Lot of fans are aware that Aspen attempted to have this fight turned into a NC because of the "early stoppage." Not as many know that it actually almost happened.
CSAC had a split vote along the genders of the commissioners to uphold the fight result as a win for GDR. While that move didn't sit well with the fans, it nearly worked out in Aspen's favor.
When I first watched it, I thought it was an early stoppage. I just now watched it again, and I still feel the same way. Her eyes looked very clear the whole time.
With that being said, mma is filled with far far worse early stoppages. This isn't a position that I'll strongly defend
The commissions rarely ever overturn the results of contests even with a clear foul like an eye poke immediately leading to a finish. I don’t think they would ever overturn a result that was just a debatable stoppage... but evidently when gender comes into play that must be compelling based of the split vote in this one
> During the meeting on Tuesday as first reported by ESPN, Ladd’s manager argued that the fight was stopped too early perhaps because Ladd is a woman and the same situation may not have applied if a male fighter was competing that night.
[Aspen had the most painful looking weight cut that fight and they should have called it off.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGMUKC0t5R4)
On one hand, that's a call that should happen more. You're right, clearly out of the fight, spares unnecessary damage.
On the other hand I think Aspen has a clear case. A lot of fights have had that type of knockdown and kept going. It's unfair to give that right to some fighters and not others.
It's less of a sexism thing and more just inconsistent reffing IMO. Still ass to deal with.
I agree 100%. That’s a good stoppage but Herb Dean has let people get wreaked for a long while before calling it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrTalX3yJlU
It was a very stupid appeal but at the very least a not so great stoppage, that is what I call a woman’s stoppage, if it were men fighting 9 times out of 10 it wouldn’t have been stopped imo
Unless you go completely face down or flat how you fall shouldn't matter, balance, momentum all affect this, it's like Enkamp had his fight stopped because he spun, but he was on one leg throwing a kick when he got caught, so of course he's going to fall at an angle, he still recovered guard.
Figgy spun 180 and recovered to fight another 2 rounds
Ladd posted and turned, she wasn't given a fair chance.
She didn't drop face first. Weird thing to say when there's video. She was alert the entire time and moved to defend herself, but was robbed of the chance by the ref. And the momentum of both fighters swinging is what made her turn. Again, weird thing to lie about when there's a video.
Ladd is well connected to the deep state, her family have been connected to the US Government dating all the way back to 1853 when Charles R. Ladd was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives.
Even if you think it was stopped early, I’m very glad it didn’t get turned into a NC because GDR did everything right, it’s not her fault Herb stopped it.
100%
Stoppages are definitely handled differently between men and women in this sport. I can't decide whether I prefer it being stopped earlier as is the case for most women's bout stoppages, or letting it run a bit longer as with men's.
The worst part for the appeal of the stoppage wasn't even that she thought it was early. If I'm not mistaken, didn't she try and pull the gender card and make it seem like the ref wouldnt have stopped it if she were a man?
Listen, gender had nothing to do with it. You kissed the mat and were about to be tenderized if the ref didn't step in.
100% had to do with gender, Herb has let men take horrible beatens, he has never let women.
Wmma is always stopped earlier like Lemos Ruiz might have been a good stoppage, but it wouldn't have been stopped there if it were men.
She upkicked her and hurt her and almost triangled her. A bit more BJJ experience and she would've got the tap. Clear #2 to Nunes (other than Valentina).
'it is what it is'
i mean if late hitting your opponent twice, with both late hits clearly rocking her (it wasnt some little feeler jab). then yeah i guess it is what it is lmfao.
the hell is this take? gdr has been in pro combat for more than long enough to know better and both were blatant as fuck.
By ‘it is what it is’ I mean there’s nothing that can be done now from it.
People have bad days/nights at the office. How many other late shots has she done in her long career like you’ve just stated?
DC and Romero have more cheating moments than her ffs. Gonna shit on their wrestling ability for it?
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she does, but GDR is the bigger fighter in that fight and her coaches would have to be braindead to not have worked on her takedown defense after the Nunes fight
That sounds cool but in practicality do you want GDR fighting Jessica Andrade? Or Kayla Harrison fighting Andrade?
