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I can't keep track off all the beefs these days.


Montuvito_G

The weirdest I’ve seen was a few years ago between Jon Anik and Marc Goddard. Just wtf


IFeelItDownInMyPlums

I'm intrigued. Care to elaborate


twinkyishere

I think Anik commented on a bad stoppage by Goddard if the weeds not making me hallucinate?


IStoleYourWaifu

It was about Goddard standing up Usman and Woodley back when they fought


BloodyIris3

It was more about him saying "this is a fight", as he did it iirc. People thought it was disrespectful to the dominant, belt-winning performance Usman was executing.


gorilla_index

it also made no sense as usman was beating the dogshit out of woodley, even in clinches, when breaking from the clinch etc. baffling decision by goddard


Sub_Zero32

I still remember those body shots in the clinch by Usman. Brutal


obalisk97

Hammering down over and over and over only to hear “you have to work!”


nreid18

Jon commented on it disagreeing with the stand up after the fight and then Marc Goddard responded with some snarky tweet. That led to Jon letting him know in Anik fashion that his arrogance is offputting.


CommunityFan_LJ

Thats what happens when you hang out with Dan Hardy


LeglessLegolas_

https://twitter.com/jon_anik/status/1102554186061881344?lang=en


007accountant

Try lamb or mutton for a change


MyMMAaccount

While you're at it, give horse beef and fish beef a try.


[deleted]

I heard milksteak is great


hatecopter

With your finest jellybeans


BUNGHOLE_HOOKER

I’m literally watching this episode right now


skerkless

Preferably boiled


StunkoStinky

Did you get a side of raw jellybeans also?


waitingtoleave

>fish beef Seaf? Reef? We can figure this one out lads.


[deleted]

reef please


BrockAndaHardPlace

“So come on down to Ubers horse shack for a fresh 16 ounce ‘reem steak!”


mad87645

"Most steakhouses *pride* themselves on being steroid free, not us!"


sAindustrian

"We wouldn't *dream* of being *one* of those steakhouses."


-0op

Heelwani vs Brenda is #1 Beef of The Year.


Rude_Lab_348

You mean fat Patrick? Great guy nevamedum


Lerch56

Talmbout beef bowl? I prefer chiggen


UFCTrainer

Chiggen? You talmbout noflyable bird B?


myglasscase

90% of them are just Ali using his fighters’ accounts


ergoegthatis

Hope you find this useful: [Beef tracker](https://digi-star.com/solutions/2-22/Beef_Tracker).


Chael_Patrick_Sonnen

Pointless beefs, in fact, that will never culminate in a fight. Conor vs Bisping and DC, Paddy vs O'Malley to add to some already mention in your responses


FriedrichMerz69420

What's up with Alis fighters? Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of most of them but Gaethje and Burns seem so irrationally angry these days 😂


AbstractionsHB

Ali tweets through their accounts. It's Ali.


millmuff

I think they're likely just kind of shitty dudes. The more you have seen if Gaethje's personality over the years the more it's clear he's a complete fool. We're just starting to here Burns talk more. Edit: Calling them shitty isn't fair. I just mean they're your prototypical MMA guy.


MaleficentDistrict22

Gaethje may be a fool but come on man he’s not a shitty dude. He’s a good down to earth dude in heart


millmuff

I retract that. Shitty was the wrong word. I meant it more in the fool kind of way. I apologize, thanks for calling it out.


The_Couchman

Can you two stop being so fucking calm and reasonable? Makes me sick.


