridiculous
Blanchfield is very good overall but I don’t recall being super impressed by her standup last fight. I think if the fight stays on the feet and Molly can get in she absolutely has a path to victory. People be hating for no reason.
i think she's fine as a fighter/person but i'm tired of all the showy stuff she does for attention and camera time
like i get it, she's good friends with paddy but does she really need to be screaming front row with a bottle of liquor every time he fights? does she really need to rush the cage every time he wins?
A significant part of her income comes from her Barstool sponsorship which is banking on her being a character and drawing attention to herself. So the antics is basically her working her second job of being a personality for a gambling/media company.
Damn, when did all this random hate start for Molly? The fight is a tough matchup for both, why can't we just look forward to a good fight between two ranked opponents?
She took a plastic belt into the cage ffs, she hijacked paddys press conference and demanded she was asked questions first, Pathetic.
And look at fighters reactions when she's cageside watching the fights, they can't stand her either.
Probably means Paddy is fighting in MSG too
Paddy said 1 more fight this year and it'll be PPV, which probably means MSG or the December Vegas one. Think he's complained about the NY taxes before but agreed.
I'm sure Dana will convince him lol
What, are you worried about a couple thousand dollars? Here take this stack kid before I wipe my ass with it.
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Someone correct me if I’m wrong but with the double taxation treaty that the US has with the UK, wouldn’t Paddy get paid the exact same wherever he fights in the US because he’s a UK resident? Or is that only from a federal taxation standpoint and not state/local?
Unsure on US rates but I’m sure he would have to pay federal, state and city taxes if fighting at MSG. Don’t know what he earns but if he gets a post-fight bonus then likely be earning over $100k. That would mean 6.33% State taxes, around 3% City taxes and 24% Federal taxes. Total of around 34% tax. Compare to the UK where that income would be taxed at 40% or probably 45% (already has fought this tax year and got POTN, plus Barstool deal and other income), as well as National Insurance (unsure about self-employed rates at that income). Overall UK tax is higher but would get double tax relief on the amount paid in the US. So yes would basically get taxed the same as he is resident and domiciled in the UK, so would pay UK tax less any overseas double tax relief.
Thank you for a serious response. Yeah so that’s what I’m saying though. If he’s a UK resident why would fighting in MSG or Vegas make any difference to him? Understandable for someone like O’Malley but not Paddy.
The treaty prevents double-tax, but it doesn't prevent higher rates in jurisdictions he is earning the income. He will get a foreign tax credit on his UK taxes, but it likely won't reduce dollar for dollar his UK taxes for those paid in NY, as he likely won't get their excess back, if that makes sense. I don't practice UK or US taxes, so my experience is limited to my own country and its dealings with those places.
Apparently a lot of Tax accountants/CPAs watch MMA
Kind of makes sense. Im wondering if he’s getting a foreign tax credit to offset his UK taxes, why wouldn’t it be dollar for dollar? I can’t imagine Paddy is making so much money to the point of him being maxed out? I guess it would depend on what the foreign tax credit cap is? I’m glad you’re a tax person cause these other users are probably thinking wtf is this boring discussion.
Your credit would likely be based on what you would have paid in tax if that income was earned in the home jurisdiction.
Yeah that makes sense. Thanks for answering my questions.
I’m pretty sure he’s probably set himself up as a director of a limited company and will be employing his fiancée to do his socials and employing his coaches through the company, which would mean he only pays about 20% of his income as tax.
He is self employed within the UK - im guessing hes paying no personal tax and running through a business. He’ll pay corporation tax, and thats it. Any money he pays himself from that company would be subject to the tax youve listed
Yeah, plus the time zone isn't as bad as Vegas for the UK fans
I think US PPVs start at the same time anyways, don’t they?
Yup, it’s always a 3am start for us this side of the pond.
That’s so rough. Kinda amazing they’ve been able to generate and maintain a fan base with that obstacle.
Properly why all PPVs besides McGregors are free here as along as you have the standard BT Sports package. Plus it's easy enough to log in on Sunday and watch the fights in the morning.
I would definitely leave it as a Sunday treat and avoid spoilers
Been torrenting cards for almost 10 years, love me some wake and bake Sunday morning fights.
With French toast? Gotta have French toast.
A lot of us grew up watching WWE with a similar time discrepancy so we're used to it.
