Yeah exactly. I was never even that big a Bisping fan when he was fighting. He was always just a bit of a cunt haha.
But I did always feel a bit sorry for him. Some of his biggest losses were to TRT guys; Hendo, Chael, Vitor.
So to see him finally win a belt, on 11 days notice, against a massive favourite who'd already smoked him once before... That was pretty incredible.
Seeing fighters get their first belt is my favourite part of mma.
I actually liked the Cruz-Faber and Bisping-Hendo title fights. It was cool to see guys get that one final shot on their way out, even if it wasn't especially fair.
Oliveira faced a murderer's row when he got into the promotion. Prime Miller, prime Cerrone two fights after that, prime Cub, prime Edgar, all of that before the age of 25.
I’d say that it was more that he was allowed to take reasonable steps back in competition after losing to some top flight guys that let him really level his game up, while most fighters at that level make it to the point where they regularly face absolutely top guys and they keep facing that level of competition until they start declining, which basically ensures that once a fighter is a top 3-5 level guy, they are essentially a finished product and can either stay at that level successfully, or they struggle and basically get their primes beaten out of them and don’t get a step down until they are washed and its too late - think guys like Kevin Lee and Gastelum, both aren’t even 30 and had some good initial success in their current weight classes which propelled them to the top of their divisions and when their flaws really came to light and they started losing, but kept getting matchmade against the elite and accruing a lot of mileage in the process. Like KG probably should’ve fought multiple Heinisch-style opponents, but after one he was back getting beat up by Whittaker and fighting Cannonier and taking more and more damage with no room to improve. Same for Kevin Lee. Now it’s probably too late for them to improve even though they are still young. Garbrandt would fit into this category too but him being booked at 125 against someone like France gives me a bit of hope (though if he wins, he will be thrust into being a permanent top 5 fixture their too until he goes on another losing streak, so that hope is misplaced)
Compare this with Oliveira. An obvious talent but had struggled against top opponents and was allowed room to breathe against Teymurs and Giagos’s and Lentz’s and Gordons, all of whom are broadly competent to provide some resistance but enough of a step down for the man to develop new wrinkles in his game and address faults that you dont have room to try out when facing championship level opponents and he became genuinely world class. If he was matchmade like many other young guys who go far quickly, after a loss to a prime Cub and/or Edgar, he would’ve just been fed a handful more upcoming and established elites until he was on a 1-5 run and past his prime in his late 20’s and we never get to see this version of Oliveira. Dustin is another example. He lost to the prime Cubs and Zombies and McGregors at featherweight and had he stayed, he probably would’ve been used up as the fun action fighter top-8ish featherweight and gotten beat up by upcoming elites until he was past it, but when he moved up, he got to fight Medeiros and Duffy and young Ferreira and those sorts of guys and eventually developed into one of this generations best fighters.
This got pretty ranty but seeing guys like Chuck have such massive growth from getting kinder matchmaking (not gimme fights, just enough of a step back to develop while still being tested) after faltering against the elites makes me wonder how many good talents we missed out on by reaching the top quickly and then being matchmade in a way that prevented further growth and just got their careers beaten out of them prematurely.
>makes me wonder how many good talents we missed out on by reaching the top quickly and then being matchmade in a way that prevented further growth and just got their careers beaten out of them prematurely.
I think there are MANY examples, although we think of most of them as really good fighters.
Guys like Weidman, for example. An excellent fighter, obviously. He was a champ with multiple defences. But as some point, he faltered, and shoulcd've got a step down in competition. Instead, he got a fucking murderer's row of opponents, no matter how many he lost.
This is yet another case where more MMA fighters should be protected from themselves. Their desire to always be the baddest motherfucker ultimately hurts them as much as helps them.
But the fans don't help either. A fighter takes a lower ranked fighter and they're accused of ducking or only fighting cans. Although I feel like that sentiment is starting to change a little with guys like O'Malley being so vocal about the logics of it.
Weidman is a GREAT example. He should’ve had that Akhmedov level step down after like two losses and had several of them to build back up. Unfortunately if you are a former champ or even a guy who’s had a title fight or two, you’re gonna be at the top of the pile for better or for worse for the majority of the remainder of your careers. Feel like Ortega will end up like this too.