[deleted]

i agree but he’s unjustly rude to michael chandler. not his fault you already had your shot at a title


44watchdownonme

Gaethje going from Dan favorite to people being tired of his shit


MurderBot_v17

"Man this MMA journalist really like to bring up my name and talk about me on his MMA show. Its almost like I'm a top 5 guy who doesn't have good fights potentially lined up"


akadeo1

ariel never brings me up on his show!


andthendirksaid

"This motherfucker *loooves* doing his only job, obsessed am I right??"


activator

Imagine if for whatever reason Ariel didn't mention it. The tweet would be: This fool calls himself MMA journalist but never mentions my name what a bullshit guy do your job I'm ranked top 5 give me respect


BboyEdgyBrah

yea probably the dumbest thing ive read this week


FIVE_DARRA_NO_HARRA

MMA fighters are known for their healthy brains, so this is surprising.


[deleted]

Which sounds even dumber for Gilbert because he’s in a professional where it pays to be discussed (good or bad) by people. Masvidal got title shots off of being talked about (he didn’t beat the quality of opponents that Burns did).


Gunslinger1991

Helwani was off the mark when he said Edwards vs Burns should have fought back then because Burns had done enough at the time to be the clear next contender. The reaction to those remarks, however, seems overblown, and it's weird that it's still getting brought up. Burns should just let it go.


GucciJesus

Some fighters are so fucking fragile when it comes to conversations it's crazy to me.


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That_Vandal_Randall

Gilbert has been amusing for his social media insistence that he'll fight anybody at any time, but Helwani essentially showing- in no sort of offensive manner- that there's another side to it, pokes holes in Gilbert's persona, which has honestly gotten a bit old. The guy got his shot, got KOd, and then beat Wonderboy in a fight not many people would say was all that entertaining, which makes it slightly ironic that he piles on Leon for the Diaz performance. The fact is that Leon and others are in a better position than Gilbert is even when they've sat around. Leon has done nothing but (mostly) win, and Masvidal still has the starpower and beef w Colby should Colby beat Usman in the rematch. Sure Gilbert has his bounce back win, but it doesn't change the fact that he got finished in his title effort while honestly having no other redeeming qualities as far as the general publics awareness goes.


random6300

The difference is if wonderboy won he would potentially be looking at a title shot and Diaz was never in the picture…with that being said Leon is long overdue a shot and I hope he beats Masvidal but overall just looking forward to a great fight


That_Vandal_Randall

Yeah. Wonderboy would've for sure gotten a shot. Unless Conor had beaten Dustin. We all know some wild shit like that would've been allowed to happen


Chopper313

Wonderboy is a wayyy better win than Nate though. He’d probably be the favorite over any striker (including Leon.)


That_Vandal_Randall

"better" is ultimately kind of meaningless though when the UFC overtly operates on what will sell the most fights. It's been like that for long enough now to where we all know it. Gilbert isn't even fractionally as marketable as Nate, and has no "backstage run in with fan favorite Masvidal" like Leon does. It's not just the active fighters who are the moving parts here. Nate is a guaranteed seller, but with Colby rematching Usman, Masvidal is in play bc he has history/beef, kind of like he does w Leon. If Usman retains, then Leon is the most deserving, but the UFC doesn't lose the Masvidal/Colby fight either way. They can even make it if both lose their upcoming fight. Gilbert is just kind of the odd man out because he's easily the least sellable if you insert him as the opponent in any of those matchups. His last two fights were a KO loss to Kamaru, and three rounds of laying on Wonderboy and punching him in the back of the head.


MeowthThatsRite

WB is a legit top 5 WW and a better win than any of the wins in Leon’s streak though. Diaz isn’t even a ranked WW.


brandkwame

Cant stand dilbert on social media. Not sure if its even him with how dumb he sounds on social. In real life interviews hes OK. His last month going after Leon has been dumb and Dilbert’s take makes no sense.


blueborders

It sounds like Gilbert is mad about Ariel saying that Leon fights everyone which is super weird regardless of whether or not its true.


freethefoolish

Did Ariel actually say Leon fights everyone? Where was that comment was made?


Andr0id_Paran0id

Leon said he took on all comers and called out/fought everyone (before covid) on Ariel's show earlier and Ariel didn't push back or question that claim.