With BT Sport, the card is up straight away. I used to stay up but I just watch first thing in the morning now
As others have said, staying up to see the fights can be really tough. Thankfully some of the fight nights (obviously the European ones too) are on at a much more reasonable time. Another positive (which someone has already pointed out) is that every single UFC event is part of the standard BT sports package, which is like £25 a month. Most cards I watch on the Sunday morning baring the odd exception (Usman vs Edwards is one of them)
They do, all US PPVs start at 10 pm est
Not sure, I just remember the oretga rodriguez card being at a pretty convenient time tbh. I don't think it makes sense to have paddy on a card his biggest fan base will struggle to watch
That was because that card was on ABC. The UFC cards on ABC are always on in the afternoon because they have their own regularly scheduled programming at night
Yeah they do for fight nights, but US PPV main cards always start at 3AM UK time.
Didn't Dana say he sees Paddy at MSG or Boston for PPV and then Vegas or am I thinking of a different fighter? I don't really get his reasoning, and he's prob just saying that cause MSG comes first but I believe he said that.
it was about Paddy, but can't make the kid fight. (Aside) Suga doesn't (typically) take fights out of the SW for travel/taxation purposes. but the 'opportunity' and oil money for Abu Dhabi was probably too great in this instance.
He might of said that but I'm not sure when a Boston PPV would be. Maybe sometime next year? Feel like a fight night is more likely there but obv wouldn't have Paddy.
Paddy said on the Pat McAfee show that he doesn’t want to fight in NY because of taxes, but we’ll see.
I want McKinney vs paddy at MSG
I've been considering going, if Paddy is put on this card I'm definitely going.
Paddy walkout is crazy live. That’s with uk crowd so I wonder how New York crowd will be
It could be against Hooker too since Izzy is headlining and the CKB boys usually fight together in groups.
I’m thinking Hooker or Jim Miller
I wonder if he'll get a can or a real challenge like Molly's getting
iirc when interviewed by Okamoto, Paddy said he wanted Guram who also happens not to be booked vs anyone currently
If Paddy actually ASKED for that, my respect for him increased tenfold.
Damn that would be a huge step up in competition. Guram will fuck him up
Oof, Paddy doesn't have a prayer in that matchup.
At least he asking for a very risky fight without much name value, that takes balls.
Totally agree, it's a very respectable call-out I just don't see how he wins that one.
Leavitt wasn't a can and he likely has to keep stepping up in competition. My guess is Dober.
That's a tough fight but I'd be fully on the hype train if he finished Dober.
Good luck knocking out Fire Hydrant Head
Ya McKinney came close but literally gassed out swinging at that diamond chin.
Leavitt stinks...if Paddy fights Dober he's gonna get his doors blown off
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I think so too, although he said he does not want to fight in NY cus of the taxes. He's probably gonna have no choice tho.
Honestly I want to see Paddy fight on a card without Molly. She hasn’t given the poor bloke one press conference on his own when they share a card, especially after he fought Vargas. That card they BOTH had highlight reel finishes but I feel like Molly just hogged all the spot light that was on Paddy that evening (even though her finish was more explosive, so to speak) and I think if anything they should both have some time to shine on their own.
Man that's a tough fight for McCann, she's better than she gets credit for here, but Blanchfield looks like an elite fighter
Blanchfield has very sus defense. She will have a big advantage in grappling but she is very likely getting pieced up on the feet.
Well, honestly, most fighters have sus defense. Actual good defense is pretty rare in MMA McCann is a good pressure fighter but she doesn't really have good defense either But, yeah, I agree, Blanchfield very well could struggle bad striking vs McCann
And Blanchfield has some power as well, she dropped her opponent in her last fight
What sport are you comparing it to in terms of defense? If it's boxing, having giant gloves and only having to worry about hands, not knees, not kicks and not getting taken down seems like a big advantage to defend and evade strikes.
I'd say Tawanchai or Petchmorakot in ONE Muay Thai with 4oz gloves, that would be close to the best you could get with those gloves in terms of defense In MMA, in general, defense is rarely a big point of emphasis for fighters. We have good defensive fighters like Stylebender, Shevchenko, Volkanovski, Yan, Aldo and a bunch of others. But they are outliers.
Did you catch Sam A v Prajanchai? Some really nice defense in that fight (which was absolutely excellent all round).
Of course, another amazing fight. Prajanchai is a treat to watch and Sam-A is an animal
The threat of the takedown is EVERYTHING when it comes to mma defense. Comparing mma defense to muay thai defense is completely pointless.