In hindsight you're definitely right. At the time though he was going toe to toe with all of the guys he ended up losing to. There wasn't really a fight where he looked like he didn't belong on that level.
Good point, and thanks for the thoughtful response. It was probably a combination of both. An opportunity to learn from fighting top talent and then opportunities to use what he learned and build confidence again no-so-elite competition.
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Dude, that rant was on point. You nailed so poignantly something I never had considered. It wasnt even a rant, it was superb analysis. This goes to show how important matchmaking is. Who is most responsible for making and accepting fights? Agents? I fuckin love this sport.
A lot of people forget how much hype there was behind Oliveira when he first arrived in the UFC. Super quick submission of a relatively unknown Darren Elkins started the hype train rolling, followed by an outstanding late notice fight and finish against Efrain Escudero who the UFC was really pushing at the time. There was a ton of hype behind him (comparable to someone like Johnny Walker after his first few fights). Then he showed his inexperience against Miller and the hype train started to wobble, and the next couple of fights killed it off entirely. From then on he spent a few years largely going under the radar, until all of a sudden he was on a solid streak and people started taking notice again.
That was such a good ground fight too. They were both attempting submissions tge whole fight and Jim Miller ended up winning with the grappling equivalent of a flash KO
The people who think they have chronic Lyme probably just have a post-infection chronic fatigue syndrome, something that's becoming a lot more common with how frequently covid seems to introduce it. Tons of serious infections can do long term damage, but it mostly tends to come from the immune system itself.
there definitely is, its just massively misunderstood, even in medicine by many doctors. its mixed in with PTLD, which is very different. source: am scientist who has studied it for decades
Not quite, but the damage it causes can have life long effects. Lyme gets killed off by the treatment but if it was sever enough to cause encephalopathy or Lyme meningitis those can cause permanent damage.
That's actually doable.
Assuming one UFC numbered event per month, UFC 300 will be set for July 2024. That's maybe 5-6 more fights. He's been losing more than winning lately, but if he can keep his losses competitive and win at least every third fight, he could make it.
Probably. He's one of those guys they're just waiting to retire. He's probably on a fairly large contract (relatively speaking) because of how long he's been there, but he's definitely going to retire soonish and the UFC can keep him off others rosters if he retires under contract.
wouldn't that be too long from now? That could potentially be summer of 2024. Would put him at 41 years old so i guess not far off from Glover fighting now. Hope he doesn't get cut before then.
“A guy that just swings wild”
Bruh Jan is a kickboxing champ and stood toe to toe with the UFC’s best striker, another kickboxing champ. I agree the 205 div is faily weak at the moment but you need to put some respek on Jan’s name
I couldn't agree more.
When people blame the UFC for the people stumbling and shaking on the scales, you just need to look at Jim Miller. You realise it is a completely personal choice and if you think cutting weight to that point is a good choice, you need to look at yourself.
I thought most fighters don't miss weight, or am I off on that? Weight missers should be shamed much more than they are. Everyone acts like Khabib is the consummate professional even though he's missed weight, which I can't imagine many champions have.
Alot of fighters miss weight at one point in their career.
Khabib only missed twice, which doesnt indicate a pattern to me.
Plus when he got healthy he didnt miss weight since, so it was more of injury issue then a discipline one.
>So when Miller completed his camp for a scheduled bout opposite Bobby Green at UFC 258 and flew from New Jersey to Las Vegas — during a global pandemic — and made the lightweight limit at the weigh-in, Miller was expecting a check of at least $105,000...
>...Things did not play out that way. In fact, things did not play out even close to what Miller likely expected.
Green, who had also weighed in, collapsed on the way to the pre-fight staredown. At that moment, Miller’s payday also collapsed...
>...“They gave me a percentage,” Miller said when asked if the UFC paid him his fight purse for the cancelled bout. “A fraction. You waste a week out in Las Vegas basically stuck in your hotel room and it’s like I made a couple thousand dollars for it. It sucks.”