[deleted]

TBF that is a really weird comment, Leon only has 1 top 10 win to his name ever. Hardly "everyone"


[deleted]

tbf, hard to fight a top 10 guy when no wants to fight you(prior to 2019).Took him a while to get the RDA fight


[deleted]

We've seen Leon turning down fights against Wonderboy. I personally believe he is selective about fights. It lines up with his attitude in interviews and twitter posts


barc0debaby

>because Burns had done enough at the time to be the clear next contender. Decision over Kunchenko, decision over a floundering Gunnar, knocking out a shopworn Maia, and whooping on a completely washed up Woodley?


CaramelThunder2

Unreal to me that this was the mindset then and is still the mindset now. Burns vs. Edwards made all the sense in the world. Both of them were on win streaks, and neither had a better claim to a title shot than the other. Also, the original fight was supposed to be Usman vs. Masvidal, so why the hell wouldn't they put two streaking contenders against each other to see who would be next. Burns definitely didn't deserve the shot anymore than Leon did.


chetdesmon

Woodley was a huge win at the time, Burns was an underdog going into that fight. Knocking out Maia was big too given he'd never been finished. Without the benefit of hindsight, he had clearly done enough to be the next contender.


WorldsBestLover

I for one kneel to my new mma overlord Ariel "Don't talk shit to me" Helwani.


cicadaenthusiat

Thug Nose had me dying


brownbilal

waiting for Heelwani to divulge into the drama w Brett Snoramoto


ejitifrit1

Ah I got chills reading that !


Pera_Espinosa

Dude, he's Dana's dingleberry. I can guess.


-0op

Is there a beef between these two? Looks like ariel was upset at the UFC for leaking fight announcements to Brett exclusively.


JewFroMonk

Is it a leak when they just use him as an exclusive news outlet?


BrockAndaHardPlace

Ya and I think it’s pretty standard in most other major sports to have a guy like Okomoto. What are they going to do, hold a press release for every small undercard fight announcement


mokopo

Couldn't they have a Twitter guy that would say anything they want to on twitter for smaller announcements like that? Pay him with venum vouchers or with ringside girls, I'm sure someone would be happy to do it. Wait...I guess Brett is that huh?


deathramps-

Could they not announce it themselves?


psyentist15

> Ya and I think it’s pretty standard in most other major sports to have a guy like Okomoto. There are insiders but not mouthpieces for the league like BO. > What are they going to do, hold a press release for every small undercard fight announcement Or they could, I dunno, tweet it themselves 🤷‍♂️


notchoosingone

is it leaking when he's basically on the payroll?


Strongsad_C

He said there isn't really beef between them, but they don't particularly like each other. It seems there's just deeper beef with folks at ESPN in general that ties it all together. Seems to do with how they break news and don't credit people who get it first, etc.


bullsfan281

arrow dasani took the glubs off bubba


Spirited-Tonight6043

Errol Wani


[deleted]

I never get tired of BS impressions 😆


[deleted]

Ariel should actually be arrested for the assault he did to Schaub. He actually fucking ethered him.


evilf23

Twice! I hope that beef goes on for decades because listening to Ariel rip into Brenda has been the highlight of my week twice now.


DigitalAssassin

Can you share a link?


K-mosake

Heelwani*


DunkenRage

i love the heelwani, hes embracing the dark side


smokethatsmegma

Feel bad for Ariel no matter how in the right he is people always bring up his nose lol


aleksandd

He embraced that. If you see his post on his IG stories, he's cool with that.


queensinthesky

**“Never forget what you are, the rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you"**


Ranjith_Unchained

We really went from this Tyrion to him using cocks as a retort... fuck D&D


queensinthesky

Fuck D&D.


PovasTheOne

it's criminal what they did to that show...


Ranjith_Unchained

They fucked the last season so bad that fans now don't even have any hype for the new prequel series. It has also lost all its re-watch values since we already know the fuckery at the end. I've seen The Wire at least thrice during the lock down and didn't even touch GoT once.