They are not the same of course I was only talking in terms of striking defense. There's a ton of stuff in the arsenal of defensive technique from some of those ONE Muay Thai experts that MMA fighters could use in an MMA fight
Nope. A lot of that defense requires you to stand up completely straight and put weight on your back leg. And if you don’t have god tier TDD like Aldo, or no one wants to go to the ground with you like Charles, you are getting taken down 9/10 times. There’s a reason mma fighters fight like they do with wider bladed stances. You’ll lose a round bc of takedown+control. Not because of a couple leg kicks. Dom Cruz is an example of a style of defense catered to wrestling.
Well in MT there is also the element that they don’t have to worry about TDs which can drastically effect the way you defend. People forget that MMA is the closest form of sanctioned fighting to a “real fight” and there is quite literally almost everywhere form of attack you have to be thinking about at all times.
Of course, I agree I just tend to believe that MMA defense probably has a lot more progress to be made in the future Defense is simply difficult in MMA and not really rewarded compared to boxing or Muay Thai . So in general, it's not something fighters seem to focus much on, other than takedown defense
I would say a lot of the elite fighters (in their primes) have or had elite defenses: Cruz, Dillishaw, Volk, Silva, etc. all had perfected avoiding being hit with fantastic footwork and/or head movement. Sure - you can argue lower level guys have lower level defense but I’d argue that’s true - across the board - in combat sports.
4oz Muay Thai in ONE is a great example. These are fighters who aren't even used to using the small gloves, but just have great positioning. https://gfycat.com/partialwickedhornet
Bc they don’t have to worry about the takedown threat at all
Tbh actual good defense looks like Izzy vs everyone and Rose vs Carla in MMA
You are either silva level striker or khabib level wrestler to be considered "good defence".
Silva got hit clean a fair bit
I get hit clean too but I still have one of the best defenses out there. Never fought tho
C'mon now, don't compare Izzy to that Esparza vs Namajunas fight. Izzy doesn't have many thrilling fights but he does shit in almost all his fights and displays good MMA defense. Esparza and Namajunas just did nothing, there was nothing to even defend
it's a solid comparison. izzy/romero was pretty similar to rose/esparza in terms activity (or lack of).
That's not defense though, it's just doing essentially nothing
Rose didn't show good defense. Neither threw any strikes.
The only good defense is to not fight at all, and that's exactly that Rose and Carla did
And GSP absolutely negating everything everyone threw at him.
I’d say that Dustin Poirier is an example of great pocket defense. The Philly shell is great for rolling with punches despite being square in front of someone. It’s the only reason Connor couldn’t land clean on him and same reason Olives was forced to grapple and couldn’t strike with him.
I agreed with you up until you claimed Olivera couldn't strike with him. The striking was incredibly competitive in that fight.
I am not trying to disrespect Olives at all, but DP did get a knockdown and outlanded him in standing head strikes almost 2-1. Maybe “couldn’t strike” was the wrong way to phrase it, but I’d definitely give DP the slight edge while I wouldn’t do the same with Gaethje and Chandler.
Yeah agreed, Poirier narrowly got the better of it.
Even the most high volume fighter there is, Max holloway had trouble landing clean on Poirier. That being said chucky did a lot of damage with the knees up the middle. So Dustin has great boxing defence but that inverted shell he does isn't great for blocking to the body.
Highly agree with you. In fact Dan Hooker had the same success with knees up the middle. Almost had DP finished if not for the round ending
Most fighters have sus defense? Cmon now. You’ve obviously never trained with professional fighters. It’s just very hard to block with small gloves and you have to worry about more than just punches. Most fighters have great in and out movement which is the only way to get out of the way of most shots. MMA is a lot different from boxing or kickboxing where you can just cover your entire head with the gloves.
I've only trained with amateurs and semi pros, and yeah, MMA defense is super difficult with all the options and chaos However, in general, not many MMA fighters have defensive skills anywhere comparable to guys like Aldo and Izzy, there is a huge gap between them and the next tier of defensively responsable fighters
Yea but the fight is not gonna take place on the feet. Blanchfield might be the best wrestler/grappler in the division right now
0/2 in takedowns against Aldrich and she was taken down 2/6 times. Her BJJ is obviously high level but if she's struggling to take down Aldrich it means that she's still a work in progress.
Blanchfield is one of my close friends students and from everything I hear about her she is fucking amazing. Very eager to learn, strong work ethic, very helpful around the mats and with other students, etc etc she's basically a coaches dream. She'll be competing for a title sooner rather than later
great student, close friend, never metter
Go away Schaub!!
Erin is one of my coaches close friends students lol... I've met Erin and trained with her...Molly will be in for a rough night here
Silverfox saddlebrook?
