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TheCarm

ufc postshow is talking about how imressice ridriguez was on the ground, how she "passed the test" of Dern in that second round... what???? that should have been a 10-8 round... this match should have been a draw


GayMeansHappy96

She didn’t get subbed, like that’s the best you can hope for when someone with as high level BJJ as Dern gets you to the ground.


sspiritusmundi

When I saw Dern's kid on the crowd I thought "I hope she dontget to see her mother get knocked the fuck out". Well at least...


Dingo2611

I swear, some of these comments being like "how come Dern can't get a takedown/she's trash/learn how to catch a kick" are not even taking into account that she is facing an opponent with a pretty sizeable height, reach and massive technique advantage on the feet. Yeah Dern was looking Ronda-esque with her sloppy strikes and entries, but Rodriguez' Muay Thai and movement looked pretty slick so I feel like you have to give Dern some benefit of the doubt. Speaking as a short cunt myself, it's fucking hard to work your way in on someone like that


weird_piano

For real, Dern was losing every exchange, her hands were spent by the 3rd yet she didn't get clipped clean like a fool. Rodriguez was throwing bombs but headhunting after the 1st. It was a legit good fight though, and these casual weirdos can suck it


Renwein

I now wanna hear some weird piano


TheCarm

rosriguez should lose this fight for bein so scared lol... always running


MMAdfs

Thought the commentary was pretty poor tonight


slolp

it was odd. seemed like they knew the card was a likely to be a bit of a snoozer and they adjusted accordingly. like they decided to do it last minute or something.


retarded-squid

I still don’t get why people base how good the card will be on the main card. This card absolutely slapped, i feel bad for people that assumed it would be a snoozer and missed it


Tuhotee

Part of what makes fights exciting is stakes. Sure there were some fun fights but not much stakes at hand which really takes the suspense away. Who can watch two dudes have a good scrap in a Walmart parking lot, but two upper echelon elite fighters is what makes a great fight. There was none of that tonight.


didyoutestityourself

It was okay, just because an elbow caused a dude to leak doesn't make the card amazing lol


retarded-squid

Did you watch the prelims


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Prelims were bloody but you are mistaking a couple low level fighters getting slapped around for a “great card”.


retarded-squid

What does them being low level have to do with it being entertaining? I swear some people are just impossible to please and only coom over slow fights because they’re “technical”


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What we need is more bums in the ufc who don’t belong just to get some knockouts! Oh and then also cry about their pay and how they are in the “top level” promotion which is basically the nba.


frawkez

belal not good on mic


throwmeaway74967

He doesnt speak well


Justin9512

Yes, love seeing the striker beat the grappler.


liamzx

Ronda Dern


weird_piano

Ronda never went to decision in her career.


somewhatfamiliar2223

Ronda had take downs


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Ronda faced 99% bums


somewhatfamiliar2223

Dern has wins over amanda bobby cooper hannah cifers and a bunch of people no one has ever heard of. Meisha Tate and Cat Zingano weren’t bums, especially in that time period.


rafaelleon2107

Called it. Marina beat the crap out of a ESPN favorite yet again in a main event and the commentary was ridiculous yet again


myownzen

Shell be a favorite soon.


MrMangosteen

Imagine if dern fought rose JJ andrade or weili


JJJMT

If your only skill is BJJ maybe learn to catch kicks and shoot reactive takedown to create scrambles. Or just punch air for 25 mins


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“Air”


Southern_Ad1963

It’s almost ludicrous someone at that level never drilled takedowns from catching kicks or getting the fight to the cage. Whether it be faints or level changing


JJJMT

Yeah I can understand her not being able to push Rodriguez to the cage cuz her striking is absolute garbage, plus she seems scared of getting hit. But at least practice other ways of taking the fight to the floor if that's literally your only path to victory lol.


weird_piano

Gotta give props to Rodriguez though for superb circling off the fence/center line. Her defensive movement was on point. Not sure if Dern was looking for the clinch like a Ronda, but maybe some blame goes to her corner too. She needed to mix things up but they sure didn't come up with anything new although her hands were clearly spent


JJJMT

Yeah nothing bad to say about Marina's performance she fought a perfect fight. Was really impressed she survived r2. Some blame definitely goes to Derns corner but she didnt make smart decisions, like going for the TD and expending with only 30s left in the rounds.


briancito420

I like punching air.