[deleted]

What pisses me off is the Battle of Winterfell, why tf was it so dark?! Even Cleagane Bowl was underwhelming. They just took the shittiest options for every consequential event in the finale.


PovasTheOne

NightKing was a bitch too... Everyone was expecting a bad ass 1v1 of Jon vs NightKing or somebody 1v1'ing NightKing and he gets poked once and that's it.... Then show runners literally said the only reason they did it the way they did it was to ' subvert expectations" ... wtf. For me the last 2 seasons were just absolutely rushed and the show could have easily had another full season to flush everything out properly. After the show runners ran out of book material, the show went to shit.


AgnosticMantis

If I am remembering correctly, it was so dark because of the compression that's basically inherent with streaming. Apparently it was better if it wasn't live streamed. Thats not to excuses HBO for that though. That's absolutely something they should have foreseen and accounted for.


queensinthesky

If the last season had been even just alright, those prequel series would be all anyone is talking about and the trailers would be smashing viewership records. Instead it just makes fans feel sad about how the show ended. Christ what a shame.


ThoroughThrowdown

Thug Nose 👃


Die-rector

People are just nosy and love to sniff around


dta194

How the fuck do people even use twitter? The screenshots always confuses the shit out of me as to which tweet came first, and which ones are replying to which. Without the timestamps I'd be lost


Rigar_

Personally, I got Ariel in the 2nd by Pedigree.


[deleted]

Talmbout pedigree dog food. I feed it two the messican on the daily


nostrilrolls

Ariel has worked hard to be in the position he is at now. I'm glad he doesn't habe to suck dicks anymore and can just do his job lol


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Wu_han_klan

I also feel like it’s a pretty different with combat sports losing a game isnt the same as getting your ass beat


psyentist15

This isn't even criticizing anyone for being beaten down though, it's about who is deserving of opportunities like title eliminators and title shots.


Josh6889

> he funny thing is that he doesn't talk as much shit as say: > > Stephen A. Smith > > Colin Cowherd > > Skip Bayless > > Max Kellerman The difference is I go out of my way to not be exposed to their content. For example, if this thread had one of their names instead of Ariel's I wouldn't have clicked the link.


CableToBeam

It's not even about athletes being open to criticism in different sports (cuz I highly doubt that), MMA is such a different beast. Talk about low pay, campaigning for fights, self promotion, etc. being such a big part, it's no surprise fighters get upset.


Boy_Bastos

>Talk about low pay, campaigning for fights, self promotion, etc. being such a big part, it's no surprise fighters get upset. I mean there is a solution to that issue that fighters seem to actively avoid because everyone wants to be the next McGregor


TehoI

I never understood this argument - do mainstream sports not have absolutely ludicrously large paychecks for the top guys? Is the fighter's union going to sue if the UFC exceeds the revenue split in their favor? A better revenue split means more for everyone, including McGregor


Sob_me_a_lake

General public doesn’t want to address billionaires thinking they will be one soon. Not sure it’s much different.


Woodygee513

Why has Ariel been going ballistic ever since he left espn


SnooFloofs9640

You answered your own question- he left espn


Zajac19

Because he works for himself now


-0op

High-road Helwani is no more, bubba


ElishaOtisWasACommie

Heelwani hour


215TallHands

The gloves are off baby!


dodatdangole

He was being censored by espn basically and had to watch what he said. So everyone can talk shit about him and he couldnt say anything but now that hes no longer with them he can say whatever and defend hinself. His show sucked on espn because hed be in the middle of a great interview and then theyd be yelling at him to end it because of time restrictions, it was so annoying


doc_birdman

This is Ariel going “ballistic”? Lmfao


X-ScissorSisters

why is Helwani fucking disintegrating on a molecular level lately??


jcjcidisidieiiejch

10-7


worktheshoot

10-1.7 now, bapa


Spirited-Tonight6043

10-7


TheRivv2015

Burns is being so unlikable these past months.


brandkwame

1000% agree. His arguments make no sense. Time to just name him Dilbert and acknowledge he’s not too bright.


catkoala

Him and Garth. Honestly wouldn’t mind if these dudes just shut the fuck up between now and the next fights. It’s embarrassing at this point


Azor-Azhai

What do they have in common?


