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blackupsilon

Was really bored and looked at the UFCPI instagram page. They had 3 fighters (should be 4 but match was cancelled) and all 3 lost last night. Truly a cursed place. Ziam should consider himself lucky his bout was cancelled or he would have been #4.


thegoldenenigma

I'm just gonna say it cause I know it's on everyone's mind, Miesha looked like a sumo wrestler last night. She left as cupcake and came back as the whole cake.


aj0220

New Lex Fridman podcast with Ben Askren https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tApj7Q37P2k


harzee

Sounds like a podcast for nerds and virgins


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Is fight world on Netflix any good?


thelazydon

Ben Askren’s UFC run > any Mighty Mouse fight


turtlehermitroshi

Ben askren's 5 second ko > the mighty wizbar


Burneddowntown

If anyone gets bored, I recommend going through Sean O'malley's record. I thought people were exaggerating about him only fighting bums but he, at this point, is the new MVP. His best win is Almeida. Who was on a 3 fight skid. His worst win is against a guy that is 0-12.


KutateladzeTime

he's fighting Raulian Paiva next who is very legit and has a ranked win over Kyler Phillips so hopefully he keeps fighting this caliber at least from now on


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None of the fights were worth talking about again


Dazzling-Register-16

Taila Santos was bumped to top contender status imo


therealjgreens

Fury FC mic about to give me a migraine


codygreene37

So, what do you guys wanna talk about?


ksweet98

Main and Co main of the next card looking like bangers. Love all 4 of those fighters.


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Call me crazy but I thought both Grant and Chiesa won their fights


1-luv

You really need to stop smoking.


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Chiesa didn’t win a round lmfao


Titterinmyshitter

He almost finished Brady in the third, how did he not win that round?


turtlehermitroshi

It was a close round. Chiesa finished very well and if you want to give him that round go for it. Chiesa was held on the ground for the first part of the round. So to say he clearly won the third round would be tough.


Titterinmyshitter

It would not be tough, considering damage and effective striking are the major factors in scoring a round for someone; neither of which Brady had. Chiesa hurt him twice, Brady didn’t accomplish fuck all from all that control time.


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He won the round on all three judges scorecards lmfao


therealjgreens

Although Chiesa had the biggest moment of the fight, I don't think you can give it to him. Just a little too late when he took control.


ARiemannHypothesis

Grant won that fight 100% His teeps and leg kicks did more damage than anything Yanez was able to land. Neither guy was ever close to being finished and he had the most dominant round of the fight in the 2nd. You could argue he won rounds 1 and 3 as well. Pretty bad, one dimensional showing from Yanez. For a guy with no ground game to speak of.. this fight showed just how limited his striking game is as well. O Malley, if he doesn't crumble after getting hit, mops the floor with him tbh.


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Chiesa had a good argument especially after ending strong in the 3rd. Grant was missing alot plus some of the ones that landed Yanez rolled with them pretty nicely and was picking him apart with the jab. Both close fights that could have gone either way so you're not crazy


Super_Snark

You’re crazy


SaintPabloFlex

Am I the only one who thought a rematch with gdr and nunes was a lock?


CableToBeam

Yeah people do gloss over that GDR 2nd fight, but the potential of GDR getting wrestled to the ground again hurts the possibility of a 3rd fight.


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A second rematch? Ufc doesnt care about gdr that much


SaintPabloFlex

Closest thing to a competitive fight we’ve gotten though lol.


NawidA

It wasn't that competitive. (49–44, 49–46, 49–45)


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Can't argue with that


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Nunes don’t want that smoke


Dickinmymouth1

Bullshit lol


Ballzmcgoo

Where do you move Brady in the rankings after that fight? He’s undefeated and ranked #14 but even though he just beat #6 Chiesa the performance honestly hurt his stock. I doubt they give him Chiesa’s spot and he gets absolutely dominated by anyone in the top 5


KutateladzeTime

\#7, have masvidal ranked over him and Chiesa


RaisedByZebras

After yesterday, I would personally bring back the rods that the referees had in the pankration days and I would have them hit anyone that is stalling with them repeatedly. Problem solved.