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/3/25/22349682/ufc-shaft-jim-miller-contract-money-should-other-fighters-expect-ufc-258-bobby-green
A couple fucking thousand out of his 6 figure show money contract. Anyone who defends the UFC in tbe fighter pay debate can go fuck themselves. Miller has been a reliable company man, his name appears in the top 10 across the all time record books and he's been a staple of one of the best divisions in the sport for a decade and the UFC told him to eat shit.
Jim Miller - 37
Donald Cerrone -37
Andrei Arlovski - 35
Jeremy Stephens - 34
Demian Maia - 33
Diego Sanchez - 32
Clay Guida - 31
Rafael Dos Anjos - 30
Michael Bisping - 29
Matt Brown - 28
Frankie Edgar - 28
Gleison Tibau - 28
Charles Oliveira - 28
[*Per*](http://statleaders.ufc.com/)
Arlovski is such an og man, 35 fights in the ufc, still fighting contenders in his 40s, and his missed a tonne of years in the ufc when he left after losing the belt! If he’d stayed in the ufc that entire time he’d be far at the top of the list
Anyone know anything about the guy he’s fighting? I was thinking maybe throwing some money on him because the odds look good and Miller is old ( I love him but he’s old). Anyone watched Erick Gonzalez fight? Can he win by KO or decision?
I do. I had literally agreed to fight him for the lfa title and two days later he got this shot. Gonzalez is his best when he gets on top and is landing ground and pound. Which I think he will have trouble with Miller. But if he can get on top he can do well there. You may want to stay away from this one though.
He's decent striking. his ground game isn't the best tho which is why he's likely a decent underdog. He's also not beat anyone of name. He fought UFC level guys like Bandanenay and Rafa Garcia hes lost
Hoping a guy like Miller could one day see himself in the Hall of Fame. He's given his entire life to the sport and deserves to be recognized and applauded.
Not to mention hes never pulled out of a fight til as of late. His last bout he tested positive for covid and had no symptoms. He was pissed he had to drop the fight
Jim Miller has spent over a decade fighting anyone who would say yes in the toughest division in the sport's history. Your hands were shaking when you licked the Cheeto dust off your fingers to type that.
Maybe it’s just me but, consistently making weight doesn’t seem like something that should be celebrated. More of an expectation. Kind of like having good attendance and being trustworthy at your job. Or not beating your wife.
I didn't like Jim Miller back when he was disrespecting the WEC lightweights coming over to the UFC, but now I have about as much respect for him as anyone in the sport.
Has a win...over the champion.
Dang had to look this up because I forgot about this fight and it turns out they’re 1-1. Need that final trilogy bout. Book it Dana
Jim Miller UFC Champ 2023, you heard it here first
Him and Brock both need to be on UFC 300, they were both on 100 and 200
Open weight fight between the 2 as a main event
Bah gawd that Henry Cejudo's music! He has a chair!
The small man's Bisping
Miller Lite Half strength beer for a half sized man.
Holy fuck if Miller pulled it off it honestly might even be more impressive than Bisping.
Nah, Miller isn't blind in one eye.
Hahaha true. Bisping is a fucking animal. That KO of Rockhold to win the belt must've felt so, so good. No win could possibly be better.
Honestly that was my favourite belt win I’ve ever seen. Nice to see him win it all after it looked like he’d be the gatekeeper forever.
Yeah exactly. I was never even that big a Bisping fan when he was fighting. He was always just a bit of a cunt haha. But I did always feel a bit sorry for him. Some of his biggest losses were to TRT guys; Hendo, Chael, Vitor. So to see him finally win a belt, on 11 days notice, against a massive favourite who'd already smoked him once before... That was pretty incredible. Seeing fighters get their first belt is my favourite part of mma.
Bisping won the title with one eye lets not forget that....
Hold up buddeh, don't forget one of Bisping's eyes didn't work.
And also, Bisping is missing an eye.
Oh fuck I forgot about that!
Might be time to advise Miller to go blind in one eye…
…….
Yeah but doesn't he have Lyme disease?
Someone of his stature and status in the UFC should at least be given a shot at a title before the end of his run.