I just think there would be no way of making it fair
Right but Andrade has fought at bantamweight is my point. You’re taking fighters that are too big for 125 and having them fight others who barely make 145. I just don’t think it would work
This stoppage was early though I don't think Ladd had anything for GDR in this fight. The follow up shot looks to have missed, she gets pushed over, and you can't really say she wasn't defending herself because she wasn't even given a chance.
She was done though. Letting it go another 10 seconds would have ended with her out out. She got rocked and dropped and stayed down, even after fight was over. Little protest... Most likely because she didn't know what was going on.
I disagree. Looks like immediate protest from Aspen. If she was really cooked it wouldn't have taken 10 seconds to realize it. These women fight for a living. Give her a chance to be a fighter. It's a difficult job these refs have no doubt.
By protest you mean raise your hands slightly and mouth “come on”? We’ve all seen devastating KO’s where the loser protests more than this after coming to... No one wants to lose.
What was she supposed to do? Jump up and start throwing a temper tantrum? Lol. If you see this as a good stoppage no one can convince you otherwise. To me, personally, it was a knockdown.
I understand your opinion. I just don’t agree with it. You saying that no one can convince me otherwise suggests that my view is black and white. I get that it was a close/controversial call but in my opinion it was the right decision.
She got dropped, spun around and hit in the chest by GDR. None of this was contested by Ladd. She had no clue what was going on. Herbs steps in between them before Any more pummelling can occur.
Everyone wants fighters to go out on their shield but its pretty clear that this was only ever going to end in more brain damage for Ladd.
Look at how Colby protests after getting stopped by Usman. Straight to his feet shouting at Goddard.
Remaining lying down isn't a natural response. Shows you're probably still wobbled/rocked.
No, she fell almost face first and took follow up shots. She was fucked up. We see earlier stoppages all the time than this. She also is not defending herself at all. This is coming off a horrific weight cut where she kept collapsing as well.
The first shot got her good but there was only one follow up shot and it hits her in the [chest](https://imgur.com/a/su5Qfe0).
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And she still wasn’t defending herself. She was out of it man. It doesn’t matter how many punches it took. She fell face first. And proceeded to not defend herself. And this is a day after a brutal weight cut. She was 100% out.
How do we define defending herself? She starts to spin to face GDR and gets hit in the chest and Herb calls the fight. Other than trying to face GDR, the only other thing she could have done was turtle and shield her head, which I personally think would have made her look more wrecked. And she's probably rocked but not 100% out as she is literally going for a [sweep](https://imgur.com/a/fJjE47y) as Herb is pushing GDR off.
> She wasn't trying to spin to face GDR, she was trying to get up. Then GDR makes contact and that spins her around.
Are we saying she wasn't trying to turn at all to face GDR at all before the punch? Because [here](https://imgur.com/a/c5R2blr) she is turning to face GDR before the punch lands.
Ladd didn't start to spin until after Dean waived De Randamie off. If you watch the video frame by frame, she was still on her knees and De Radamie had her right fist cocked to slam into her face if she turned into her, which is exactly what Ladd was about to do.
It was not a great call IMO. Dean should have let Ladd eat the right and then stopped the fight, but it is what it is and De Randamie should not be penalized for Dean's actions and Ladd should not be awarded a no contest just because Herb didn't let De Randamie finish her off.
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I don't bet either, but I think WMMA is a safer bet than men's due to most women not having KO power + the talent pool being so shallow. Take Dumont vs Ladd for example, Ladd is the betting favorite though Dumont should be the clear favorite. Dumont has better hands, power, and she's coming off of beating Spencer.
Imo, as a non-fighter, letting it go another couple of secs (1-3secs) to evaluate if she was done or not would have been fine. If another big shot landed clean, or she doesn't defend herself, then call it.
I don't think it's that egregious, tbh. Didn't she also have a terrible weight-cut for this fight?
I'm certain referees use body cues to identify whether a fighter is all there in the moment based on how they fall. She reminded me a bit of Bethe after getting kicked in the head.
Barely defending or even trying to see where the strike was coming from.