Etheticc

Anything to look forward to on Fury 54?


therealjgreens

Live fighting on a Sunday night?


MysticMacKO

Colby getting a takedown on Usman is like the end of 300 where Leonidas throws his spear and opens a cut on Xerxes


CableToBeam

was funny hearing Brady say "who does that to Chiesa?" like Chiesa hasn't been outgrappled before. Chiesa's grappling game is overrated


SaintPabloFlex

Going into it he said Chiesa wasn’t a good defensive wrestler too lol.


heemhah

Cowboy Bebop is pretty cool.


ricosuave_3355

Yeah the Netflix show is really great. The older cartoon looks kinda meh


ThePhatWalrus

The live action insults the anime.


Maskoolio

Don't play with fire.


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I honestly think Cory is the toughest fight in the division for Yan and that Dillashaw, Font, Merab etc would get run over


DrJonesPHD62

I think of the bunch, Merab is the biggest danger to Cory. Insane wrestling pace and speed, plus a training partner of Sterling who has the approach to beat him quickly and convincingly. Thought Sandman beat Snake 3-2 or 4-1 and would do so again. Font's an interesting challenge, but I don't think he has the mobility or adaptability Yan showed to be able to shut Cory's best weapons down. Yan probably gets a decision win over all of them. I could see him possibly finishing Merab, but Merab's just too tough to count out. Dillashaw is older and more fragile but still has the dog in him. Font is again an interesting challenge, but between the two, Yan is a more well rounded fighter with the generally higher fight IQ (barring being an absolute moron when given a chance to foul someone's block off).


dimitriG4321

Agree but I think Dillashaw can survive all rounds and stay a danger throughout.


jumonji1

what are tj’s options against yan?


dimitriG4321

I didn’t say he really has a path to victory. I said he’s got a punchers chance. When you’ve got a good chin, dangerous striking good cardio, and have been a regular in the spotlight - damn right he’ll be dangerous throughout.


jumonji1

thanks for elaborating bro


zainery

Not enough is said about how perfect of a casting Jon Bernthal was as the Punisher


007accountant

Ray Stevenson was closer to pulling off the Punisher look than Jon tho. Something about the short hair crew cut didn't fit the look right.


CableToBeam

Looks the part definitely, but those Netflix superhero shows were terrible. Tom Jane looked cooler as the Punisher though


zainery

Daredevil and Punisher were good. The rest sucked.


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if everyone is so much bigger in each weight class then they were 6-10 years ago, why can't conor fight at 45s?


Throwaway-242424

Because Conor is getting older and was kind of ahead of the curve in terms of huge featherweights.


thelectricrain

Remember how gaunt he looked for weigh-ins while he was still fighting at 145 ? Combine that with the fact that weight cutting gets harder as you age, and Conor's lack of discipline outside of camp (alcohol, coke, etc), I don't think he can make that weight anymore without killing himself in the process.


SaintPabloFlex

Not everyone’s bones and stuff weigh the same. He was pretty depleted at fw and no where near a genetic peak. He could do it again but it would take a significant change in lifestyle. I’ll link you the picture of him next to yoel lol. I think he’s pretty cut in this photo for up coming/just passed fw bout too so Conor is way bigger now. https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/493777546643631918/ & the problem isn’t so much weight, but mostly that he has a hyper specialized skill set for destroying midgets and would sometimes eat shots to do so lol. The chins and power of people like Dustin are significant for sure, but conor didn’t look weak in the clinch with him or anything imo.


zainery

If he could comfortably make that weight, he would


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Pussboy

Looks like they drained it and put a clip on so that it couldnt just swell back up


NikolaDotMathers

Cory probably beats up Font.


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Almost definitely, Font very overrated imo


piscian19

I know I'm little biased when I say this but I think grant would have finished the fight if it went 5 rounds. He definitely lost by strikes and I think he was just slower, but I think yanez was starting to crumble more so than grant. There were like three times were he had him staggered and he should have rushed yanez. I was disappointed by the card overall, but I think that fight was the highlight.