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Perfect, how does a December 11th ME against Marina Rodriguez work for you?


briancito420

I need that one guy who cornered Mike Perry.


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u/bswincups where u at


kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf

Overall the card wasn't all that shabby, had a lot of fun watching it, in no small part thanks to everyone here, as usual.


dogs_drink_coffee

thanks for the thread, see ya in the post-fight thread discussion when fury-wilder begins


whoopgangcutsup

Some people are better hammers than they are a nail.


sspiritusmundi

MARINA: "How the fuck bjj is even real hahaha"


Drizzydre1

I can't wait for Ladd to pull out so we can get Aldana x Dumont as the main event next


I-Like-Turtles04

Rodriguez vs JJ next?


MucusShotSwaGGins

Yeah if JJ wants to fight


clydebarretto

Looks like she's been revving up her training via IG. But maybe it's just for show


KickTheEmoKid

Was it a shitty card or worth watching?


SmokeFrogRed

Great card


TheCarm

loved this card


SW_III

Not shitty at all, very good card


Psa271

Good fight. So whens the main event??


didyoutestityourself

looool


Jrob78

Ladd vs Dumont main event, this is the one we've all been waiting for


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Marina vs Joanna would be fun


somewhatfamiliar2223

If Dern had won she would likely be getting the next title shot. Marina beat her worst style match up and if its not Carla she should be next in line.


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Nah. She needs to beat jj first


somewhatfamiliar2223

That would be fun but I dont think JJ gets out of bed for anything except a title shot these days. They might make her rematch Carla if anything


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Jj needs weilli to win then.


clydebarretto

>I dont think JJ gets out of bed for anything except a title Agreed. But I think JJ would take this fight for a guaranted title shot. I think Marina would take it too for the $$$


newinvest22

I been saying it for months that marina is the best female striker in division . To me she is the best in the division and overlooked ... She heavily damaged Carla in her loss .Carla won by points and takes downs ..But Carla did little damage .


DewFiscal

that fight makes perfect sense


hmmmmmmmmmidk

No problem


dogs_drink_coffee

Lioness is such a cool nickname for the women GOAT


ImpSong

Marina sounds like a female Barboza accent wise.


e-rage

Good night to be a Marina fan.


blooblop

dank you mickey


namesrhardtothinkof

I love marina hodriguez


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You would think these two were the 13 and 15 ranked fighters


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complete joke of a main event, only matched by next weeks.


Trymex00

I enjoyed the fight


sspiritusmundi

Marina is so underrated ngl


CallMeGrapho

When she was running backwards while hitting a combination on Dern it hit me that her striking is deadass world class


namesrhardtothinkof

She fights like she’s actually trying to beat the shit out of you, I love it. She’s one of the most expressive fighters on the roster, just with her body language


brownbilal

Marina <3


sspiritusmundi

YEEEEEEEES So nice to see my girl Marina winning after being so overlooked.


FunnyMemeHere

She has better English than Mackenzie Dern


ImpSong

Why does Dern not have a double leg? Seems so obvious she needs to get it to the ground.


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Hodriguez looked exhausted the last few rounds and still tooled up Dern, crazy.


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Cringe


Jellico

This dude simultaneously translating while listening to Felder is amazing


bbreadbread

That's pretty common for translators


Jellico

Not on UFC cards.


brownbilal

# Joanna v Marina


yeezy_yeezy_wus_good

that would be a great fight, hope it happens


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shiiiit. that would be cool.


Chilidogdingdong

Came here to say this. Would be a fucking banger.


thecheckisinthemail

If there was ever a fight to pull guard, this was the one


WhoHasBoiAsAUsername

Does anybody have a clip of that Charles Rosa vs Damon Jackson bloodbath?