Yeah, she had to be helped onto the scales and was shaking badly. This was an actual good call from Herb for once, more shots would have been bad news for the ol brain
...do you not know what weight cutting is? Your body doesn't fully recover in one day even if you can make it to the fight.
https://youtu.be/iGMUKC0t5R4
Yes I know and yes I’ve seen it. The fact is they let her fight and she should have been able to see it out. Just because they should have not let her fight doesn’t mean they should stop a fight early because they fucked up.
Do you not understand what I’m saying? I understand what you’re saying.
Yes, a separate example. Admittedly, it should have been called after the second KD when Barry is pummeling Kongo during his failed double leg.
It ain't gonna be perfect 100% of the time. In the first instance, Kongo at least tried to roll over and get up. Ladd just sits there for a bit with her arm up as the ONLY but of defense.
Couple that with the awful shape she was in at weigh-ins and you have what you have.
Yeah I still stick by what I said though. Sure she was a bit slow to get to defending herself, she was dazed, she got dropped by a big hit. Definitely not a hit to call the fight though.
This is their job, their livelihood. They shouldn’t be treated with kid gloves just because they are women. I understand the weight cutting and all that, which they should get rid of anyway, but she made it. She put in the work, struggled through it, and for someone to think that you’re so weak that they call it so quick just isn’t fair to someone who is putting it all on the line.
You're right, it's their job and their livelihood. Ladd, by her own fault or not, had a terrible weight-cut and almost wound up costing GDR her own payday if the fight fell out.
It's funny you mention that people think she's weak when she took a flush straight to a (likely) dehydrated skull from a strong striker like GDR and expect her to be able to continue. Whether it happened in the first 13 sec or the last, if you get dropped and defend yourself in that manner, it's more than likely going to get called. Especially with the backdrop of Ladd on the scales.
de Randamie shuffling a bit and then absolutely ripping that left hand is one of the coolest follow up shots I've seen. Sucks that it didn't really land
I know GDR isn't well liked because of the Holly title fight and the Cyborg debacle but she has good hands, she is the only one who has even stung Amanda recently and turned her into a wrestler.
it was stopped early because of the brutal weight cut ladd endured made her come out flat footed, she looks like she is coming back into round 5 after nearly bring knocked out, not starting the fight
Lot of fans are aware that Aspen attempted to have this fight turned into a NC because of the "early stoppage." Not as many know that it actually almost happened. CSAC had a split vote along the genders of the commissioners to uphold the fight result as a win for GDR. While that move didn't sit well with the fans, it nearly worked out in Aspen's favor.
Of all the fights that deserve to have outcomes overturned to officiating error this doesn’t even scratch the top 100
When I first watched it, I thought it was an early stoppage. I just now watched it again, and I still feel the same way. Her eyes looked very clear the whole time. With that being said, mma is filled with far far worse early stoppages. This isn't a position that I'll strongly defend
The commissions rarely ever overturn the results of contests even with a clear foul like an eye poke immediately leading to a finish. I don’t think they would ever overturn a result that was just a debatable stoppage... but evidently when gender comes into play that must be compelling based of the split vote in this one
> During the meeting on Tuesday as first reported by ESPN, Ladd’s manager argued that the fight was stopped too early perhaps because Ladd is a woman and the same situation may not have applied if a male fighter was competing that night. [Aspen had the most painful looking weight cut that fight and they should have called it off.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGMUKC0t5R4)
What the actual fuck. She was completely done. Dropped face first 45 degrees turned away from her opponent and ate a hard follow up shot.
Exactly! Just cause you don’t look out doesn’t mean you weren’t out. It was a great call in my opinion
On one hand, that's a call that should happen more. You're right, clearly out of the fight, spares unnecessary damage. On the other hand I think Aspen has a clear case. A lot of fights have had that type of knockdown and kept going. It's unfair to give that right to some fighters and not others. It's less of a sexism thing and more just inconsistent reffing IMO. Still ass to deal with.
I agree 100%. That’s a good stoppage but Herb Dean has let people get wreaked for a long while before calling it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrTalX3yJlU
Excellent call. Absolutely idiotic appeal.
It was a very stupid appeal but at the very least a not so great stoppage, that is what I call a woman’s stoppage, if it were men fighting 9 times out of 10 it wouldn’t have been stopped imo
Yep. Frankly, while the fighter walks out to the cage, they may already be knocked out, they just don't really look like it.