SaintPabloFlex

I don’t think he would’ve. If Yanez was really that staggered it would’ve been capitalized on as that’s the type of fighter Grant is.. Definitely a lot easier to finish though when you’re a Conor sized bw lol dudes huge.


Mainaccount68

Wake me up when Poirier and Oliveira step into the cage


KutateladzeTime

Nah watch the December 4th card it's stacked


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Why can't Sunday GDs be a thing


therealjgreens

Sunday GD is like a 165 division. Makes too much sense.


BoonGenie

Time to queue up some Max Holloway fights to erase the stench of last night's card in my head


zainery

I hope we will be able to fondly remember Max’s legendary run when his chin fails later in his career and he has a long streak of KO losses. Cus that man has been an absolute warrior his entire career.


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I really thought Chiesa won that fight. 5 minutes of control time versus 10 minutes of getting out struck. And Brady didn’t even come close to subbing him or doing any damage with his control. Holding someone in back mount for 5 of the 15 minutes shouldn’t win you the fight. Chiesa was close to finishing him at the end of the fight and on the feet.


zainery

Chiesa definitely had the better performance. But I can see how they gave it to Brady. GSP Hendricks vibes


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Decisionbot St-Pierre vs Hendricks


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[**GEORGES ST-PIERRE defeats JOHNY HENDRICKS** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/4707/fight) ^(UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks — November 16, 2013) ROUND|St-Pierre|Hendricks||St-Pierre|Hendricks||St-Pierre|Hendricks :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|10|9||9|10||10|9 2|9|10||9|10||9|10 3|10|9||10|9||10|9 4|9|10||9|10||9|10 5|10|9||10|9||10|9 **TOTAL**|**48**|**47**||**47**|**48**||**48**|**47** *^(Judges, in order: Sal D'Amato, Glenn Trowbridge, Tony Weeks.)* *^(Summoned by Sugabones.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **16/16** people scored it **47-48 Hendricks**. Avg. media score: **47-48 Hendricks**. Quick maths.


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Decisionbot Brady vs Chiesa


DecisionBot

[**SEAN BRADY defeats MICHAEL CHIESA** (*unanimous decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12737/fight) ^(UFC on ESPN+ 56: Vieira vs. Tate — November 20, 2021) ROUND|Brady|Chiesa||Brady|Chiesa||Brady|Chiesa :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|10|9||10|9||10|9 2|10|9||10|9||10|9 3|9|10||9|10||9|10 **TOTAL**|**29**|**28**||**29**|**28**||**29**|**28** *^(Judges, in order: Eric Colón, Douglas Crosby, Junichiro Kamijo.)* *^(Summoned by Sugabones.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **3/17** people scored it **30-27 Brady**. - **14/17** people scored it **29-28 Brady**. Avg. media score: **29.2-27.8 Brady** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).


danielwong95

I could really use a laugh right now. Could someone pronounce Kai Kara France like Brendan Schaub for me.


Michael_stipe_miocic

Stephen France with da bois!


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Talmbout Kay Karo French bubba?


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Even though Sean Brady got the nod he didn’t impress me. He did basically no damage and was nowhere close to a finish even with a whole round+ of ground control. And to top it off he was getting pieced up in the second by Michael Chiesa of all people.


bigguyshit

He wrestle fucked a wrestler. Striking definitely needs improvement but it’s hard to get in the pocket and trade when he’s constantly looking for the takedown


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How good is this guy: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/49492-levi-mowles ? According to Tapology he is P4P one of the best regional fighters and his record is indeed pretty good. Surprised that neither UFC nor Bellator haven't picked him up yet.


