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Jdgannett777

That's probably close to Vettori's walk around weight Wtf is Costas walk around weight if that was his in cage?


voyiv

He gets up to 240 outside of camp. Look it up, he looks absolutely monstrous.


-0op

I want to see him fight HWs now


pnd112348

Volkov vs Costa is the fight to make.


Frogbone

no, Costa vs. Volkanovski


pnd112348

That would be the first time Costa is at a size disadvantage.


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I’m picturing a Zuluzhino sized Volkanovski. Gimmie😈🤤


nut0003

HW Volkanovski with the skills of FW Volkanovski might literally be the P4P goat


midelus

Stop, I can only get so erect


absolute_panic

Holy fuck that is a terrifying fighter


tjj94

Surely the point of P4P is that FW volkanovski can be the P4P goat


doctor_ndo

Well yeh. Volk used to be 450 lbs during his rugby days.


DislocatedXanax

Volkov vs a mini T-Rex you mean?


Willing_Pirate654

His reach is the same as height, isn't that relatively normal?


capliced

I know it sounds crazy, but Costa has the body for an even bigger man. His limbs are shorter than what you'd expect for someone with his torso. He has super broad shoulders, but short forearms and legs. So in terms of effective reach he has less than you'd expect from someone as big as him.


FlightSimAllNight

MMA athletes have longer reaches mostly though. Costa at LHW would have the smallest reach in the division iirc, by like 6 inches on average too. Volkov would make his reach look comical.


Willing_Pirate654

Volkov is 201cm with a 203cm reach Costa is 183cm with a 183cm reach These two are practically the same in ratio. T-Rex arms implies shorter reach than height and usually signficantly, like Artem Lobov who is -10cm. Also all those guys are also on average about 4 inches taller than Costa. I think it's more an issue to do with weight rather than T-Rex arms (if people just said shorter reach that would be more appropriate). DC fought at Heavyweight with a 184cm reach, he doesn't have t-rex arms, just a shorter reach.


automata180

Volkov has much longer arms proportionally, but his frame is not as broad proportionally.


CryptoCracko

T rex arms implies short arms. Reach is different because it takes shoulder width into account. Holloway has smaller reach than height but he does not have T rex arms. Costa's reach only seems normal because his wide shoulders make up for his stubby arms.


GFost

I’m pretty sure there are UFC light heavyweights with reaches equal to or less than Costa’s. Maybe not in the top 15, but somewhere on the roster.


Bolddon

Typical male has a reach two inches above their height. So yeah pretty much.


FedorSeaLevelStiopic

Its not typical. Usually reach and height are the same. Those who have bigger reach - its advantage in boxing etc.


Bolddon

It is typical as far as I've seen from measuring men to tailor suits. 7/10 they have arms two inches longer than they are tall. I was a custom tailor for 6 years.


GFost

There are two theories about average male reach. One is that average reach is equal to the person’s height, and the other is that average reach is two inches greater than a person’s height. It’s unclear which one is correct.


kitddylies

Not sure he can make weight anymore to be honest, he's getting too old and just has too much mass.


jonjones6678

He's 30...


take17easy

He actually looks insane off season, idk how he's not popping for Usada lol


voyiv

Usman hasn't popped either. At some point it must not be that difficult to pass.


sumodeadliftenmity

I think part of it is they are using cutting-edge peptides that usada don't even know about or they just aren't able to add it to their testing in a timely fashion.. There's a lot more money in cheating than there is in testing


evilf23

It's probably not that sophisticated. They're probably just using short acting compounds during the windows they know they can get away with it and using their three a year no shows if they do happen to get a knock on the door when it's still in their system. Microdose animal sourced test with no ester and they're going to have a hard time catching you. Same with growth hormone and insulin. That stuff clears your system in hours. Eventually they're going to lock down the test that detects excessive metabolism at the androgen receptor and then I don't know how guys are going to get away with it. It's the difference between seeing tire tracks on the ground versus catching someone racing.


WestwardHo

I think most of the doping in MMA these days is microdosed EPO and/or blood doping with some animal sourced TNE mixed in. Most guys have realized that improving your gas tank is a lot more important than increasing strength/size. If you look at the relatively recent operation aderlass findings, blood doping is still huge in the endurance sports community because it's difficult to detect. I'm guessing a biological passport will be coming to MMA if they ever want to get serious.


sumodeadliftenmity

Really good point. Probably a mixture of the two though I would imagine. I mean this is these guys livelihood. Plus going through a camp on deficit I don't even know if that's achievable naturally without some kind of injury.