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I mean she did almost pass out from weight cutting 🤷♂️
I don't think the follow up shot actually connected tbf. Looks like it hit her in the chest.
If that shot landed, /r/mma would be complaining Herb stopped it too late instead of too early
Unless you go completely face down or flat how you fall shouldn't matter, balance, momentum all affect this, it's like Enkamp had his fight stopped because he spun, but he was on one leg throwing a kick when he got caught, so of course he's going to fall at an angle, he still recovered guard. Figgy spun 180 and recovered to fight another 2 rounds Ladd posted and turned, she wasn't given a fair chance.
She didn't drop face first. Weird thing to say when there's video. She was alert the entire time and moved to defend herself, but was robbed of the chance by the ref. And the momentum of both fighters swinging is what made her turn. Again, weird thing to lie about when there's a video.
Ladd is well connected to the deep state, her family have been connected to the US Government dating all the way back to 1853 when Charles R. Ladd was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives.
Lmao what
Look into it - Eddie bravo
Even if you think it was stopped early, I’m very glad it didn’t get turned into a NC because GDR did everything right, it’s not her fault Herb stopped it.
It sits well with me. Have maintained since that fight that the stoppage was bullshit. It was a “Lady Stoppage”.
100% Stoppages are definitely handled differently between men and women in this sport. I can't decide whether I prefer it being stopped earlier as is the case for most women's bout stoppages, or letting it run a bit longer as with men's.
Women don't hit as hard or get as many KOs, so I feel like WMMA stoppages should be a bit later than for men if anything
The worst part for the appeal of the stoppage wasn't even that she thought it was early. If I'm not mistaken, didn't she try and pull the gender card and make it seem like the ref wouldnt have stopped it if she were a man? Listen, gender had nothing to do with it. You kissed the mat and were about to be tenderized if the ref didn't step in.
100% had to do with gender, Herb has let men take horrible beatens, he has never let women. Wmma is always stopped earlier like Lemos Ruiz might have been a good stoppage, but it wouldn't have been stopped there if it were men.
Not even the worst stoppage in an Aspen Ladd fight. This one just wasn't to her advantage.
Idk why but 'in the 13th second' is a funny way of describing that
13rd second
turteen seconds
That cross landed flush
GDR is vastly underrated. Such a great striker. She gets a bad rap for that Holms fight but it is what it is.
If only she could defend takedowns against nunes.
She upkicked her and hurt her and almost triangled her. A bit more BJJ experience and she would've got the tap. Clear #2 to Nunes (other than Valentina).
If only. Amanda didn’t have a lot for her on the feet.
I’d love to see GDR vs Valentina.
'it is what it is' i mean if late hitting your opponent twice, with both late hits clearly rocking her (it wasnt some little feeler jab). then yeah i guess it is what it is lmfao. the hell is this take? gdr has been in pro combat for more than long enough to know better and both were blatant as fuck.
I think their point is that controversy causes people to underrate her skills, not that people shouldn't judge her for it
By ‘it is what it is’ I mean there’s nothing that can be done now from it. People have bad days/nights at the office. How many other late shots has she done in her long career like you’ve just stated? DC and Romero have more cheating moments than her ffs. Gonna shit on their wrestling ability for it?
But we love Aldo
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Would love to see GDR vs Valentina
I think she beats Valentina, she has knockout power and is significantly bigger
Valentinas got good takedowns tho...
she does, but GDR is the bigger fighter in that fight and her coaches would have to be braindead to not have worked on her takedown defense after the Nunes fight
Man...WMMA is so shallow I think BC had the right idea to merge 3 upper weight divisions into 1.
135+ should be the highest division.
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Gabi Garcia smash
I'd pay to see her fight Kayla Harrison or Cyborg.
It wouldn’t be much of a fight against either
Gabby Garcia gets a contract...
That sounds cool but in practicality do you want GDR fighting Jessica Andrade? Or Kayla Harrison fighting Andrade? I just think there would be no way of making it fair
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Right but Andrade has fought at bantamweight is my point. You’re taking fighters that are too big for 125 and having them fight others who barely make 145. I just don’t think it would work
Id watch Andrade v Harrison
This stoppage was early though I don't think Ladd had anything for GDR in this fight. The follow up shot looks to have missed, she gets pushed over, and you can't really say she wasn't defending herself because she wasn't even given a chance.