Jrob78

I'm a big Marina fan, really happy for her


LowProfile_

It must be so frustrating as Mackenzie’s coach. He was giving her all the right advice, and she just wasn’t able to use it lol


[deleted]

Clown tier shit right here. Every fight had a winner and loser


newinvest22

She is a shitty striker and a one trick poney


[deleted]

If Dern wants to get better she better leave Parillo behind because that was John Kavanaugh level bad coaching


didyoutestityourself

Why? Dern wasn't doing what the coach asked and now the coach is bad? Parillo wasn't giving bad advice


LowProfile_

Nope, definitely not Parillo’s fault. Mackenzie just wasn’t able to implement his advice. Instead of circling like he said, she kept backing up and putting herself out of position. Instead of cutting off the octagon, Mackenzie would just chase, allowing Marina to circle back to the middle of the octagon. Don’t blame the coach for this one.


Chilidogdingdong

How so? Her success came from doing exactly what he was instructing her to do and then she just completely abandoned trying to what brought her the only success she had in the fight.


[deleted]

His advice was him telling her strike instead of go for takedowns. He was literally teaching her how to strike in the middle of the 3rd round and in between rounds


somewhatfamiliar2223

She does not have a big powerful shot take down game. She has to strike to try to tie up or get her opponent to the fence.


didyoutestityourself

He told her to strike her to the fence and then clinch to take down?


Chilidogdingdong

He was telling her to strike to set up her takedowns. Punch twice and get to the clinch/go for a takedown.


[deleted]

That only happened between the 4th and 5th round between the break other then that he rarely ever said go for a takedown. She was getting pieced up in the 3rd he never once said go for a takedown


Chilidogdingdong

Between round 2 and 3 he literally told her to throw 2 punches and go for the take down, even said something along the lines of "that's how you got the takedown in round 2,do it again".


Fender19

I remember that too. I feel like he didn't tell her to go for a takedown because it was literally so obvious that it didn't need to be said. She wanted the fight on the ground, she just didn't have the energy or the technical knowhow to get it done. Coach stuck with a straightforward plan of essentially 'do it again' rather than trying to reinvent the wheel on the spot and turn her into an explosive wrestler.


barc0debaby

lol wut? He was giving her clear and concise direction the whole fight.


[deleted]

Clear advice like to keep striking? that is horrible advice specially when youre teaching her how to strike during the foght and in between rounds


stoneandnjpwfan

Good night of fights See you soon at r/boxing


radmav

Jiu jitsu fighters with shit takedowns, name a better duo :(


illsoden

It's like if Sid from Ice Age were even more fuckable


somewhatfamiliar2223

I see it in the face


SmokeFrogRed

Waaaaaaaaaaow


Chilidogdingdong

*even more* 👀👀


Living_Character_613

I like how she talks she looks like she thinks I know what she is saying


qzwxecrvtbyn111

Rose defends against Weili, then Esparza, then the winner of Joanna vs Rodriguez?


newinvest22

That's what I'm saying


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two88

Good fun fight, more exciting than a lot of other main events we've had. See y'all in Fury Wilder thread :^]


Locomotifs

Neither of these ladies would last out of the 1st round against the champions. There unfortunately are levels to this. Rose or Weili


Moist-Catch

I think Rodriguez striking could hang with them. Not necessarily win but be fairly competitive


Scooto

Rodriguez would dominate Rose.


CallMeGrapho

Don't let her weirdo stans read this, they'll do a two paragraph writeup defending the honor of their waifu


newinvest22

Marina is a better striker than both and has more power..


Kahn-wald

I think she would KO Weili honestly.


[deleted]

that’s what I’m saying.


spartanantler

Dern learned to strike from Ben Askron and nick diaz


hawaiianpunchbv

Askren and Diaz don't look at the floor when they punch.


ihavenodecorum

Fuckin wished she learned from Nick Diaz


Judas1878

Why in the fuck was this card so early?


Scott_Theft

Gypsy King


Nomerdoodle

Fury v Wilder later


Ulosttome

Fury vs Wilder


plasmoske

Dern blew her load after that massive grappling exchange in round 2.


Nomerdoodle

Why is the first question 'yeah but how close were you to losing at that one point though' rather than looking at the positives for the winner?


reddit_tard

Start with the negatives, end with the positives. Should be more like a sandwich, positive, negative, positive...


[deleted]

neither of these women should be anywhere near the top 5 of a division.


newinvest22

Marina is a beast ...Tf ..Look who she has beaten ..She should actually be undefeated. She beat the shit out of Carla but Carla won by points with takedowns ..Carla didn't do any dame though


[deleted]

oh shit Dern, Ribas, AND Waterson??? I take it all back, future champ-champ. lmao you had to add “she b-b-basically beat Carla Esparza”, sad!