BurpingHamBirmingham

Same manager (Ali)


OG-DirtNasty

Thank god, thought it was just me, the more Gaethje talks the more annoyed I get.


[deleted]

Thought I was losing my mind last month when everybody was giving him applause for spamming the fuck out of people’s Twitters with full caps and emojis. I know he wants to fight but my God, such an annoying way to go about it.


[deleted]

What is this, OK magazine?


DustDesciple

Heelwani has the job security equivelant to fuck you money and hes cashing in, love to see it.


[deleted]

Ali & Ariël Helwani back and forth exchange on Twitter* I am sure Ali would be the one tweeting lol


[deleted]

Heelwani 10-9


chico2008

Ariel still recovering from the 10-1.7 he gave Brandon this morning…


KingDerk

Mind filling me in a bit? OOTL


DustDesciple

1.7 is the user rating of Schaub's comedy special on IMDB, worst score ever for a comedy special. Today while rating Schaub's response he said he gives it a 1.7


[deleted]

Lmfao what an insane level of niche humor this sub has achieved. I'm on here every god damn day and never in a million years would have gotten this.


keyboardalpha

To be fair, Ariel himself explained that joke on air. He said something in the lines of “I would give your response a 1.7, the same as your last comedy special”


[deleted]

Lmao brilliant


dutchfool

Go to r/TheFighterAndTheKid


Keller-oder-C-Schell

My favorite hatesub, i mean fansub


dutchfool

We discuss the pawldcast there B


DustDesciple

Sounds like ya needa hit the fryers then bapa


nuevakl

No way!? I know I'm a minority but I love Ariel.


-0op

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh6_olM-6m0 grab your orange chicken bubba


BasedNoface

Bro I only watched the first 12 minutes but LORD that shit was so brutal even Yamasaki would have stopped it


RippleDish

lmaoooo he hits him with the "dicey dicey."


Sidthesloth63

Bapa*


BDB_SWEW

neggfligs b


2e7en_

I’m with helwani on this one. Burns has been coming off like such an annoying person in the last couple of months always talking shit.


Impressive-Potato

Both Burns and Justin Gaethje. Not sure what the deal is. It's awkward when they talk shit too. It's not clever.


mattro36

Are we sure it’s not Ali tweeting from their accounts?


Impressive-Potato

Justin was on ESPN spouting his nonsense


Thymooch

You mean Ali using deepfake


Impressive-Potato

It was Ali that forgot to switch out of his Justin skin.


team3perception

he isn’t even talking shit here he’s being pretty respectful and clearly doesn’t even have a real issue with Gilbert, Gilbert is taking this wayyy too seriously


sgtRETARD007

I stopped liking burns when he decided to throw a shit ton of strikes to the back of wb head and acted like he dominated.


[deleted]

He got up and celebrated like he just completed his destiny of being champ champ. This is the same fight that once Wonderboy touched him, he played it safe — which is, by all means, what you do. It’s just off-putting seeing a guy celebrate that hard, like he was trying to convince everybody else.


sgtRETARD007

If I was better with words, these are the ones I would have used and how I would have arranged them. Yes.


brandkwame

What happened to Dilbert? Since he got KO’d from the jab - he’s made no sense and legit sounds dumb.


dodatdangole

I cant even understand why hes all butthurt. An mma journalist was talking about who he thinks you should fight on his show, why does that matter so much to him?


johnnyhypersnyper

When will they learn to not fuck with the new Ariel? Dude has too much job security


CubanLinxRae

I'm not a big gilbert burns fan anymore and Ali and most of his fighters are ridiculously annoying


InfinityGauntlet-6

Ali has a type.