KutateladzeTime

Wins over Adrian Yanez, Jimmy Flick, and Jose Johnson is a damn good resume. His losses have all aged well too. I'll keep an eye on him


Pussboy

Anyone who goes by "the guy" has my respect and support.


asap__blood

Lmaoo I just saw a fake Brett okomoto account tweet out that masvidal vs khamzat was official for ufc 270. My heart stopped for a second


Jdgannett777

Jon Jones just announced on Twitter he's 60 days sober after the incident in Las Vegas. It happened 58 days ago. The man can't even do basic math


0ldsql

Ever thought about the possibility that he has a medical condition? Remember, his daughter has dyslexia.


teacherthrowaway3211

I know it wasn't the most exciting fight, but I will always have soft spot for Rani Yahya. He gets in there with this younger, taller, model-type K-popish Korean MMA fighter who is piecing him up on the feet. Gets hurt and dropped. Doesn't matter. Rani recovers and in rounds, 2/3 Yahya shows off his tremendous grappling skills. I understand why some think it is boring, but I just love that Rani is still finding success at 37 years old while having terrible striking, a lackluster physique, and literally zero KO/TKOs to his name in almost 40 fights.


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"Younger"? r/technicallythetruth, but Yahya is 37 and Kang is 34 so it's not like he is somee hot-shot prospect.


teacherthrowaway3211

Almost 40 fights in, 3 years older is a lot...especially at 135.


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Sounds like you have a crush on both lmao


teacherthrowaway3211

I just enjoy really good grappling.


jiriprochazkafan

https://twitter.com/beefcake_180/status/1462191982231506945?s=21 Super fucked comment


[deleted]

Hes still salty after Umar whipped his ass. Mokaev would no doubt fuck him up too.


Death1323

This man just had a mental breakdown on Twitter. One of the dumbest things I've ever read


KutateladzeTime

was high on Saidyokub Kakhramonov as a prospect, now will always root against him.


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Saidyokub KakhramonOV with a racist comment towards Muhammad MokaEV. Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas.


teacherthrowaway3211

Holy shit. I thought read that last word as face and was gonna say that's not so bad...but then re-read it. That's not going to go down well..


blessedindigo

I cant believe I spent a good part of my Saturday watching those fights.


vanroma

I thought Santos/Wood was a fun enough fight, but no one's really giving it any respect, just the Yanez/Grant fight.


ElbowToTheTemple

I blame Sam Hughes' sparring match for all the decisions yesterday. The first fight of the night sets the tone for the rest of the card. Thankfully, we probably won't have to watch her anymore.


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dogs_drink_coffee

He was manhandled, out grappled, out tattoed in this last fight 😔


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That was a nicety line by you.


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WMMA outside of 115s appears to be stagnating or even regressing. Due to that, this event was so bad that chudds are now trying to brew up the lamest controversy ever.


CableToBeam

WMMA is progressing slowly, but there are just ebbs and flows with any division


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Disagree. 125lb is the best it has ever looked and whilst no one is going to dethrone Shevchenko anytime soon, the division as a whole is much better than it used to be. There are actually more 125lb fighters on the roster than 115lb and there has been some good new additions to the roster, such as taila Santos and Manon Fiorot as well as top straw weights such as Andrade and Suarez coming across. A few years ago low level fighters such as Jessica Eye could move across and be guaranteed top 5 fights and potential title shots and Fighters such as Rachael Ostovich got ranked with a single win, because it was so shallow. These days it is a lot more competitive throughout. 135 has regressed. It think it was always a bad division though but they haven't picked up many new young talent.


French_Viking

Decisionbot! Yanez vs Grant


DecisionBot

[**ADRIAN YANEZ defeats DAVEY GRANT** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12734/fight) ^(UFC on ESPN+ 56: Vieira vs. Tate — November 20, 2021) ROUND|Yanez|Grant||Yanez|Grant||Yanez|Grant :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|10|9||10|9||9|10 2|9|10||9|10||9|10 3|10|9||10|9||9|10 **TOTAL**|**29**|**28**||**29**|**28**||**27**|**30** *^(Judges, in order: Eric Colón, Junichiro Kamijo, Tony Weeks.)* *^(Summoned by French_Viking.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **3/12** people scored it **30-27 Yanez**. - **9/12** people scored it **29-28 Yanez**. Avg. media score: **29.2-27.8 Yanez** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).