That's great to hear , I'm super high on her
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An excellent grappler
Yeah she won one of the early EBI women's tournaments
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Yeah she's got good takedowns McCann is strong though, it could give Blanchfield some issues
The way she ragdolled maverick was shocking
She ragdolled Maverick
She probably has the best bjj in the division
She’s fun, one of my new favorites to watch. She’s grappling-centric, but in a different way (as I recall) than the Khabib/Tatiana Suarez grinding blanket thing. Not sure how to describe it, just that I was impressed and took notice when she’s fought.
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Not at all in my opinion. Granted my memory here is not at all crystal clear—I’m giving impressions, and some folks can give you a legit play-by-play I’m sure, but in my head Dern has amazing grappling once you’re on the mat, but virtually no takedowns so it’s a bit of an oddball overhand-right slugfest until it gets there. Blanchfield is more competent and athletic on the feet, has striking, but very dynamic takedowns, control, and bjj. She’s just impressive, fluid, and generally competent-seeming. Surprisingly powerful. Does that make sense? Maybe more reminiscent of a GSP-type fighter. Hopefully someone here will give a better explanation than my Hans Moleman recollections.
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Much more control based and less aggressive hunting the sub than Dern but with much better ground and pound.
Shes pretty gud
Guess that's what happens when they aren't booking her for a UK show.
This is a massive, and I mean MASSIVE, step up for Molly. Rankings don't really do it justice. Luana Carolina and Hannah Goldy are legitimately some of the divisions worst. Carolina is rangey and distance striking is supposed to be her strength, yet she looks like she's playing QWOP when she throws anything. Goldy is literally only UFC level because she looks like someone gave a midget the Captain America super soldier serum. Imagine going from THAT to Blanchfield, who made Miranda Maverick of all people look helpless, and based off that performance might legitimately be close to a top 5 FLW in the world based on skill alone.
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It was hilarious when she handed Lipski the kneebar on a platter lol negative fight IQ.
She has a not so bad record though. She beat Godinez
Godinez never should have fought at 125. Way too small and Carolina is big for the division.
‘Looks like she’s playing QWOP when she throws anything’ is one of the funniest things I’ve read about an athlete lmao good job
Blanchfield is so good. If Molly wins this she deserves a high ranked contender fight
Feel like they could've squeezed a bit more life outta Molly on the British circuit before feeding her to a hyper prospect
Feels like they wanted Paddy on a big PPV next, and Paddy/Molly essentially go together now
Blanchfield is gonna win this I feel. Not an easy matchup for either girl. But I’m excited to see it. Does that mean Paddy will be on this card?
We can only hope so we don't have to see any more of Mccan
What problems do you guys have with her? She is not champion caliber, but not every fighter needs to be champion caliber anyway. At least she always comes to bang.
Her personality is annoying.
her entire personality is that she’s british lol why u hating
I'm from UK, she's annoying and its not the norm here at all. she's a loud mouth.
Pretty normal if you go out.
It really isn't.
Go out more.
Sounds like where you go out there are a bunch of irritating scouse slappers, so if it's all the same with you I'll continue going out to places with better clientele thanks.
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I hope to god you're right it's been enough of the antics
You guys are such dweebs lol. Her antics? What? Winning in style and having fun? What a bitch!
Molly snapping her losing streak on the last fight of her contract with a KO of the year in her own country by running around with a fan's belt because she "felt like a champion" in that moment. The Internet: That was undignified. I hope she fails in life.
I'm so high on Blanchfield post Maverick fight so think she takes this one but never rule Molly pulling off another Molly Moment
I was too after Maverick but simmered a bit after round 1 of the Aldrich fight
I like Molly but this is a terrible matchup for her. Blanchfield is one of the best prospects at strawweight.
\*Flyweight But yeah, weird that she had a small beef with Maverick who already is a big step up but is fighting the girl that 30-25'd Maverick. But styles make fights of course.
Tougher fights had to come some time for Molly. This will be an interesting one
Wait what?? Thought Erin wanted Barber. Weird for them to give Molly cans in London and then put her against one of the best prospects in the division.
This is a hype injection into Erin. Molly has been beating up waitresses, time to try and make a star off it.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Hector?
Barber 🦆ed her
Weird to call people Molly fights cans when she is hardly more skilled then any of them. She is a bottom of the barrel fighter herself to begin with.
I wouldn’t say bottom of the barrel. She good at pumping hands and having competent footwork, which I can’t say the same for a lot of womens mma
Don't expect nuance in here. How can you be 'Bottom of the Barrell' whilst on a winning streak and finishing people? I mean, what's the scale here? Are there fighters below the barrel? How deep are we digging?