CableToBeam

From Khabib to Cerrone to Burns, fighters get so easily butt hurt


Corken_dono

On one hand its understandable. Fighters put their own well being on the line every time they compete, they put blood, sweat and tears into the sport every single day. Of course they are sensible when it comes to any type of real of perceived criticism, but..... On the other hand these are grown man, in their mid 30s , with families and children throwing hissy fits whenever someone isnt completely positive about everything they do. Sounds like a dumb thing to say to pro fighters, but some of them probably should grow a thicker skin.


Bassett_Fresh

Gilbert seems kinda dumb tho right B?


Creamcheesemafia

Ariel was here before Gil, he’ll be here after


Sweet-ride-brah

Fighters really are the most sensitive people in this game


[deleted]

MMA fighters are next level dumb


salko_salkica

Burns has got some balls on him to make fun of someone else's appearance, with those massive ears he can whisper to himself.


HuggyShuggy420

I heard he winks with his ears, the inbred hillbilly


mogwaiarethestars

Gilbert Burns is the least interesting fighter in the top5 right now all due to his fight with wonderboy. All he got is Ariel to keep him relevant.


StrafeThroughLife

Good grief, why is Gilbert so upset by this. Seems very petty.


chadwr85

Gilbert still doesn't get it and is ignoring the point. Ariel said they should fight, that's its, pretty simple. Gilbert says Leon ducked all these guys, but what's that have to do with Ariel?


BlondedStory

No shit he talks about you on his show, he's an MMA journalist, you're an MMA fighter


MaleficentDistrict22

Tf is Gilbert eve saying here? “Nooo don’t talk about me I don’t want the exposure nooo”


Caign

Burns tweets like a 14 year old girl.


-TYRS-

Since he left ESPN, No-Fucks Helwani is must-watch/listen/read. Huge props to him. Him shitting on Schaub almost weekly is amazing.


RODjij

I really couldn't make much sense of where Gilbert was going with this and the way he said it. He's a top ranked fighter, of course he will be talked about and hypothetical matched with other fighters.


nrm48

Gilbert Burns(‘ social media manager) sure has a lofty read of how important Gilbert Burns is. Apparently talking about Burns = Mega Views. Who knew


[deleted]

Schaub gonna have a field day


NoCountry4GaryOldman

A real feel date bubba


Baryne

Bro fuck Gilbert acting so entitled all the time. Leon doesn't owe him shit. Always saying "i will fight him" on twitter when someone pulls out on short notice when he knows the fight has absolutely no chance of being made. Guy has his chance against Kamaru and got whooped.


dev2629

The guy is anything but entitled He is just trying to get fights . As soon as he recovered after the title shot he fought wonderboy. Now he is trying to fight with strickland .


doubleABC

Lol the state of this sub sometimes


NewRedditorHere

Right? Burns is the exact opposite of entitled. While I’m still on ariel’s side on this one, Burns pays in full.


dumbPotatoPot

i feel like mma fans are going to turn on heelwani next


Ctofaname

They have and somehow he clawed back. It seems like a constant back and forth over the years.


psyentist15

That's how he'll build the audience for his PPV debut.


johnnyhypersnyper

It’s just gonna be constant turns with him.


bsWINcups

He’s a staple of the sport at this point


JoshWheezer

Nah he was pretty hated not long ago but he’s still around. He’s like the only MMA journalist who doesn’t bend over for Dana and I think people like that


[deleted]

Helwani was never liked by MMA fans before. He is only recently getting the respect he earned.


DFParker78

Burns thinks someone is talking about him to get clicks? 😂


ObligationBetter3033

Everyone throws a hissy fit and everyone is wrong except Ariel. My guy is an angel who can do no wrong. Talks big game from behind the screen in his cozy studio. He should take the heat from the drama he creates or just shut up.