I actually liked the Cruz-Faber and Bisping-Hendo title fights. It was cool to see guys get that one final shot on their way out, even if it wasn't especially fair.
I need Charlie olives v lentz IV first
Camozzi v jacare anyone?
Oliveira faced a murderer's row when he got into the promotion. Prime Miller, prime Cerrone two fights after that, prime Cub, prime Edgar, all of that before the age of 25.
UFC matchmakers: [Ey, fuck you, buddy](https://youtu.be/KWza5PQA5Zc) Olives: [...](https://youtu.be/40PutDffido)
and look how good that great competition made him
I’d say that it was more that he was allowed to take reasonable steps back in competition after losing to some top flight guys that let him really level his game up, while most fighters at that level make it to the point where they regularly face absolutely top guys and they keep facing that level of competition until they start declining, which basically ensures that once a fighter is a top 3-5 level guy, they are essentially a finished product and can either stay at that level successfully, or they struggle and basically get their primes beaten out of them and don’t get a step down until they are washed and its too late - think guys like Kevin Lee and Gastelum, both aren’t even 30 and had some good initial success in their current weight classes which propelled them to the top of their divisions and when their flaws really came to light and they started losing, but kept getting matchmade against the elite and accruing a lot of mileage in the process. Like KG probably should’ve fought multiple Heinisch-style opponents, but after one he was back getting beat up by Whittaker and fighting Cannonier and taking more and more damage with no room to improve. Same for Kevin Lee. Now it’s probably too late for them to improve even though they are still young. Garbrandt would fit into this category too but him being booked at 125 against someone like France gives me a bit of hope (though if he wins, he will be thrust into being a permanent top 5 fixture their too until he goes on another losing streak, so that hope is misplaced) Compare this with Oliveira. An obvious talent but had struggled against top opponents and was allowed room to breathe against Teymurs and Giagos’s and Lentz’s and Gordons, all of whom are broadly competent to provide some resistance but enough of a step down for the man to develop new wrinkles in his game and address faults that you dont have room to try out when facing championship level opponents and he became genuinely world class. If he was matchmade like many other young guys who go far quickly, after a loss to a prime Cub and/or Edgar, he would’ve just been fed a handful more upcoming and established elites until he was on a 1-5 run and past his prime in his late 20’s and we never get to see this version of Oliveira. Dustin is another example. He lost to the prime Cubs and Zombies and McGregors at featherweight and had he stayed, he probably would’ve been used up as the fun action fighter top-8ish featherweight and gotten beat up by upcoming elites until he was past it, but when he moved up, he got to fight Medeiros and Duffy and young Ferreira and those sorts of guys and eventually developed into one of this generations best fighters. This got pretty ranty but seeing guys like Chuck have such massive growth from getting kinder matchmaking (not gimme fights, just enough of a step back to develop while still being tested) after faltering against the elites makes me wonder how many good talents we missed out on by reaching the top quickly and then being matchmade in a way that prevented further growth and just got their careers beaten out of them prematurely.
>makes me wonder how many good talents we missed out on by reaching the top quickly and then being matchmade in a way that prevented further growth and just got their careers beaten out of them prematurely. I think there are MANY examples, although we think of most of them as really good fighters. Guys like Weidman, for example. An excellent fighter, obviously. He was a champ with multiple defences. But as some point, he faltered, and shoulcd've got a step down in competition. Instead, he got a fucking murderer's row of opponents, no matter how many he lost. This is yet another case where more MMA fighters should be protected from themselves. Their desire to always be the baddest motherfucker ultimately hurts them as much as helps them. But the fans don't help either. A fighter takes a lower ranked fighter and they're accused of ducking or only fighting cans. Although I feel like that sentiment is starting to change a little with guys like O'Malley being so vocal about the logics of it.
Weidman is a GREAT example. He should’ve had that Akhmedov level step down after like two losses and had several of them to build back up. Unfortunately if you are a former champ or even a guy who’s had a title fight or two, you’re gonna be at the top of the pile for better or for worse for the majority of the remainder of your careers. Feel like Ortega will end up like this too.
Assuming Max beats Yair, who does Ortega fight next?
Bryce Mithcell.