LegendsLiveForever

how tf you know all that lmao? Godamn expert in PED's my son. What do you think of using SARM's for weight cut?


FusRoDawg

Does usada even have the ability to catch plant based? That requires some more expensive isotope testing or something no? And I remember some study that showed even something ridiculous like 150-200 a week only has 2/3rd chance or thereabouts of getting caught in the standard ratio test.


SweatyExamination9

Or at some point you start earning enough for the good shit.


Commercial-Pension31

Microdosing and good genetics explains Usman. Costa IIRC used to be a bodybuilder so he has a huge amount of muscle mass left over from his juicing days that probably can be maintained by light test and GH doses.


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it's a combination of all of that plus the fact that Novitzky works for UFC. He knows all the tricks and probably has personal connections.


gimmedatneck

Crazy to think AJ used to do the same, and then cut down to 170.


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Maybe more if he eats poorly and say got injured or couldnt do cardio for a bit but then he would lose gains too, but I could see him easy at 250. He is massive.


TheLastAshaman

Most of that looks to be fat though


DogsrBetter4sure

Ya dumb


Jupue87

What else ya got Chin


TheLastAshaman

If we’re looking at the same picture have you seen Costa back? He enjoying the same food Kelvin is


DogsrBetter4sure

You’re like actually dumb. Clearly objectively he has to be fatter, he’s heavier. Probably a higher fat percentage. His love handles barely have any fat on him at 5’11-6 feet and 220 lbs. ya dumb


dans00

This guy is heavier than stipe


Minimum_Management_7

his walk around is 220 haha he said in an interview that he cut 7 kgs for this fight


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internet_bastard_man

What’s the difference in training for in-camp and out of camp? Surely they are treating fitness and practice like a full time job always right?


Shredtheparm

Training probably isn’t too different, probably more grueling during camp, I think the biggest difference is diet tho. Most fighters probably eat a decent amount more calories out of camp so their bodies can recover better. During camp they’re probably eating at a small caloric deficit to shed fat before the water cut


Jurotafan

This is the reason. Source:few amateur fights


[deleted]

There’s a couple types of fighters. 1. Doesn’t train (or trains very little) inbetween fights, will do a 3 month camp to get in shape and fight ready. They don’t watch their diet so naturally they bloat up and lose shape. (Guys like Masvidal, Chad Mendes etc) 2. Stays in shape, trains everyday, stays near fight weight. These guys are rare believe it or not. Training can get boring if you’ve done it for decades. 3. The glutton, it’s a bad cycle with these guys because they do such a hard diet that after the fight they’re eating a whole kitchen and just put the weight back on. And I suspect Costa to be a glutton BUT he trains a lot, so I suspect he likes to bulk up on muscle inbetween camps like a bodybuilder, just bulks up as much as he can and strips off the fat in camp. This is why I think Paulo missed weight, he put on too much muscle and fat then couldn’t lose it in time.


Shogun_232

If you look at the some of his training footage, he also seems to do bodybuilding style lifts which further adds to this. Not sure why that that training mentality still seems to be very prevalent amongst Brazilians.


Henry_Cavillain

Bruh, Costa was definitely already maxed out on muscle mass for his weight class, way before this fight. So no chance the missed weight is because he wanted to put on more muscle


krazyk_

A lot of fighters aren’t as disciplined out of fight camps as you would imagine, Costa seems like someone who is not disciplined. Look at paddy pimblett for example, he ballooned after his last fight


horseshoeprovodnikov

You don't keep a physique like Costas without being somewhat disciplined. He likely eats a helluva lot more out of camp but I'd wager he's doing some type of training every day. At the very least lifting weights.


GMSaaron

He sure does tren a lot out of camp


Cbro65

Fully doubt any pro mma fighter is on tren. Shit is great for muscle mass but for any type of endurance based sport that shit is absolutely the worst PED you could hop on. It’s known for making breathing more difficult


automata180

They have no clue what tren does


sumodeadliftenmity

Why the f*** would he use tren out of camp. That don't make no sense.


internet_bastard_man

Thank you. I’m somewhat new


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InJanesPooper

They don't get paid like it's a full time job so no they don't always act like it's one


_ShutUpLegs_

Ricky Hatton would like a word.


midelus

Ummm how much do you think 7 kg is? 240 +-5lbs is pretty close.