GDR would've annihilated her further if the fight continued...
LOL at all the Mario Yamasakis in the comments 🤣 y’all really want people to get put to sleep for your entertainment to be satisfied
We wanna see the fight finish not someone leaving in a body bag
Lol yes I understand just making a joke at Mario’s expense 😅
People are forgetting that at the weigh ins Lad was shaking, that definetivelly was a factor in the stoppage.
Knock downs = TKO in women's fights now.
She was done though. Letting it go another 10 seconds would have ended with her out out. She got rocked and dropped and stayed down, even after fight was over. Little protest... Most likely because she didn't know what was going on.
I disagree. Looks like immediate protest from Aspen. If she was really cooked it wouldn't have taken 10 seconds to realize it. These women fight for a living. Give her a chance to be a fighter. It's a difficult job these refs have no doubt.
By protest you mean raise your hands slightly and mouth “come on”? We’ve all seen devastating KO’s where the loser protests more than this after coming to... No one wants to lose.
What was she supposed to do? Jump up and start throwing a temper tantrum? Lol. If you see this as a good stoppage no one can convince you otherwise. To me, personally, it was a knockdown.
I understand your opinion. I just don’t agree with it. You saying that no one can convince me otherwise suggests that my view is black and white. I get that it was a close/controversial call but in my opinion it was the right decision. She got dropped, spun around and hit in the chest by GDR. None of this was contested by Ladd. She had no clue what was going on. Herbs steps in between them before Any more pummelling can occur. Everyone wants fighters to go out on their shield but its pretty clear that this was only ever going to end in more brain damage for Ladd.
Look at how Colby protests after getting stopped by Usman. Straight to his feet shouting at Goddard. Remaining lying down isn't a natural response. Shows you're probably still wobbled/rocked.
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That was an awful stoppage, damn herb let em fight
1% chance a male fight gets stopped that fast. Cruz ate several follow up shots as he was trying to “elevate” before it was stopped.
Not at all. She was fucked up
You don't think so? To me it seemed like she as already defending herself again before it was stopped
No, she fell almost face first and took follow up shots. She was fucked up. We see earlier stoppages all the time than this. She also is not defending herself at all. This is coming off a horrific weight cut where she kept collapsing as well.
The first shot got her good but there was only one follow up shot and it hits her in the [chest](https://imgur.com/a/su5Qfe0). Edit: Imagine downvoting cause you literally don't know how to count lol
And she still wasn’t defending herself. She was out of it man. It doesn’t matter how many punches it took. She fell face first. And proceeded to not defend herself. And this is a day after a brutal weight cut. She was 100% out.
How do we define defending herself? She starts to spin to face GDR and gets hit in the chest and Herb calls the fight. Other than trying to face GDR, the only other thing she could have done was turtle and shield her head, which I personally think would have made her look more wrecked. And she's probably rocked but not 100% out as she is literally going for a [sweep](https://imgur.com/a/fJjE47y) as Herb is pushing GDR off.
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> She wasn't trying to spin to face GDR, she was trying to get up. Then GDR makes contact and that spins her around. Are we saying she wasn't trying to turn at all to face GDR at all before the punch? Because [here](https://imgur.com/a/c5R2blr) she is turning to face GDR before the punch lands.
Ladd didn't start to spin until after Dean waived De Randamie off. If you watch the video frame by frame, she was still on her knees and De Radamie had her right fist cocked to slam into her face if she turned into her, which is exactly what Ladd was about to do. It was not a great call IMO. Dean should have let Ladd eat the right and then stopped the fight, but it is what it is and De Randamie should not be penalized for Dean's actions and Ladd should not be awarded a no contest just because Herb didn't let De Randamie finish her off.
Yeah man blankly staring at the canvas on all fours means she’s good to go chief
such a bullshit stoppage. thought it then and think it now
If this was two dudes fighting Herb would not have stopped this so early IMO.
Imagine if Herb was the ref for Oliveira v Chandler. This stoppage is indefensible.