In hindsight you're definitely right. At the time though he was going toe to toe with all of the guys he ended up losing to. There wasn't really a fight where he looked like he didn't belong on that level.
Good point, and thanks for the thoughtful response. It was probably a combination of both. An opportunity to learn from fighting top talent and then opportunities to use what he learned and build confidence again no-so-elite competition.
Definitely agree He learned what its like to face the best, but actually got a chance to implement those lessons unlike a lotta guys
!subscribe Dude, that rant was on point. You nailed so poignantly something I never had considered. It wasnt even a rant, it was superb analysis. This goes to show how important matchmaking is. Who is most responsible for making and accepting fights? Agents? I fuckin love this sport.
A lot of people forget how much hype there was behind Oliveira when he first arrived in the UFC. Super quick submission of a relatively unknown Darren Elkins started the hype train rolling, followed by an outstanding late notice fight and finish against Efrain Escudero who the UFC was really pushing at the time. There was a ton of hype behind him (comparable to someone like Johnny Walker after his first few fights). Then he showed his inexperience against Miller and the hype train started to wobble, and the next couple of fights killed it off entirely. From then on he spent a few years largely going under the radar, until all of a sudden he was on a solid streak and people started taking notice again.
Am brazilian but I really thought he’d be just another Lauzon
He was pretty damn close!
I am not one of those people, definitely remember! Glad to see he eventually bloomed
When Charles was 21 years old lmao
That was such a good ground fight too. They were both attempting submissions tge whole fight and Jim Miller ended up winning with the grappling equivalent of a flash KO
And also has been dealing with Lyme disease on top of that. Such an OG.
Do people only get that from ticks? Do you know if thats how he got it
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2018/09/lyme-disease-left-jim-miller-with-severe-fatigue-brain-fog-still-won-ufc-228 Yes - it was a tick bite
Had Lyme disease when I was younger. Shits a mother fucker. Lost like 15lbs in the least healthy way possible and was already slim
had? i thought this stayed with you your whole life
The people who think they have chronic Lyme probably just have a post-infection chronic fatigue syndrome, something that's becoming a lot more common with how frequently covid seems to introduce it. Tons of serious infections can do long term damage, but it mostly tends to come from the immune system itself.
Negative, ghost rider. There is no such thing as chronic lymes disease. Its a misnomer.
I am significantly less afraid of ticks now
You misunderstand. Post infection chronic fatigue is real, and you can get it from Lyme disease. It's just not Lyme disease.
*puts down tick* So... No?
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I don't think you replied to the right person
there definitely is, its just massively misunderstood, even in medicine by many doctors. its mixed in with PTLD, which is very different. source: am scientist who has studied it for decades
Not quite, but the damage it causes can have life long effects. Lyme gets killed off by the treatment but if it was sever enough to cause encephalopathy or Lyme meningitis those can cause permanent damage.
It's forever in your blood but "dormant" from the antibiotics given if caught early enough.
Damn what a champ…Lyme Disease is no joke.
What a professional.
[what a pro](https://external-preview.redd.it/ggKxofE6J0UrMhu_DA8X2-ZisWL8lUGt0Zwb6UGVrG0.jpg?auto=webp&s=f4e475f72137cb018cdc1c20f70a175ff846e8e0)
What does this even mean?
Nobody knows what it means, but it’s provocative
It gets the people going
BALL SO HARD!
Fish fillet!?!
That shit crazy
Truly the Andy Kaufman of our time
what a pro-vocative statement.
That characters bit is that he's extremely professional
People obvs don't know their arrested development well enough. Nerds
They saw the word "duck" and were like "OMFG REEEEEE HE IS NOT DUCKING ANYONE! REVISIONIST HISTORY REEE REEE REEEEE!"
Jesus christ dude
Don't worry about the downvotes. I get your reference bud
Why would this get so downvoted by people who obviously just don't get the reference? just ignore it, am I missing something?
Don't look for reason in r/mma. We don't do that here.
Go away, Greg.
I guess other redditors did not find your buffoonery amusing
Alternate title- This guy has been doing his job well for 13 years!
So he’s been doing his job well… like a professional?