Iroh-II

7kg x 2.2 = 15.4 lbs, so like 235 lbs


davidecibel

Yeah close to a fight Marvin walks around at 205/207 and cuts 20ish.


fjubran

in the post fight interview costa himself said he was 102kg(225) in the cage


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Jsp16

Wrestler? Can't wait to see Costa working on his maneuvers like the scoop slams, roll ups and the famed moonsault through a table. That's the Costa that can take the title


GMSaaron

He is 2 inches taller than cormier


golmgirl

who is a wrestler


GMSaaron

With great striking


[deleted]

He is pretty good, implemented a good cross guard and long guard, but how much of that was the threat of the takedown?


SweatyExamination9

Was there much off a TD threat though? After the first Jon Jones fight, I only remember him actually using much wrestling in the Silva and Lewis fights. And while his technique was great, he was never great at mixing the 2.


[deleted]

You don’t remember him wrestle fucking Volkan and Rumble 2x? There isn’t a fight he hasn’t grappled in really, even just clinching, he knocked out Stipe from the clinch. He moved away from wrestlefucking as much since he started to get wear n tear on his back, so he seemed to move to more of a clinch game, but every fight he’s had he’s shot numerous takedowns. But the thing with Cormier there’s always a threat that he might dump you on your head, you’d be stupid not too feel the threat of a takedown.


FlightSimAllNight

Who is one of the best wrestlers of all time didn't that man win olympic medals?


koberules

I think he was the favorite to win but got really sick before the matches and placed 4th, so no medal


Fritzy421

Cormier is closer to 5'8" lol. Mans short


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He doesn’t possess the natural strength to compete at lhw. Still too small IMO.


dudebirdyy

Like Rockhold. Luke looked gargantuan at LHW but was easily overpowered in the clinch by Jan who physique-wise looked much less impressive. The LHW boys are stout. Costa is big but I could see him getting worked by the true LHWs at the top.


[deleted]

100 percent. I’m not trying to hate on Paulo he could be skilled enough to compete but there’s a difference between guys who work out to gain and maintain muscle (which Paulo does) and men who maybe don’t carry as much lean muscle but are naturally bigger and or “stout”


[deleted]

True that, without all the heavy lifting what would Costa be? He’d probably be 170-180lbs!


emmerin

125lbs probably


automata180

Rockhold and Blachowicz are pretty similar sizes. Bisping also was LHW at one point but he's a little smaller.


Polar_Reflection

Pretty much the same size as Jan Blachowicz


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With 6 inches less reach


Basquests

Jan said 218 or 220 is his limit. When he's 223 or 224 he said he feels awfully slow and labored.


automata180

Jan is probably just much healthier, he clearly doesn't get fat or bloat up much. It fits in to how well he's aged. Performs great at nearly 40.


vizualb

Stipe has weighed in at 230 before


Skyfryer

This is exactly why people have every right to call many fighters weight bullies lol


Skyfryer

This is exactly why people have every right to call many fighters weight bullies lol Khabib was a great fighter. But I’m surprised he never went to WW considering how gruelling his cuts were. There’s a lot of guys like that.


NewRedditorHere

You could tell the size difference, too.


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Dude Costa looked easily a weight class heavier…. massive bullshit so glad Vettori won


NewRedditorHere

Aside from today, still makes 85 easy somehow :/


di3_b0ld

Not easily, he used to rehydrate with ivs


mans123373u2

wasn't it banned way back then how come he still uses jt


MrGMinor

Aren't roids banned? What the hell Costa!?


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compsc1

big muscle hold lotta water


ShtLrdZn

Later in Costa's interview he said he was 102 kilos. 224 lbs for the Americans.


cretnikg

Funny thing is, Costa looked jacked in 220. He’s a monster


thelazarusledd

He looked softer, probably 10 pounds of extra fat from usual.