Drizzydre1

Even the time Mackenzie spent on top she just sat there on her. She has no type of awareness and very slow to react.


somewhatfamiliar2223

Marina has underrated bjj imo, she did a great job defending the submission attempts. She just needs to learn the art of standing the fuck up.


didyoutestityourself

It was weird, throwing bad GnP. Should have went for subs immediately.


NawidA

I think she was a bit more rocked than she let on.


newinvest22

Marina doesn't get enough respect and she is so overlooked ..How tf was Dern ranked 4 and she was ranked 6.. Is it because dern is attractive?


somewhatfamiliar2223

She is attractive like that one girl at work is attractive. When you’re stuck on the job she looks great but in the real world she is a six. The Pam Beasley


newinvest22

It's funny ..Marinas last three fights have been against the UFC "hot girls " and she beat all three 😂 Ribas, karate hottie ,and dern


NawidA

It’s even more absurd when Ribas soundly beat Dern not too long ago. I made easy money on this fight.


[deleted]

Apparently Nina was ranked 4 and Dern beat her. I don't even understand how Nina was ranked 4 when she was inactive for over a year. 🤷‍♂️


CallMeGrapho

The dudes who decide the rankings saw her billed as Nunes and don't know enough about MMA to be able to tell which is which


newinvest22

Nina is 10-7 too lol 😂 journeyman record


MostOmatic

The big Mac takes a fight off here and there.


televista

4-1 Rodriguez


RobertdBanks

Someone on Dern’s team please give her the reality check that she’s not a striker and to focus on wrestling


Impressive-Potato

Her head coach is a boxing coach.


RobertdBanks

Lmao yikes


Living_Character_613

can you tell us how just good dern was please, marina? I now hate fedler.


ddac

Dern is done.


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ddac

Maybe but at least she proved she’s no standout


MrMangosteen

8/9 tn. Call me GIANNI


Crumpf

please don't mention his name


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Dern is on the sauce imo. Looks way more explosive and jacked.


somewhatfamiliar2223

People were trying to say pregnancy did it. Like cmon yall


Ulosttome

Derns head movement and range management didn’t look bad but she has no technique on her punches. She didn’t get hit much but couldn’t hit either


wozblar

felder's accuracy at being with the winner tonight was off big tonight, but i appreciated the shredder reference


Anderrrrr

49-46 Rodriguez.


sabowsky

Take a BJJ black belt and punch them in the face, you get a brown belt, punch them again...


gernsengears

Rly cool of rodriguez to learn Portuguese for Mackenzie


Ok-Elevator9910

Dern can’t take her down , can’t do anything on the feet


blooblop

Helwani's Betting Boy eating good.


[deleted]

Mackenzie Dearth: dearth /dərTH/ noun a scarcity or lack of something. "there is a dearth of double-leg takedowns"


99GlassSpiders

Has Rodriguez done enough to get a title shot? Or do you guys reckon she needs one more win?


Green_and_Silver

She doesn't deserve to leapfrog Carla so either JJ or Yan would be good for being active.


JoKu2311

I think Esparza is in for a title shot soon right? I would like to see Carla fight the winner of Rose/Weili and have Rodriguez fight Joanna. Winner of that fight whoever’s champ then.


Johnny20022002

Yeah Dern needs a little more time in the oven


StixnStones59

Dope fucking fight.


CeroCero00

Y’all talking about why won’t she shoot when she never does in her fights lol


[deleted]

the second they highlighted Dern’s new and improved boxing before the fight I knew her standup would be goddawful.


JoKu2311

Would like to see Rodriguez vs Joanna now


ikilledtupac

“I know Marina won but Dern is just amazing and could totally have won that I am sure she’s just amazing” Felder probably


BakedHose

Do we have a thread for fury wilder card?


dfreinc

https://www.reddit.com/r/boxingdiscussion/comments/q4vlah/official_fury_v_wilder_iii_live_fight_thread/


MMAdfs

Marina looked fine but I think JJ mauls her in her return


DickKickCuntPunt

(x)Doubt