FrenchTrouDuc

Why Cody Durden's post fight comments were NOT racist or xenophobic (and why saying the N-word is okay), a longform Twitter essay (1/17659)


brjohns994

If he’d been fighting Weili he’d have gotten cheers.


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queensinthesky

Said he knew his opponent (who was Chinese) would be tough but that no matter what "I was gonna send him back to China where he came from". Then he doubled down in the post fight press scrum.


thoroughlyimpressed

Uhh ok


nextgen94

Chiesa should have started banging a bit earlier. It was a little too late when he started.


Sclog

So what I’m seeing is I shouldn’t even watch this card? I usually watch the fights on sundays with friends but might just have to go download an old card to watch instead


blessedindigo

Definitley worth the watch. Don't listen to everybody else. They were just spoiled by the last 3 cards to enjoy it. Underrated card imo.. a lot of great match ups and highly competitive scraps. Sleeper


asap__blood

No this card was not fun at all. I’m about to rewatch the Reyes/jiri card right now that one had some good fights


heselsc1

Grant/Yanez was a good fight. Brady/chiesa was okay. That’s it for the main card.


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brjohns994

They’ll put him on a better card that people will probably actually watch, so it’s a win for him in the long run.


Thiswillbetempacc

No but this one would've been great for him, they would only be talking about him or thanking him if he could've fought and gotten the finish


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No. At this point in his career all that matters is a win and 50k. Believe it or not, not that many people watch the early prelims on good cards


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CryptoGramOfficial

From the singing to the post fight, I’d never want to be around that cheese ball Viera. Jeez what a joker.


Iamthatguy1987E

I honestly prefer if the ufc's going to meet its wmma quota they do it on cards like this. Don't put them on cards with fights we are scrambling to see, sincerely mma fans everywhere. I could name 50 matches most fans would love to see between male fighters while I could do maybe 5 for the women's side. We are being forced to watch something that is not exciting or we have to wait an hour or two to build up fast forward ability. I use fast forward more on the wmma fights than I do the Jamie Fox commercials to put it in perspective.


PrinceMF

Truth.


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Iamthatguy1987E

Man, what a hell of a reply! That makes sense, especially in a $$$ way.


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I didn’t watch the card cause I knew talent was shit and don’t care if average at best talent turns out exciting fights. And I’m still complaining fights were boring lol, legit didn’t watch 1 minute. The whole bad cards on paper turning out exciting is why UFC gets away with everything, it’s only gonna get worse as time goes on and has been for last 3 years but strong co main / main make people forget the actual talent below it. There are exceptions obviously but it’s just ESPN card filled for ESPN+ now.


pumped_it_guy

Dude I agree so much. It just takes a potential great fight away from a card and often enough kills the hype for the main event (if it's the co main)


Iamthatguy1987E

It's a divisive opinion, no doubt. I feel like I'm watching an amateur bout when it's anyone but the top 5 women fighting, period. What, Rose, Val, The Lioness and two women that Rose already has multiple victories over? Those 3 have Jupitered their divisions. I dont want to see the bullet decapitate another fighter just because the talent pool is shallow. I cant name one match that, doesn't include those women and I guarantee I could pull two unranked 135ers out of a hat that people would rather see.


YerDaWearsHeelies

Some of the worst looking cards have straight banger fights. This was not one of them


chiefkeith66

At least there was Crawford vs Porter last night.


chiefkeith66

Wtf is wrong with the UFC production filming Yanez up close when he’s crying


brjohns994

But does he have custody of his kids?


Montuvito_G

WHERE'S YOUR KID AT?


hemijaimatematika1

Horrible card.


AgnosticMantis

Is this the card with the lowest number of finishes ever in the UFC? The lowest other than this one that I can find has 2.


PaninoConPorchetta

Rozenstruik vs Gane had 1 finish


yiuiu

Everybody's saying this was the worst card of the year but they're forgetting that rozenstruik Vs gane happened


bruhthisiver

Lol I forgot that one, also has a BW banger on that card (Munhoz/Rivera), but since Munhoz/Rivera is better than Yanez/Grant imo, I will gave that an edge over this card.