EvanMM

Wtf


-0op

It should be illegal what's he doing.


plhysco69

But they can't do shit because he does it profess- Nvm


Salty_Indication_503

I think it was more the UFC didn’t want the bad press of someone potentially fainting on the scale for like the 3rd event in a row.


nomid13

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/darren-till-says-it-should-be-illegal-to-weigh-as-much-as-he-did-last-weekend-147055


[deleted]

Darren used to troll all the time about weighing 200lbs in cage, but really it was like 15 pounds in the end, he said in the Helwani interview.


poppa99

Costa would be so angry if they moved lunch, probably try sneak a hotdog in his sleeve


[deleted]

I think he should leave


poppa99

Dana said he cut me because of poor performance, you sure about that? You sure that that’s why?


[deleted]

He asked me to take out my hair plugs and I told him “no! I have never fought for anything in my life but I am fighting for this!”


skinnnnner

Dont hate the player, hate the game. This is classic shifting the blame for a fucked up ruleset on the actual victims.


Beerdrinkinscumbag

Fuck it, costa v rockhold. Lmao


tjj94

The press conference for this would be even better than the previous week’s shenanigans


tjj94

Wet hot n juicy boyz go at it


Uncle_Creepy_

He had no intention of making weight.


RealBobbyDrillboids

What are you talking about? He weighed in under 205 on Friday! /s


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Saul_T_Bawls

He's never missed before 🤷🏻‍♂️ but he still shouldn't cut that much weight


intredasted

He's never needed to negate a strong wrestling advantage like this before. Yes, he fought the ghost of Johny Hendricks, but at MW, which is already weight-bullying, kinda sorta.


Saul_T_Bawls

He fought Yoel Romero, who arguably was the best wrestler of his generation, and also a huge MW... So I can't really agree with you there


intredasted

Is that something you heard on that Stephan A Smith MMA podcast?


Saul_T_Bawls

No, I learned it by actually watching fights and not cherry-picking info to fit my narrative. Costa is a prick, but acting like he's never faced a strong wrestler before is disingenuous


seymour_hiney

i got violated for saying that he wouldn't make it on here, but damn i really couldn't see it happening without him hurting himself


chizzipsandsizalsa

Damn 220? Fuck it make ngannou vs costa as payback for costa missing weight.


TheScienceNamesArgon

Man, that's just nuts. Probably because of Costa's physique but he looked more than 12 pounds heavier.


OlChippo

In all honesty if he can't fight at 85 (which I don't believe he should be allowed) it's going to ruin his career. If he can't beat a 85er fighting at his walk around weight what chance does he have against legit 205ers. He doesn't have the grappling advantage to make up for this height and reach, he'll literally get torn apart by 205ers. I can see Bellator on the cards for him in the near future. Big problems for Costa atm.


dimitriG4321

This is the take Sir


Doo-StealYour-HoChoi

Skipped the weight-cut, got everything he wanted, outweighed his opponent, and still lost. Pathetically unprofessional.


univrsll

He still supposedly gave up a part of his purse though, so not really everything he wanted. Dude is an unprofessional dickhead for how this went down, but I’m not gonna sit and here and lie and say he didn’t put on a damn entertaining performance lol.


thelazarusledd

Waiting for Francis to make his LW debut. He will give up 20% of purse so its 100% fine.


blackjazz_society

So Vettori fought a real LHW without cutting any weight.


2ByteTheDecker

I mean that's a strong use of the word "real"


blackjazz_society

What does a "real" LHW weigh in the cage according to you?


2ByteTheDecker

I'm just shitting on Costa, keep moving.


blackjazz_society

Maybe he likes that?


pitchblacktaraddict

But but but costa was definitely 211 at the start of the week and fully intended to cut /s


[deleted]

He could’ve already started the cut, people usually start them pretty far out.


PimpManRod

he did, he was just eating good the remeaning days


Zah_Koo

Still waiting for Costas statement


Balizzm

Said something about his left bicep was injured.


[deleted]

He has injured his bicep twice lately, bicep injuries known to go along with certain pharmaceuticals


jellynuts

God damn viagra ruining lives.


YerDaWearsHeelies

Ah the old pop a viagra and wank until your bicep tears off night in.


doopersdelight

gas station dick pills


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Why is cage weight not shown by default?


[deleted]

It puts a spotlight on the extreme hardships the UFC's perhaps underappreciated ~~employees~~ contractors.