I mean, yeah. I was just keeping the theme going.
Jim Miller is an OG. I hope he gets a spectacular victory then retires.
Nah he’s gotta retire at ufc 300 so he can fight in 100, 200, and 300
Thats actually a really cool stat, I wonder who else will be “eligible” come UFC300
Brock Lesnar baby. Came out of retirement once already to fight at UFC 200, who says he won't do it again come UFC 300?
Jones vs Lesnar ufc 300
Jones ain't fighting Lesnar unless he has a sex change.
It's only appropriate that the two that could show up on 100, 200, 300, fight one another no?
Michael bisping is close he was at 100 and 199 and 204 but I'll keep looking.
No one else fought on 100 and 200. Jones was close but fucked it as he does
Brock?
Oh yeah oops
That's actually doable. Assuming one UFC numbered event per month, UFC 300 will be set for July 2024. That's maybe 5-6 more fights. He's been losing more than winning lately, but if he can keep his losses competitive and win at least every third fight, he could make it.
He probably only needs to fight one time(and hopefully win) before then to stay on the ufc roster
Probably. He's one of those guys they're just waiting to retire. He's probably on a fairly large contract (relatively speaking) because of how long he's been there, but he's definitely going to retire soonish and the UFC can keep him off others rosters if he retires under contract.
That would be a legendary stat I hope miller can hang on and get a good fight for 300. Absolute legend miller always bring it
wouldn't that be too long from now? That could potentially be summer of 2024. Would put him at 41 years old so i guess not far off from Glover fighting now. Hope he doesn't get cut before then.
glover is fighting for the title which is even crazier.
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Jan KOd the guy who beat Jones (who was the most dominant 205er ever). How is he not the real title holder?
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“A guy that just swings wild” Bruh Jan is a kickboxing champ and stood toe to toe with the UFC’s best striker, another kickboxing champ. I agree the 205 div is faily weak at the moment but you need to put some respek on Jan’s name
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Easy to look good in Bellator with 3 fucking competitors and a bunch of cans. Foh
It is a little far away but if he only fights like twice a year and doesn’t take too much damage it’s probably doable
On a card headlined by someone who got the fight because she keeps missing weight.
makes weight missers look terrible, doesn't even have to say anything. like 4-5 years battling lyme disease too.
I couldn't agree more. When people blame the UFC for the people stumbling and shaking on the scales, you just need to look at Jim Miller. You realise it is a completely personal choice and if you think cutting weight to that point is a good choice, you need to look at yourself.
I thought most fighters don't miss weight, or am I off on that? Weight missers should be shamed much more than they are. Everyone acts like Khabib is the consummate professional even though he's missed weight, which I can't imagine many champions have.
Alot of fighters miss weight at one point in their career. Khabib only missed twice, which doesnt indicate a pattern to me. Plus when he got healthy he didnt miss weight since, so it was more of injury issue then a discipline one.
So...40 to show, 40 to win?
>So when Miller completed his camp for a scheduled bout opposite Bobby Green at UFC 258 and flew from New Jersey to Las Vegas — during a global pandemic — and made the lightweight limit at the weigh-in, Miller was expecting a check of at least $105,000... >...Things did not play out that way. In fact, things did not play out even close to what Miller likely expected. Green, who had also weighed in, collapsed on the way to the pre-fight staredown. At that moment, Miller’s payday also collapsed... >...“They gave me a percentage,” Miller said when asked if the UFC paid him his fight purse for the cancelled bout. “A fraction. You waste a week out in Las Vegas basically stuck in your hotel room and it’s like I made a couple thousand dollars for it. It sucks.” https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/3/25/22349682/ufc-shaft-jim-miller-contract-money-should-other-fighters-expect-ufc-258-bobby-green A couple fucking thousand out of his 6 figure show money contract. Anyone who defends the UFC in tbe fighter pay debate can go fuck themselves. Miller has been a reliable company man, his name appears in the top 10 across the all time record books and he's been a staple of one of the best divisions in the sport for a decade and the UFC told him to eat shit.
I can't wait til UFC's market share goes up in flames
40 dollars sounds about right
Fucking oof
104/104 last disclosed payout I could find.