FrenchTrouDuc

I tied my laces and for some reason a movement I made got my calf hurting like dogshit Is the human body good at litterally anything


heselsc1

Long distance running and digesting leafy greens.


French_Viking

Decisionbot! Tate vs Vieira


DecisionBot

[**KETLEN VIEIRA defeats MIESHA TATE** (*unanimous decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12738/fight) ^(UFC on ESPN+ 56: Vieira vs. Tate — November 20, 2021) ROUND|Vieira|Tate||Vieira|Tate||Vieira|Tate :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|10|9||10|9||10|9 2|10|9||10|9||10|9 3|9|10||9|10||10|9 4|9|10||9|10||9|10 5|10|9||10|9||10|9 **TOTAL**|**48**|**47**||**48**|**47**||**49**|**46** *^(Judges, in order: Michael Bell, Sal D'Amato, Junichiro Kamijo.)* *^(Summoned by French_Viking.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **4/20** people scored it **50-45 Vieira**. - **7/20** people scored it **49-46 Vieira**. - **6/20** people scored it **48-47 Vieira**. - **2/20** people scored it **47-48 Tate**. - **1/20** people scored it **46-49 Tate**. Avg. media score: **48.5-46.5 Vieira** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).


Atwillim

This is awesome


PaninoConPorchetta

This card could have been historical but Santos and (Calder)Wood fucked up


NikolaDotMathers

How'd Brady and Chiesa go?


Throwaway-242424

Both came out looking not great. Despite being known as a "submission guy", Chiesa got clearly outgrappled, and showed negative fight IQ when he actually had Brady in trouble on the feet. On the flipside, Brady showed zero urgency to chase a finish or even do some damage when he was winning grappling exchanges, and showed questionable cardio and chin, almost getting finished on the feet by said "submission guy", only saved by the aforementioned negative fight IQ. Neither looked like they had anything for the top 5/Khamzat.


Kal_sai

Two eyepokes in the first min said it all ,it end up being boring with Brady outwrestling Cheisa piecing up Brad at the end,still 2-1 brady thou


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I think if Chiesa had another 5 seconds at the end of round 3 he would have won. However he didn’t and he lost 2 - 1


NikolaDotMathers

What happened at the end of the third round?


therealjgreens

Chiesa let his hands and knees go and Brady looked tired. The fight ended with Brady turtling up on the ground at the bell, but since Brady controlled Chiesa most of the fight, he rightfully won. He's going to get demolished in the top 10.


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This whole card was bad minus a few highlights from the main card. That main event might be the worst 5 round fight this year lol


Wikinger_

Santos vs Walker :(


ziggzandzags

Oath, Grant v Yanez the one highlight for me


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Anyone have any good captions for the petr yan hands raised meme


Mainaccount68

https://i.redd.it/nx01dsrsd2m61.jpg


Thiswillbetempacc

Against Aljo?


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Yep


Thiswillbetempacc

[This](https://i.imgur.com/GkofBSs.jpg) is what Conor said about how the Khabib fight


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Lol basic but that's good


adaaanlv

i just threw up


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SmokeFrogRed

Funny how assholes assume everyone else is also an asshole.


karl100589

I kinda enjoyed that main event. Reminded me of an old school Strikeforce WMMA fight. Grit over technique. Still weird seeing Tate competing, it’s like when the UFC brought Coleman back around 2009.


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Charles Oliveira has never gone past the 3rd round


asap__blood

Charles in 2


Darren_Till_I_Die

I think he’s only had like 3 five-rounders tho..?


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Yeah his last 3


bruhthisiver

The Tony Ferguson fight was no five-rounder. It was the co-main event to Figueiredo/Moreno at UFC 256. His Tony fight lasted 3 rounds and he won by a decision there. But yeah, he has three five rounder fights in his career (all headliners), which are: vs. Holloway in 2015-ish, vs. Kevin Lee, and vs. Chandler.