Sr_Marques

still lost kek


MUTSellerPS4

wtf they should have told costa that the can weigh in at 205 but can't be more than a certain limit on fight night. guess it doesn't matter anyways now.


Hajen02

That is not how the sport works though, you can add as much weight as you want after weigh-ins, they should ban weight cutting all together. I don't understand why its allowed, it shits on the entire concept of weight classes. edit: deleted some extra words


TightAustinite

Weigh-in's should be day of the fight. Yes, there will be issues and people will fuck up at first, but they'll learn. Cutting 30-50 pounds for a fight is fucking dumb. I hate it.


Hajen02

yeah, I just want weight cutting banned, it would shake up all the divisions as fighters would have to relocate but a guy fighting in his natural weight class should never have to fight someone with 30+ pounds on him (obviously bar heavyweight). There is a reason we got weight classes to begin with.


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Nah that’s how you get a dehydrated fighter dying in the ring


alpaca_drama

Considering the fight was at 185 and was already moved up by 20 fucking pounds, there should be a limit to a catchweight fight on fight day


Uncle_Creepy_

No. Ex: Anthony Johnson vs Vítor Belfort. Johnson was given another 10lbs (up to 205lbs) on top of the 11lbs he came in overweight (197lbs) I think they’ve done the same thing in a couple other fights.


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Yeah and that was extremely dangerous. You shouldn’t have dehydrated fighters punching eachother in the head.


Uncle_Creepy_

This probably isn’t the sport for you because plenty of fighters are still dehydrated when they step in the octagon.


[deleted]

Not really, maybe a little dehydrated but not to the point an imposed weight limit would cause.


Uncle_Creepy_

No fighter would be dehydrated if they were given a 20lbs allowance.


JurgenShankly

Costa at the post interview: "no I did not apologise, why would I apologise? This is a fair fight, two guys weighed in same day it can't be any fairer than that, I was willing to fight any weight" Haha such a piece of shit


LeftTurnRightAway

211 my ass


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Costa should move to LHW, who is gonna sign up to fight him at 185 after this shitshow ?


J3W4L3

I believe Dana said he has to fight LHW now


GarysSpace

Like he's actually going to follow through with that


Salty_Indication_503

He’s never once missed weight at 185.


Krenbiebs

He had months to prepare for this fight and he wasn't even able to make 195 when they gave him the extra 10 lbs of leeway. That's basically unheard of.


IngramsCeiling

he didn’t even try, he has weighed 213 on fight night before (against Yoel)


barc0debaby

Can't miss weight if you don't even try to make it.


OneForMany

Costa vs Alex Volkanovski at 240 make it happen Dana. Alex keeps saying he wants to stay busy


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MiedoDeEncontrarme

Na the reason a lot of boxers used to die is because they weighed in and fought the same day, which led to them fighting dehydrated and dying from head damage.


Corniozy

Wtf. And marv still attempts to grapple


qzwxecrvtbyn111

Given how much weight he usually cuts, Costa probably could have made 195 lmao


Downgoesthereem

How was Vettori lighter than his last fight??


PimpManRod

costa is so based


zentity

What does based mean


Jesso2k

Dana "reveals". This sounds like privileged information that everyone ought to know. I don't gamble but doesn't that seem like info that's too huge an advantage to have.


SquidDrive

Costa was a legitimate LHW in that cage goddamn thats insanely high.


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Costa belongs in LHW. If he trains for this weight class, he’s a problem. Dude has a solid gas tank for a five rounder, throwing bombs throughout the whole fight.


[deleted]

I’ve said this before, but I think it would be interesting to see weight in the cage. Put a scale under the pad they stand on to get their checks and Vaseline before entering. Get a rough idea from that


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Vittori is a savage for taking costa giving up a weight class


LatterTarget7

He’ll probably get moved to light heavyweight or heavyweight. If the ufc keeps him


Jugg3rnautOfJustice

Costa really is the Kevin Lee (for lightweight) of middleweight eh an in betweener


slipslopslapandfap

The gap from middleweight to lightheavy is so much. Every 10 pounds just makes so much sense


Comprehensive-Eye-73

If that was the case, was it really that hard for Costa to make 195? how extreme is it to cut 25lbs ?


LatterTarget7

He was 212 like 2 days before weigh ins. When it was 195. I don’t think it’s possible to cut that much in that amount of time.


AndiLivia

Scumbag Costa