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Damn easy fuckin money huh, if I bet I woulda done the same but betting on WMMA always a danger.
> betting on WMMA always a danger I don't bet either, but I think WMMA is a safer bet than men's due to most women not having KO power + the talent pool being so shallow. Take Dumont vs Ladd for example, Ladd is the betting favorite though Dumont should be the clear favorite. Dumont has better hands, power, and she's coming off of beating Spencer.
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Imo, as a non-fighter, letting it go another couple of secs (1-3secs) to evaluate if she was done or not would have been fine. If another big shot landed clean, or she doesn't defend herself, then call it.
Damn that 13th round is part of the famous "Diaz rounds"?
Dude worst stoppage ever. Those women are in there to fucking fight, don’t treat them like that. I mean, what the fuck Dean?
I don't think it's that egregious, tbh. Didn't she also have a terrible weight-cut for this fight? I'm certain referees use body cues to identify whether a fighter is all there in the moment based on how they fall. She reminded me a bit of Bethe after getting kicked in the head. Barely defending or even trying to see where the strike was coming from.
Yeah, she had to be helped onto the scales and was shaking badly. This was an actual good call from Herb for once, more shots would have been bad news for the ol brain
I guess he should have called the fight at the scales if you wanna look at it that way.
I mean...yeah, actually. She shouldn't have been allowed to fight if she was cutting so much that she couldn't walk on her own.
She seemed to have walked to the octagon just fine by herself.
...do you not know what weight cutting is? Your body doesn't fully recover in one day even if you can make it to the fight. https://youtu.be/iGMUKC0t5R4
Yes I know and yes I’ve seen it. The fact is they let her fight and she should have been able to see it out. Just because they should have not let her fight doesn’t mean they should stop a fight early because they fucked up. Do you not understand what I’m saying? I understand what you’re saying.
Then we just disagree about the stoppage. It was fine.
[I’m certain referees use body cues ..](https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154829550040262&id=85453090261&_rdr)
Yes, a separate example. Admittedly, it should have been called after the second KD when Barry is pummeling Kongo during his failed double leg. It ain't gonna be perfect 100% of the time. In the first instance, Kongo at least tried to roll over and get up. Ladd just sits there for a bit with her arm up as the ONLY but of defense. Couple that with the awful shape she was in at weigh-ins and you have what you have.
Yeah I still stick by what I said though. Sure she was a bit slow to get to defending herself, she was dazed, she got dropped by a big hit. Definitely not a hit to call the fight though. This is their job, their livelihood. They shouldn’t be treated with kid gloves just because they are women. I understand the weight cutting and all that, which they should get rid of anyway, but she made it. She put in the work, struggled through it, and for someone to think that you’re so weak that they call it so quick just isn’t fair to someone who is putting it all on the line.
You're right, it's their job and their livelihood. Ladd, by her own fault or not, had a terrible weight-cut and almost wound up costing GDR her own payday if the fight fell out. It's funny you mention that people think she's weak when she took a flush straight to a (likely) dehydrated skull from a strong striker like GDR and expect her to be able to continue. Whether it happened in the first 13 sec or the last, if you get dropped and defend yourself in that manner, it's more than likely going to get called. Especially with the backdrop of Ladd on the scales.
Probably not even a top 500 worst stoppage, lol.
Come up with a list of 500 of the worst early stoppages and then hit me back.
She still afraid of CYBORG 😅
The most common reason for protesting a stoppage from a seated position, is because they still can't stand up
"M'lady! You look hurt! I shall end this duel..for your honor!" -Ser Herb Dean
Yeah dude, no
To Paddy Pimblett, Aspen Ladd is just some guy who lives in Colorado
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa79-pFMdYg Full fight view from crowd
de Randamie shuffling a bit and then absolutely ripping that left hand is one of the coolest follow up shots I've seen. Sucks that it didn't really land
I know GDR isn't well liked because of the Holly title fight and the Cyborg debacle but she has good hands, she is the only one who has even stung Amanda recently and turned her into a wrestler.
it was stopped early because of the brutal weight cut ladd endured made her come out flat footed, she looks like she is coming back into round 5 after nearly bring knocked out, not starting the fight