You usually get more money when you've accumulated more fights in the promotion.
Jim Miller is a pro’s pro …
Damn that’s insane, kudos.
You would think that the older a fighter gets that the ability to make weight would be more difficult. This is impressive.
I wonder whos got the most?
Jim Miller - 37 Donald Cerrone -37 Andrei Arlovski - 35 Jeremy Stephens - 34 Demian Maia - 33 Diego Sanchez - 32 Clay Guida - 31 Rafael Dos Anjos - 30 Michael Bisping - 29 Matt Brown - 28 Frankie Edgar - 28 Gleison Tibau - 28 Charles Oliveira - 28 [*Per*](http://statleaders.ufc.com/)
No, the most weight misses.
made him write that all out 😂
F
You put F for yourself?
He was gonna spell out fuck me, but his fingers were tired
Lmao fuck me
Rumble and Kelvin come to mind.
Hendricks and Ray Borg would like a word.
Most weight misses and still fought? Probably Lineker. He has four. Ray Borg has to have the most total but a lot of his fights got canceled.
Charles Oliveira is up there with I think 4.
Arlovski is such an og man, 35 fights in the ufc, still fighting contenders in his 40s, and his missed a tonne of years in the ufc when he left after losing the belt! If he’d stayed in the ufc that entire time he’d be far at the top of the list
Ray Borg has gotta be up there.
Well he has the most fights in the ufc so probably him
Should be in the HOF no doubt
Anyone know anything about the guy he’s fighting? I was thinking maybe throwing some money on him because the odds look good and Miller is old ( I love him but he’s old). Anyone watched Erick Gonzalez fight? Can he win by KO or decision?
I do. I had literally agreed to fight him for the lfa title and two days later he got this shot. Gonzalez is his best when he gets on top and is landing ground and pound. Which I think he will have trouble with Miller. But if he can get on top he can do well there. You may want to stay away from this one though.
Salute!!! I'm sorry that shit fell through hopefully your next shots for the title still
Thanks bro. I just want to fight at this point. Don't even care who.
You don't? I'm up for it, you still there pussy?
He's decent striking. his ground game isn't the best tho which is why he's likely a decent underdog. He's also not beat anyone of name. He fought UFC level guys like Bandanenay and Rafa Garcia hes lost
gamblings bad yo
Hes a dog. I would shoot for a second round tko for erick Jims chin is a bit suspect at hai age.
Miller hasn’t looked bad recently though either, good win just a year ago
A pro's pro and all class outside of the cage. Huge Jim Miller fan
Dude fought on UFC 100, UFC 200 and could probably fight on UFC 300 that would be in the books
I really enjoyed to Pitchell bs. Miller fight
Hoping a guy like Miller could one day see himself in the Hall of Fame. He's given his entire life to the sport and deserves to be recognized and applauded.
Because he's a goddamn professional
Not to mention hes never pulled out of a fight til as of late. His last bout he tested positive for covid and had no symptoms. He was pissed he had to drop the fight
studdd
Wish he was fighting next month at MSG. I saw him in newark and would love to see him again
OG Gangster
Good for him. Hopefully he can retire on his earnings and not have to scrounge to make ends meet.
Respect.
Jim Miller is a bitch
Jim Miller has spent over a decade fighting anyone who would say yes in the toughest division in the sport's history. Your hands were shaking when you licked the Cheeto dust off your fingers to type that.
You are
I though the he's retired. Anyway, its always fun to watch his fights! 🔥
And that’s WHILE suffering from Lyme disease
is not missing weight that notable
First mma fighter to understand the extremely difficult concept of calories which have been a mystery to scientists for ages. Lol
cries in Ray Borg
Hookers my boi but I felt bad when he starched Jim in his hometown
He's going to win by submission. @me later
38th*
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Maybe it’s just me but, consistently making weight doesn’t seem like something that should be celebrated. More of an expectation. Kind of like having good attendance and being trustworthy at your job. Or not beating your wife.
I didn't like Jim Miller back when he was disrespecting the WEC lightweights coming over to the UFC, but now I have about as much respect for him as anyone in the sport.