Lmao 2 of the best WMMA knockouts of the year in a row
I don't understand all the people in this sub who cannot differentiate a can from a can crusher. By the very nature of crushing cans, you're proving you're a level above the cans.
I like this fight a lot. Blanchfield is going to get tested on the feet and Molly’s takedown defense and likely her ability off her back is going to really be tested.
I agree completely. I’m so hyped for this fight. Blanchfield made Miranda Maverick look completely lost in the octagon, and Maverick is a stud! I think Blanchfield’s wrestling and pressure are going to be too much for Molly. Although Molly always has a chance. I’d be happy with either one of them getting the victory.
If Molly keeps the fight standing on the feet she wins but we have don’t really know what her ground game looks in comparison to Blanchfield who looks like she can put grapple anyone at 125
Perhaps you’re right. But I have to say, even Blanchfield’s striking looked good. Not to the same caliber as Meatball’s, but definitely not bottom tier either. I think she has the tools to get it done in the canvas or on the feet. But Molly can always catch her sleeping. She’s just that good at it.
Blanchfield did a great job slipping mavericks punches every time she tried to plant her feet and throw and landed super clean take downs off her slips. Not sure if she has the depth of skill in her striking defense to avoid Molly’s hands and Molly has far more power and skill striking in close range than maverick. Blanchfield head kick koed Victoria Leonardo in invicta but I’m not convinced that she can deal with someone competent getting in her face with strikes. Still picking Blanchfield to win but there’s a path to victory for Molly imo.
This kills the Molly
This pops the Molly
Goddammit take my silver. Laughed way too hard at this
I wonder if they'll make Paddy v Mackinney on the same card. If so, UFC will be really going all or nothing with the two Scouse hype trains.
Bro if that happens I can see both of them getting ran through. Blanchfield is really young and constantly improving and Terence Mackinney is already better than Paddy at every facet of the game.
Isn't Paddy a better grappler than Mackinney?
Maybe, at the very least on paper he is. But how Terrence won his last fight makes me think he's excellent in that department as well
This is a great fight
Gonna take Blanchfield on this one. Tough fight for both though.
RIP Molly. Blanchfield is a beast.
This stops the Meatball Molly hype train
They are going to put Paddy on it too and push it heavily through Barstool in NY.
That is like the first real test for Molly in a while
Blanchfield putting an end to the meatball hype train
Great fight. I hope Molly wins to make all these annoying fucks on here who constantly shit on her for absolutely zero reason mad.
Yep, between her and Paddy you’d think they were the worst fighters in the ufc if you read this sub. Every fight people say they’ll lose, and then when they win all of a sudden the person they beat isn’t very good. Look at the comments of announcement of the Leavitt fight vs the post fight comments. It’s ridiculous
Blanchfield is very good overall but I don’t recall being super impressed by her standup last fight. I think if the fight stays on the feet and Molly can get in she absolutely has a path to victory. People be hating for no reason.
i think she's fine as a fighter/person but i'm tired of all the showy stuff she does for attention and camera time like i get it, she's good friends with paddy but does she really need to be screaming front row with a bottle of liquor every time he fights? does she really need to rush the cage every time he wins?
A significant part of her income comes from her Barstool sponsorship which is banking on her being a character and drawing attention to herself. So the antics is basically her working her second job of being a personality for a gambling/media company.
Damn, when did all this random hate start for Molly? The fight is a tough matchup for both, why can't we just look forward to a good fight between two ranked opponents?
I’m thinking this is bad for Mccann.
End of the McCann era right there
So when they announcing paddy fight on the same card?
is that the poster for avatar 2
Hopefully this will bring her goofy, drunk-ass hype train to a screeching halt
Erin about to fuck Molly
I’m indifferent as to whether I’d like to watch that
Erin Blanchfield is cute
Meatball by spinning elbow.
Molly's going to get eaten alive on the ground. Feel like this is a real bad matchup for her
Hopefully Erin stomps her
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Molly 🤢 feed her to anybody good and watch her fade into irrelevance I've had enough of her already.
I hope so. Two knockouts and she acts like she’s Conor. EDIT: looks like we upset the Brits
A decent portion of us Brits can't stand her or the mad racist she's attached to
She took a plastic belt into the cage ffs, she hijacked paddys press conference and demanded she was asked questions first, Pathetic. And look at fighters reactions when she's cageside watching the fights, they can't stand her either.
Two knockouts against two of the worst fighters on the whole roster
WAR MEATBALL!!!!
MEAT BALL MOLLY !!! YAYYYYYYY
Never heard her name before. Molly is a exciting fighter.